Forum posts made by principessa

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 27 Aug 2016 08:32

....it takes two to tango. You need someone to engage with you. It will not be me.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 27 Aug 2016 07:49

Never mind. I decided not to engage again.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 19:45




Lastly My comment to someone incapable of recognizing the difference between the contempt and disgust I feel for Goebbels and ADMIRATION should be GRATEFUL for being called an airhead, as they haven't as yet met the intellectual requirements to be CONSIDERED TO BE ONE! What's HYSTERICAL is you telling ME to desist when I'm having one disgusting allegation after another hurled at me by you and others on this thread.

I did not notice this before.

You have not once in this thread expressed your contempt and disgust for Goebbels, only your contempt and disgust for anyone who disagrees with you. As Ruthie said, your posts confirm that you agree with and admire him. We take you at your word.

You complain about insults and first call me an airhead and then tell me that I have not met the intellectual level of an airhead. If that is true, you are the Dalai Lama. What I think really rankles you is intelligent, articulate women having the gall to confront you. You are much harder on us than the men who have done so, making a point of belittling and demeaning us with snide name calling. That tells us more about you and what threatens you. So, I would advise you to treat others with the respect you demand for yourself. Or you can continue with your fever dreams and stew in your own vitriol.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 16:13



How do you expect to avoid insults when that is all you deal in. You started off your first post to me as an insult, and I have noticed that you tend to insult any woman who disagrees with you with slurs like "airhead." Do not do so in the future. It is fine that you say you aren't an admirer of Goebbels, but when you post links to his speeches and preface them by saying you and he are on the same page, it makes you seem like a sympathizer. That, along with your habit of posting memes and ideas from known white supremacists sites makes a point that your words don't.

Who on the left is calling for the genocide of the Jews? There is a lot of antisemitism on the right, and plenty of people in the Christian Identity movement, that call for the genocide of everyone who isn't white. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that you have been posting memes from the websites of their numerous organizations.



“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” ~Maya Angelou.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 15:03




Given the "value" I've come to place on your opinions ... BFD! (Oh, and that "venom" is a natural by product of being under constant attack by one insult hurler after another who then wants to sit back and say "WHO? ME?")

We agree then in valuing each other's opinions equally. It is laughable that you now paint yourself as a victim. Tant pis.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 14:26




EXCUSE ME DIRECTLY TO HELL! Listen up you insulting airhead, there is a VAST difference between recognizing the influence that man has had on our media and "admiring" him! My observations in that regard have ZILCH to do with any so called "admiration"! Rather it is my way of CONDEMNING Lame Stream media as having BECOME nothing more than a propaganda tool. Further given the manner in which the left has embraced and defends incessantly those who have long called for Jewish genocide the hypocrisy of you labeling ME as "anti Semitic" is as stupid as it gets!




Best take your blood pressure medication. Given the venom that you have been spouting page after page, you have very thin skin. If you dish it out, you had best learn to take it. Notice I have not had to use all caps to make my point. I stand by my opinion of you.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 12:39



Why am I not surprised you admire a racist Nazi war criminal that cowardly murdered his wife and children before taking his own life?

We now know that both Caddy and Weavindreams admire Goebbels. Caddy uses the triple parentheses - the now not so secret dog whistle for anti-Semites. There is nothing else we need to know.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 25 Aug 2016 19:26

@Ruthie

You are both intelligent and patient and probably too kind to someone who does not want to listen to anything or anyone who does not mirror his opinions. I disengaged from any back and forth with him because there is no way to have a discussion with someone like this. He has his talking points and cartoons and prepackaged talking points from the fringes of the internet and his reliable right wing sources. He has contempt for any other world view and any one who holds one. He will not stop yelling with capital letters or refrain from the tired conspiracy theories and outrageous claims he makes.


Topic Will the alt right take over the GOP or form another party after the election?
Posted 25 Aug 2016 17:53

The alt right is an amorphous group at the far right of American politics. Its adherents reject traditional GOP values and policies. There are elements that call themselves white nationalists. It is generally anti-immigrant and more. One of its leaders, Steve Bannon has become the CEO of Trump's campaign. Some think because of this that the GOP has been co-opted by the alt right and that Trump panders to them. Will the GOP reject this and return to its traditional values after the election? Will the alt right form a new political party like the far right parties in Europe and the UK?

