Forum posts made by principessa

Topic Will the alt right take over the GOP or form another party after the election?
Posted 25 Aug 2016 17:53

The alt right is an amorphous group at the far right of American politics. Its adherents reject traditional GOP values and policies. There are elements that call themselves white nationalists. It is generally anti-immigrant and more. One of its leaders, Steve Bannon has become the CEO of Trump's campaign. Some think because of this that the GOP has been co-opted by the alt right and that Trump panders to them. Will the GOP reject this and return to its traditional values after the election? Will the alt right form a new political party like the far right parties in Europe and the UK?

I am adding a link to an article that explains what the alt right is.

And here is one to an article about Bannon.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 15:03

Here is something I didn't know. I wondered about the use of triple parentheses and what it meant. I noticed it in a post in this thread as (((hollywood))). Apparently this is used by alt-right anti-Semites to indicate Jewishness.The parentheses are put around people's names on social media as a sign to other like-minded people that someone is Jewish, or that a company or institution is. It is meant as a signal to open them to a barrage of anti-Semitic posts and messages.

Edit: I am adding a link to an article that explains what the alt right is.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 13:34

This comment was posted today in response to a column entitled "The Age of Post Truth Politics" in the NY Times. I cannot say it better.

This is politics, the dirtiest and most unseemly business in history. Why use facts when lies are so much more convenient? With facts, you have to do research, use discipline to make sure you've got them right, and be honest in the context you surround them with. It takes effort and diligence to use facts, and that gets tiring.

Lies, though, are easy to find, flexible enough for any situation, and always support your point of view. And the kicker is that people don't know a lie when they hear one, so they can be used over and over, and twisted and morphed and evolved to a politician's every whim.

Truth is ephemeral. Lies are everlasting. Hence, Trump.

The column itself starts this way:

Facts hold a sacred place in Western liberal democracies. Whenever democracy seems to be going awry, when voters are manipulated or politicians are ducking questions, we turn to facts for salvation.

But they seem to be losing their ability to support consensus. PolitiFact has found that about 70 percent of Donald Trump’s “factual” statements actually fall into the categories of “mostly false,” “false” and “pants on fire” untruth.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 09:50


I agree with you. I have said many times that Trump has given people permission to articulate opinions that were confined to their homes before. The hate and resentment has always been there, but increased with the election of President Obama. That was more than these troglodytes could accept: a black man was President. Trump rode that wave before he ever declared his candidacy by fueling the birther movement. He is now encouraging his followers to be observers at polls lest there be voter fraud. I interpret this as code for voter intimidation and suppression the likes of which we have not seen since the "60s. These Trump people now have leave to organize themselves as they did in that time. The hate and venom they spew is the same. Trump is also attempting to inoculate himself against his likely loss by alleging voter fraud and a rigged election.

I would like to quote part of a comment in the NY Times regarding a column about Trump encouraging election observers.

This year, especially, Trump's core supporters embody a witch's brew of emotions well-calculated to encourage confrontation at the polls.

Already alienated from an electoral process that has elevated to office people whom they reject as corrupt and illegitimate, many Trumpistas will readily accept their candidate's predictions of a rigged contest. Determined to 'take their country back' from these unworthy interlopers, moreover, some of Trump's more extreme followers would not hesitate to intimidate minority voters, whom they would automatically identify as pro-Clinton.

Once again, Trump's penchant for reckless behavior and provocative comments has threatened to debase the political process. Contemptuous of democratic principles, he will pursue any tactic that improves his chance of victory. If thugs at the polls discourage turnout, so much the better.

I like Goldwater reference. I hope that Trump will be defeated in a similar landslide.

Edit: I edited out a paragraph repeated in error in my quote.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 08:25

What worries me is where all of the hatred unleashed by Trump's campaign will go after the election. Will there be a resurgence of fringe white supremacist and other such groups? The racism, nativism, sexism, homophobia and other unsavory opinions will not just disappear nor will the anger and outrageous claims made by Trump and his followers. We have seen some of that here. It is not good for the US.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 20 Aug 2016 13:24

May Trump's run start to implode ..... and may my American friends see the danger of that asshole.


