Forum posts made by principessa

Topic Harvey 2017
Posted 30 Aug 2017 17:03

@ seax

Thank you for taking the time to respond, and in such a reasonable way. I accept your apology for the "discussion over".

I learned a lesson too after I was drawn into what went on with dragonfly. Respect indeed is a two-way street.

We have reached detente. angel7

Topic Harvey 2017
Posted 30 Aug 2017 16:12

I would have sworn that the destruction of a major part of the State of Texas would be a topic we could discuss without it descending into a "bash Trump" or "we're all going to drown from global warming" rant like every other thread on the Think Tank. Boy was I ever mistaken.

I guess those three hours from 8pm EST to 11pm EST on November 8, 2016 scarred some of you folks even deeper than I had imagined.

It's like having your picture taken with a flash bulb. For a while, no matter what you look at, eyes open or eyes closed, all you can see is the after image of that flash bulb. With the flash bulb, the afterimage fades out over a few minutes. But you folks have been going on like this for 9 months. Hopefully you aren't scarred for life, because we have to do it all over again starting about a year from now. Actually some 2020 wannabe's are already visiting Iowa and New Hampshire.

You said somewhere in another thread that you had vowed to yourself to be more measured in your words after a forced week-long vacation. You dismissed me after I made a point with "discussion over", adele got "picky, picky, picky" when she made an argument about what you said and now you disingenuously admit to a mistake as you patronize those who disagree with you again. You said people have trouble understanding your sense of humour. Perhaps that is because it is not funny to them.

Is this the kinder, gentler version of you? That, of course, was a rhetorical question. I don't know why you have to be unpleasant, as you seem to be an intelligent man, capable of arguing a point without that. A little respect would go a long way.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 18:02

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was solely responsible for how she conducted herself in her term of office. Secretary of State Colin Powell was likewise responsible for his own actions. He cannot blame her. She cannot blame him. There are and were federal laws and regulations covering all aspects of how secure emails were to be handled at State. Some of those laws carry some rather severe penalties for those who are guilty of breaking them. "I didn't mean to. I didn't know. Colin did it too." should not be tendered as a valid defense by or for anyone who has risen to a Presidential Cabinet level post. The laws and regulations should either be enforced in all cases and for all people or they should be rescinded.

I think I've already made my feelings clear with respect to a similar situation.

End of discussion.


Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 17:44

When is the last time you were able to get away with something by pointing out that everyone else was doing it too?

My point was that the same standard should be applied to all. There was precedent for this not being a problem. You cannot apply rules, regulations, laws and standards of practice differently depending on whose ox is being gored, i.e. their political party being your own or the opposition, and certainly the FBI and Department of Justice are to be evenhanded in upholding the rule of law.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 16:49

That's not entirely true either. Comey ruled that she broke the law but did so unintentionally and opined that no prosecutor would file charges. He kinda glossed over the fact that many Federal statutes, including that one, don't give you a pass for lack of intent.

Colin Powell and others did the similar things with their computers and no one talked about charging them with anything. Comey has his own questionable judgement to deal with regarding the announcement of investigating Clinton and later announcing there were no grounds for charges all within the context of the election campaign. As I understand it, it is against FBI policy to make any such announcements until the election is over. There is no doubt that this took votes away from her.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 15:31

missing e-mails, Benghazi, anything to do with the Clinton foundation, and just for wearing ugly pantsuits.

How about collusion with Russians to skew the election? How about not putting your interests in a blind trust and continuing to profit from decisions you make as president? How about breaches of ethics and conflicts of interest? How about being indebted in hundreds of millions of dollars to pals of Putin, which explains your soft spot for him? How about several instances of obstruction of justice to save your sorry ass from investigation of your wrongdoing? How about missing disclosure of tax returns? How about promoting your properties while in office? I could go on and on. Trump and his team/family will face evidence of wrongdoing as a result of the Mueller investigation that will likely result in articles of impeachment and possibly criminal charges.

You are entitled to your opinions, but not your own facts , unless you are like Kellyanne Conway and think that lies are just alternate facts. Other than in the fever dreams of right wing zealots, Hillary has not been charged with anything. She withstood eleven hours of interrogation on Benghazi unscathed. I would like to see Trump survive something like that and we may well have a chance to do so in the near future but I doubt he will emerge unscathed.

