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Russell Brand - Voting, Revolution and Beards...

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Honestly, I'd like to see him go into politics... It would spice things up no end and maybe have the younger generation making more of an effort to learn and get involved...




He speaks so well and it makes for such good entertainment to see him go up against the mighty Jeremy Paxman...
Intellectualism, and high IQ never fits well within the paradigm of politics, just ask Jimmy Carter. However, going from the view of checks and balances here in the states. Brand, along with many other real thinkers, are a good check to the lot, and serve us well.

Why do we vote in bland thinking on a consistent basis would be my question?
Here's the state of journalism that was once one of those checks.

Further.

"...like a glistening pink pony trotting through your mind shitting glitter."
You know, I think that Brand eloquently expresses the feeling of many with regard to politics - not just in the UK, but further afield.

Now, I don't know if you are aware or not, but Scotland are currently in the process of devolving from the rest of UK, but we are such a lazy, lethargic nation that it seems unlikely that anyone will even care, especially the younger generation.

Why?

Because they know little or nothing of politics. There are very few interesting politicians. At least with someone like Brand, he has a different take on things, different motivations and to my mind would be a breath of fresh air - something that is very much needed at this time...
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You know, I think that Brand eloquently expresses the feeling of many with regard to politics - not just in the UK, but further afield.

Now, I don't know if you are aware or not, but Scotland are currently in the process of devolving from the rest of UK, but we are such a lazy, lethargic nation that it seems unlikely that anyone will even care, especially the younger generation.

Why?

Because they know little or nothing of politics. There are very few interesting politicians. At least with someone like Brand, he has a different take on things, different motivations and to my mind would be a breath of fresh air - something that is very much needed at this time...


Unfortunately there's no difference between not-voting through apathy and not-voting at a protest - it just makes the vote of those you don't agree with even stronger.

Brand strikes me as someone who has self-parodied so much he doesn't even what he is any more. His agenda appears to be that of the Green Party, and I'm sure he's affluent enough to live in an area of London that has a Green candidate - so why not vote Green, they need as many votes as they can get. Paxman's right - how can you have a view on politics and democracy if you're actively promoting self-disenfranchisement?

I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country, I still vote despite the fact that my vote is effectively worthless. Why should I bother? I bother so that my vote can diminish the vote of any BNP or UKIP candidates. In the last election, 2% of those who bothered voting in the UK, voted BNP - one person in fifty - a shamefully high proportion.

Yes, young people need to feel involved in politics and made to feel that they can have a say. Unfortunately most young people's idea of voting is something they have to ask the bill payer's permission for first. I can't see how one of the the poster boys for everything that's wrong with celebrity culture in the UK is going to change that.
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Unfortunately there's no difference between not-voting through apathy and not-voting at a protest - it just makes the vote of those you don't agree with even stronger.


Yes, I'll give you that - non voting seems to be a real issue these days. Why can't they find a way to make it popular and current? I mean, if you look at all the crap that makes the headlines in the newspapers and 'trends' on various social media sites, one would think that politicians would eagerly jump onto that bandwagon and make it popular, embrace popular social culture and involve their people, evolve into what their electorate actually want (and need).

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Brand strikes me as someone who has self-parodied so much he doesn't even what he is any more. His agenda appears to be that of the Green Party, and I'm sure he's affluent enough to live in an area of London that has a Green candidate - so why not vote Green, they need as many votes as they can get. Paxman's right - how can you have a view on politics and democracy if you're actively promoting self-disenfranchisement?


Yes, I don't agree with the non-voting in that sense, and I do think that he comes across as deliberately rebellious/obstreperous in his approach to that. However, he is an interesting character, isn't he? People want to know what he thinks, see what he is doing, listen to him - he makes headlines. They care what his opinion might be on myriad subjects (well, I do and many people I know feel the same) and what's more, he's bloody entertaining. I've seem people crumble under Paxman's scrutiny, many times - he's a formidable fellow and also entertaining - but Brand didn't. He has that wonderful slipperiness that all the best politicians have.

Think about our current politicians, from all parties. Who stands out? Cameron? Milliband(s) et al? NO! They are blank, bland and boring as fuck! The most interesting one right now is probably Boris Johnston (I'm rather fond of him, despite the fact that he is a Tory).

