
Quote by lafayettemister
How does it degrade or disrespect you to cum on a woman's face? Surely you aren't telling women who enjoy such things how they should feel?
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
It doesn't disrespect or degrade me - it disrespects and degrades the woman. It makes me wonder what happened earlier in their life that makes that seem like an act of respect or admiration. Can you imagine your Dad coming on your Mom's face, or perhaps your Sister's boyfriend coming on her face? What about that is respectful? Like I said, there are many other options besides the face.
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
It doesn't disrespect or degrade me - it disrespects and degrades the woman. It makes me wonder what happened earlier in their life that makes that seem like an act of respect or admiration. Can you imagine your Dad coming on your Mom's face, or perhaps your Sister's boyfriend coming on her face? What about that is respectful? Like I said, there are many other options besides the face.
Quote by lafayettemister
But if she wants him to cum on her face she's degrading herself because of her past? Come on GC, that's not for you to decide is it?
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
No, you twisted my words. The woman is not degrading herself. It's a degrading act and I believe she's allowing herself to experience a degrading act because of something in her past. I'm sure as a little girl, she didn't grow up unable to wait until she could get a load of cum on the face. I'm quite certain it would not be considered a normal part of sex by a great majority of people if the question were studied. If I was with a woman and she asked me to do that, I would explain how I felt about the act and if she 'had' to have it, it most likely would signal the end of the relationship. I noticed how you didn't answer the question about how you would feel if your Dad did that to your Mom or your Sister's boyfriend did it to her.
But I don't have to be with a woman who wants that done to her anymore than she has to be with a guy who feels some compulsion to do that to her.
Quote by lafayettemister
edit... it's a degrading act in your opinion. but not everyone shares your opinion, wouldn't you agree?
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Maybe we should take a poll? I have a feeling my opinion is among the majority, whether the poll is taken on Lush or an even wider sample of the population.
Quote by lafayettemister
Invalid opinion... Cum facials are a degrading act and women that enjoy them must have had some form of abuse in their past. Any woman that likes cum facials is agreeing to being degraded.
Quote by lafayettemister
You didn't post your opinion. You posted that it's degrading to women. (THAT'S MY OPINION)You aren't a woman so you can't opine about whether something is degrading or disrestpectful to all women.
Valid opinion... GC doesn't think it's a turn on to cum on a woman's face. Not something he would ever enjoy as he'd feel he's disrespecting her to do so.
Invalid opinion... Cum facials(NEVER USED THIS PHRASE) are a degrading act and women that enjoy them must have had some form of abuse(NEVER USED THIS WORD) in their past. Any woman that likes cum facials is agreeing to being degraded(POOR RE-PHRASING OF A STATEMENT AND I DISAGREE WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION).
edit.. we could do a poll, but it wouldn't prove anything. You're opinion is that it's degrading, like it's a fact. If even one woman disagrees then your fact is disputed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not entitled to telling someone else how to feel.
Quote by Goincrazy98
I would get a thrill however
if a woman were to cum on my face
while eating.....
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Now... Should I bring my own sandwich for the moustache ride or will you provide munchies?![]()
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Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens.
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
It doesn't disrespect or degrade me - it disrespects and degrades the woman. It makes me wonder what happened earlier in their life that makes that seem like an act of respect or admiration. Can you imagine your Dad coming on your Mom's face, or perhaps your Sister's boyfriend coming on her face? What about that is respectful? Like I said, there are many other options besides the face.
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
No, you twisted my words. The woman is not degrading herself. It's a degrading act and I believe she's allowing herself to experience a degrading act because of something in her past. I'm sure as a little girl, she didn't grow up unable to wait until she could get a load of cum on the face. I'm quite certain it would not be considered a normal part of sex by a great majority of people if the question were studied. If I was with a woman and she asked me to do that, I would explain how I felt about the act and if she 'had' to have it, it most likely would signal the end of the relationship. I noticed how you didn't answer the question about how you would feel if your Dad did that to your Mom or your Sister's boyfriend did it to her.
But I don't have to be with a woman who wants that done to her anymore than she has to be with a guy who feels some compulsion to do that to her.
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Do you always twist peoples words? You seem to have trouble understanding exactly what I wrote and contrary to what you think, I did post my opinion, stated in plain English and quite concisely.
