Forum posts made by seeker4

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 13:26


Lol, I'm Dutch. My country was the first in the world to allow same sex couples to marry over16 years ago. Same sex marriage and gay marriage do not exist in my country btw. There's only one kind of marriage and that's open to all couples.

Oops. Forgot. Thought you were a Yank. So sorry. You are definitely one of the more progressive countries out there. That's how ours works, too. We just redefined marriage to include any gender combination.

Topic latest movie that you saw or ones you wish to see
Posted 17 Dec 2017 11:52



This one seems like a cross between Aliens and X-Files. Annihilation with Natalie Portman. I hope it's good.


The novels (the Southern Reach trilogy by Jeff VanderMeer) come with a good rep but I am already hearing concern from fans of the books that the movie may be taking too many liberties. I started reading Annihilation but didn't get very far, more a reflection of my mood at the time than the novel. Now that the movie is looming, the library's copies are getting hard to get and I'm not dropping money for a novel that I'm not sure I'll like so I have not gone back.

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 11:46


Even if, like right wingers claim, sexual orientation and gender are choices, they, like religion, can never be an argent to deprive people of their basic rights.

I agree but they don't and they do sometimes get the courts to rule on their side. Which is why, per my last post, we have made that protection explicit here in Canada. The only way for our right wing (which tends to be smaller and less conservative than yours anyhow) to get rid of those protections now is to amend the Bill of Rights again to remove them and, politically speaking, it is an easier sell to give rights than to take them away.

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 11:45


It's my understanding that laws apply to everyone, unless they're explicitly excluded. As far as I know, that's true for the Bill of rights too.

That's not necessarily how it works, though. Our Bill of Rights (both my province and federal) were amended to make protection for gender identity and gender expression explicit for specifically this reason (in fact, the federal law just went into force this year after some stalling by our idiot Senate). It eliminates one argument for denying them (that they weren't mentioned in the bill therefore weren't intended to be protected). We have not actually amended the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in our constitution due to the amount of effort required to do so but courts, including SCC, have consistently interpreted the charter the way you describe, thus leading to things like us being ahead of you on things like same-sex marriage. However, where laws are involved, it is generally to be explicit then hope for the courts to rule the way you want.

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 06:58


While I totally agree about racism, I don't think it's the same as judging someone on his choices and priorities. One cannot choose one's race or skin colour, but both political affiliation and religion are at least in part the result of the choices an individual makes, and those choices are often about fundamental social and moral issues. That does not mean it should influence their fundamental rights, but that it plays a role in how individuals value and treat each other is only logical and justifuable. It's not the same as prejudice.

Largely agree, but what do you do when people disagree on what is a "choice"? Trans people argue they are biology, not choice, but the right wing argues otherwise. Ditto homosexuals. I, personally, would treat homophobia and transphobia as being equal to racism because I think gender status and orientation are fundamental traits, not choices. However, someone from the right wing might argue they aren't because, to them, orientation and gender status are choices they made and aren't equivalent to skin colour.

Topic RUMPLATIONS: Honky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Posted 17 Dec 2017 06:27


I've a jaundiced theory that college Technical writing courses screw up almost as many otherwise good writers with the potential to become great as do creative writing courses.


*sips coffee*

Technical writing is more about learning a particular way and style, though. You can't be as creative in a technical report or white paper as you can in fiction and you have less wiggle room for variations in presentation. So I think there's a actually a point to a course on it. You need to know what it is expected in various types of report in order to do it right.

Agree on creative writing, though. I've never taken a formal course on it myself (my university English electives were all literature courses, not composition ones). I do hear that the workshop type programs, like Clarion (one that focusses on sf&f), are more helpful but those have a strong component of peer exchange and review rather than being just a teacher teaching.

*sips more coffee*

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 05:52



It's not always on the basis of skin color. Sami for instance have the same skin color as other Norwegians, Swedes and Finns. Same for Arabs and Persians and for Tutsis and Hutus as far as I know.

