Forum posts made by principessa

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 02 Nov 2017 17:37

The net is getting closer and closer. Tonight's news reported that Papadopoulos, who made a plea deal, has testified under oath that he discussed a trip to Russia with Jeff Sessions, the current AG, during the campaign. This contradicts all of Sessions' slippery testimony about contacts with Russia and what he knew. As well Jared Kusher has turned documents to the investigation. They are interested in him as part of the Russian meddling issue as well as his role in Trump's firing of Comey and the firing of James Comey.

Topic Donna Throws Debbie and Hillary Under the Bus
Posted 02 Nov 2017 07:39

How about Kamala Harris or Cory Booker or Sherrod Brown? If I think about it some more I could come up with more names.

Topic Kevin Spacey Sexual Assault Allegations against 14 year old Anthony Rapp.
Posted 02 Nov 2017 07:21

This pisses me off. I do like the show, but even so, they don't really need him to continue. Robin Wright as Clair is amazeballs and if they give her a platform, she will blow us all away.

I know. I binge watch it as each new season comes out. She is fantastic in it. A modern day Lady Macbeth.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 01 Nov 2017 11:32

I'll believe that if and when Hillary is put in a prison jump suit.

You're the one who brought that up.

Topic USA 2018 Mid Term Elections
Posted 01 Nov 2017 11:28

Quite right! The right-wing is very skilled at framing the narrative, painting the left with made-up sound-bites like 'identity politics' that stick with low-information voters. Just because the right doesn't value blacks, gays, and other minorities as fellow human beings with the same rights they claim for themselves, the platform of the Democrats, who do value these people abandoned by the conservatives, is portrayed as a single-issue: favoring the dispossessed over 'true Americans'. It's a very convenient ploy, couched in bigotry.

Democrats need to be vociferous in defining their own narrative, informing the low-information right wing-nut working class that they have more in common with the oppressed whom they villify than they do the billionaire class whom they invariably vote to support.

That is it precisely. The GOP has managed for decades to get people to vote against their own self interests with dog whistle politics. Their appeal has a subtext of racism, an isolationist nationalism, and now anti-immigrant scares. People are made to forget that the US was founded by and populated with immigrants. These appeals are wrapped in the flag and label any other stance as un-American. Then when voted into office the GOP's crony politics continues. Tax cuts for the rich. Contracts for their friends. Dimunition of regulation that leads to situations like the mercury in the water in Michigan, always in low income areas of course. The GOP works against workers' rights and those of women and minorities. They pander to the evangelicals with pro-life and homophobic stances, forgetting the basic tenet of separation of church and state. The continue to bait and switch election after election. The Dems have to go back to basics and convince working and middle class Americans that they will govern in their interest. They have to fight the efforts of the GOP governors to suppress minority voting which is assumed to go Democrat.

With the election of Trump, there is a segment of the population that is convinced the clock can be turned back to the 1950s, the good old days for white men but no one else. The Dems have to show that these policies are not for the greater good and motivate those turned off by politics to show up and vote for a party that will actually work for them. Staying home is not an option in 2018.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 01 Nov 2017 10:26

The "constant deflection" is because these issues have come up before. How they were handled, or mishandled, in the past offers some guidance on what we can expect in this case and in future cases.

The OP's question was "Will he be impeached." I think comparisons to previous incidents shed some light on the possible answers. Is there some reason you're opposed to that?

The justice system in common law countries like yours and mine is based on precedent, but these are the decisions in cases that have been tried and decided. You are entitled to your speculation about Hillary, but that doesn't impact the allegations against Trump and his team or what Mueller will uncover and act upon. For some it takes their attention away from real transgressions to divert them to another shiny object. Not you, of course. So, to answer the question, I think Trump will be impeached or leave office to avoid it. Discussing evidence against him is relevant to that question. Discussing charges against his associates is relevant. Fantasies about Hillary in an orange jumpsuit are not.

Topic Why anyone who identifies themselves as LGBTQ should pay close attention.
Posted 01 Nov 2017 10:17

Cause Hilary would have been all about supporting white supremacy, promoting homophobes to positions of power, and giving a big thumbs up to the misogynists of the world. your view of right and wrong is kind of twisted - and you call me disgusting. heh. too cute.

You forgot praising those marching like 1930s brownshirts with torches and shouting anti-semitic slogans.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 01 Nov 2017 10:09

The problem with your reasoning is, that DOJ already investigated Hillary and found no reason to indict her, and Onama never gave a reason to be investigated.

