Is something wrong?

Quote by She


Please trinket, didn't you say few posts above that is going to be your last one? Beside none of your replays in this thread were OP related whatsoever. Send MF pm and ask him about mofo. (and all of your supporters - heck you can all sign one pm to save the trouble)

Quote by She


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mofo

Quote by She
Please trinket, didn't you say few posts above that is going to be your last one? Beside none of your replays in this thread were OP related whatsoever. Send MF pm and ask him about mofo. (and all of your supporters - heck you can all sign one pm to save the trouble)

Quote by Stevoc20
I been living lifestyle for about 2 years, learning about it for longer, I am a dominant, but I dont enjoy the idea of being mean rough and Hurting a submissive for no reason, If broke rules or was disobedient , then Id punish them appropriately, but All I seem be seeing is girls looking for dominants to beat and hurt them willingly. Something is very wrong, because beating a sub for no reason isnt what a true dominant should do. Any Advice? I been searching for ages and lack of good fortune starting to annoy me

Respect other users

Sometimes people can write something that you may find offensive. Before launching into a public condemnation though, please consider that the person may not have intended to cause offence. It is very easy to misinterpret a post on forums. There is absolutely no need to resort to insults. Respect others' views even if you disagree with them.

Personal disputes

Please do not use these forums for personal disputes, heated debates, flame wars etc. You are expected to treat each other with respect in the forums and take any personal disputes to a private mode of discussion off the forums. If you should find that your discussion is becoming too heated or someone is becoming far too passionate about their argument, please take the discussion to private message or email.

Quote by Magical_felix


LOL what... did you go to master college, **Content removed by moderator. No name calling please.**?

Can someone please explain to me why someone needs to study like a huge nerd - for years - to learn something that should be an inherent trait because we are talking about sex here right?

I mean this dude studied - for years - to be a master...?

WHAT!?

Like studied what? Are there master textbooks n shit??? Like is there a master study group with quizzes n shit? Like is that an elective or can you minor in masterdom or what the hell? Can someone study - for years - to be a master and like fail? like, is there a head master to govern the study of masters and then they give out grades or what in the fuck? Can you get a BA in being a master or is it a BS as in bullshit of masterdom? Or do you like master in being a master. Like WHAT DO YOU STUDY TO BE A MASTER AND WHERE??????? Are some masters in student loan debt after studying - for years - to become a master? WHAT THE FUCK???



I'm sorry but this is just like one of the funniest things I have ever read.

Quote by Dani
I'll post these excerpts again, as name calling is still occurring:

Respect other users

Sometimes people can write something that you may find offensive. Before launching into a public condemnation though, please consider that the person may not have intended to cause offence. It is very easy to misinterpret a post on forums. There is absolutely no need to resort to insults. Respect others' views even if you disagree with them.

Quote by BiMale73


I find it strange to ask people to respect views they wholeheartedly disagree with. I hear/read this a lot and I think it's one of the reasons why many people think it's disrespectful to them if one disagrees with their views. It's not.
In my mind the last part should be changed to "Respect others even if you disagree with their views."

Quote by Dani


I understand that these are legitimate concerns. Perhaps they would be better addressed in another thread entirely. Feel free to start another thread with this as a topic.

I look forward to the replies.

Let's keep things on topic going forward.

Quote by Magical_felix


Did you read the OP's topic starter? He mentions he's a Dom with some confusion about the treatment and motivation of people who act submissive for him. "Master" Jonathan came in to say very little with many words and he said he studied for years (lol) to be a master. Obviously a "master" would know what was up with the submissive so that would indicate the OP isn't one nor does the OP claim to be one. I would imagine "master" Jonathan hasn't forgotten where he did all his studying on the subject and I would also imagine that that information would be useful to the OP.

The OP pretty much needs information on how to be a better master. I asked "master" Jonathan to share some information.

Not sure how exactly my inquiry is off topic.

Of course I know that the master's knowledge tends shrink when me or anyone asks for any kind of explanation so there is a mocking tone to my post. But I was right, they never respond, they never answer anything.

Quote by Magical_felix


Did you read the OP's topic starter? He mentions he's a Dom with some confusion about the treatment and motivation of people who act submissive for him. "Master" Jonathan came in to say very little with many words and he said he studied for years (lol) to be a master. Obviously a "master" would know what was up with the submissive so that would indicate the OP isn't one nor does the OP claim to be one. I would imagine "master" Jonathan hasn't forgotten where he did all his studying on the subject and I would also imagine that that information would be useful to the OP.

The OP pretty much needs information on how to be a better master. I asked "master" Jonathan to share some information.

Not sure how exactly my inquiry is off topic.

Of course I know that the master's knowledge tends shrink when me or anyone asks for any kind of explanation so there is a mocking tone to my post. But I was right, they never respond, they never answer anything.

