Forum posts made by principessa

Topic Power Play by Principessa and Milik_the_Red
Posted 15 Sep 2017 09:16

We are now at less than 300 views for the Famous Story badge. I know it would please both Milik and me if we reach that level. You may like the story well enough to read the subsequent chapters. I know that sometimes it is difficult to keep interested in multi-part stories, but I promise that this one will keep you coming back for more and interested to see what happens next.

I have posted the links above. I would be grateful if you help push us over the top.

Topic FBI Qualifies Antifa Confrontations as Domestic Terrorist Violence
Posted 13 Sep 2017 13:34

After he was attacked by Antifa.

Actions --> reactions.

So deliberately gunning your car at a crowd is an appropriate reaction? I guess anyone who doesn't agree with your politics is expendable without conscience. You abhor alleged violence of Antifa and excuse and applaud it from racist anti-semites. I call that morally bankrupt.

Topic Where and how did you learn of the attacks on 9/11/01?
Posted 13 Sep 2017 12:34

I was at work and was told what happened by my assistant. I didn't believe him at first and insisted that he show me the site that was the source of this information. I thought at first it was some kind of internet hoax.

I remember that I tried unsuccessfully to contact a classmate who works for Goldman Sachs which is in that area and could not get him until many hours later.

It was a glorious day - blue sky, warm weather - and hard to process what had happened. Everyone was so upset and worried about something happening in our financial district that we cleared the office and sent everyone home. Of course I spent the rest of the day and night glued to the television, thinking about the last time I had been in New York and in that neighbourhood. I remember crying for all who had been lost and also thinking about a time that I had been to Windows on the World, the restaurant atop the WTC for dinner.

Topic FBI Qualifies Antifa Confrontations as Domestic Terrorist Violence
Posted 13 Sep 2017 12:21

You're repeating what I've already stated. Again, if Antifa hadn't shown up in Charlottesville to commit their usual assault, violence, and destruction, Heather Heyer would still be alive. I don't know how anyone could dispute that.

Your remark is the epitome of either cognitive dissonance or willful blindness. It was one of the white supremacists who deliberately killed Heather Heyer. There, I just disputed it.

Topic On being a moderate Democrat
Posted 10 Sep 2017 12:41

The whole political spectrum in Canada is to the left of that in the US, so it is easy to classify myself as a moderate Democrat were I an American. I do not believe in the GOP's tax cuts for the rich and trickle down economics. I am for gender equality including equal pay for equal work and all that is outlined in most human rights legislation. I do not believe that religion should be mixed into politics and that the values of one group should be forced on all. There should be a strict separation of church and state. I am for freedom of choice regarding abortions. I am against capital punishment. I think that health care should not be a for profit industry and there should be a single payer system that covers everyone as in Canada. If you want more than that coverage, you should be able to buy insurance that covers that. I think that no one should be bankrupted by a catastrophic illness in their family and that seniors' drugs should be covered by a government program. I believe in much more stringent gun control than is the norm in the US. No one needs an AK47 to go hunting. I believe that there should be more control of political contributions in elections.

So, I am a moderate Democrat Canadian.

Topic Using your freedom of speech
Posted 10 Sep 2017 08:49

As far as I know, discrimination on grounds of race, religion, sex, gender, sexual orientation etc. and acts of violence are against the law. Speech that promotes or incites such violence or discrimination should therefore also be outlawed, because inciting a crime is a crime in itself and, if I'm not mistaken, a felony under American law.

While there are some jurisdictions where there are laws against hate speech, as a generality democratic countries do not put a limit on the content of freedom of speech. The idea is that all ideas, even odious ones, may be presented and argued about in the marketplace of ideas. It is up to those who abhor racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-semitic speech to speak up against it, and demonstrate that the majority of the population also abhors such speech. Remember also that you cannot arrest someone for what they think or what they might do. The ACLU in the US which is a highly respected constitutional rights organization has defended the rights of some to speak despite the loathsome content of their speech.

Topic If Trump can be President, can Kanye??
Posted 08 Sep 2017 17:09

It's not because he was born in Austria, it's because he's NOT a naturalized US citizen. I was born in Japan, but I am a Natural US citizen due to my parents being US citizens. However, I will not run simply because.

I believe that naturalized US citizen means either born in the US or born elsewhere and having one or both parents being US citizens. That does not apply to Arnold as his parents were Austrian, neither being an American citizen. I should have made my post more detailed. He had to go through a naturalization process to become a US citizen.