That said, why are either Hillary's or Obama's alleged crimes relevant for the question if Trump and his associates should be investigated? That should not be determined by how good or bad others are or were, but by information about the actions and behaviour of those under investigation.

Thank you. Nothing that President Obama and/or Hillary Clinton did or did not do has any relevance in assessing and investigating Trump and his team. Zero. The constant deflection is perhaps because his base cannot defend the indefensible.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 01 Nov 2017 09:34

I get it. There are some of you here and a proportion of the US population out there that hate Hillary Clinton and think the sun shines out of Donald Trump's ass. Fine. That is your opinion and how you voted. However, no matter how much you hate her, it doesn't transform Trump into something he is not: a leader and a statesman.

As news comes out about transgressions in his administration his standard strategy is to provide a new shiny object, a new accusation against Clinton, for you to focus on and divert your attention from what he is doing or has done. That doesn't change what Mueller and his team are investigating and will prove. The Trump campaign and members of its administration have conspired with the Russians to skew the US election, thereby undermining American democracy, the same democracy that the right holds so dear. There have been many ethical issues whereby he and his family have enriched themselves contrary to norms of governing. No less important is Trump attempting to obstruct justice in asking Comey to go easy on Flynn and then firing Comey when he didn't. It will take some time and patience until we see where this goes, but this will be a serious as Watergate was for Nixon.

No amount of bleating Hillary did this or that will change it. I could lay out the facts to refute the latest allegations regarding uranium, and how it would involve nine levels of government, but you will neither listen nor accept it, because it defies the narrative you prefer. I watched a political panel last night and someone said something that has become obvious but is worth repeating. No matter what is reported that runs counter to the Trump fable, no matter how ironclad the evidence and reputable the source, his base will not believe it. I don't expect to change that with anything I say, but I will warn you that it will all end badly and you will be more than disappointed. You will understand then how you have been conned and had your hopes taken advantage of by a world class grifter.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 31 Oct 2017 18:14

I'll believe that if and when Hillary is put in a prison jump suit.

You have that in common with Michael Flynn, but it is he who is in trouble.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 31 Oct 2017 18:12

Or it will end up with some poor level schmuck, like Scooter Libby, spending some time in prison.

Bush II commuted his sentence before he began serving it.

Topic Kevin Spacey Sexual Assault Allegations against 14 year old Anthony Rapp.
Posted 31 Oct 2017 15:57

Netflix has announced that the production of the final season of "House of Cards" is now suspended indefinitely. As well, an award Spacey was to receive from the Emmys - the Founders' Award - has now been rescinded.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 30 Oct 2017 19:55

Back to the original question.

"This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning." Winston Churchill

The first indictments are public now as well as a plea deal. Mueller and his team have been working methodically layer by layer to find out where the collusion was and by whom. This is a good start and I have no doubt that Trump and his team are nervous tonight. It is the first time since Watergate that a campaign chair has been indicted. I wonder if Don Jr. and Jared Kushner will be next. I think that Don Jr. is Trump's Fredo, the dumb weak link.

This is not just about money and misinformation and collusion with Russia. There is another thread regarding obstruction of justice. Both undermine American democracy by efforts to skew an election and pervert the rule of law respectively. No one is above the law, including Donald Trump.

If the US survived Watergate and Richard Nixon, it can survive this. Trump will eventually be impeached or retire early to spend more time with his family and play golf unless of course he is charged with obstruction of justice.

We just have to be patient. Another quote: The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

Topic Why anyone who identifies themselves as LGBTQ should pay close attention.
Posted 30 Oct 2017 19:40

I hope that everyone will focus their attention locally to defeat vulnerable GOP candidates. What Sprite described is beyond anything even conservatives have ever contemplated doing. Human rights and civil liberties are the basic elements of western democracies and they are in danger under this administration, more so if Pence replaces Trump.

Topic Harvey Weinstein
Posted 30 Oct 2017 14:35

It's a valid point, Trinks. I should have been more clear. When I say I'm opposed to those "in-the-know" doing nothing, I don't necessarily mean they should go to the police or name any victim. They could do something though. Like warn other actresses, refuse to do work for his studio, privately speak to directors and tell them they should be on the lookout for the safety of their actresses. Let directors know, you've been told there is a potential problem, if you intervene between HW and some actress and something happens, you're just as culpable.

