I love Lush, and I read some amazing stories, easy on the eye. Easy to read. With amazing erotic style of writing. Then I read some other stories, which I would brand more as a porn flick scenarios.
That made me wonder - - -
What is an erotic story for you?
What is a porn story for you?
In my eyes there is a huge difference - - - Putting it simply - - - Erotic story excites a person with a style of writing itself. I see it in the same way as when it comes to romantic poetry. Romantic means not using the most common words to describe feelings of affection. One to be avoided at all costs is the word “love” - - When used, the poem is not romantic, is mushy and simplified.
Porno “script” is for me - - 50 shades of grey, and similar works of written works of so called art. Where not much is left to the imagination of the person. The style and the words used are as simplified as possible. It loses all appeal to read.
Of course, I understand, that it depends on the person, what for whom is an Erotic story, and personal taste about the kind of stories they like to read. . . .
In any case - - Both types demand time, attention and effort to write. That being said, to all the writers, my deepest respect, as we all put an effort in our stories. Some have parts of our souls, and hearts. No matter in what style they are written.
Any opinion will be greatly appreciated. Pictures are welcome too.
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What for you is an EROTIC story and PORN story
Big-haired Bitch/Personality Hire
My sentiments are the same as yours. Anyone can piece together a few words to get the point across: Two or more people fuck and cum. Maybe more than once.
But it takes a true artist, in my opinion, to paint a journey with just words. When I read stories like this, I don't picture a porn scene complete with fake moans and tits and surgically enhanced cocks. I picture a true scene without even trying. The scene just floats in my imagination before I even realize it because the writing is that vivid and captivating.
I have no pictures to share because A) There are threads for that and B) The pictures are created by the words...or at least they should be.
But it takes a true artist, in my opinion, to paint a journey with just words. When I read stories like this, I don't picture a porn scene complete with fake moans and tits and surgically enhanced cocks. I picture a true scene without even trying. The scene just floats in my imagination before I even realize it because the writing is that vivid and captivating.
I have no pictures to share because A) There are threads for that and B) The pictures are created by the words...or at least they should be.
"What is the quality of your intent?" - Thurgood Marshall
50 Shades is just badly written. Porn? No. I think the sex scenes were good, actually - it was everything else that created a problem like her immaturity and excessive use of 'holy shit!' 
. . in the sex scenes you explore everything about how she feels - anxiety, anticipation, need, confusion, desire...That's not in porn. If you manage to get to book 3 there's much less sex - and there's a lot of relationship stuff, that's also not porn.
But to me the difference lies in the emotional content, settings, scenery (as you mentioned - a use of language) even in short quickies you can have emotional tension and a well written scene. Hearts race and skin sweats.
Porno on paper is lewd, more focused on just the sex, and often crosses the line with language and roughness. Often emotions don't matter, and the language is crude (and I don't mean dialogue - I mean the author's use of words is cut and dry . . . lean and mean)
It's like watching late-night tv porn VS heading to youporn. One has a tone, a setting, a background, even a story line, and the sex. The other just has the sex and nothing much else. The why, the how - doesn't matter.
Though - I read and watch in all. In fact, as far as erotica vs porn goes - I read both, but prefer to watch porn. I find the mass produced soft-porn and even mild x-rated porn with cheesy acting and such to be wretched, all the way down to the fake sex sounds. It's atrocious. There's no such thing as a tastefully, realistic, well produced erotica film with explicit sex scenes that doesn't have the horrid acting and god awful sounds.
So in my view - written erotica has no true visual equivalent. There's close - but not quite.
. . in the sex scenes you explore everything about how she feels - anxiety, anticipation, need, confusion, desire...That's not in porn. If you manage to get to book 3 there's much less sex - and there's a lot of relationship stuff, that's also not porn. But to me the difference lies in the emotional content, settings, scenery (as you mentioned - a use of language) even in short quickies you can have emotional tension and a well written scene. Hearts race and skin sweats.
