Have you come out to family/parents?

14 Dec 2013

Quote by dpw

Please believe me on this point, there is no credible scientific study that proves homosexuality is a choice. It's not because I and many thousands if not millions of gays would have chosen it. It is naive to say we have a choice because that means all heterosexuals also had a choice and they could choose to be gay!

This is what I am saying. If people would be brave enough, courageous enough to listen what exactly their essence wants, they would choose to be with a person they are attracted to it. For now, my mind hasn't been changed, I still believe that human race is bisexual.

14 Dec 2013

Quote by She

This is what I am saying. If people would be brave enough, courageous enough to listen what exactly their essence wants, they would choose to be with a person they are attracted to it. For now, my mind hasn't been changed, I still believe that human race is bisexual.

so, if a person is attracted to someone of the opposite sex, if that's what their essence wants, they are still bi-sexual, even if their essence is ever attracted to a member of the same sex? i'm really not sure how that works. care to explain that a little more in depth?

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

14 Dec 2013

Quote by sprite

so, if a person is attracted to someone of the opposite sex, if that's what their essence wants, they are still bi-sexual, even if their essence is ever attracted to a member of the same sex? i'm really not sure how that works. care to explain that a little more in depth?

I've given up! Can someone let Buz know he's bisexual and in denial, I sure he'll be thrilled to learn!

14 Dec 2013

Quote by sprite

so, if a person is attracted to someone of the opposite sex, if that's what their essence wants, they are still bi-sexual, even if their essence is ever attracted to a member of the same sex? i'm really not sure how that works. care to explain that a little more in depth?

I'm actually curious about this as well. Everyone being bisexual whether they know it or not is an interesting belief system...to say the least. confused1

"What is the quality of your intent?" - Thurgood Marshall

14 Dec 2013

yer came out to family know I have none

14 Dec 2013

I remember my first experience with a girl freaked me out some and a friend of a friend was a sex therapist so I talked with her for a long time. I was scared to death that I was a lesbian and I will explain. Even though being gay was largely accepted more I still didn't want to belong to a group that had to fight an uphill battle day after day for equal treatment. I was young then so my views were just beginning to form on a variety of subjects. We talked and I realized I wasn't a lesbian but bisexual because I couldn't see my life without men in it so it was clear I was bi. I am attracted sexually and emotionally to both. She explained that sexuality was like a bell curve with different degrees of attraction to the same or opposite sex. I know gay men who find vaginas actually intriguing and others who are like ewwww. I have a gay male friend who loves the female form but just doesn't want to have sex with one. Then I know lesbians who have been with men and have no issue with penises and then others who are like ewwww. It really is a case by case basis.
My other point is that when people think gay or straight is only about sex I disagree. It is about emotional attachment as well because in order to have a relationship with someone there have to be emotions involved. Emotional involvements with men are very different than emotional involvements with women.

14 Dec 2013

Quote by She

This is what I am saying. If people would be brave enough, courageous enough to listen what exactly their essence wants, they would choose to be with a person they are attracted to it. For now, my mind hasn't been changed, I still believe that human race is bisexual.

Quote by NickiC
I remember my first experience with a girl freaked me out some and a friend of a friend was a sex therapist so I talked with her for a long time. I was scared to death that I was a lesbian and I will explain. Even though being gay was largely accepted more I still didn't want to belong to a group that had to fight an uphill battle day after day for equal treatment. I was young then so my views were just beginning to form on a variety of subjects. We talked and I realized I wasn't a lesbian but bisexual because I couldn't see my life without men in it so it was clear I was bi. I am attracted sexually and emotionally to both. She explained that sexuality was like a bell curve with different degrees of attraction to the same or opposite sex. I know gay men who find vaginas actually intriguing and others who are like ewwww. I have a gay male friend who loves the female form but just doesn't want to have sex with one. Then I know lesbians who have been with men and have no issue with penises and then others who are like ewwww. It really is a case by case basis.
My other point is that when people think gay or straight is only about sex I disagree. It is about emotional attachment as well because in order to have a relationship with someone there have to be emotions involved. Emotional involvements with men are very different than emotional involvements with women.

I am going to chime in, a bit late but I think valid opinion simply because of age, maturity and experience.

I think we all can be attracted to members of both sexes without cause. Does that make us bisexual or gay/lesbian? No. When it comes to sexuality I think attraction is mutual. I can say there are a number of men I am attracted to. Sexually even. Having said that, and having 'experimented' when I was younger, I prefer NOT to act on that feeling. That doesn't mean he/they are less attractive.