Did I tell you what to think or do? NO. Did I EVER tell anyone what they should think or do? NO. What exactly about my post has your panties in such a bunch? You seem to lack so reading skills - where or when did I use the word 'Abuse'? - I've read every post I've made on this thread and have never used that word.
Arguing a position by misrepresenting the point made or actual language used will not help you win the debate. You replies to my OPINION (did I ever state it was anything other than MY opinion? Again, NO.) are totally invalid and for someone who claimed on his post on page 6 of this thread to have never experienced the activity anyhow, Why the Hell are you arguing with me about MY OPINION in the first place? CAREFULLY read my posts and you'll see everything I expressed was simply MY OPINION. You're entitled to your own opinion, too but you are not entitled to misrepresent MINE.
In the future please refrain from quoting me unless you use my actual words.
Quote by lafayettemister
First off, you never used the term "cum facial". But that's what it's called. That's the terminology for the act in question.(That's slang terminology for an act that I feel is disrespectful and degrading to women. Try to find it at Dictionary.com, it's not there!)
You never used the specific word "abuse", but have several times mentioned "something" from a woman's past. You're referencing abuse even if you don't use the word. (No I'm not. That's an example of you attributing words to me that I did not use. There are thousands of possibilities that might result in a woman wanting a man to ejaculate on her face that wouldn't be considered abuse - traumatic events, neglect/abandonment are just two general categories you would find causation that wouldn't be considered abuse. Of course, abuse could also be a causation, but not exclusively)
I guess our difference is that I don't think that either of us, men, can have an opinion on what is degrading to women. Only a woman can decide that for herself. (Do you have an opinion on abortion rights? Do you have an opinion about wage equality for women? Do you have an opinion on any other women's issues? I have opinions on all those, so your statement that men can't have opinions regarding women is ludicrous, including whether or not I opine that an act is degrading or disrespectful.) Some people think swallowing cum is degrading to women. Some think stripping is degrading to women. Only a woman herself can say what is degrading to her.(True only a woman can choose her own opinion. That does not mean I am not entitled to my own opinion just because I carry no Y chromosome. That's all I'm saying. My disagreement with your opinion is that you can tell someone how to feel. (There you go again putting words into my mouth. When or where did I ever tell someone how to feel? I expressed my opinion, that is all I did.
Quote by lafayettemister
Ok, so you're saying that for any woman who asks for or enjoys ejaculate on her face must have had some sort of trauma in her life. It's not possible for a woman to just enjoy doing something different? To maybe find it to be really hot just because they're sexually adventurous and confident in themselves?
Comparing this to abortion is apples and oranges. But to use your analogy... We could argue about whether or not it's right to have an abortion. What we couldn't do is assign some emotion or moral term to define their actions. Like degradation, disrespect, humiliation, shame. All of those terms define how she should/would/could feel, those aren't part of debate.
The original question is whether or not it's a "turn on". To you it's not a turn on, fair enough. No one can say if an action on their part is degrading. I could say whenever you fart or slap a woman's ass during sex or cum in her mouth or bite/nibble on her nipple, it's degrading. But i have no right to do so, I can't have an opinion about your agreed upon actions. I can disagree that I wouldn't do it, but not that you shouldn't.
edit... to quote a female Lush friend... "he's saying it's degrading, it's only degrading if the woman involved is degraded. it's not in itself degrading"
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
You're still twisting my words around. You're being disingenuous and I don't really understand why. but from here on out I'm simply going to ignore you and your rants. You've lied about what I've said, attributed things to me I never said, You are simply not worth discussing any issue with, let alone this one. For anyone with critical thinking skills, simply read my very first post. All the arguing here has been due to lafayettemister's inability to understand what I wrote and then go off on his little tantrum. please, grow up.
I wrote:
"Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens."
This was my opinion and I intended to leave it as such until lafayettemister started twisting my word and 'assuming' he knew what I meant and 'insinuating' that I was not free to have my own opinion and perhaps insisting that I adopt HIS opinion. I did clarify my statement a bit when he erroneously thought that I meant it was that it was somehow degrading or disrespectful to me. Other than that, I can't understand how he dare argue with me because my opinion differs from his. What gives you the right to tell me whether my opinion is valid or not. I never judged your opinon. You obviously don't know how to enjoy a civil debate nor how to be honest when doing so. Good bye.
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens.
Quote by lafayettemister
How does it degrade or disrespect you to cum on a woman's face? Surely you aren't telling women who enjoy such things how they should feel?