Porno on paper is lewd, more focused on just the sex, and often crosses the line with language and roughness. Often emotions don't matter, and the language is crude (and I don't mean dialogue - I mean the author's use of words is cut and dry . . . lean and mean)
It's like watching late-night tv porn VS heading to youporn. One has a tone, a setting, a background, even a story line, and the sex. The other just has the sex and nothing much else. The why, the how - doesn't matter.
Though - I read and watch in all. In fact, as far as erotica vs porn goes - I read both, but prefer to watch porn. I find the mass produced soft-porn and even mild x-rated porn with cheesy acting and such to be wretched, all the way down to the fake sex sounds. It's atrocious. There's no such thing as a tastefully, realistic, well produced erotica film with explicit sex scenes that doesn't have the horrid acting and god awful sounds.
So in my view - written erotica has no true visual equivalent. There's close - but not quite.
Orgasm Aficionado
To me, this is a judgement thing - "porn" is when someone is looking down on it; "Erotica" is when someone is looking up on it. A nudey girl on the cover of a lads mag is porn; the same picture hanging in an art gallery is erotic. Apparently, the first is exploitational, the second is aspirational.
The same story can be different things to different people. Trying to write a story which does both at the same time is interesting.
The same story can be different things to different people. Trying to write a story which does both at the same time is interesting.
Head Nurse
Those stories that utilize devices such as excessive ellipses, incorrect capitalization, and listing of characteristics are as tired as the roots on a low end porn actress.
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To me, this is a judgement thing - "porn" is when someone is looking down on it; "Erotica" is when someone is looking up on it. A nudey girl on the cover of a lads mag is porn; the same picture hanging in an art gallery is erotic. Apparently, the first is exploitational, the second is aspirational.
The same story can be different things to different people. Trying to write a story which does both at the same time is interesting.
Here I agree - - I do not mean anything demeaning abut the porn. It has certain X factor in its own right. - - I am just talking about the difference, not demeaning anything here.
Good porn with certain story, taste - - certain setting is just as nice as good written erotic story - - -
In the end, it always comes down to persons taste, and preferences
Active Ink Slinger
She has big sexy boobies. He has a big willy. They make a sex. It is good. The End
Ok that's the porn in the story, the next step is to add the erotica.
Ok that's the porn in the story, the next step is to add the erotica.
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The Right Rev of Lush
I've just finished, The General's Mistress' by Jo Graham. It is one of the most erotic mainstream (historical fiction) novels I've come across, so to speak, and among the best written stories I've read in some time. While the sex is hot, the story is about the protag's coming to terms with her own sexual identity during the Napoleonic Era. It's well-done and very erotic, but not porn. Highly recommended, especially to would be published authors of erotic, mainstream fiction.
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Devil's Advocate
I think erotica is where you want to keep reading after you've come.
My latest story is a racy little piece about what happens when someone cute from work invites you over to watch Netflix and Chill.
The Right Rev of Lush
Poor, Seeker...probably went damn near crosseyed plowing through Ulysses looking for the 'dirty part' before coming (so to speak) across 'Molly's Soliloquie' at the end of the book...me, too.
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Largely, I'm with you. However, when I was a lad and porn was not welcome in the house, the dirty bits in mainstream novels sufficed for the job.
You know - there was a kissing scene in a movie, no sex, no nudity, no touching of bodily parts . . . but the way he kissed her.
Damn - I fantasized about that kiss when I got off for quite some time.
The point? I have none other than the fact that 'turning someone on' or 'masturbation material' doesn't count (which really reflects the supreme court when they sort of waffled on this)
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This description is perfect - - - Yes I agree
So, overall, what you're saying is still:
"Porno “script” is for me - - 50 shades of grey, and similar works of written works of so called art. Where not much is left to the imagination of the person. The style and the words used are as simplified as possible. It loses all appeal to read. "
- Too much detail in a sex scene makes it porn and not erotica? In your view - nothing I have ever read or written is erotica because I write detailed sex scenes which cover everything (physical, sensory, visual, emotional, psychological).