I am adding a link to an article that explains what the alt right is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/24/whats-the-alt-right-a-primer/

And here is one to an article about Bannon.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/the-radical-anti-conservatism-of-stephen-bannon/496796/

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 15:03

Here is something I didn't know. I wondered about the use of triple parentheses and what it meant. I noticed it in a post in this thread as (((hollywood))). Apparently this is used by alt-right anti-Semites to indicate Jewishness.The parentheses are put around people's names on social media as a sign to other like-minded people that someone is Jewish, or that a company or institution is. It is meant as a signal to open them to a barrage of anti-Semitic posts and messages.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2016/jun/12/echoes-beating-the-far-right-two-triple-brackets-at-a-time


Edit: I am adding a link to an article that explains what the alt right is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/24/whats-the-alt-right-a-primer/

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 13:34

This comment was posted today in response to a column entitled "The Age of Post Truth Politics" in the NY Times. I cannot say it better.

This is politics, the dirtiest and most unseemly business in history. Why use facts when lies are so much more convenient? With facts, you have to do research, use discipline to make sure you've got them right, and be honest in the context you surround them with. It takes effort and diligence to use facts, and that gets tiring.

Lies, though, are easy to find, flexible enough for any situation, and always support your point of view. And the kicker is that people don't know a lie when they hear one, so they can be used over and over, and twisted and morphed and evolved to a politician's every whim.

Truth is ephemeral. Lies are everlasting. Hence, Trump.

The column itself starts this way:

Facts hold a sacred place in Western liberal democracies. Whenever democracy seems to be going awry, when voters are manipulated or politicians are ducking questions, we turn to facts for salvation.

But they seem to be losing their ability to support consensus. PolitiFact has found that about 70 percent of Donald Trump’s “factual” statements actually fall into the categories of “mostly false,” “false” and “pants on fire” untruth.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 09:50

@Regnadkcin

I agree with you. I have said many times that Trump has given people permission to articulate opinions that were confined to their homes before. The hate and resentment has always been there, but increased with the election of President Obama. That was more than these troglodytes could accept: a black man was President. Trump rode that wave before he ever declared his candidacy by fueling the birther movement. He is now encouraging his followers to be observers at polls lest there be voter fraud. I interpret this as code for voter intimidation and suppression the likes of which we have not seen since the "60s. These Trump people now have leave to organize themselves as they did in that time. The hate and venom they spew is the same. Trump is also attempting to inoculate himself against his likely loss by alleging voter fraud and a rigged election.

I would like to quote part of a comment in the NY Times regarding a column about Trump encouraging election observers.

This year, especially, Trump's core supporters embody a witch's brew of emotions well-calculated to encourage confrontation at the polls.

Already alienated from an electoral process that has elevated to office people whom they reject as corrupt and illegitimate, many Trumpistas will readily accept their candidate's predictions of a rigged contest. Determined to 'take their country back' from these unworthy interlopers, moreover, some of Trump's more extreme followers would not hesitate to intimidate minority voters, whom they would automatically identify as pro-Clinton.

Once again, Trump's penchant for reckless behavior and provocative comments has threatened to debase the political process. Contemptuous of democratic principles, he will pursue any tactic that improves his chance of victory. If thugs at the polls discourage turnout, so much the better.



I like Goldwater reference. I hope that Trump will be defeated in a similar landslide.

Edit: I edited out a paragraph repeated in error in my quote.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 08:25

What worries me is where all of the hatred unleashed by Trump's campaign will go after the election. Will there be a resurgence of fringe white supremacist and other such groups? The racism, nativism, sexism, homophobia and other unsavory opinions will not just disappear nor will the anger and outrageous claims made by Trump and his followers. We have seen some of that here. It is not good for the US.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 20 Aug 2016 13:24

May Trump's run start to implode ..... and may my American friends see the danger of that asshole.