And, if you bring up her pantsuits, he should be jailed for his comb over.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 28 Aug 2017 16:31


4 pages out of 6 - of someone trying to convince others that she isn't stupid, nor a trump supporter and is being bullied. wow

my suggestion is this .... if you can't debate, express yourself adequately in your opinion, especially if someone presses you on WHY you have said opinion, it is probably in everyone's best interest to avoid the thread.

I just read 4 pages of utter ridiculous comments that pertained nothing to the actual OP thread and contributed zero thereto besides looking like a complete ass.

At least there was a few great posts about how disappointing and dooming #Potus45 is ... and continue to evolving into.

Even as a Canadian, I am disappointed in how the American President addressed the issue .... so terribly sad for everyone .... well, excluding those on the far right/alt right and trump supporters who are steadfast.



I hope this puts an end to it and this thread will go back to its original subject. Thanks, Van.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 28 Aug 2017 07:46

In fact i did say most of that after some of your initial posts, as did others. When you continued disregarding the suggestions, and posting stupid emoticons rather than actually responding to the counterpoints made by myself and others to your posts is when i made that comment. And explain what you used the NY Post as an example of?

She was comparing Lush to a great paper in New York, one that well informed people read, but got it wrong. It is The New York Times. The New York Post is a tabloid paper.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 27 Aug 2017 14:46

Bullying, spelling Nazis, and, hating someone who thinks different. Wow, way to show how wonderful left thinking is. I want to be part of your cult..(not)

Right. The cult of intelligent, literate people. It would be easier to ignore all of your mistakes if your thoughts were worthy of consideration.

Just to fulfill your expectations, I should tell you that the adverb is differently, not different.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 27 Aug 2017 10:48

I don't see him being impeached, but I would not be surprised if he steps down before his term is up.

I think that the Mueller investigation will reveal a lot about Trump and his team, not just regarding collusion with Russia and his campaign but also financial details that he has refused to share until now. His indebtedness to Russian oligarchs who are pals of Putin will probably be one of the uncomfortable things revealed. There may well be a case made for obstruction of justice against him regarding his effort to squelch this investigation and possibly other matters like his drafting Donald Jr.'s account to his meeting with Russians during the campaign. They may well be building an ethics case based on his continuing to profit from his businesses while in office and lack of a proper arm's length distance with a blind trust. Having your children run the businesses is not a blind trust. He is blatantly self-dealing with promotion of his hotels and resorts including the one near the White House.

Trump is not the selfless type. He would not likely resign in the face of impeachment proceedings that have the votes to succeed as Nixon did to save the country the trauma of the process. The down side of him fighting would be having all of his misdeeds made public. Either way, I don't think he will last a full term. I have my doubts about his stability and would not be shocked if he did resign for purported health reasons as he becomes more delusional.

Whatever and whenever happens, it could not be a moment too soon.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 27 Aug 2017 07:46

Better then your's

Still haven't figured out how to use apostrophes. Oh well, that is the least of your problems.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 27 Aug 2017 07:44

The Trump presidency is a joke. The quicker he is impeached the better.

What sort of cunt nominates a climate change skeptic as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency?

Orange-faced, pussy-grabbing, racist fuck...

Just add xenophobic, anti-semitic, morally bankrupt, narcissistic, ignorant, lazy, and so much more. Of course he is also a pathological liar and a con man. Oh, I could go on and on. But that is the essence of him.

Oh well, the Romans survived Caligula, so the US will survive him.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 25 Aug 2017 17:54

Les Miserables had nothing to do with fighting for slavery and tearing the country apart to do so. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 25 Aug 2017 16:56

Sorry. I did not mean to post.

Topic Question for Writers
Posted 25 Aug 2017 15:57

I think that our values and world view are reflected in our politics. I think that for the most part you write from what you think and what you know as well as from fantasy. My female characters are always strong, self-possessed women and so (I hope) related to me. The male characters see women as equals, again related to my politics.

I don't think we necessarily write with politics in mind, unless you do that deliberately, but I do think there is a subtext to our stories that is political.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 25 Aug 2017 13:12

bunch of losers. men hating losers. you all look stupid. later losers. binky argue fart

I can picture you sputtering with anger and frustration as you have no clue how to respond intelligently. So you flail and mutter incoherently about nothing related to the conversation. Your emoticons suit you: a binky, arguing and a fart.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 23 Aug 2017 19:20

I do agree with you about Jared and Ivanka though, unless they are both as morally corrupt as he is and the whole "Jewish" thing is nothing more than a facade.