Yeah, while skin colour is often the most obvious characteristic used to define "race", it is not the sole definition. Though Hutus and Tutsis are more what patokl was referring to as "tribalism" than what we would usually think of as racism. It is still terrible and still the same problem at root, but nuanced in a different way.

A better example might be the prejudice between the Japanese and their mainland Asian neighbours like the Chinese and Koreans. While we in the West see them all as "Asian" or "East Asian" in race language, there are some serious issues there fostered by centuries of hostilities.

Though, again, maybe that's more tribalism and, again per patokl, racism is really just tribalism under a different name.

Topic RUMPLATIONS: Honky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Posted 17 Dec 2017 05:32

A coffee with BBB, Rump. And good morning all.

Proofing this morning but not for Lush. Not even fiction. It's a final paper for one of my son's classes. Better written than most of what crossed my desk when I was a mod here but dry as dust (it's for a technical report writing course).

Topic do you believe in God?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 05:29

Yeah, he was more of a pantheist than a believer in a classic personal deity, though, as you can tell from that quote. Which kind of where I fall right now, too.

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 05:27

Prejudice is pre-judging anything or anyone usually base on personal conviction.


They are related, though. Racism, at least at the individual level, is a "narrower term" (as we said in my indexing class in library school) of prejudice with skin colour as the basis for the conviction. I would also suggest that while we all pre-judge people at times, prejudice is generally a bad thing in any area (e.g. making assumptions about someone based on their faith, political affiliation, etc. is no better than doing it based on race) and being mindful of when we are doing so goes a long way towards blunting the systemic impact of these prejudices.

Topic Would you share your wife?
Posted 17 Dec 2017 05:22

As I have commented before, depends on who, when, where, what ... I wouldn't say an absolute no, but I would be fairly picky about it. Doubt she'd go for it, though.

Topic Which improvements or features would you like to see added?
Posted 16 Dec 2017 14:02

Believe me, I fully understand the potential difficulty of modifying already heavily modified code. I haven't had any formal instruction in any coding language since BASIC on the TRS-80. LOL I'm self taught, and that often results in less than conventional ways to make things work, followed by a hellish nightmare when you want to tweak something.



I learned BASIC on a C-64 back in the mid-eighties (we got our family computer in 1983 when I was in high school) and later took a couple fairly basic computer courses in university. However, I didn't pursue computers as a career officially (by formal training, I am a librarian but I manage IT for a mid-sized corporation). I do some Javascript these days but it's pretty much script kiddie stuff. I have no illusions about being a programmer. Once my son gets his Bachelor's in computer science, I'll just hire him when I need real code written laughing6 (boss walks in, points out company nepotism policyangry7).

Topic Which improvements or features would you like to see added?
Posted 16 Dec 2017 13:57

I think it would be kind of nice to have some little ribbon or tag at the top of any story denoting that it's made it to either Famous or Legendary status, perhaps up near the title or by the author's name. Sort of like the RR or EP designation, but based on # of views and overall popularity rather than a random choice by a mod or the editors.

I like that. I would actually rather have that than the badge on my profile, since I'm not really a badge chaser, but why not both since you get both a badge and a flag on the story for RRs? I'm down with this one.

True story: I once got a famous story badge and had to hunt through my stories to figure out which one triggered it. The message on my timeline didn't say and I don't really watch my views closely enough to know which ones are getting close.Embarassed

Topic RUMPLATIONS: Honky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Posted 16 Dec 2017 13:53

A beer please.

Would you believe I actually timelined out all the April stories alongside Wedding Interrupted to try to make sure everything lined up when I insert my new Christmas story (hopefully being posted tomorrow or Monday) about April and Ross? I did find a problem, too. In April's Secret I mention Ross doing manual research because pre-web. That puts it to no later than the nineties. Whereas Wedding Interrupted clearly takes place in this decade, given the use of texting and smartphones throughout it. So April and Ross would be a bit old to be close friends of Curt and Julia as is implied by Ross being Curt's best man. A mild oops, though, given that I didn't actually plan any of this out.