So, I write nothing but porn - no matter how much effort I put into the plot, the story, the concept of the book overall? I'm too damned thorough?
See - this is why I agreed with the previous statement of it being subjective. People seem to think it's porn when they just don't like it.
To me - no matter how detailed and thorough something is - if there's a real story and emotions, it's not porn. That's what sets the two apart. My view keeps it from being subjective - you don't have to like it or even be the one to feel emotionally drawn in, nor do you need to approve of the plot.
Big-haired Bitch/Personality Hire
For me, erotica is when there's character development...where you find sensuality within the characters long before any actual sex takes place. It doesn't even have to be 'sweet' or 'tender', so to speak. To me erotica is when I'm caught up in the story and not just the sex.
And I think porn is when you're given a laundry list of details (44DDD boobs, 10 inch cock, abs, blonde hair, third nipple, etc.) and then sex happens. There's really no character development. Maybe some background info and/or hints at sexual tension between the characters that are going to have sex. But it's essentially like watching porn. You read about people and instantly know they're going to have sex...and then they have sex.
And I think porn is when you're given a laundry list of details (44DDD boobs, 10 inch cock, abs, blonde hair, third nipple, etc.) and then sex happens. There's really no character development. Maybe some background info and/or hints at sexual tension between the characters that are going to have sex. But it's essentially like watching porn. You read about people and instantly know they're going to have sex...and then they have sex.
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For me, erotica is when there's character development...where you find sensuality within the characters long before any actual sex takes place. It doesn't even have to be 'sweet' or 'tender', so to speak. To me erotica is when I'm caught up in the story and not just the sex.
And I think porn is when you're given a laundry list of details (44DDD boobs, 10 inch cock, abs, blonde hair, third nipple, etc.) and then sex happens. There's really no character development. Maybe some background info and/or hints at sexual tension between the characters that are going to have sex. But it's essentially like watching porn. You read about people and instantly know they're going to have sex...and then they have sex.
I didn't really answer the OP question when I posted originally, but I'll just second Slippery's answer (and a few similar ones upthread). I much prefer erotica (per this definition). Even for stroking, I find it hotter when there's some context and depth (doesn't have to be a lot, but some) beyond just what body parts went where.
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I think erotica is where you want to keep reading after you've come.
Nah! If you cum while you're reading that's porn, if you continue reading that's great porn and if you wait until you finish that's erotica.
My definition would be; in a story when a guy's cock gets hard it's erotica, when he puts it in that's porn.
Eros is the Greek God of love, so if you take the word erotica and trace it's meaning back, etymologically speaking, one could argue that erotica should focus more on love, or making love, than just sex. If it was just sex for the sake of sex, it's a porn story. That's my take, anyway. Going by that, one could say that erotica should be more story based, as well, but even porn has stories, so really there probably isn't any difference between a porn story and an erotica story.
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Eros is the Greek God of love, so if you take the word erotica and trace it's meaning back, etymologically speaking, one could argue that erotica should focus more on love, or making love, than just sex. If it was just sex for the sake of sex, it's a porn story. That's my take, anyway. Going by that, one could say that erotica should be more story based, as well, but even porn has stories, so really there probably isn't any difference between a porn story and an erotica story.
I'd use the other word pornoGRAPHIC and there's the difference for me. Porn leaves little or nothing to the imagination. Erotica stimulates the senses and porn cranks them up to max. Both have there place and I enjoy both. With erotica I'm horny by the third page with porn it's the third line. Lol.
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I'd use the other word pornoGRAPHIC and there's the difference for me. Porn leaves little or nothing to the imagination. Erotica stimulates the senses and porn cranks them up to max. Both have there place and I enjoy both. With erotica I'm horny by the third page with porn it's the third line. Lol.
Let's face it, about 90% of the stories on here are porn stories. I do include my stories in that too. But if you think about it, we may have taken different approaches, but we still reached the same conclusion, namely that porn is quick with hardly any story and erotica is slow with more of a story.