Forum posts made by she

Topic Sexy Water Pictures...
Posted 27 Oct 2010 10:56

http://www.lushstories.com/forum/upload/images/402-6a00d8341bfa3f53ef00e54f45d01b8833-640wi.jpg

Topic The women in lingerie thread
Posted 27 Oct 2010 10:53

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Topic yummy male torso pics
Posted 27 Oct 2010 10:47

http://www.lushstories.com/forum/upload/images/465-b66bb106d41e4f0a4ab1c4fxy8.jpg

Topic yummy male torso pics
Posted 27 Oct 2010 10:45

hello1 hello1 Tubby!!hello1 hello1

love10 love10

clapping haha, you noticed well my friend Joe is now 62 but he was so hot675-lick back in days wasn't he!?

He was sex simbol and actor back in 70ies and he was hanging out with Andy Warhol!! Isn't that enough, lol.
Thank you Tubby for noticingicon_biggrin

Topic Keep them related!
Posted 26 Oct 2010 23:47

BrIAN Keith (Uncle Bill)

Ian Curtis (Joy Division)

Topic Things you shouldn't do but do anyway....
Posted 26 Oct 2010 23:39

Lust for CuriousButterfly, She, and...

I am on second place??! angry7



kekekegay teasing you babes..
your body have the same impact on me (if and only if that is you on your avatar!!, lol)

Topic Forum Game: Sexual Choices
Posted 26 Oct 2010 23:35

blindfold


blindfolded in the house or outside

Topic Forum Game: Twin Word Link
Posted 26 Oct 2010 23:27

tours experienced

Topic Word association game
Posted 26 Oct 2010 23:25

calmness

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 26 Oct 2010 23:13


There has been a lot of thought recently given to the idea that those traits that lead to someone becoming an addict are genetic. That they're passed on from parent to child. My father was an alcoholic - I have certain addictive traits, as do all his male children. You haven't addressed other kinds of addiction - what about the gambling addiction that causes people to lose their homes, and all their personal property? What about alcoholism? What about addictions to food, exhibitionism, sex, or danger? These addictions can all have negative effects on someone's life, health, or family. Should they be treated the same as drug addicts? And if addiction truly is a genetic trait, why would you separate it from any other mental illness? If that's the case, an addict doesn't "choose" to be an addict, he is one from birth. His addiction is there, hiding. It's just waiting for the right moment to make itself known.

If you're going to revoke the civil rights of all the drug addicts, then you had better revoke the civil rights of a lot of other classes of people as well.

Exactly, I do believe in C. Darwin and theory of evolution, I do believe that everything we do to our mind or body does effect us/changes us, for some changes takes years but yes they do effect our DNA and consequently because of that addiction is genetic. That does not mean that child of a addict will become addict but it mean that child has more predisposition to become one.
As I said before my family does alcohol a lot and I had periods in my life that I was drinking heavily but you always reach that point where you can choose to continue or quit and that is why I still think that being a addict is a state of choice and nothing else and cannot be compered with mental ilness not in this context anyway.

I didn't mention other addiction because of two reasons. First one is that there is a difference between chemical addiction and non-chemical addiction, the other reason is because I don't know much about non-chemical addictions, I know that addicts get abstinence crisis if they don't get their 'drug' in specific time such as sex, food, gamble.. I know that when they get one the chemical reaction in their brain releases hormone of happines, endorphin, but that is pritty much I know about those non-chemical addictions.

They should be cured the same way but you have to admit that chemical and non-chemical addictions are not the same addictions. Drugs and alcohol has completely different impact to our bodies and mind then gambeling or sex and food, they are addictions but somehow I doubt that non-chemical ones can fucked up people's judgment as much as chemical addictions can. But then again I don't know much about those addictions and could be easily be wrong.

..and I still think that drug addicts and alcoholics should not vote, drive and reproduce

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 26 Oct 2010 22:44

I use both sarcasm and jokes a lot- and I often use them together. They're almost never personal, and in your case, She, I can tell you that they never are. Points are argued forcefully here, and opinions are sometimes mocked, but you personally are not. I did have a feeling that a language barrier might be contributing to the misunderstanding, and I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt somehow.


Oh no LadyX, it takes much more to hurt my feelings. Maybe I should have explained myself or at least updated my bio on my profile page..
When someone say or do something that I do not appreciate it I simply say it. We all do and say things that are not always under contrtrol of our mind that is why I like to mention it to the person that I am interacting with and I expect that people do the same thing to me when I go over their line..You know only this part of me that I show here at Lush so it was my mistake, I should explain myself before posting complain.