Van

From your mouth to God's ears.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 20 Aug 2016 11:45



ya know... once upon a time i could actually figure out what it was you were saying, even if i disagreed with it. lately, you're just all over the place and i can't make heads or tails of it. might want to regroup a bit, cause it's just sort... raving... Just a thought. :)

Maybe the capital letters make it all well thought out and intelligent. Oh well, he should be happy now. Trump has ditched Manafort (whose ties to Putin were becoming too embarrassing) and hired right wing zealot and conspriracy theorist Steve Bannon. Bannon's scorched earth tactics would make Lee Atwater and Karl Rove blush. This is not going to be pretty.

Topic Chuckepoo has a Birthday
Posted 19 Aug 2016 14:28

https://upload.lushstories.com/32091299-birthday.jpg

All the best, Chuck.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 16 Aug 2016 11:10

No but hope the Senate remains Republican

That is unlikely since of the 34 up for reelection 24 are GOP. Trump does not have coattails for them, in fact his impact is the opposite. The Dems may not only retake the Senate, but possibly the House as well. The polls indicate the gap between Clinton and Trump growing and many people vote a straight ticket.

btw my PTSD comment was meant as humour. This has been a campaign unlike any other.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 15 Aug 2016 15:51

I wonder if Trump has sporadic LSD flashbacks.

He causes them. He doesn't get them. He will give a lot of people PTSD before this election is over.

I wonder about his constantly repeating things he says twice or three times before going on. Is he stalling for time in his stream of consciousness to think of something else to say?

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 16:56

@Weavindreams

I will not engage any longer with you about this. I have addressed you respectfully until now rather than as you just addressed me. I will leave you to iron those sheets with the pointy hat as you listen to right wing talk radio or watch Fox News.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 15:03

@Weavindreams

You are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts.

The divisiveness and ugliness is the product of decades of dog whistle politics by the GOP appealing to veiled racism, nativism, and hyperreligiosity of people and thereby convincing them to vote against their own self-interest. This goes back to Nixon's southern strategy and Reagan's welfare queens. The GOP is the party of the 1%, catering to business and the wealthy while pandering to other voters' worst instincts. And then President Obama was elected. A black man was the POTUS. This was more than many people could bear. The GOP leadership vowed to make him a one-term president and block any legislation or programs he put forward whether or not they would benefit the citizens of the US. The point was that this man was anathema to their voters. President Obama has dealt with the disrespect and hatred with grace and dignity sorely lacking in his opponents. There was no accusation too low or outlandish for them not to throw at him: He was a secret Muslim. He was not born in the US. After more than seven years, this ugliness has reached its apotheosis (or really its low point) with the candidacy and campaign of Donald Trump.

Merriam-Webster defines demagogue as "a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power". Trump fulfills this definition and has released all of the ugliness of racism, sexism, nativism, and more that was previously unspoken in public. He appeals to the worst in people and demonizes minorities and others as scapegoats for their problems. Many of his followers have not adapted to the 21st century global economy, not retrained for current jobs. The days of a high school education leading to a well paying factory job are long past as is the supremacy of the white Anglo-Saxon male. The resentment of losing their place in society is not unfounded, but people have to take responsibility for their futures rather than blaming others for their plight. The US is not going to return to the '50s with minorities at the back of the bus and women in the kitchen. This is what Trump feeds upon and I have no doubt that he realizes exactly what he is doing. He has made hate socially acceptable.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 10:55



Oh trust me... it's no picnic here either. I'm lucky that my husband still holds dual citizenship with the US and Canada. Should things here ever get bad enough, we can always migrate north.

Although this is something that people threaten in every US election, I have a feeling that they mean it this time. There might be a wall on the northern border keeping you in if the Donald were to win. Happily, I don't think that will happen. He may take the GOP majority not only in the Senate but also the House along with him.