Solution would be write Ross and April out of Wedding Night Blues. I'd just need to change the names since their backstory doesn't actually come up so it could really be anyone. I like the touch of having them cameo, since it implies eventual success of their relationship but I think that would be easier than trying to update April's Secret and the other April stories to the 21st century.

Topic Use My Last Word First - in a 5 word sentence..
Posted 16 Dec 2017 12:34

Wet and wild we are.

Topic This or That
Posted 16 Dec 2017 12:32

No sex. Prefer it with someone I know (not necessarily a committed partner, but certainly a friend or acquaintance).

Shovel or snow blower?

Topic Just noticed ANOTHER new story category... Mind Control
Posted 16 Dec 2017 12:28

I like the ideas about that new badge, but I've been thinking about the actual topic of this thread, mind control, too.

A controlled mind isn't free to make its own decisions. Any consent, given as a result of mind control, is in fact coerced, because consent is only really consent, when given voluntarily. Sex with anyone whose mind is controlled is no more consensual than sex with an unconscious or an intoxicated person. I my humble opinion, it amounts to rape, and rape does not belong on lush.

I have to throw down with patokl on this point. The standard needs to be that there is explicit consent to being mind controlled and even a limit to what the controller can make the controllee do. Just as in BDSM, where there must be explicit consent to being tied up and whipped and a safe word that immediately withdraws that consent. Not that I'm planning to write a mind control story myself, but I think anything less creates a double standard where you can use Mind Control as a "get out of consent free" card.

Topic Which improvements or features would you like to see added?
Posted 16 Dec 2017 12:23

Because I like to run a track of my statistics quarterly. Doing so manually is an hour long process.

The thread is for suggestions. It's a suggestion.

Generating a CSV isn't much different than generating the page that displays the statistics in the first place. If the download button is placed on the same page as the statistics, it could be populated at the same time as the page is generated, not even requiring an additional query.



Oh, I'm not saying you shouldn't make the suggestion. Just surprised at someone going to this amount of work here. I barely even look at anything other than comments and views and that's just when I'm seeing how a new story is faring.

As for how easy it is, I could do it without batting a eyelash in my work IT environment or the board I admin but I know they've customized the heck out of this place and sometimes stuff that seems like it should be easy, isn't.

Topic Which improvements or features would you like to see added?
Posted 16 Dec 2017 10:01


For that matter, it would be nice if we could download a delimited file suitable for importing into a spreadsheet program that had all our statistics on it as they stood at the time of download.

Good God, why? This is a fun amateur writing site. How many would actually need this ability? The only reason I can see for doing it is to analyze your trends and means and so on and I certainly wouldn't bother.

I would be a nice to have for some but I suspect there are better uses of Nic's money and Gav's time. Fixing the still broken mobile site (I still regularly get fake security warnings on it) would be much higher, IMHO.

Topic What's your favorite Christmas song?
Posted 16 Dec 2017 06:05

Snoopy's Christmas by The Royal Guardsmen (who are actually from my same podunk town)
https://youtu.be/Jlf---13Q0g

And Holly Jolly Christmas by Burl Ives
https://youtu.be/DtVxFi9C0RA

Idk why, but I can never post videos here properly.

Are you using the embed code, which Lush's Youtube embedder requires? That's the one I usually mess up on because the other board I'm on regularly just uses the share address.

Topic What is your definition of racism?
Posted 15 Dec 2017 18:50

I'd say there is individual and systemic racism.

Individual racism is when a person makes judgments and decisions about other people based purely on racial grounds. Saying "There goes the neighbourhood" when a Black family move in or looking at two job candidates and choosing the one that's the "right" colour even if the other is equally or more qualified.

Systemic racism is when society's laws and other structures are biased towards or against a particular race. It's a bit trickier to recognize and deal with because sometimes the thing that seems obviously racist is actually a symptom of a deeper bias in something else. It driven by the individual racism of those making and executing the laws and designing the structures but needs to be dealt with at a higher level because that built-in bias can linger even as individual attitudes change.