From your mouth to God's ears.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 20 Aug 2016 11:45

ya know... once upon a time i could actually figure out what it was you were saying, even if i disagreed with it. lately, you're just all over the place and i can't make heads or tails of it. might want to regroup a bit, cause it's just sort... raving... Just a thought. :)

Maybe the capital letters make it all well thought out and intelligent. Oh well, he should be happy now. Trump has ditched Manafort (whose ties to Putin were becoming too embarrassing) and hired right wing zealot and conspriracy theorist Steve Bannon. Bannon's scorched earth tactics would make Lee Atwater and Karl Rove blush. This is not going to be pretty.

Topic Chuckepoo has a Birthday
Posted 19 Aug 2016 14:28

All the best, Chuck.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 16 Aug 2016 11:10

No but hope the Senate remains Republican

That is unlikely since of the 34 up for reelection 24 are GOP. Trump does not have coattails for them, in fact his impact is the opposite. The Dems may not only retake the Senate, but possibly the House as well. The polls indicate the gap between Clinton and Trump growing and many people vote a straight ticket.

btw my PTSD comment was meant as humour. This has been a campaign unlike any other.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 15 Aug 2016 15:51

I wonder if Trump has sporadic LSD flashbacks.

He causes them. He doesn't get them. He will give a lot of people PTSD before this election is over.

I wonder about his constantly repeating things he says twice or three times before going on. Is he stalling for time in his stream of consciousness to think of something else to say?

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 16:56


I will not engage any longer with you about this. I have addressed you respectfully until now rather than as you just addressed me. I will leave you to iron those sheets with the pointy hat as you listen to right wing talk radio or watch Fox News.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 15:03


You are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts.

The divisiveness and ugliness is the product of decades of dog whistle politics by the GOP appealing to veiled racism, nativism, and hyperreligiosity of people and thereby convincing them to vote against their own self-interest. This goes back to Nixon's southern strategy and Reagan's welfare queens. The GOP is the party of the 1%, catering to business and the wealthy while pandering to other voters' worst instincts. And then President Obama was elected. A black man was the POTUS. This was more than many people could bear. The GOP leadership vowed to make him a one-term president and block any legislation or programs he put forward whether or not they would benefit the citizens of the US. The point was that this man was anathema to their voters. President Obama has dealt with the disrespect and hatred with grace and dignity sorely lacking in his opponents. There was no accusation too low or outlandish for them not to throw at him: He was a secret Muslim. He was not born in the US. After more than seven years, this ugliness has reached its apotheosis (or really its low point) with the candidacy and campaign of Donald Trump.

Merriam-Webster defines demagogue as "a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power". Trump fulfills this definition and has released all of the ugliness of racism, sexism, nativism, and more that was previously unspoken in public. He appeals to the worst in people and demonizes minorities and others as scapegoats for their problems. Many of his followers have not adapted to the 21st century global economy, not retrained for current jobs. The days of a high school education leading to a well paying factory job are long past as is the supremacy of the white Anglo-Saxon male. The resentment of losing their place in society is not unfounded, but people have to take responsibility for their futures rather than blaming others for their plight. The US is not going to return to the '50s with minorities at the back of the bus and women in the kitchen. This is what Trump feeds upon and I have no doubt that he realizes exactly what he is doing. He has made hate socially acceptable.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 10:55

Oh trust me... it's no picnic here either. I'm lucky that my husband still holds dual citizenship with the US and Canada. Should things here ever get bad enough, we can always migrate north.

Although this is something that people threaten in every US election, I have a feeling that they mean it this time. There might be a wall on the northern border keeping you in if the Donald were to win. Happily, I don't think that will happen. He may take the GOP majority not only in the Senate but also the House along with him.

I just want him to keep talking and digging the hole deeper. He has finally reached a critical mass of articulating his thoughts that has driven more and more voters away from him. The election results may rival the landslide against Goldwater in the '60s but the ugliness that the Trump campaign has unleashed will not disappear. He is already planting the idea that the election will be rigged against him. The resentment and hatred will fester and have to be addressed and combatted. The GOP will have to rebuild from the ashes and choose whether to reject what decades of their dog whistle politics has created or to become a far right party like those in Europe.