Topic Tolerating Intolerance
Posted 08 Sep 2017 16:15

Topic FBI Qualifies Antifa Confrontations as Domestic Terrorist Violence
Posted 08 Sep 2017 08:42

Well, right off the bat, with your very first piece of "evidence", you repeated a lie that has been debunked countless times. Trump did not "mock a disabled reporter." He mocked a reporter who happened to be disabled, in a way that the left misinterpreted. Trump waved his arms around in a way that he later repeated when he mocked two other people -- during the same speech -- who aren't disabled. His method of mockery -- while childish and stupid -- had nothing to do with the reporter's disability.

He questioned whether a judge could be biased because of his country of origin -- which is an entirely valid concern, given how the media has twisted Trump's statements about Mexican people. His statements about the Central Park Five had nothing to do with race. Again, people from the left tend to see race first, and everything else second.

Having David Duke's endorsement is as inconsequential as Hillary naming Robert Byrd as one of her heroes. The fact that Trump is repeatedly asked to specifically denounce every known racist by name is an indication of the media's agenda -- not evidence of Trump's racism.

The fact is that you really WANT to believe Trump is a racist. Therefore, you will go out of your way and cherry-pick through every sentence he has ever uttered to fulfill your deep-seated desire. No one ever accused him of racism until he became president. Now, suddenly, after 70 years, Trump is widely believed by folks like yourself that he has always been a racist. Doesn't that seem a little fishy?

Right. Trump World is like "Alice Through the Looking Glass". Down is up and up is down. Small is big (like crowd sizes) and big is small. Truth is fake news and lies are alternate facts. So, believe and think as you wish. There will come a day when Trump World is like another children's tale, "The Emperor's New Clothes" and you will discover that your Emperor is naked. You are a true believer, so that will be a big disappointment.

There is no point in us engaging any further.

Topic FBI Qualifies Antifa Confrontations as Domestic Terrorist Violence
Posted 08 Sep 2017 08:00

I guess I'm confused. Are you opposed to free speech? Do you disagree with the First Amendment? Should we only allow speech and public gathering of those we agree with?

Let the white supremacists speak. Let the black supremacists speak. Let Antifa speak (so long as they don't assault people while doing so.) The more these people speak, the more they expose their ignorance, hatred, intolerance, and stupidity. The entire notion of "free speech" is intended to protect controversial speech. Popular speech doesn't need protection.

On that note, I'm glad to know that WellMadeMale is "thankful" for the thuggish, violent, and destructive tactics of Antifa. Now I know who and what he is and what he stands for. Without free speech, we would never know.

Principessa, as soon as you can provide a crumb of evidence to support your theory that abhorrent opinions have become normalized, I'll gladly join your crusade. As it stands, the Democratic Party continue to be the flag-bearers of racism -- and have been for over 150 years.

I will provide you with a whole loaf of bread, not a crumb. Trump's campaign and tenure in the Oval Office has opened the door to racism, sexism, xenophobia in his speeches, pronouncements, tweets, and at his rallies. He mocked a reporter with disabilities. He attacked a sitting judge based on his ethnicity. He bragged about sexually assaulting women. Even well before the campaign he displayed racism with public remarks about the Central Park Five in NYC and his effort to undermine President Obama based on his place of birth. He has encouraged racists and white supremacists with his rhetoric and has given them the moral equivalence to those marching against them in Charlottesville. David Duke thanked him for his support and told his followers that Trump has their back. Trump was asked to denounce Duke during the campaign and after this remark and refused to unequivocally do so. He won't disavow people like that because they are a significant part of his base. I could go on and on.

What he has done with what he calls being anti-PC is support the idea to turn the clock back to the 1950s or earlier, before the Civil Rights Movement, voting rights legislation, human rights legislation and women's equality. It is the dream of angry white people who now feel permission to publicly voice their odious opinions regarding anyone they perceive as "other" rather than hide such talk at home. I am not saying that everyone who voted for him is a racist anti-semite, but Charlottesville was a milestone after all that had happened before in the campaign and his tenure and revealed his views plainly for all to see and hear and unfortunately, many people who support him are just that and displayed it throughout his campaign. The GOP has been using race since Nixon to get people to vote against their own self-interest and it was then called the Southern Strategy. Read some political history rather than listening to Fox News and you will understand this.