I just want him to keep talking and digging the hole deeper. He has finally reached a critical mass of articulating his thoughts that has driven more and more voters away from him. The election results may rival the landslide against Goldwater in the '60s but the ugliness that the Trump campaign has unleashed will not disappear. He is already planting the idea that the election will be rigged against him. The resentment and hatred will fester and have to be addressed and combatted. The GOP will have to rebuild from the ashes and choose whether to reject what decades of their dog whistle politics has created or to become a far right party like those in Europe.

Topic Pray for France.
Posted 15 Jul 2016 08:36

I too have fond memories of vacationing in Nice. It would have been even more beautiful with the fireworks display for Bastille Day. What has happened is horrifying and makes me terribly sad. To do this is inhuman. Those who hate modernity and liberal democracies should go and live in a place that conforms to their thinking, and live with ISIS rather than us. There is a special place in hell for the man who did this. My thoughts are with those who were lost and their loved ones. Especially the children.

Topic Use My Last Word First - in a 5 word sentence..
Posted 14 Jul 2016 15:41

Now get your clothes off.

Topic The WORST movie you ever saw
Posted 14 Jul 2016 15:35

Sex and the City 2 was absolutely awful. The only reason that I didn't walk out was that I was there with a group of female friends.

Topic Is anyone else tired of tattoos?
Posted 14 Jul 2016 15:33

Not a fan. I have to add that what seems like a good idea when you are in your late teens or twenties may not feel the same when you are older. There are conservative professions where tattoos that are visible to all might be frowned upon. Of course like many things that young people do, they don't consider later consequences.

I never wanted one. I did not like the idea of it being painful to get and more painful to remove. I feel the same way about piercings other than earlobes, so I guess I am old school.

Topic Who should be the next US president?
Posted 13 Jul 2016 11:46

The VP choices will be interesting for both parties.

It seems that Trump is looking at Pence, Christie and Gingrich. The solid choice would be Pence (although I disagree with everything he stands for). He is a conservative Christian, low key and experienced in government. Christie would be a twin for Trump in bluster and trash talk. Gingrich is embarrassing himself in pursuing the nod. He is intelligent, but also very acerbic, a doctrinaire conservative who led the impeachment fight against Bill Clinton while he himself was carrying on an extramarital affair. He has been married three times and actually told one of his wives that he wanted a divorce as she was in hospital receiving chemotherapy. Not demonstrative of great character.So between him and Trump there are six marriages and many affairs. Not appealing for conservatives, especially evangelicals.

Clinton has a lot of choices. I doubt she will choose Elizabeth Warren with whom she does not have a warm relationship. Julian Castro and Cory Booker have been mentioned and would help with minority voters. We'll see.

Topic 5 dead police in Dallas
Posted 12 Jul 2016 15:03

I think that the perpetrator could be racist and have mental health issues at the same time.

There are two sides to this equation.

My view is that for a segment of the population the election of President Obama was unacceptable. How was it possible that an African-American could be in this position? They are the people who respond to the dog whistle politics of the GOP, a party that has been cloaking racism in euphemisms like law and order since Nixon's time. The GOP doubled down with the Southern Strategy then and continued race baiting under the tutelage of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. This has reached its logical conclusion with the candidacy of Donald Trump, who has touched all of the noxious bases of racism, sexism, xenophobia, tribalism and more. He has given these racists permission to articulate what previously could only be said within the confines of their homes. Perhaps the cops who are racist have felt enabled in this atmosphere to act on their hatred just as some voters who agree with Trump now feel empowered escalating racial tension in the US by wanting to turn the clock back to the '50s.

African-Americans were being killed by police before the rise of Donald Trump. But he has torn the scab off of this festering wound in the US - systemic racism. Progress has been made since the '60s, but not as much as we imagine if it is necessary for black parents to have "the talk" with their children, advising them to comply in every way with police in order to live through that interaction. We know that black men are stopped for no real reason and questioned, whether driving or just walking down the street. Racial profiling is part of the DNA of some people, not just cops.