Topic Pray for France.
Posted 15 Jul 2016 08:36

I too have fond memories of vacationing in Nice. It would have been even more beautiful with the fireworks display for Bastille Day. What has happened is horrifying and makes me terribly sad. To do this is inhuman. Those who hate modernity and liberal democracies should go and live in a place that conforms to their thinking, and live with ISIS rather than us. There is a special place in hell for the man who did this. My thoughts are with those who were lost and their loved ones. Especially the children.

Topic Use My Last Word First - in a 5 word sentence..
Posted 14 Jul 2016 15:41

Now get your clothes off.

Topic The WORST movie you ever saw
Posted 14 Jul 2016 15:35

Sex and the City 2 was absolutely awful. The only reason that I didn't walk out was that I was there with a group of female friends.

Topic Is anyone else tired of tattoos?
Posted 14 Jul 2016 15:33

Not a fan. I have to add that what seems like a good idea when you are in your late teens or twenties may not feel the same when you are older. There are conservative professions where tattoos that are visible to all might be frowned upon. Of course like many things that young people do, they don't consider later consequences.

I never wanted one. I did not like the idea of it being painful to get and more painful to remove. I feel the same way about piercings other than earlobes, so I guess I am old school.

Topic Who should be the next US president?
Posted 13 Jul 2016 11:46

The VP choices will be interesting for both parties.

It seems that Trump is looking at Pence, Christie and Gingrich. The solid choice would be Pence (although I disagree with everything he stands for). He is a conservative Christian, low key and experienced in government. Christie would be a twin for Trump in bluster and trash talk. Gingrich is embarrassing himself in pursuing the nod. He is intelligent, but also very acerbic, a doctrinaire conservative who led the impeachment fight against Bill Clinton while he himself was carrying on an extramarital affair. He has been married three times and actually told one of his wives that he wanted a divorce as she was in hospital receiving chemotherapy. Not demonstrative of great character.So between him and Trump there are six marriages and many affairs. Not appealing for conservatives, especially evangelicals.

Clinton has a lot of choices. I doubt she will choose Elizabeth Warren with whom she does not have a warm relationship. Julian Castro and Cory Booker have been mentioned and would help with minority voters. We'll see.

Topic 5 dead police in Dallas
Posted 12 Jul 2016 15:03

I think that the perpetrator could be racist and have mental health issues at the same time.

There are two sides to this equation.

My view is that for a segment of the population the election of President Obama was unacceptable. How was it possible that an African-American could be in this position? They are the people who respond to the dog whistle politics of the GOP, a party that has been cloaking racism in euphemisms like law and order since Nixon's time. The GOP doubled down with the Southern Strategy then and continued race baiting under the tutelage of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. This has reached its logical conclusion with the candidacy of Donald Trump, who has touched all of the noxious bases of racism, sexism, xenophobia, tribalism and more. He has given these racists permission to articulate what previously could only be said within the confines of their homes. Perhaps the cops who are racist have felt enabled in this atmosphere to act on their hatred just as some voters who agree with Trump now feel empowered escalating racial tension in the US by wanting to turn the clock back to the '50s.

African-Americans were being killed by police before the rise of Donald Trump. But he has torn the scab off of this festering wound in the US - systemic racism. Progress has been made since the '60s, but not as much as we imagine if it is necessary for black parents to have "the talk" with their children, advising them to comply in every way with police in order to live through that interaction. We know that black men are stopped for no real reason and questioned, whether driving or just walking down the street. Racial profiling is part of the DNA of some people, not just cops.

So, like a law in physics, there is an equal and opposite reaction with the Black Lives Matter movement. People rightfully question the action of police who are supposed to protect them, not kill them. And then someone takes it to an extreme and Dallas happens. There is a lot of work to be done on the issues of race and justice in America. Progress has been made in the last fifty or sixty years, but bias still exists. People of good will have to talk past these barriers with open hearts and understanding what it is like to walk in the other's shoes. If anything good can come of these events, that would be it.