I am not on a crusade. I am not an American. However, I am well-educated and thoughtful. I support free speech for even the most hateful opinions, but I also recognize bigotry and hate when I see it and call it out. You do not need a degree in political science to figure this out. It seems your definition of racism by the Dems is working for equality for all and undermining the privileges of white Americans. With respect, you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 07 Sep 2017 16:30

I read this comment in response to a column by Charles Blow in today's NYTimes. I thought it should be shared.

Without modification, a put-down originated by the late William F. Buckley Jr. could be applied to Trump: "His ignorance and amorality have never been exaggerated for the same reason one cannot exaggerate infinity." I'm not sure who Buckley was aiming at, but from beyond the grave he scores a direct verbal hit on The Donald.

Topic FBI Qualifies Antifa Confrontations as Domestic Terrorist Violence
Posted 07 Sep 2017 15:15

The people in Boston who actually had a permit to organize had no relation to white nationalists. Ironically enough, it was a "free speech" rally -- that attracted all of twenty people. About 30,000 people showed up to protest because they're too ignorant and ill-informed to know better (and because they enjoy virtue-signaling to their friends, and because they desperately want to feel as though they're "fighting against hate" or some other nonsense, and because they're looking to get laid.)

The Antifa in Berkeley were assaulting reporters, innocent bystanders, and anyone else who wasn't dressed like them. Even some of the leftists who attended their little rally to support them were assaulted.

I applaud the fact that Antifa is showing the entire country what the political left has become: violent, destructive, intolerant, divisive, afraid to engage in an actual debate, and willing to go to no end to silence dissent .

I agree if you substitute alt right and white nationalists for Antifa. Abhorrent opinions and ideas have become normalized since the last election campaign. It is no longer dog whistle politics because the racism, anti-semitism, xenophobia and more are now out in the open. The GOP has been playing this game since Nixon, but with the advent of Trump they have made a Mephistophelian bargain to gain power.

Topic Your 2020 Celebrity Ticket
Posted 07 Sep 2017 08:05

You got my vote!

George and Amal Clooney would be pretty awesome I think...

You're right. Who needs Alec Baldwin.

Topic If Trump can be President, can Kanye??
Posted 06 Sep 2017 19:39

Kanye and Kim in the White House would be the ultimate expression of celebrity driven culture. That said, it is a very bad idea. Assuming the US and the world survives Trump, I hope that nothing like this happens again, whatever the party affiliation of the celebrity.

@WMM Arnold couldn't run even if he wanted to because he was born in Austria.

Topic On being a moderate Democrat
Posted 06 Sep 2017 19:34

Is there a moderate Democrat?

Of course there are. Are there moderate Republicans? I ask the question because I agree with what Buz said about the party moving further and further to the right.

Topic Your 2020 Celebrity Ticket
Posted 06 Sep 2017 19:20

George Clooney and Alec Baldwin for the Dems

Topic Should the U.S.
Posted 05 Sep 2017 13:25

I agree it's a bad idea, and I don't think we've had a justified war since WWII is the only way to get rich kids to fight, and die, in war. Right now it's largely the poor that join the military, and 40% are minorities. Maybe our leaders would be more reluctant to put our troops in harm's way if it were their kids that were fighting.

If you look at the politicians who pushed for war in the Viet Nam era or more recently under Bush/Cheney, many of them sought deferments which were dubious at best. John Kerry served with distinction in Viet Nam and than testified before Congress against the war upon his return to the US. Trump himself was deferred because of bone spurs which do not seem to have impeded his golf game.

I agree with Verbal that mandatory conscription is a bad idea, I also think that the cost of war in the lives impacted or lost should be spread fairly in society. I don't know what plan could resolve this.

Topic Harvey 2017
Posted 02 Sep 2017 06:57

Apparently Trump's fellow countrymen are worth much less than Obama's birth certificate. In 2012 he offered $5 million for proof that Obama was born in the US. Compared to that, his 1 million dollar offer to the victims of Harvey looks like a joke.