Each offense is different, how it should be dealt with is different. There's the well being of the victim, to be sure. All I know is, doing nothing isn't the right thing. Decades of doing nothing has left us with loooong list of people who have been victimized.

edit... might I add.. Kevin Spacey's "apology" for attempted molestation of a 14 year old is utterly horrendous. For decades, gay men were viewed as pedophiles and perverts, by piggy-backing his apology with coming out, he reaffirmed those stupid stereotypes. What an asshole.

Excusing his behaviour because he was drunk only adds to my disgust. And I have to add that there was no necessity for him to announce he is gay. It was not exactly news.

Topic USA 2018 Mid Term Elections
Posted 30 Oct 2017 13:51

Topic USA 2018 Mid Term Elections
Posted 30 Oct 2017 07:32

I think your response proved my point.

I took your angel away because you did not begin this argument with clean hands. It was you doing the labeling. You called anyone who disagrees with you as much more left, Marxist and Stalinist - the furthest point on the spectrum. Not true. Not appropriate. I tried to compare that to calling right wing GOP supporters white nationalist neo-nazis, but did not label you that way. You also implied that Canadian commenters who disagree with Trump are the Canadian antifa. Again a gross exaggeration. The person name calling here is you.

What is going on on US campuses may be related to the poisonous atmosphere of US politics. However, do not assume that we all agree with the suppression of free speech. In any event that is an entirely different discussion.

As to getting away from Seax's topic, you did that with your post, immediately following his.

If it bothers you that you get pushback on your politics and support for Trump, you are probably in the wrong place. I am certain that there are right leaning sites and fora where you can have your opinions echoed to your satisfaction.

I did not prove your point. I identified your skewed views of those who oppose you. You proved your own point by not being respectful or rational. The only hateful words I read were yours.


Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Oct 2017 13:21

Bloody lovely!

Washington, DC has never had any shortage of scumbags. But some carry on as if Trump is the first they've ever seen. Any attempt to point out that they're wrong becomes an attempt to divert attention to Hillary. You do realize that Hillary was no Mother Teresa, right?

I do. Even Mother Teresa was no paragon of virtue. However, countering every charge against Trump/Clinton with one against the opposite party does not make the charges any less or more believable or true. Charges against either should be judged based on the evidence presented and the proved veracity of that evidence.

Topic USA 2018 Mid Term Elections
Posted 29 Oct 2017 12:46

You should post this in the Spa. Impossible to get a rational discussion in this place. It's full of Marxists who act like Stalinists, all gathered under the umbrella of Democrat. Hope you have your crash hat on for the arrival of the Canadian antifa, fully masked. Brave post Seax! free speech anti.jpg

You're right. No rational debate is possible in an arena where anyone who does not agree with Trump is labelled a Marxist/Stalinist. That is as appropriate as labeling his supporters as white nationalist neo-nazis. I believe both are wrong. I guess I am member of the Canadian antifa in your view. Also wrong. Your posted cartoon is ironic given what you said. This is how politics gets hateful rather than being a meaningful and respectful debate.

Maybe we should just do away with elections and debate, rip up the Constitution, and crown Trump. He could then rule by fiat and make all your dreams come true. Who needs democracy and free speech anyhow if you have to tolerate alternate points of view?

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Oct 2017 12:27

This thread is so interesting. It demonstrates that there is no accusation against either President Obama or Hillary Clinton that a segment of the electorate will not unquestionably believe. In an era where truth is fake news and lies are alternate facts, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I am reminded of something that the late Senator Patrick Moynihan said, "Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

I trust that Robert Mueller, a man of impeccable integrity, will get to the truth, layer by layer, as high up as it goes.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Oct 2017 09:54

In the law, one usually starts with a crime and works the trails of breadcrumbs till they lead to one or more suspects. Here we're seeing that turned on it's head. Mueller has a list of suspects, and is following the breadcrumbs hoping to find a crime.

But what happens if one or more of the trails he's following lead to a certain residence in Chappaqua, NY? Are we going to play fair and demand a hanging after a fair trial? Or does the resident of that house get a pass because it's old news?

This is the standard play of Trump supporters: in the face of any allegation against him or his team divert attention to Hillary Clinton. Adele has provided a response already to that canard.

Nobody is demanding a hanging. Just that the justice system do its job and that Congress does the same with impeachment proceedings if there is sufficient evidence to go forward.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Oct 2017 08:50

Speculation is rampant as to who it might be... mannafort and flynn are certainly good guesses, and it would surely be amazing if it were kushner or little trump. However, it is just as likely to be someone less obvious like flynn's son, or carter page, or one of the lawyers entangled in the mess, or even some minor player we never heard of. Mueller is more likely to start with the smaller fish and work his way up the line (which also sends a message to some of those further up the food chain he is getting closer). Some of the bigger fish could end up have multiple charges brought against them, and one line of thought is that Mueller would want to have all the info tied up so a whole list of charges could be filed at once, rather than piecemeal.