So, like a law in physics, there is an equal and opposite reaction with the Black Lives Matter movement. People rightfully question the action of police who are supposed to protect them, not kill them. And then someone takes it to an extreme and Dallas happens. There is a lot of work to be done on the issues of race and justice in America. Progress has been made in the last fifty or sixty years, but bias still exists. People of good will have to talk past these barriers with open hearts and understanding what it is like to walk in the other's shoes. If anything good can come of these events, that would be it.

What we have to remember is the humanity and dignity of everyone, whatever colour, whatever creed, whatever nationality or any other demographic descriptor. The Dallas shooter is no more representative of all African-Americans than Dylan Roof was representative of all Caucasian Americans.

Topic Cops out of control - part 2
Posted 10 Jul 2016 14:29

There are two threads here that are intertwined. The first is the racism that is endemic in the US and has been festering for decades. After the 60s and the end of Jim Crow and segregation, it was inappropriate to voice racist views in polite society, but it was still there. The Repubicans, ironically the party of Lincoln, knowingly and cynically used dog whistle politics to pander to racism with their Southern Strategy and onward from there without conscience from people like Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. This has reached its ugly apotheosis with Donald Trump who has made racism, xenophobia, sexism, tribalism and more not only acceptable, but an election promise.

To make American great again is code for bringing it back to the 1950s, when minorities knew their place and men were in control with their wives dependent at home. The simmering hatred of decades has been unleashed with the help of his campaign. He has made it acceptable to voice all of these abhorrent views without shame. After all it was Trump who denied President Obama's legitimacy questioning where he was born and giving rise to the birthers. The GOP went the next step and promised that their sole goal would be to deny any progress that might be made by the first black president. No one can tell me that there was not racism at the core of their blocking his initiatives. There is a lot of work to do on all sides to remedy this. Racism runs deep and dark and is full of pain. But conversations must happen to bridge these chasms. To do nothing is to condone this. It all starts at a local level in one's community and with activism in politics. It is an enormous issue, but doing nothing will just allow this to continue.

The second thread is the gun culture of the US. There is no reason for the populace to be armed with weapons, especially those that are meant to kill many people quickly and easily as on a battlefield. I understand people living in places like New Hampshire or Montana wanting guns for hunting, but not in cities. I understand that the population of the US is about 323 million and that there are over 300 million guns. Almost one for every man, woman, and child. This is not the militia contemplated by the US Constitution. It is madness. The death grip that the NRA has on US politicians has to end. That nothing was done after Newtown is appalling. The killings go on and on. Enough is enough. Politicians have been feeding at the trough of the NRA and allowed them to have a veto against any form of gun control legislation despite the fact that the majority of the American population is in favour of sensible limits on guns. The politicians are craven fearing retribution from the NRA, bought and paid for. The American electorate has to make their wishes known and vote against anyone with a good record on the NRA scorecard.

Lastly, the police who are decent citizens have to rid their ranks of those who are racist. They have to break the blue wall of silence. The police should be part of the community and must not be a separate entity. Police malfeasance should always be investigated by outside federal authorities to ensure the legitimacy of such investigations. The DOJ should prosecute civil rights violations just as it did decades ago.

(I edited and added to my comment while Sprite was posting.)

Topic Cops out of control - part 2
Posted 07 Jul 2016 13:55



Homeland Security (how's that for irony?) is actually arming the police with surplus weapons from the War on Terror (irony, part 2) and turning them into a paramilitary force.

This is not America.

You are right. However, when the civilian populace has such easy access to guns, not to mention weapons that should really just be seen on a battlefield, the justification for the police is there. Somehow reason must prevail and the American love affair with firearms has to end along with the death grip of the NRA on politicians. If they did not have the courage to do something after Newtown when young children were slaughtered, I don't know what has to happen for them to defy the NRA. America has to disarm itself. The constitutional right to bear arms was meant for a civilian militia more than 200 years ago, not the 21st century.

I will get off my soapbox now.

Topic Britain to have another female Prime Minister
Posted 07 Jul 2016 12:14

I doubt it will impact the US. One can hope it is the beginning of the end for the old boys' network. Cameron overplayed his hand and had to resign. Corbyn did not have the confidence of his party and has proven himself to be an anti-Semite. How could the women not do better?