At the risk of digressing from the topic, I have to ask (rhetorically) if Trump gave the $5 million to President Obama when he provided his long form birth certificate. Of course not. To put his money where his mouth was and he should have given the money to charity, a real one, not his foundation which seems to be a means of laundering money for him. I will believe this $1 million pledge when it is an actual donation. Trump has a history of not honouring such pledges.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 01 Sep 2017 11:38

Not entirely true. Trump is a terrible president, and frankly a terrible person. He definitely provokes a lot of the backlash that he receives, and truly deserves it. He does tend to skirt the line between what is ethically questionable and legally acceptable. However, I will agree that until a solid case is built for impeachment, and a threshold of political willpower is met to dump him out of office, impeachment talk is just talk. That said, I do believe in holding Trump accountable for what he says and does as president. The criticism he receives is justified. Unfortunately, the threat of impeachment at this moment is not (and may never be).

We have to wait for the results of Mueller's investigation and there will likely be several threads to pursue. One will be about collusion with the Russians during the campaign by Trump and his family and team. Another will be about his finances, particularly indebtedness to the Russians and others, as well as the true facts about his assets, liabilities, charitable giving and more information previously undisclosed by him. Evidence of self-dealing and ethical breaches (such as the lack of a true blind trust for his business) which may support impeachment charges if not criminal charges as well as more serious obstruction of justice evidence which would support both will also be forthcoming. Mueller is being very thorough and has assembled a team of lawyers who have experience in all of the areas I have listed. I would be more than surprised if none of these are proven to a level that cannot proceed to either or both criminal charges and impeachment.

We just have to be patient and allow the investigators to do their work.

Topic Harvey 2017
Posted 30 Aug 2017 17:03

@ seax

Thank you for taking the time to respond, and in such a reasonable way. I accept your apology for the "discussion over".

I learned a lesson too after I was drawn into what went on with dragonfly. Respect indeed is a two-way street.

We have reached detente. angel7

Topic Harvey 2017
Posted 30 Aug 2017 16:12

I would have sworn that the destruction of a major part of the State of Texas would be a topic we could discuss without it descending into a "bash Trump" or "we're all going to drown from global warming" rant like every other thread on the Think Tank. Boy was I ever mistaken.

I guess those three hours from 8pm EST to 11pm EST on November 8, 2016 scarred some of you folks even deeper than I had imagined.

It's like having your picture taken with a flash bulb. For a while, no matter what you look at, eyes open or eyes closed, all you can see is the after image of that flash bulb. With the flash bulb, the afterimage fades out over a few minutes. But you folks have been going on like this for 9 months. Hopefully you aren't scarred for life, because we have to do it all over again starting about a year from now. Actually some 2020 wannabe's are already visiting Iowa and New Hampshire.

You said somewhere in another thread that you had vowed to yourself to be more measured in your words after a forced week-long vacation. You dismissed me after I made a point with "discussion over", adele got "picky, picky, picky" when she made an argument about what you said and now you disingenuously admit to a mistake as you patronize those who disagree with you again. You said people have trouble understanding your sense of humour. Perhaps that is because it is not funny to them.

Is this the kinder, gentler version of you? That, of course, was a rhetorical question. I don't know why you have to be unpleasant, as you seem to be an intelligent man, capable of arguing a point without that. A little respect would go a long way.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 18:02

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was solely responsible for how she conducted herself in her term of office. Secretary of State Colin Powell was likewise responsible for his own actions. He cannot blame her. She cannot blame him. There are and were federal laws and regulations covering all aspects of how secure emails were to be handled at State. Some of those laws carry some rather severe penalties for those who are guilty of breaking them. "I didn't mean to. I didn't know. Colin did it too." should not be tendered as a valid defense by or for anyone who has risen to a Presidential Cabinet level post. The laws and regulations should either be enforced in all cases and for all people or they should be rescinded.

I think I've already made my feelings clear with respect to a similar situation.

End of discussion.


Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 17:44

When is the last time you were able to get away with something by pointing out that everyone else was doing it too?

My point was that the same standard should be applied to all. There was precedent for this not being a problem. You cannot apply rules, regulations, laws and standards of practice differently depending on whose ox is being gored, i.e. their political party being your own or the opposition, and certainly the FBI and Department of Justice are to be evenhanded in upholding the rule of law.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 16:49

That's not entirely true either. Comey ruled that she broke the law but did so unintentionally and opined that no prosecutor would file charges. He kinda glossed over the fact that many Federal statutes, including that one, don't give you a pass for lack of intent.

