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I am asking the gals about their reaction to a statement.

Now, I am a good guy, and I decided sometime ago, that is that way it was going to be, even if it my cost me any bad boy persona that helped with the ladies. Sometime, principles matter way more than profit, and pussy for that matter.

At any rate, i have been reading through a bunch of the posts, and women here and everywhere keep asking why men lie (not all but many). Ladies, here is the answer men lie to you: because ...... it ....... works. Face, men are like the mice trying to get to the cheese in a lab experiment. Once they find some that works, they will keep using it until it doesn't. We are also wired that way. We play football to score touchdowns. We work on car engines to make them work. We are problem solvers.

Men learn early, when they are horny (truthfully, I don't think that ever stops), that a lie frequently and telling the truth does not. If you tell a woman you are an investment banker or lead guitar player, and the panties drop, the mouse has found the cheese. Tell her you are a school teacher or accountant or whatever, and she turns around looking for the investment banker or guitar player, you go back to how to get to the cheese.

I was a bartender back in college, and it used to blow me away at watching how much bullshit men would throw at women, and how much they would eat it up.

Women ask why men treat them like shit. Mouse, cheese. If a man knocks down your confidence, or makes a woman feel bad (and I am exaggerating to make a point), and so she wakes up the next morning feeling guilty, fixes him breakfast, and sucks his cock while eating, guess what, mouse, cheese, he will do it again. If he treats her like a princess, and she goes off and fucks the lying guitar player (who really isn't a guitar player), guess what, he will go off and being the lying guitar player to the next woman who doesn't like her nice guy boyfriend back home.

Men observe, over and over again, that the guys who get the most and the most attractive women most often treat women like crap, manipulate and lie to them. I remember a guy in college and hearing a group of women talking about what a scum he was, how much he lied, how much he used a girl they knew, and how much he could not be trusted. I am also sure he fucked five of those same women in the next two years, and how pissed each was when they found out they were being used.

Mouse, cheese, touchdown, ignition - vroom.

So, I am asking that gals, why is this? Hell, start giving blowjobs to men that treat you well (they should treat you well, anyways - this is a bit of a joke), and to those that tell you the truth, guess what..

And honestly, this does not describe me above. Like I said, pussy or not, I would just rather do the right thing, and hope it leads to a woman with brains, kindness, passion, personality, and a lot to share with - and who loves to fuck, too.
....Is it wrong that I've become too lazy to actually read posts of this length? Am I bad person?

Good luck getting the answers you're looking for
Hmmm... my reaction is... you're 110% correct in everything you've said.

Every scenario you've mentioned, I've seen countless examples of it in my social circles.

If a guy is looking for a short-term fuck, then it makes sense to use lies like the ones you've mentioned. It also makes it easier to get rid of the them later when they find out the guy is an asshole and/or not an investment banker or pro-athlete/musician.

It only matters if you're thinking beyond the short-term. More women are apt to look at guys as potential for being "the one" or as a meaningful relationship. They are therefore less likely to pretend they have assets they don't have, or fabricate that they are an international model if it can't be substantiated.

But - plenty of women are likely to lie about loving blow-jobs and anal, only wanting to eat salad for dinner and putting out the teaser for a threesome with another hot girl "one day" in order to permanently hook a guy. Then once they get what they want - the committed relationship/engagement/marriage, they morph into someone else who no longer is game for dirty sex, kinky lingerie or busting their ass at the gym every day.

I think guys lie more with the short-term lures, but women focus their efforts more on the long-term ones.

For the record - I think it's fucked up to play games like this in general, but I know it happens all the time.
Mostly I agree with DD, but at the same same time what are you looking for guys and girls when you out at the club. Are you looking for a long term relationship and maybe a walk down the aisle? I think not. If you are it sure seems to me that you are looking in the wrong place.

If your goal is to find a guy or a gal for a hot hour or two or maybe even the night. Does it rally matter if everything you hear from the other person is bound in truth or not if we both achieved our goals. Where is the damage.
And why do 50% of all marriages die?

"they morph into someone else who no longer is game for dirty sex, kinky lingerie or busting their ass at the gym every day."

Always find interesting that women I know suddenly become work out freaks after the split.

Men lie to push things along? And women lie to pull things along? Nah, too easy.
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Hmmm... my reaction is... you're 110% correct in everything you've said.

Every scenario you've mentioned, I've seen countless examples of it in my social circles.

If a guy is looking for a short-term fuck, then it makes sense to use lies like the ones you've mentioned. It also makes it easier to get rid of the them later when they find out the guy is an asshole and/or not an investment banker or pro-athlete/musician.

It only matters if you're thinking beyond the short-term. More women are apt to look at guys as potential for being "the one" or as a meaningful relationship. They are therefore less likely to pretend they have assets they don't have, or fabricate that they are an international model if it can't be substantiated.

But - plenty of women are likely to lie about loving blow-jobs and anal, only wanting to eat salad for dinner and putting out the teaser for a threesome with another hot girl "one day" in order to permanently hook a guy. Then once they get what they want - the committed relationship/engagement/marriage, they morph into someone else who no longer is game for dirty sex, kinky lingerie or busting their ass at the gym every day.

I think guys lie more with the short-term lures, but women focus their efforts more on the long-term ones.

For the record - I think it's fucked up to play games like this in general, but I know it happens all the time.


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