Topic RUMPLATIONS: Honky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Posted 15 Dec 2017 18:44

Greetings Mr Rumple! Whaddaya got to ease my mind off the combination of insane Xmas shoppers and treacherous road conditions?

A gorilla killah would probably do the trick. Or, you know, just drink lots of tequila straight from the bottle.Pint Drunk

Topic Net Neutrality and Porn
Posted 15 Dec 2017 16:11

Once again, the obvious solution is to embrace the leaf (maple, not fig) and move to Canada. Our regulator enforces net neutrality fairly vigorously now and can be overruled by Cabinet even if they go nuts and try to back away from it. And I really can't see the current government letting it happen.

Topic Is it normal for a story to "get away" from the writer's planned outline, and sort of write itself?
Posted 15 Dec 2017 13:24

Just thought of this thread. Started a story that I thought I knew exactly where it was going. I like what I've written so far but I'm not sure I still want to go the same way with it. However, I also don't know where else to go with it. As it stands, it's just two people meet at a conference and fuck each other's brains out, which isn't much of a story in my books. There was going to be a plot twist after the initial bout of fucking but the twist I originally intended doesn't feel right now so I'm kind of left hanging. So, yeah, it's getting away from the planned outline and I'm not sure where it wants to go now. Maybe it will end up back at my original plot but right now, it's kind of hanging there.

Topic RUMPLATIONS: Honky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Posted 15 Dec 2017 13:19

Well, this cyber bar is one of the ... um ... best? If you ignore certain odd features like the taste of the coffee and the tarantula next to the nuts.

Anyhow, you're in the right place. Rump, give the man a drink on my tab. It's for being from such a damn cool place (spent a few days in Denver in 2016 and loved it). And refill my whiskey while you're at it.

Topic Guilty or Innocent.
Posted 15 Dec 2017 13:15

What qualifies as totally inappropriate? If we're talking co-worker level inappropriate, then yes. If we are talking illegal, then no.

You have had a fling while on a business trip.

Topic writing a story with popular themes and literature.
Posted 15 Dec 2017 13:05


Harryhausen-ish stop-motion dinosaurs will show up in chapter 4. :)

hello1

I'm a huge fan of Harryhausen and his mentor Willis O'Brien, who did the silent version of Conan Doyle's The Lost World (the novel is a must read if you're doing steampunk dinos, BTW, and if you can find the movie, watch it) and the original King Kong. glasses8

Topic What's your favorite Christmas song?
Posted 15 Dec 2017 13:04

Fairytale of New York (the official Christmas song of NYC, on the jukebox of every Irish bar in town)

Honorable mentions: Carol of the Bells, Sleigh Ride, O Come All Ye Faithful (heh), Baby It's Cold Outside



All good songs. Love Fairytale and I'm not even a New Yorker. Haven't even been to New York in nearly 30 years (visited in 1991). Given what a dark song it is (by Christmas song standards), it is amazingly popular with abundant cover versions. Gianni Luminati and Sarah Blackwood from Canadian pop-rock band Walk Off the Earth did a cover a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7gzJFwB0JzE

Topic RUMPLATIONS: Honky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Posted 15 Dec 2017 11:12

BTW, you think your new kitten will climb the newly decorated tree?

We had a kitten do that back in '89. It was amusing, but the kitty climbing the curtains was less so.

Keep the whiskey coming. I found a box of ... um ... well ... i think they are ornaments, on the shelf by where the tree was. Perhaps the ladies would like to hang these ones.dontknow

Topic latest movie that you saw or ones you wish to see
Posted 15 Dec 2017 11:06




Not to ruin it for you, but... Darth Vader is like Skywalkers father

Dear God, that ceased to be a spoiler when I was in high school.angry7

Sigh, I actually remember when I first heard that revelation. Yes, I knew it before I saw the movie. We didn't fuss about spoilers as much in those days, though.

Yes, I'm that old. Deal with it.