Colin Powell and others did the similar things with their computers and no one talked about charging them with anything. Comey has his own questionable judgement to deal with regarding the announcement of investigating Clinton and later announcing there were no grounds for charges all within the context of the election campaign. As I understand it, it is against FBI policy to make any such announcements until the election is over. There is no doubt that this took votes away from her.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 29 Aug 2017 15:31

missing e-mails, Benghazi, anything to do with the Clinton foundation, and just for wearing ugly pantsuits.

How about collusion with Russians to skew the election? How about not putting your interests in a blind trust and continuing to profit from decisions you make as president? How about breaches of ethics and conflicts of interest? How about being indebted in hundreds of millions of dollars to pals of Putin, which explains your soft spot for him? How about several instances of obstruction of justice to save your sorry ass from investigation of your wrongdoing? How about missing disclosure of tax returns? How about promoting your properties while in office? I could go on and on. Trump and his team/family will face evidence of wrongdoing as a result of the Mueller investigation that will likely result in articles of impeachment and possibly criminal charges.

You are entitled to your opinions, but not your own facts , unless you are like Kellyanne Conway and think that lies are just alternate facts. Other than in the fever dreams of right wing zealots, Hillary has not been charged with anything. She withstood eleven hours of interrogation on Benghazi unscathed. I would like to see Trump survive something like that and we may well have a chance to do so in the near future but I doubt he will emerge unscathed.

And, if you bring up her pantsuits, he should be jailed for his comb over.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 28 Aug 2017 16:31


4 pages out of 6 - of someone trying to convince others that she isn't stupid, nor a trump supporter and is being bullied. wow

my suggestion is this .... if you can't debate, express yourself adequately in your opinion, especially if someone presses you on WHY you have said opinion, it is probably in everyone's best interest to avoid the thread.

I just read 4 pages of utter ridiculous comments that pertained nothing to the actual OP thread and contributed zero thereto besides looking like a complete ass.

At least there was a few great posts about how disappointing and dooming #Potus45 is ... and continue to evolving into.

Even as a Canadian, I am disappointed in how the American President addressed the issue .... so terribly sad for everyone .... well, excluding those on the far right/alt right and trump supporters who are steadfast.



I hope this puts an end to it and this thread will go back to its original subject. Thanks, Van.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 28 Aug 2017 07:46

In fact i did say most of that after some of your initial posts, as did others. When you continued disregarding the suggestions, and posting stupid emoticons rather than actually responding to the counterpoints made by myself and others to your posts is when i made that comment. And explain what you used the NY Post as an example of?

She was comparing Lush to a great paper in New York, one that well informed people read, but got it wrong. It is The New York Times. The New York Post is a tabloid paper.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 27 Aug 2017 14:46

Bullying, spelling Nazis, and, hating someone who thinks different. Wow, way to show how wonderful left thinking is. I want to be part of your cult..(not)

Right. The cult of intelligent, literate people. It would be easier to ignore all of your mistakes if your thoughts were worthy of consideration.

Just to fulfill your expectations, I should tell you that the adverb is differently, not different.

Topic Potus45 - Will he be impeached?
Posted 27 Aug 2017 10:48

I don't see him being impeached, but I would not be surprised if he steps down before his term is up.

I think that the Mueller investigation will reveal a lot about Trump and his team, not just regarding collusion with Russia and his campaign but also financial details that he has refused to share until now. His indebtedness to Russian oligarchs who are pals of Putin will probably be one of the uncomfortable things revealed. There may well be a case made for obstruction of justice against him regarding his effort to squelch this investigation and possibly other matters like his drafting Donald Jr.'s account to his meeting with Russians during the campaign. They may well be building an ethics case based on his continuing to profit from his businesses while in office and lack of a proper arm's length distance with a blind trust. Having your children run the businesses is not a blind trust. He is blatantly self-dealing with promotion of his hotels and resorts including the one near the White House.

Trump is not the selfless type. He would not likely resign in the face of impeachment proceedings that have the votes to succeed as Nixon did to save the country the trauma of the process. The down side of him fighting would be having all of his misdeeds made public. Either way, I don't think he will last a full term. I have my doubts about his stability and would not be shocked if he did resign for purported health reasons as he becomes more delusional.

Whatever and whenever happens, it could not be a moment too soon.

Topic Trump's Response to Charlottesville Is Both Disappointing and Dooming
Posted 27 Aug 2017 07:46

Better then your's

Still haven't figured out how to use apostrophes. Oh well, that is the least of your problems.