Forum posts made by principessa

Topic Standing for the National Anthem
Posted 01 Sep 2016 10:05



he'd be better off there - most Canadians i know won't automatically hate him for being half black.

True. And "Oh Canada" is sung in either English or French. We are used to multicultural here.

Topic University Rape Culture
Posted 31 Aug 2016 13:50

Brock Turner is set to be released.

Man, it makes my blood boil!!

May this be the upside and outcome of such national exposure on the rampant university rape culture .....



I sure hope this bill is accepted and processed.

Van

I agree with you. We can hope that this case got so much publicity that Brock Turner will be under scrutiny for the rest of his life, and that this impacts on his work life and his personal life. How many employers would choose him? How many women would want to date him? I have no doubt that his parents will still be helicopter parents trying to ease his way with their money and connections. However, his victim made a powerful statement that spoke to thousands of people including VP Biden. Turner will always be remembered for one thing in his life no matter what he does. He deserves that.

Topic Standing for the National Anthem
Posted 31 Aug 2016 13:17

The point of freedom of expression is that it is for all opinions not just those you agree with. So, in a free democratic society we have to tolerate opinions that are offensive to us. There are limits on this. The classic legal example is that one may not yell "fire" in a crowded theater. Ideas and opinions are meant to compete in the public square for support.

Topic What was the question?
Posted 30 Aug 2016 18:03

What was the question?

Topic This or That
Posted 30 Aug 2016 17:59

Humour

Wine or beer?

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 30 Aug 2016 08:10

Your election process is too bloody long. Just have a vote already

In Canada it is much shorter. The election we had last fall lasted eleven weeks and that was long for here. It is generally about eight weeks or so. The minimum requirement is 36 days.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 29 Aug 2016 20:18



As I understand it, if one or both gets 15% of the voters n a national public opinion poll... and I have not clue what they do have at this moment as I'm just too lazy to bother looking and let's be real... they seem to change at the drop of a hat... then they will be part of the debates. However, I have no idea when the cutoff for that is so we'll see if one or both make the debate or not.

Honestly... I hope they both do. We need some fresh blood and new voices.

Earlier today I saw the latest numbers. Johnson was at 10% and Stein was at 5%. If I remember correctly Clinton was ahead of Trump by 7%.

Topic Happiness is...
Posted 29 Aug 2016 14:52

No regrets.

Living in the present.

Having found the one.

Small pleasures.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 27 Aug 2016 08:32

....it takes two to tango. You need someone to engage with you. It will not be me.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 27 Aug 2016 07:49

Never mind. I decided not to engage again.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 19:45




Lastly My comment to someone incapable of recognizing the difference between the contempt and disgust I feel for Goebbels and ADMIRATION should be GRATEFUL for being called an airhead, as they haven't as yet met the intellectual requirements to be CONSIDERED TO BE ONE! What's HYSTERICAL is you telling ME to desist when I'm having one disgusting allegation after another hurled at me by you and others on this thread.

I did not notice this before.

You have not once in this thread expressed your contempt and disgust for Goebbels, only your contempt and disgust for anyone who disagrees with you. As Ruthie said, your posts confirm that you agree with and admire him. We take you at your word.

You complain about insults and first call me an airhead and then tell me that I have not met the intellectual level of an airhead. If that is true, you are the Dalai Lama. What I think really rankles you is intelligent, articulate women having the gall to confront you. You are much harder on us than the men who have done so, making a point of belittling and demeaning us with snide name calling. That tells us more about you and what threatens you. So, I would advise you to treat others with the respect you demand for yourself. Or you can continue with your fever dreams and stew in your own vitriol.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 16:13



How do you expect to avoid insults when that is all you deal in. You started off your first post to me as an insult, and I have noticed that you tend to insult any woman who disagrees with you with slurs like "airhead." Do not do so in the future. It is fine that you say you aren't an admirer of Goebbels, but when you post links to his speeches and preface them by saying you and he are on the same page, it makes you seem like a sympathizer. That, along with your habit of posting memes and ideas from known white supremacists sites makes a point that your words don't.

Who on the left is calling for the genocide of the Jews? There is a lot of antisemitism on the right, and plenty of people in the Christian Identity movement, that call for the genocide of everyone who isn't white. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that you have been posting memes from the websites of their numerous organizations.



“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” ~Maya Angelou.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 15:03




Given the "value" I've come to place on your opinions ... BFD! (Oh, and that "venom" is a natural by product of being under constant attack by one insult hurler after another who then wants to sit back and say "WHO? ME?")

We agree then in valuing each other's opinions equally. It is laughable that you now paint yourself as a victim. Tant pis.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 14:26




EXCUSE ME DIRECTLY TO HELL! Listen up you insulting airhead, there is a VAST difference between recognizing the influence that man has had on our media and "admiring" him! My observations in that regard have ZILCH to do with any so called "admiration"! Rather it is my way of CONDEMNING Lame Stream media as having BECOME nothing more than a propaganda tool. Further given the manner in which the left has embraced and defends incessantly those who have long called for Jewish genocide the hypocrisy of you labeling ME as "anti Semitic" is as stupid as it gets!