In view of the fact that new information continues to surface nearly daily. it is still too early to assume he is ready to start hitting the higher ups just yet. UNLESS, one of them has info and he knows it, and is using the indictment as a bargaining tool to get the info. Also, there is a chance that the indictment will not be unsealed and served on Monday, but at a later date.

I agree with you. It is too early for it to be high on the food chain. Mueller and his team are building cases from the outer rim of the circle inward, slowly and methodically, and will uncover what actually happened. I would be shocked if there weren't both links and collusion with the Russians on the part of Manafort, Flynn, and others, possibly even Don Jr. and Kushner. Let us remember that information, or in this case disinformation, has value skewing the perceptions of the electorate. It does not have to be money contributed illegally to a campaign. They will follow the Watergate rule and follow the money and see where and to whom it leads.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Oct 2017 08:35

And if it is on your side of the fence, it would be interesting to see the spin.

As opposed to the constant spin from the WH and their proxies on Fox to divert attention to Hillary Clinton. What will be interesting will be the reaction to the indictments and how far into the WH they reach. There may well be people who plead to lesser charges in exchange for testimony against higher ups. I have no doubt that this leads to the Oval Office.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Oct 2017 07:38

#IndictmentMonday ..... October 30th, 2017

Can't wait for Monday!!


Me, too. I hope that it is the beginning of the undoing of the Trump administration with criminal indictments against several members of his team, perhaps even a family member, and lay the ground for impeachment against Trump.

Any guesses as to who might be first? I think Manafort or Flynn for financial crimes and their connection to and collusion with the Russians during the election.

Topic Harvey Weinstein
Posted 27 Oct 2017 16:31

Why is this necessary?

I wondered about it not being a response to the previous post, but rather indicating that the poster wanted to sit back and watch the show/fight.

We have had a private discussion about it.

Topic Harvey Weinstein
Posted 27 Oct 2017 09:55

Several people on this thread have attacked me for suggesting that if more victims had come forward, HW might have been stopped earlier. That others who knew couldn't come forward without naming the victim so they stayed quiet too. Does your comment now mean what I said isn't as offensive as you first said it was?

So now you're saying they did the wrong thing by keeping quiet. Which is it?

And to answer your ridiculous question, no, heymoe's post was not ok. his post was more than disgusting yet you posted at me and not him. Interesting.

You may think that you are the center of the universe, but actually not everything is about you.

I was talking about those who were aware and stood by, not his victims. Some have come forward now, like Matt Damon, saying that they regret keeping quiet. Read carefully. I was not contradicting myself. You accuse others of seeing what they want to see rather than reading your posts carefully. Do the same.

I posted a response to heymoe's post separately from yours.

As for your post, I thought you might confront him rather than metaphorically sit back to watch the fight. We all have our own sense of what is important, I guess.

Topic Harvey Weinstein
Posted 26 Oct 2017 17:15

No, that's just too easy. He's a man like me, a homo sapiens sapiens like you and me. But he's just one who seems to lack empathy or control over his basic impulses. He's an ass.

He is a rich and powerful man. He is an entitled bully who has behaved in an obnoxious manner to both men and women over and above the sexual assaults. He has operated in an environment that allowed him to get away with it all until now. There are many actors, producers, directors and writers who were well aware of what he was doing. It is disgraceful that they looked on and said nothing. This has apparently been going on for decades. There is plenty of guilt and shame to go around, especially including those who were powerful enough to be heard if they had outed him.

The Neanderthal is heymoe, the one who posted that ignorant opinion.

Topic Harvey Weinstein
Posted 26 Oct 2017 14:08

think about what happened . --A powerful man granted favors to people he liked . Sorry folks , I consider that to be instinct in the animal kingdom. That has been going on since the dawn of time ! That is called -"the real world". Now, remember , those actresses got what they wanted also. Actually that is a distinct advantage that women have over men . Nothing new here ! lol .
Now, please realize I don't condone it , BUT -----that is the way it is ---INSTINCT.

So, your opinion is that men are hard wired to rape women and assault them sexually, and that women use this to get what they want. Somehow, in your view, being victimized is an advantage for women over men. What planet do you live on? There are myriad ways that this is offensive but I have a feeling that explaining it to you would be a waste of my time. I wonder how you explain this to women in your life.