Jared Kushner's grandparents were Holocaust survivors and he is an Orthodox Jew (the most observant sect). Ivanka converted to Judaism before marrying him and that is no easy feat. Judaism requires a lot of education and other hurdles before allowing someone to convert. So, I believe it is more than a thing as you put it. That is why it shocks me that they have not returned to New York even if they did not publicly denounce Trump. Ivanka has tweeted a couple of times with generic statements against racism and neo-nazis.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 23 Aug 2017 18:22

Well, just look at the poster you quoted. As my sister said to me today, Helen Keller could see right through trump and hear his lies. And do you really think she will get the knife/gun reference? I don't.

Unfortunately, there is no intelligence test attached to voting or posting. (Of course I am joking.)

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 23 Aug 2017 17:23

I would be happy to see the demise of all the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus factions of the GOP. They have power far out of proportion to the number of people who support their extreme ideas. To be truthful, I would like to see the GOP driven into the wilderness for a generation as their just deserts for appealing to the worst in Americans and thereby convincing them to vote against their own best interest. This has been going on since Nixon's southern strategy and culminated with Trump and normalizing racism, xenophobia and now equivocation about neo-nazis. They are all answerable for this as silence is consent.

The Dems need to rebuild their party from the ground up and return to being the party of working and middle class Americans, not the party of Goldman Sachs. If they did this and a new generation of Dems took over, people like Cory Booker, they would be worthy of being in power. This has to start at the local level, retaking state legislatures and governorships, and then the federal level. All of the people appalled by Trump would be happy to have a viable and believable alternative to vote for.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 23 Aug 2017 16:48

I agree with everything you said, Buz.

What I don't understand is how GOP elected officials have not unequivocally denounced him and how any member of his cabinet who is a member of a minority, including those who are Jewish, can possibly continue working with and for him. No, I take that back. Every cabinet member and appointee should not be able to continue in good conscience. If this were a parliamentary system they would resign and Trump would face a vote of confidence.

Most of all, I cannot imagine how Ivanka and Jared can bear to be in his presence after this. If I were in their position, I would go back to New York and let him know that he is off limits to his Jewish grandchildren.

For any of these individuals to do otherwise approaches Trump's own moral bankruptcy. It would be impossible to explain to family and friends that you are sticking with a man who cannot see an ethical difference between neo-nazis, the KKK, and other such white supremacists and those who oppose them, but rather puts them on a moral plane.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 23 Aug 2017 14:26

dani you are nothing so stop talking about me. As for unintelligent I see your pic in the dictionary under that word. Grow up I know you can do it if you weren't such a loserviolent1 No wonder when your in the chat rooms you whisper. No one there want's to see what you have to say. Not like here where all your minions hang on every word you say, like adele and princess whats-her- face. deal!

For the record, I am no one's minion. I am completely capable of forming my own opinions and posting them in a coherent (and grammatically correct) way. I doubt Dani and I have exchanged more than one or two messages and that would have been some time ago. I don't answer to you. You are beginning to sound a little paranoid rather than understanding that people have the same negative reaction to you and your thoughts because they recognize the same things about them.

You are still having trouble with grammar and apostrophes. This thread will help you.

And here is a hint. When a word is underlined in red as you type it is a spelling mistake.

Topic Where do you get your news?
Posted 23 Aug 2017 10:12

The New York Times, CBC, The Guardian, and CNN. For commentary I also read The New Yorker.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 23 Aug 2017 08:16

CNN counted 57 lies in Trump's performance last night. The most glaring was his review of his comments on Charlottesville which conveniently omitted his assertion that there was violence on many sides and fine people on both sides. And yet the people cheer him. Are they willfully blind and deaf to his lies, his narcissism, his lack of impulse control, his ignorance, his lack of background in governance, diplomacy, history and so much more? Perhaps. Trump creates an alternate reality and they buy it reflecting their opinions in this tribalized society. He confirms their prejudices and normalizes them.

Today, James Clapper, the former intelligence chief, said that he worries about Trump having the nuclear codes. His competence and stability are in question. More and more officials currently and formerly in government are questioning his fitness for office. Perhaps the 25th Amendment will eventually be used because of his mental instability.