What we have to remember is the humanity and dignity of everyone, whatever colour, whatever creed, whatever nationality or any other demographic descriptor. The Dallas shooter is no more representative of all African-Americans than Dylan Roof was representative of all Caucasian Americans.

Topic Cops out of control - part 2
Posted 10 Jul 2016 14:29

There are two threads here that are intertwined. The first is the racism that is endemic in the US and has been festering for decades. After the 60s and the end of Jim Crow and segregation, it was inappropriate to voice racist views in polite society, but it was still there. The Repubicans, ironically the party of Lincoln, knowingly and cynically used dog whistle politics to pander to racism with their Southern Strategy and onward from there without conscience from people like Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. This has reached its ugly apotheosis with Donald Trump who has made racism, xenophobia, sexism, tribalism and more not only acceptable, but an election promise.

To make American great again is code for bringing it back to the 1950s, when minorities knew their place and men were in control with their wives dependent at home. The simmering hatred of decades has been unleashed with the help of his campaign. He has made it acceptable to voice all of these abhorrent views without shame. After all it was Trump who denied President Obama's legitimacy questioning where he was born and giving rise to the birthers. The GOP went the next step and promised that their sole goal would be to deny any progress that might be made by the first black president. No one can tell me that there was not racism at the core of their blocking his initiatives. There is a lot of work to do on all sides to remedy this. Racism runs deep and dark and is full of pain. But conversations must happen to bridge these chasms. To do nothing is to condone this. It all starts at a local level in one's community and with activism in politics. It is an enormous issue, but doing nothing will just allow this to continue.

The second thread is the gun culture of the US. There is no reason for the populace to be armed with weapons, especially those that are meant to kill many people quickly and easily as on a battlefield. I understand people living in places like New Hampshire or Montana wanting guns for hunting, but not in cities. I understand that the population of the US is about 323 million and that there are over 300 million guns. Almost one for every man, woman, and child. This is not the militia contemplated by the US Constitution. It is madness. The death grip that the NRA has on US politicians has to end. That nothing was done after Newtown is appalling. The killings go on and on. Enough is enough. Politicians have been feeding at the trough of the NRA and allowed them to have a veto against any form of gun control legislation despite the fact that the majority of the American population is in favour of sensible limits on guns. The politicians are craven fearing retribution from the NRA, bought and paid for. The American electorate has to make their wishes known and vote against anyone with a good record on the NRA scorecard.

Lastly, the police who are decent citizens have to rid their ranks of those who are racist. They have to break the blue wall of silence. The police should be part of the community and must not be a separate entity. Police malfeasance should always be investigated by outside federal authorities to ensure the legitimacy of such investigations. The DOJ should prosecute civil rights violations just as it did decades ago.

(I edited and added to my comment while Sprite was posting.)

Topic Cops out of control - part 2
Posted 07 Jul 2016 13:55

Homeland Security (how's that for irony?) is actually arming the police with surplus weapons from the War on Terror (irony, part 2) and turning them into a paramilitary force.

This is not America.

You are right. However, when the civilian populace has such easy access to guns, not to mention weapons that should really just be seen on a battlefield, the justification for the police is there. Somehow reason must prevail and the American love affair with firearms has to end along with the death grip of the NRA on politicians. If they did not have the courage to do something after Newtown when young children were slaughtered, I don't know what has to happen for them to defy the NRA. America has to disarm itself. The constitutional right to bear arms was meant for a civilian militia more than 200 years ago, not the 21st century.

I will get off my soapbox now.

Topic Britain to have another female Prime Minister
Posted 07 Jul 2016 12:14

I doubt it will impact the US. One can hope it is the beginning of the end for the old boys' network. Cameron overplayed his hand and had to resign. Corbyn did not have the confidence of his party and has proven himself to be an anti-Semite. How could the women not do better?

Topic Cops out of control - part 2
Posted 07 Jul 2016 07:31

We now have two more murders by the police. In their reporting of these events on the Canadian equivalent of CNN it was noted that 1000 people are killed by police every year in the US. The chances are twice as likely that the victim will be black. There are too many police forces that operate as if they were in the south in the 50s and it has to stop. Systemic racism has to end in law enforcement.