The same goes for ladies. There are a number of ladies I am very close to, attracted sexually to, but I choose NOT to act on those urges. Why? Simply because I prefer the friendship without the burden of dealing with the sexual situations that occur after.

But I think the human race as a whole can and should get over their ingrained (wonder where it all started - I would like to smack the shite out of them) inhibitions relating to human sexuality. Come on people, sex is good.

"I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free." Nikos Kazantzakis

14 Dec 2013

Quote by NickiC
I remember my first experience with a girl freaked me out some and a friend of a friend was a sex therapist so I talked with her for a long time. I was scared to death that I was a lesbian and I will explain. Even though being gay was largely accepted more I still didn't want to belong to a group that had to fight an uphill battle day after day for equal treatment. I was young then so my views were just beginning to form on a variety of subjects. We talked and I realized I wasn't a lesbian but bisexual because I couldn't see my life without men in it so it was clear I was bi. I am attracted sexually and emotionally to both. She explained that sexuality was like a bell curve with different degrees of attraction to the same or opposite sex. I know gay men who find vaginas actually intriguing and others who are like ewwww. I have a gay male friend who loves the female form but just doesn't want to have sex with one. Then I know lesbians who have been with men and have no issue with penises and then others who are like ewwww. It really is a case by case basis.
My other point is that when people think gay or straight is only about sex I disagree. It is about emotional attachment as well because in order to have a relationship with someone there have to be emotions involved. Emotional involvements with men are very different than emotional involvements with women.

I have no problem with vaginas, I've gone down on quite a few. I've put my penis into the same number but didn't enjoy that as much, I'd think of a guy to make me cum. It's the breasts I have the problem with, they are the thing I don't like one bit and the bigger they are the more I don't like them.

14 Dec 2013

Quote by WSCLG
But I think the human race as a whole can and should get over their ingrained (wonder where it all started - I would like to smack the shite out of them) inhibitions relating to human sexuality. Come on people, sex is good.

I completely agree with this.

But at the end of the day, people like what they like. We all experience sex very differently, whether it be exposure to it or the physical act itself. This is what shapes our inhibitions when it comes to sex...or lack thereof.

Some people are inhibited because they're naive or because of bad experiences. Others are inhibited because that's what works for them.

We can't take our sexual experiences and apply them to everyone because most people reach a point where they know what works for them.

Unfortunately there are those that are 'confused' about their sexuality...but that can be because they're denying some part of themselves. But I believe you can be confident in your heterosexuality or bisexuality or homosexuality. Some people don't like these labels at all.

But everyone who's honest with themselves knows what they like...and they embrace what they like and avoid what they don't.

So saying all of humanity inherently fits into one category is a bit asinine.

"What is the quality of your intent?" - Thurgood Marshall

14 Dec 2013

My Wife met Kylie before she met the other side of me so didn't need to come out to her. As for the rest of my Family I waited until they were grown up and each of them supports me.

15 Dec 2013

Quote by kylie_kained
My Wife met Kylie before she met the other side of me so didn't need to come out to her. As for the rest of my Family I waited until they were grown up and each of them supports me.

That is really fascinating. Where there no hiccups at all?

15 Dec 2013

Quote by dpw

I have no problem with vaginas, I've gone down on quite a few. I've put my penis into the same number but didn't enjoy that as much, I'd think of a guy to make me cum. It's the breasts I have the problem with, they are the thing I don't like one bit and the bigger they are the more I don't like them.

You know that makes sense. I can see that.

You thought it was him but the twin is a good actor.

15 Dec 2013

Quote by WSCLG

I am going to chime in, a bit late but I think valid opinion simply because of age, maturity and experience.

I think we all can be attracted to members of both sexes without cause. Does that make us bisexual or gay/lesbian? No. When it comes to sexuality I think attraction is mutual. I can say there are a number of men I am attracted to. Sexually even. Having said that, and having 'experimented' when I was younger, I prefer NOT to act on that feeling. That doesn't mean he/they are less attractive.

The same goes for ladies. There are a number of ladies I am very close to, attracted sexually to, but I choose NOT to act on those urges. Why? Simply because I prefer the friendship without the burden of dealing with the sexual situations that occur after.

But I think the human race as a whole can and should get over their ingrained (wonder where it all started - I would like to smack the shite out of them) inhibitions relating to human sexuality. Come on people, sex is good.