As I have said before, he is utterly unsuited to this position. He loves the attention and the adulation and thrives on the chaos. There will come a time where he is faced with the results of the Mueller investigation. It will reveal whether there was collusion with the Russians and information he has been adamant not to share about his finances. There could be grounds for impeachment. He will not resign to save the country as Nixon did.

Of course, he may survive all of this and run again.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 22 Aug 2017 18:25


Your other posts have shown it, but now we have proof positive of what a grownup intellectual you are.

If you can't treat other people with a semblance of respect, just don't post.

Topic Why not line the streets
Posted 22 Aug 2017 18:17

What I'd like to see from white supremacists counter protesters is to be burning candles in silence then as the hateful bigots start to march by, the counter protesters turn their backs to them. That would be a peaceful protest that would deeply insult the race haters and frustrate their recruitment tactics at the same time. Their tactics thrive on angry, loud and possibly violent confrontation.

I think that I read about this being done somewhere, but I can't remember where. It is a really good idea. Silence and disdain instead of shouting in confrontation.

Topic Why not line the streets
Posted 22 Aug 2017 18:12

None that I know of... just a good few police hospitalised... I am still looking for the pictures I wanted, taken at the Inauguration... I will find them... have two much better and without the meme stuff. You have deflected your question... or are you saying that violence is ok if no one is killed?. Remember there are posts on here that see no evil on the left.
I see evil on both sides.


I abhor the violence on both sides but I reject any argument that asserts any equivalence between the neo-nazis and those who marched against them. The vast majority of those who counter-protested were not members of a antifa. All of the marchers on the other side were neo-nazis, KKK members, white supremacists or some variation thereof, and it was they who came openly armed with assault weapons as Virginia is an open carry state.

I believe that the Trump campaign has provided the environment for these people to come off the internet and into the street, without their hoods, marching proudly as they shout racist and anti-semitic chants. They picked Charlottesville because it is a university town, liberal by the standards of the south, and were looking to make a statement. As I have said elsewhere, when David Duke thanks you as he thanked Trump, you know you are doing something very, very wrong. Trump has changed the GOP dog whistle politics to openly court these people with thinly coded language. His unscripted remarks last Tuesday revealed his true opinions about the events in Charlottesville and those who were there. There is no taking that back.

Topic Why not line the streets
Posted 22 Aug 2017 17:17

Just_A_Guy_You_ Know is correct. There is no limitation on free speech other than the cliched example of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. All ideas may compete in the marketplace of ideas, but we also have a right to say that there are some that we find repugnant.

The way you fight ugliness like that we saw in Charlottesville last weekend is by standing up to it and voicing your objection. You send a message that such racism, anti-semitism, and xenophobia is unacceptable by showing up to counter-protest - without violence. Not everything has to be done on such a grand scale. If someone tells a joke or makes a comment that is outside the bounds of decent behaviour, you have an obligation to call them on it. Saying it was just a joke is not a valid excuse. I realize that sometimes it is not an easy thing to do, but silence is consent.

So, people of good will have to be counted on the side of being decent human beings. That is how you fight bigotry.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 21 Aug 2017 17:13

That the best you got? It figures.

After a certain point there is no reason to engage with someone who continues to display in so many ways that it is useless.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 20 Aug 2017 16:38

In poll numbers from Ohio, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania reveal that about 65% of voters are embarrassed by Trump. His approval rating among them is tanking to less than the reliable 35%.

In only seven months in office Trump has caused so much damage that it will take a change of government and many years for it to be repaired. All of this began with his despicable campaign against President Obama, questioning his place of birth. What it was really about was being unable to accept an African-American president and that is the root of much of Trump's support.

It is both ironic and fitting that his statement this week confirmed his racist opinions and, for the majority of people including some who supported him, have gone a bridge too far. When David Duke thanks you for your support you know you are doing something very, very wrong.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 20 Aug 2017 08:15

For what it's worth, I like your answer.

It's worth a lot. Thank you.

I have two things to add. Contrary to what Trump said there is no such thing as a nazi who is a fine person and contrary to what doctorlove said Ms Heyer is not responsible for her own death merely by her presence there. Both thoughts are outrageously offensive.