Buz is right. Pressure must be put on the federal government to end this violation of the civil rights of its citizens, black, white and everyone else, but clearly blacks in particular. Ensure that all investigations of such incidents are done by the federal Department of Justice rather than locally. Support the ACLU.

Topic Who should be the next US president?
Posted 05 Jul 2016 14:43

I say even if you have to hold your nose, vote for Hillary. The idea of the Donald as President is too appalling to consider.

Please no protest votes. The Brits tried that and look where it got them.

Topic 4-Letter Acronym -Meaning Must Be Related To The Acronym
Posted 29 Jun 2016 19:10

Say what a neck


Topic Brits: Please explain the 'Brexit' situation
Posted 26 Jun 2016 07:36

A lot of people used this referendum as a protest vote, a means to voice their anger with current government policies. They did not really think about the consequences or imagine that the leave side would win. There is a lot of remorse now with the realization that the vote is binding and it is not really what many people wanted. They sent a message to the elites and now have to live with the result. Many wish they had voted remain now.

I hope that this is a lesson for Americans thinking about voting for Donald Trump. Never mind what he would do domestically, imagine him on the international stage and with his finger on the nuclear button. A very scary thought. Be careful what you wish for. This uprising of populism with all that it carries as baggage, his xenophobia, sexism, racism, and willful ignorance along with his bombastic thin-skinned temperament make Trump unsuited for the office of President.

Topic What do you believe about heaven/hell/afterlife/reincarnation/etc?
Posted 25 Jun 2016 14:55

I don't. I believe in what we have here and now, being hopeful for the future and not being stuck in the past.

Topic What's your favorite cookie?
Posted 24 Jun 2016 14:13

Macadamia nut and white chocolate. However there is something to be said for chocolate chip (sometimes with nuts) and oatmeal raisin cookies.

Topic Donald Trump's Campaign is approaching bankruptcy
Posted 24 Jun 2016 14:09

He has made sure that he uses his own hotels and other resources that belong to him and to pay them from campaign funds. I understand that he has reputation for not paying contractors and others who do work for him and trying to bargain down to a fraction of what is owed when he does pay. He intimidates his creditors in that he is not reluctant to be in litigation and has much deeper pockets to finance it than they do. Would he transfer this purported business acumen to government, perhaps refusing to fully pay on US bonds or treasury bills?

He does not have the normal infrastructure of a campaign state by state or for fundraising. Of course, he thinks he knows best. This applies to every aspect of foreign policy, governance, and domestic issues. He says he watches Sunday morning television for information.

This has been another Trump scam, perhaps the most colossal one he has ever pulled. He has hoodwinked a large segment of the US electorate into believing that he actually has plans and policies to make their lives better while appealing to their xenophobia, sexism, racism and more, giving them permission to say in public things that formerly were said only within their homes. So much for making America great again. He does love the "undereducated".

The convention should be interesting.

@ Just_A_Guy_You_Know

You are exactly right. It would be entertaining if it were not so frightening. After the surprise in the Brexit vote, we cannot be sure that he will be rejected.

Topic University Rape Culture
Posted 23 Jun 2016 14:42

@ cdlsf

I don't know what country you are in or what you know about the criminal justice systems of your country or other countries. In common law countries like the US, Canada, and the UK judges do not hear evidence from both the accused and the alleged victim in many if not most criminal cases in countries where the accused is not obliged to testify. There are constitutional protections that allow the accused's case to be put to the court by their lawyer and defense witnesses. The prosecution has the right to cross examine these witnesses just as the defense has the right to cross examine prosecution witnesses. Judges weigh the credibility of witnesses and evidence in bench (judge only) trials, but it is the jury who makes this determination when it is a jury trial. In this case the judge renders a decision on penalty if there is a guilty verdict. I should also add that there is usually a provision for the alleged victim to remain unnamed in the press unless that victim opts to go public. In the Brock Turner case she published her devastating statement, but remained anonymous.

What you have described is not realistic.