Best take your blood pressure medication. Given the venom that you have been spouting page after page, you have very thin skin. If you dish it out, you had best learn to take it. Notice I have not had to use all caps to make my point. I stand by my opinion of you.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 26 Aug 2016 12:39



Why am I not surprised you admire a racist Nazi war criminal that cowardly murdered his wife and children before taking his own life?

We now know that both Caddy and Weavindreams admire Goebbels. Caddy uses the triple parentheses - the now not so secret dog whistle for anti-Semites. There is nothing else we need to know.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 25 Aug 2016 19:26

@Ruthie

You are both intelligent and patient and probably too kind to someone who does not want to listen to anything or anyone who does not mirror his opinions. I disengaged from any back and forth with him because there is no way to have a discussion with someone like this. He has his talking points and cartoons and prepackaged talking points from the fringes of the internet and his reliable right wing sources. He has contempt for any other world view and any one who holds one. He will not stop yelling with capital letters or refrain from the tired conspiracy theories and outrageous claims he makes.


Topic Will the alt right take over the GOP or form another party after the election?
Posted 25 Aug 2016 17:53

The alt right is an amorphous group at the far right of American politics. Its adherents reject traditional GOP values and policies. There are elements that call themselves white nationalists. It is generally anti-immigrant and more. One of its leaders, Steve Bannon has become the CEO of Trump's campaign. Some think because of this that the GOP has been co-opted by the alt right and that Trump panders to them. Will the GOP reject this and return to its traditional values after the election? Will the alt right form a new political party like the far right parties in Europe and the UK?

I am adding a link to an article that explains what the alt right is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/24/whats-the-alt-right-a-primer/

And here is one to an article about Bannon.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/the-radical-anti-conservatism-of-stephen-bannon/496796/

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 15:03

Here is something I didn't know. I wondered about the use of triple parentheses and what it meant. I noticed it in a post in this thread as (((hollywood))). Apparently this is used by alt-right anti-Semites to indicate Jewishness.The parentheses are put around people's names on social media as a sign to other like-minded people that someone is Jewish, or that a company or institution is. It is meant as a signal to open them to a barrage of anti-Semitic posts and messages.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2016/jun/12/echoes-beating-the-far-right-two-triple-brackets-at-a-time


Edit: I am adding a link to an article that explains what the alt right is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/24/whats-the-alt-right-a-primer/

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 13:34

This comment was posted today in response to a column entitled "The Age of Post Truth Politics" in the NY Times. I cannot say it better.

This is politics, the dirtiest and most unseemly business in history. Why use facts when lies are so much more convenient? With facts, you have to do research, use discipline to make sure you've got them right, and be honest in the context you surround them with. It takes effort and diligence to use facts, and that gets tiring.

Lies, though, are easy to find, flexible enough for any situation, and always support your point of view. And the kicker is that people don't know a lie when they hear one, so they can be used over and over, and twisted and morphed and evolved to a politician's every whim.

Truth is ephemeral. Lies are everlasting. Hence, Trump.

The column itself starts this way:

Facts hold a sacred place in Western liberal democracies. Whenever democracy seems to be going awry, when voters are manipulated or politicians are ducking questions, we turn to facts for salvation.

But they seem to be losing their ability to support consensus. PolitiFact has found that about 70 percent of Donald Trump’s “factual” statements actually fall into the categories of “mostly false,” “false” and “pants on fire” untruth.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 09:50

@Regnadkcin

I agree with you. I have said many times that Trump has given people permission to articulate opinions that were confined to their homes before. The hate and resentment has always been there, but increased with the election of President Obama. That was more than these troglodytes could accept: a black man was President. Trump rode that wave before he ever declared his candidacy by fueling the birther movement. He is now encouraging his followers to be observers at polls lest there be voter fraud. I interpret this as code for voter intimidation and suppression the likes of which we have not seen since the "60s. These Trump people now have leave to organize themselves as they did in that time. The hate and venom they spew is the same. Trump is also attempting to inoculate himself against his likely loss by alleging voter fraud and a rigged election.

I would like to quote part of a comment in the NY Times regarding a column about Trump encouraging election observers.

This year, especially, Trump's core supporters embody a witch's brew of emotions well-calculated to encourage confrontation at the polls.

Already alienated from an electoral process that has elevated to office people whom they reject as corrupt and illegitimate, many Trumpistas will readily accept their candidate's predictions of a rigged contest. Determined to 'take their country back' from these unworthy interlopers, moreover, some of Trump's more extreme followers would not hesitate to intimidate minority voters, whom they would automatically identify as pro-Clinton.

Once again, Trump's penchant for reckless behavior and provocative comments has threatened to debase the political process. Contemptuous of democratic principles, he will pursue any tactic that improves his chance of victory. If thugs at the polls discourage turnout, so much the better.