EDIT: This was not my personal march against addicts and I certanly do not judge them or their choices, they are who they are and I can accept them or not live around them. What I do judge is when people are making excuses for addicts or addicts them selfs, such as: "..my life sucks, it is my parents fault, I am not happy, I dont have future, I dont have enough money, I have too much money..."
Accept, live or change but please do not lament about it, they are who they are and it is all in choices and how will they make a personal difference in another day.
No one can escape from consequences of our choices.

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 26 Oct 2010 05:18

MNP when I was a teen and did something wrong my parents grounded me, they took my phone away... basically they cut off my freedom from one point of wiev, right, so when people choose to become addicts (and yes it is a choice) they should be grounded as well, they shouldn't have the same rights as the rest of the population have, meaning that their civil right for voting, driving and reproducing should be taken away until they become clean again.

And people with mental illness are most definitely are not the same as addicts! Mentally ill people did not choose to become mentally ill.
As I said before help is offered to addicts, they are not left in the corner to live and die there, but they need to make a first small step.

"LOL Relax She, it isn't personal at all." That is your respond?
I was relaxed, couldn't sleep though but in my bed having fun here at Thank.. but let me tell you what we can do, we can pretend that I was tired because it was 3 am, we can say that English as my third language sucks and I couldn't understand you well, we can say as well that I cannot see the difference between the sarcasam and when people are beeing mocking (..however you did it twice, first post on this page and one before last one. The first one I did ignore because we all do make mistakes and we all get overemotional sometimes but I cannot ignore it twice in the same nigh.)
So if you were trying to be sarcastic you should scroll up and see mrplow's post that is pure beautiful not personal sarcasam and I could choose to responde to it or not (it is adressed to pepople who are for sterilization) but I choose not to because I am not familiar with his posts and I really didn't know if he is up for discusion or was he just making a statement..

or we can get infront of the mirror and call for Master of sarcasam himself tree times, maybe He can explain to us a difference between mocking at someone or just beeing sarcastics. And BTW MrNudiePants that was really good and cute joke, hopefuly he will laugh as well.


toast






Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 25 Oct 2010 15:51

To say that no addict can ever recover, and therefore be redeemed, is writing people off, and is judgmental. You're doing some serious logic-twisting to claim otherwise.

Serious logic-twisting?
I did not say that no addicts can recover, I asked you how many do you know them and writting people off is if you do not care for them if you despise them and no it is not judgemental if I have oppinion that they are not capable of being a parents.




By the way, do you stop at drugs and alcohol? What about sex addiction, or gambling addictions? What about becoming addicting to fishing, or shopping? Are they all unredeemable and judged as unable to ever be worthy of parenthood? All take precious attention away from the responsibilities of parenting. We all have our shortcomings, so how perfect do we need to be, in your wisdom, to qualify to be parents?

If you were able to be ruler of your own country, I think you'd have a birth-rate problem pretty quickly.


Carefully there you are kicking below the belt, I did not even once called you out personaly.

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 25 Oct 2010 14:50


It's not one or the other. First of all, your leading example is probably a recreational drug user, not an addict at all. But lots of people have a little to get through their day, then a little more when they get home, then a little more later that night. And the amounts gradually climb as their dependency increases, and before too long, they can't really resist having some. But all the while, they're probably still going out on dates, attending their kids' birthday parties, working their jobs, etc. That's when addiction starts, and that's what addiction looks like for millions of people, not just those in the final throes of heroin addiction, balled up in the fetal position in a club bathroom.

Exactly.. before too long they can't really resist having some more. So how long is that not too long? A year, two, three? And then what, child is 1-2 years old and then what? Is that parentship? Have those children been provided with security, love, guidenes for future or..? What? I don't get it. Addiction is disease and if it is not cured it is going to get worse and in the mean time what will be happening with those children?
They cannot help themselfs something has pover over them and that is drug/alcohol addicition and no metter how you called recreational or fetal position it is disease and needs to be cured and addicts should not have children because when drugs is possesing them they think only on one thing and that is selfishnes when they have a baby at home waiting to get attention from parents. When something has pover over you that means you are no longer in controle no metter how strong you wish to be.



