Nancy Pelosi recently advised Sen. Biden to "pretend you have a cold and I have a cold".
Is this what women really want?
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Pretend you have a cold -- Is this what women want?
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It is a reference to the claim Biden was too physically friendly women, not sexual harassment, just personal space issues.
Rainbow Warrior
Women have different perceptions of what constitutes their personal space, sometimes based on their individual experiences with the men in their lives, but we usually know when it gets creepy. Fortunately, women feel more empowered to set more boundaries nowadays than they used to in the past. My father's business partner is like Biden - while my sisters and I were growing up, he was always overly affectionate, touchy-feely... it could get uncomfortable sometimes, but my parents never thought it was anything but normal since they considered him almost part of the family, so we got used to it. The arm's length rule is something for men to live by unless they're in a close relationship with a woman/girl, and know the woman is comfortable with their attentions.
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What puzzles me is the likes of the woman I saw on TV the other evening who was so angry about Biden and that is was a power play, and so forth. This seems utter over-reaction. I do like men to give me attention, I don't mind being touched as long as they don't overdo it, but I do know harassment when it happens and I don't like that. I find that older men like Biden are products of a different time and wise women do well to cut them a bit of slack -- I do.
The Linebacker
Personal space issues cuts both ways. Women can be very aggressive also.
My second job out of college, there was an executive lady, over 10 years my senior, who had very large natural breasts. She'd take every opportunity to lean onto me at my desk and press her boobs all over me. She put lots of pressure on me to meet her after work for drinks and stuff. As she was a high up exec and partner in the business, l didn't have any recourse except to make myself as unavailable as possible.
As for as Biden being touchy and huggy, you do know there are just as many women as men who do that. Maybe men, on average, don't feel as intimidated, threatened, or lacking control when it is done to them.
I come from a very huggy family, so hugging doesn't seem like a big deal, but only if it's with people you know well and fully understand they are comfortable and welcoming about it.
I do feel a little strange when female business associates start the hugging thing. I normally feel that handshakes should be the norm in business.
In politics there is a lot of pretend closeness, hugging for the cameras and so forth. All very phony and weird, so yeah, maybe hugging in the political arena should be axed.
My second job out of college, there was an executive lady, over 10 years my senior, who had very large natural breasts. She'd take every opportunity to lean onto me at my desk and press her boobs all over me. She put lots of pressure on me to meet her after work for drinks and stuff. As she was a high up exec and partner in the business, l didn't have any recourse except to make myself as unavailable as possible.
As for as Biden being touchy and huggy, you do know there are just as many women as men who do that. Maybe men, on average, don't feel as intimidated, threatened, or lacking control when it is done to them.
I come from a very huggy family, so hugging doesn't seem like a big deal, but only if it's with people you know well and fully understand they are comfortable and welcoming about it.
I do feel a little strange when female business associates start the hugging thing. I normally feel that handshakes should be the norm in business.
In politics there is a lot of pretend closeness, hugging for the cameras and so forth. All very phony and weird, so yeah, maybe hugging in the political arena should be axed.