I like Goldwater reference. I hope that Trump will be defeated in a similar landslide.

Edit: I edited out a paragraph repeated in error in my quote.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 24 Aug 2016 08:25

What worries me is where all of the hatred unleashed by Trump's campaign will go after the election. Will there be a resurgence of fringe white supremacist and other such groups? The racism, nativism, sexism, homophobia and other unsavory opinions will not just disappear nor will the anger and outrageous claims made by Trump and his followers. We have seen some of that here. It is not good for the US.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 20 Aug 2016 13:24

May Trump's run start to implode ..... and may my American friends see the danger of that asshole.

Van

From your mouth to God's ears.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 20 Aug 2016 11:45



ya know... once upon a time i could actually figure out what it was you were saying, even if i disagreed with it. lately, you're just all over the place and i can't make heads or tails of it. might want to regroup a bit, cause it's just sort... raving... Just a thought. :)

Maybe the capital letters make it all well thought out and intelligent. Oh well, he should be happy now. Trump has ditched Manafort (whose ties to Putin were becoming too embarrassing) and hired right wing zealot and conspriracy theorist Steve Bannon. Bannon's scorched earth tactics would make Lee Atwater and Karl Rove blush. This is not going to be pretty.

Topic Chuckepoo has a Birthday
Posted 19 Aug 2016 14:28

https://upload.lushstories.com/32091299-birthday.jpg

All the best, Chuck.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 16 Aug 2016 11:10

No but hope the Senate remains Republican

That is unlikely since of the 34 up for reelection 24 are GOP. Trump does not have coattails for them, in fact his impact is the opposite. The Dems may not only retake the Senate, but possibly the House as well. The polls indicate the gap between Clinton and Trump growing and many people vote a straight ticket.

btw my PTSD comment was meant as humour. This has been a campaign unlike any other.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 15 Aug 2016 15:51

I wonder if Trump has sporadic LSD flashbacks.

He causes them. He doesn't get them. He will give a lot of people PTSD before this election is over.

I wonder about his constantly repeating things he says twice or three times before going on. Is he stalling for time in his stream of consciousness to think of something else to say?

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 16:56

@Weavindreams

I will not engage any longer with you about this. I have addressed you respectfully until now rather than as you just addressed me. I will leave you to iron those sheets with the pointy hat as you listen to right wing talk radio or watch Fox News.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 15:03

@Weavindreams

You are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts.

The divisiveness and ugliness is the product of decades of dog whistle politics by the GOP appealing to veiled racism, nativism, and hyperreligiosity of people and thereby convincing them to vote against their own self-interest. This goes back to Nixon's southern strategy and Reagan's welfare queens. The GOP is the party of the 1%, catering to business and the wealthy while pandering to other voters' worst instincts. And then President Obama was elected. A black man was the POTUS. This was more than many people could bear. The GOP leadership vowed to make him a one-term president and block any legislation or programs he put forward whether or not they would benefit the citizens of the US. The point was that this man was anathema to their voters. President Obama has dealt with the disrespect and hatred with grace and dignity sorely lacking in his opponents. There was no accusation too low or outlandish for them not to throw at him: He was a secret Muslim. He was not born in the US. After more than seven years, this ugliness has reached its apotheosis (or really its low point) with the candidacy and campaign of Donald Trump.

Merriam-Webster defines demagogue as "a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power". Trump fulfills this definition and has released all of the ugliness of racism, sexism, nativism, and more that was previously unspoken in public. He appeals to the worst in people and demonizes minorities and others as scapegoats for their problems. Many of his followers have not adapted to the 21st century global economy, not retrained for current jobs. The days of a high school education leading to a well paying factory job are long past as is the supremacy of the white Anglo-Saxon male. The resentment of losing their place in society is not unfounded, but people have to take responsibility for their futures rather than blaming others for their plight. The US is not going to return to the '50s with minorities at the back of the bus and women in the kitchen. This is what Trump feeds upon and I have no doubt that he realizes exactly what he is doing. He has made hate socially acceptable.

Topic February Fast Approaches... Donald Trump is being taken seriously... Should we be TERRIFIED???
Posted 14 Aug 2016 10:55



Oh trust me... it's no picnic here either. I'm lucky that my husband still holds dual citizenship with the US and Canada. Should things here ever get bad enough, we can always migrate north.

Although this is something that people threaten in every US election, I have a feeling that they mean it this time. There might be a wall on the northern border keeping you in if the Donald were to win. Happily, I don't think that will happen. He may take the GOP majority not only in the Senate but also the House along with him.

I just want him to keep talking and digging the hole deeper. He has finally reached a critical mass of articulating his thoughts that has driven more and more voters away from him. The election results may rival the landslide against Goldwater in the '60s but the ugliness that the Trump campaign has unleashed will not disappear. He is already planting the idea that the election will be rigged against him. The resentment and hatred will fester and have to be addressed and combatted. The GOP will have to rebuild from the ashes and choose whether to reject what decades of their dog whistle politics has created or to become a far right party like those in Europe.