Again, if it's temporary that's one thing. But if it's permanent:

1) you're arguably taking advantage of somebody in a compromised position to offer them a paltry sum for permanent sterility. I'm undecided on it for now, but I'd feel way better if it was temporary.

2) you're making a determination that addicts can never recover and be fitting parents, which would be criminally short-sighted and a major tragedy.

There seems to be this idea that all addicts are the same, but because all addicts are people, they're all different. So which ones would you say are unworthy? I agree that some are, but to make policy you have to draw the line somewhere. I think this is not a subject where lines should be drawn at all. It's not a policy issue nor should it be.


But addicts are all the same. They are all the same by one single characteristic, they all have one the same thing on their mind and they cannot helpthemselfs. So yes they are all the same, something has pover over them and that sure is no love.

How many addicts do you know that they did recover and changed their life? And how long it took them to clean themselfs? And what was happening with children in that period of time when parents were not there? or should we take a risk and jeopardize thousents of children for ten newly clean addicts who wants children of their one. You know what, live with concecuences of your choices and get addoption.

There's a lot of things in life that I think are basically hopeless, but I'd hate to have to accept that we've reached a place where we just write people off for mistakes, past and present. There are a lot worse things in life than drug dependency- I'd hate to think of the judgments that might rain down if others knew some things that friends of mine and I have done in life. Yet, I'm pretty sure I'm both functional and redeemable.


No body is writting people off, help is offered, but to prevent some horeble events in the future yes, they should get sterelized even if "we" can save only 1 child misery.
..no body is judging, but to give a birth to a child is very responsible decision to make and that is all about, I know that I am not right person to be a parent but if I will ever changed my mind I will try to adopt one.





Topic Word association game
Posted 25 Oct 2010 12:38

war


greed

Topic Word association game
Posted 25 Oct 2010 12:37

screamo

Is this English word scream? If so I will go with


Passion


if not can please somebody enlighten me geek yep screamo is a type of music :)


hahah thanks! I just saw it and I do show my age with the question don't I?f-hihi

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 25 Oct 2010 12:29

Ok, lets reverse a little..




I really don't agree with this statement. It's a serious generalisation. Sure there are addicts who are like that, but I think a lot of them aren't completely selfish people who only act for themselves.

Are we talking about addicts who are starting to get high when they wake up or are we talking about addicts who are consuming substances on weekends, when the party is right, in the afternoon with some good music on..? It is a major difference and I would like to know what are we talking about because I had definitely on my mind the first group and could be wrong as well.




They're still real people with real lives going on. The junkie that hangs out under the bridge, half-conscious, is a vivid stereotype, but far from the norm. Most still function, they still live life, although with extra problems. Plus, they are somebody's child, brother, mother, best friend, and many if not most still care about those people and other things in their lives, just as anybody would. Having a drug or alcohol dependency doesn't negate feelings. Of course there is a problem with drug addicts reproducing, but to reduce them all to being selfish beings that don't give a fuck about anything else, and therefore no longer worthy of consideration as fellow citizens, smacks of judgement, and certainly not any real understanding.


Are we talking about that addicts are human beings with every civil right and with every opportunity for second, third, fifthied chance to change their life like the rest of the human population or are we talking about that addicts should get sterilized because they are consequently not capable to raise a children?
Major diferences as well, because to reise a child is a job that needs 100% of a person 24/7 and not just when momy or dady are not doing drugs.

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 25 Oct 2010 09:21


Because addicts wouldn't do it if money is not involved, because they do not care for anything, they do not give shit about anything, they just want to get high and their first thought when they wake up is dope. They are very iresponsible and selfish people and you cannot expect fro them that they will go to the clinic and got for themselfs birth control solution, they don't give fuck about anything if it is not related to drugs or alcohol.

Drug addicts aren't zombie robots, She.

They're still real people with real lives going on. The junkie that hangs out under the bridge, half-conscious, is a vivid stereotype, but far from the norm. Most still function, they still live life, although with extra problems. Plus, they are somebody's child, brother, mother, best friend, and many if not most still care about those people and other things in their lives, just as anybody would. Having a drug or alcohol dependency doesn't negate feelings. Of course there is a problem with drug addicts reproducing, but to reduce them all to being selfish beings that don't give a fuck about anything else, and therefore no longer worthy of consideration as fellow citizens, smacks of judgement, and certainly not any real understanding.