Quote by Stevoc20
I been living lifestyle for about 2 years, learning about it for longer, I am a dominant, but I dont enjoy the idea of being mean rough and Hurting a submissive for no reason, If broke rules or was disobedient , then Id punish them appropriately, but All I seem be seeing is girls looking for dominants to beat and hurt them willingly. Something is very wrong, because beating a sub for no reason isnt what a true dominant should do. Any Advice? I been searching for ages and lack of good fortune starting to annoy me

Quote by MasterJonathan
I'd like to add My opinions to this thread...
First off, to 1LovelyKinkyKitsune; A Master is dominant but a Master is more than a Dom. A Dom is in the truest sense of the word, one who is dominant. But a Master has taken it to a whole other level. I have been a Dom most of my life. It was only after years of study and learning all I could on the subject that I became a Master.

Now as for the original post: As it has been said there are as many different styles and degrees of BDSM as there are participants. Some call themselves submissives, some call themselves slaves, some call themselves littles or babygirls or brats. On the other side you have Doms, Daddys, Sirs, and Masters. How two people interact is entirely up to them and there are no "wrong" ways to play. BDSM is like any other type of sex play - what works for you is all that matters. Some submissives enjoy things a little rougher just as some Doms enjoy a harder style as well.

The trick is to find a partner that shares your speed and style of play and who can walk with you - not pulling you along and not slowing you down. Once you have that, you will find the journey happy, beautiful, and rewarding.

Quote by daddysweetheart


Thank you for your informative post Master Jonathan...

And good luck to the OP..I would look elsewhere. Hugs my friend

Quote by HeraTeleia
Not sure why anyone would refer to Jonathan as anything but Jonathan, except for perhaps the person to whom he is "Master". And personally, I find anyone who capitalises pronouns referring to themselves (e.g., My rules, Myself) to be just a wee bit ridiculous. IME, guys who refer to themselves as "Master" online or off tend to be rather powerless in their own personal life, which is to say, they hold insignificant, easily replaced jobs, or no job at all, and it seems that they are trying to compensate for their lack of power over their own lives by seeking to project an image of power over another human being.

And yes, the idea of "years of study" to become a "true Master" is a little bit laughable. Whatever, though, it's the Interwebz. OP, good luck with whatever it is that you're trying to do.

Quote by daddysweetheart
There is a serious lack of respect for Master Jonathan..

Quote by daddysweetheart
That's all I will say

Quote by BiMale73


I find it strange to ask people to respect views they wholeheartedly disagree with. I hear/read this a lot and I think it's one of the reasons why many people think it's disrespectful to them if one disagrees with their views. It's not.
In my mind the last part should be changed to "Respect others even if you disagree with their views."

Respect other users

Sometimes people can write something that you may find offensive. Before launching into a public condemnation though, please consider that the person may not have intended to cause offence. It is very easy to misinterpret a post on forums. There is absolutely no need to resort to insults. Respect others even if you disagree with their views.

Quote by daddysweetheart
There is a serious lack of respect for Master Jonathan..

And to the bdsm lifestyle.

That's all I will say.

Quote by Banes1
Totally agree





Though I must add that what Master Jonathan said was very informative. To master anything in life, a person should do research, apply what they learned from it and practice the skill(s). The simplest thing to have done was just ask what he meant by "study." But I guess that would have been too easy for MF.

All negative posts about specific members or the BDSM lifestyle in general will be removed from this thread from this point forward.

If you have such an issue, find another medium to air your grievances. This thread is not the place to do it.

Please and thank you.

Quote by MasterJonathan
Ok Felix you want answers, I will give you answers.

There is no "school" per se, on how to become a Master. However that does not mean that there is not educational opportunities out there in which you can learn to be one. There is no "degree" that you can obtain or diploma you can hang on your wall, however that doesn't mean that you can't be proud of knowing that you are "schooled" in being a gentleman.

My education was not in a classroom with books and chalkboards and such. My schooling was in learning how to be a man first. Then be a gentleman, and finally learning what my girl likes and enjoys, getting to know her better than anyone else - including her.

As for the BDSM stuff, I did a LOT of research online going to different websites, forums, chatrooms, and the like. I gathered up all the information I possibly could on the various aspects of this life. Then I threw out what was obviously abuse, sadism, masochism, and just plain stupidity and what was left I looked over again. From that I developed my style of BDSM. I may not have a "Master's degree" to hang on the wall, but you know what - I also don't come into the forums to bash and badmouth people either. My friends and those that know me know who I am and what I am. And they like it. So whether I am a certified Master or not doesn't matter - I am a GENTLEMAN

To be a Master, you have to be a gentleman. And that means no name calling, no belittling another's opinions or views, even if you don't agree with them, and no publicly trying to degrade another person to try to put them down. Learning respect for other people and for others lifestyles is the first step.