I would like to see some responses from men here about this assertion.

Topic Harvey Weinstein
Posted 26 Oct 2017 13:56

Was the preceding post okay with you?

Topic The Slimeball-in-Chief Strikes Again
Posted 26 Oct 2017 09:25

If you get information somewhere other than Fox and Breitbart you will be aware that Trump and his administration are doing. They are not draining the swamp or helping the people who voted for him because of his populist appeal. He and the GOP as always are working for the wealthy and large corporations. This is from the NYTimes:

At his inauguration Mr. Trump said his presidency was about “transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the American people.” But he and his allies in Congress are transferring power to Wall Street, fossil fuel companies, the chemical industry and other special interests, and are stoking an anti-populist bonfire to incinerate protections for consumers and workers.

On Tuesday night the Senate, with a tiebreaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence, followed the House in voting to overturn a rule that would have allowed consumers to file class-action lawsuits against banks and other financial institutions, rather than be forced to take their disputes to arbitration. The regulation, created after fraud and malfeasance by those businesses financially ruined thousands of Americans and almost wrecked the world economy, joins a series of Obama-era rules that Congress and Mr. Trump have shredded. Meanwhile, they have taken several actions to benefit the well-off at the expense of average Americans.

Health care sabotage.

Mr. Trump signed an executive order allowing insurers to sell skimpy health insurance plans that do not protect people with pre-existing conditions and that will destabilize the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces. He also said he would stop making payments to insurers that were authorized by the 2010 law, which will cause companies to increase premiums, hurting middle-class families. His administration shortened the open enrollment period when people can buy insurance policies for next year, and slashed spending on advertising and outreach efforts.

The administration made it easier for companies to stop providing no-cost birth control to employees if they have religious or moral objections to doing so. It announced that teenage pregnancy prevention grants would end two years early. Congress repealed an Obama-era rule that forbade states to deny family planning funds to Planned Parenthood.

Environmental harm.

Congress overturned a rule restricting the ability of coal companies to dump their mining debris into streams and other waterways, threatening rural communities, forests and wildlife.

The head of the Environmental Protection Agency, Scott Pruitt, rejected a staff recommendation to ban the pesticide chlorpyrifos, which has been linked to developmental problems in children, and started the process to overturn the Clean Power Plan, the Obama-era proposal to reduce planet-warming emissions from power plants.

Hurting workers.

Congress repealed an Obama-era rule that would have required companies seeking federal contracts of $500,000 or more to disclose and fix serious labor and safety violations. It also struck down an Obama-era rule that would have required employers to keep records of workplace injuries for five years, to make sure employers did not hide such information. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration proposed changes that would weaken a rule intended to limit workers’ exposure to beryllium, an industrial mineral linked to lung damage and estimated to cause about 100 deaths a year.

The Education Department has delayed implementation of an Obama-era rule to ensure that for-profit colleges seeking federal funds were preparing students for good jobs and they made sure students’ debt was not too burdensome.

Even though Republicans often describe themselves as champions of states’ rights, Congress made it harder for states and local governments to create retirement accounts for workers whose employers do not provide 401(k) accounts and pensions.

Making housing less affordable.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development delayed by two years a rule that would help poor people in high-cost areas by changing how the value of housing vouchers is calculated.

Helping big corporations.

Congress repealed a Securities and Exchange Commission rule that sought to expose and limit corruption by requiring oil and mining companies to disclose payments to foreign governments. Under the direction of a Trump appointee, the Federal Communications Commission has eased the cap on how many local TV stations one company can own — and is considering relaxing it even further — helping the conservative broadcaster Sinclair and limiting the diversity of voices on the nation’s airwaves. Congress overturned an F.C.C. rule requiring telecommunications companies to get consumers’ permission before collecting, using and selling personal information.

The House and Senate repealed a regulation that would have barred about 75,000 people suffering from conditions like schizophrenia and psychotic disorders — when such conditions prevent them from managing their own financial affairs — from buying a gun.

Still, Republicans in Congress have yet to achieve some of their grandest dreams, like huge tax cuts for the wealthy, and they are counting on Mr. Trump to deliver. Spoilsports like Senator Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, may fret about the small stuff, like, as he said on the Senate floor on Tuesday, “the threats against principles, freedoms and institutions, the flagrant disregard for truth and decency.” But what’s all that compared to a bonanza for special interests?