At first glance I don't oppose the offer of money for sterilization, especially if its temporary, but I have to say I agree with some of the comments offered above. I hope many of you never have a loved one go through an addiction, or worse, multiple addictions- I fear that you might actually practice the lack of compassion that you preach. I agree that people eventually come to a place where they have to help themselves, but it's far easier to just call them lazy and selfish from the start, hiding their judgements behind a 'tough love' bullshit approach. All _______ are ________.

If only everyone could meet the lofty standards that many of the members here hold for them. The world would be a much more orderly place, wouldn't it?



I don't know for you but I do live by my principles, by every single one of them and in my lil world is no room for double standards as well,so if I can do/say something the other person have the same right as well and if I say that quitting off addiction is a brave thing to do I don't preach I say it because it needs guts to do it and change your life all over again, rarely few of them are capable of doing it.

And yes, addicts are zombies, they are emotional zombies who cares nothing but themselfs and drugs or alcohol. And yes, I had friends using them and like I said some of them are dead (overdose) and some of them are keep saying the same thing for years now and 70% of my adoult extended family are alcoholics. I didn't google this subyect, it is my experiance. I lost too many friends because of addictions and again none of them was/is capable of reising a child.
And yes World would be much more orderly place to live in.

Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 25 Oct 2010 08:31

Part of what makes America great is that we DON'T sacrifice the weak just because they can't keep up.

Yes, I'm all for individual choice, and taking responsibility for your actions, but I'm also for protecting the weak when they need protection the most.

Exactly what you said, except that the weak ones are children, it is alway children. Those smal people cannot stend up for themselfs, so they need adoults to do it for them.


..why would we only take the one that's all or nothing?


Because addicts wouldn't do it if money is not involved, because they do not care for anything, they do not give shit about anything, they just want to get high and their first thought when they wake up is dope. They are very iresponsible and selfish people and you cannot expect fro them that they will go to the clinic and got for themselfs birth control solution, they don't give fuck about anything if it is not related to drugs or alcohol.

Topic Forum Game: Twin Word Link
Posted 25 Oct 2010 08:00

account available

Topic Word association game
Posted 25 Oct 2010 07:55

peace

Topic Keep them related!
Posted 25 Oct 2010 07:52


James Dean
love10 675-lick love10



Dean Martin


Topic Sterilisation for Drug Addicts
Posted 25 Oct 2010 02:24

No one is without a sin WMM, and certanly no one will throw a stone first, however we all make our one life and live with consequences of our choices and that all that is and that is all that matters.

Every single person has their one demons and every single family have their one tragedies but how we survie does matter, how we deal with it does metter. You managed to get out of it, it was your brave choices but for most addicts is simlper to get high daily. I've seen it.. some of them died, some of my former friends have children and grandparents are rasing those and some of my former friends are still repeating the same fucking story over 10 years, "..just this once B. and I am done with it.." so, yes I am saying no drugaddicts or alcoholic should raise children.

Just to be clear, I am not some overemothional mother and I will never give a birth to a child. That was my decision in my very early 20ies and reasons become even stronger with years.


Ladies rxtales and Dancing_Doll what I will say now it might sounds brutal but I do not know how to express myself diferenty.. my appologies



Of course, you are all the same people who will rant about protecting children from abuse. The addicts are usually those same children... just the grown up versions... But I guess once they hit 16, nobody gives a fuck about them anymore anyway, right?

That is the reason why they should get sterilized at first place.


sorry Chef that I am using one of "your posters" but really I love this one
http://www.lushstories.com/forum/upload/images/474-977-6523_540.jpg

Topic Sensuality
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:34


http://www.lushstories.com/forum/upload/images/125-heart.jpg



I faded for moment when I saw this, so deliciously sexy!

Topic Lush Matching Photo Game:
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:30

http://www.lushstories.com/forum/upload/images/841-candelabra.jpg



Please another Joe Dallesandro's photo (preferably naked onehello1 )

Topic Sexy Water Pictures...
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:14

http://www.lushstories.com/forum/upload/images/455-Sexy-ass-03_jpg.jpg

Topic Forum Game: Sexual Choices
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:11

on top


in the mornings you prefer quickie or longer sex?

Topic Post a Pic for the user above you........
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:06

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Topic Forum Game: Sexy Chain
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:04

yen

Topic Forum Game: Twin Word Link
Posted 24 Oct 2010 00:01

televised censorship