Remember a few decades ago when politics was interesting? I learned more from watching Spitting Image than I know about politics now (although I wasn't quite old enough to vote then, but as soon as I was, I felt proud to be able to, it was like a rite of passage, my chance to make myself heard)- Thatcher, Kinnock et al - whether or not you agreed with their views, they shook things up, kept the public interested and I would be prepared to bet that voting ratios were much higher then than they are now. (you're more au fait with statistics than I)

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I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country, I still vote despite the fact that my vote is effectively worthless. Why should I bother? I bother so that my vote can diminish the vote of any BNP or UKIP candidates. In the last election, 2% of those who bothered voting in the UK, voted BNP - one person in fifty - a shamefully high proportion.

Yes, young people need to feel involved in politics and made to feel that they can have a say. Unfortunately most young people's idea of voting is something they have to ask the bill payer's permission for first. I can't see how one of the the poster boys for everything that's wrong with celebrity culture in the UK is going to change that.


So, we need characters like Brand (I'm not saying I'd want someone like him as Prime Minister or anything like that, but were there more like him, controversial, shaking things up, more people would be interested and likely to vote).

George Galloway was a favourite of mine (I've met him a few times, when he used to come into the office of the newspaper where I worked - he was sleazy, charming and completely engaging). He was always interesting to watch and listen to in interviews.

Tommy Sheridan was another - as a young man, starting out, he was so eloquent and had such fire and determination and you know what? He actually roused us Scots, got us off our arses and onto our feet to get rid of the Poll Tax - and we did! I can't remember the last time I've seen such unity (we need someone like him now)

The politicians, always so good at spin and backstabbing, wriggling and all that malarkey, need to accept the way that people communicate nowadays - move with the times and embrace social media, use it better to their advantage, rather than belittling those who are lethargic, lazy and do not vote (for whatever reasons) - after all, they've nurtured this mindset, haven't they? Only they can turn it around now (if they even want to)

Really, what I am saying is that we need more people who can put that fire back in our bellies, get us up and voting, interested and involved - characters like Brand are just what we need.
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Unfortunately there's no difference between not-voting through apathy and not-voting at a protest - it just makes the vote of those you don't agree with even stronger.


I have to totally agree with you on that point.
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So, we need characters like Brand (I'm not saying I'd want someone like him as Prime Minister or anything like that, but were there more like him, controversial, shaking things up, more people would be interested and likely to vote).

George Galloway was a favourite of mine (I've met him a few times, when he used to come into the office of the newspaper where I worked - he was sleazy, charming and completely engaging). He was always interesting to watch and listen to in interviews.

Tommy Sheridan was another - as a young man, starting out, he was so eloquent and had such fire and determination and you know what? He actually roused us Scots, got us off our arses and onto our feet to get rid of the Poll Tax - and we did! I can't remember the last time I've seen such unity (we need someone like him now)

The politicians, always so good at spin and backstabbing, wriggling and all that malarkey, need to accept the way that people communicate nowadays - move with the times and embrace social media, use it better to their advantage, rather than belittling those who are lethargic, lazy and do not vote (for whatever reasons) - after all, they've nurtured this mindset, haven't they? Only they can turn it around now (if they even want to)

Really, what I am saying is that we need more people who can put that fire back in our bellies, get us up and voting, interested and involved - characters like Brand are just what we need.


It's easy to be a personality - you just have to not be an arsehole. In fact you don't even have to do that. Brand can get by with delighting less than 10% of the population and he'd still have enough fame to sell his films, DVDs and *ahem* "bookie-wooks". The worse thing he can do is prank call octogenarians.

Trouble is when you're a politician you have to please so many people you end up pleasing no one. Eventually you're going to have to close a hospital, knock down a donkey sanctuary, invade somewhere or something equally uncool.

This is why talk of Eddie Izzard becoming London Mayor is just baffling - he won't be able to "Azerbaijan" his way though budget meetings or transport infrastructure tendering bids.

Paxman went easy on him because he knows Brand is just hot air. He's not changing anything, he's not doing anything except saying "look at me".

I did like Rob Webb's response to him in the New Statesman
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