I think thoughts are one thing and action clearly another. So I agree with your post 100%.

15 Dec 2013

Yes and parents knew I was lesbian before.

15 Dec 2013

Quote by sprite

so, if a person is attracted to someone of the opposite sex, if that's what their essence wants, they are still bi-sexual, even if their essence is ever attracted to a member of the same sex? i'm really not sure how that works. care to explain that a little more in depth?

For sure I will try.
Okay, lets for a second forget about all the labels that we gave ourselves and just hear me what I am saying.
On this planet it is all sorts of us, each one of us if slightly different than the next person, what we like and to who are we attracted to is very personal and intimate. Sometimes that is just the way people smell, how they say hello, move their hair away from face and so on. The same way we are attracted to people sexually, sometimes there is sexual chemistry between two sometimes is just one way, what I was trying to say is that if people would be open enough to accept the fact that they are attracted to a person and not to a gender, world would be much happier place to live in. Sure we have preferences, those preferences are mirror of who we have become in life and we are still changing with every decision we make. So, saying that we are all bisexual being that all of us have our options open, we did not limit ourselves only on tall blond guys (because that is what we are usually attracted to, or at least we think) because we are free to choose who we want to be with no matter of our previous partners. I am bisexual. I have never been with a woman. I am attracted to them, but timing in life was just not right. I am attracted to tall, skinny, geeky guys, but my partners in 60% were blond alpha guys, I was with them, eventhough I prefer something else, but that didn't matter.
Lets take you for example, you are married so its a bit odd to talk like this, but I am not suggesting anything, just making example. You are married, for life. Your life with your partner will change you, you will become a person different than you are now. But don't you think that in 30 years time, you might be knocked out by someone completely opposite than your SO is, just because of those changes.
We don't have other term for bisexuals, thats why I am using that term to express my views. I think no matter on our personal prefferences, we can sometimes end up with someone who we at least thought it would be possible and be happy. That is what I am saying, why limit ourselves with labels when we are changing constantly and our preferences as well.
On a side note, when I talk to people about bisexuallity, very straight alpha dudes have most difficulties to hear this theory out.

15 Dec 2013

Quote by slipperywhenwet2012

So saying all of humanity inherently fits into one category is a bit asinine.

No, lable, separate and limit ourselves, is a bit asinine.

15 Dec 2013

Quote by WSCLG

I am going to chime in, a bit late but I think valid opinion simply because of age, maturity and experience.

I think we all can be attracted to members of both sexes without cause. Does that make us bisexual or gay/lesbian? No. When it comes to sexuality I think attraction is mutual. I can say there are a number of men I am attracted to. Sexually even. Having said that, and having 'experimented' when I was younger, I prefer NOT to act on that feeling. That doesn't mean he/they are less attractive.

The same goes for ladies. There are a number of ladies I am very close to, attracted sexually to, but I choose NOT to act on those urges. Why? Simply because I prefer the friendship without the burden of dealing with the sexual situations that occur after.

But I think the human race as a whole can and should get over their ingrained (wonder where it all started - I would like to smack the shite out of them) inhibitions relating to human sexuality. Come on people, sex is good.

Exactly. It makes me wonder if people feel safer with all the lables we have on us? Do we really need to belong to certaing grup to feel loved, secured and appreciated?

15 Dec 2013

Quote by She

No, lable, separate and limit ourselves, is a bit asinine.

It's one thing to deny our desires. And of course there are people who are often in denial about their own sexuality. But it doesn't apply to the entire human race.

People who are beyond that point know what they do/don't like. Sex has no limits. Sticking to what you like doesn't mean you're limiting yourself. It just means you're embracing what you do desire. There's no sense in delving into something that holds no appeal for you. That's being something/someone you're not. And it leads to misery.

So yes, it's beyond asinine to assume that everyone desires same-sex encounters and are just fooling themselves if they say that they don't.

As far as labels go, some people hate them. And they have their reasons. As for me, I don't care. I'm bisexual because I've experienced and enjoy both sexes. To me, saying I'm bisexual is no different than saying I have brown eyes or curly hair. These are not just facts. It's a part of who I am. Saying my eyes are green when they're brown wouldn't be true to that. Although I appreciate green eyes in others, my eyes will always be brown. It doesn't make me any less open to other eye colors.

It's no different with sexuality. Just because someone doesn't experience sex and sexuality the same way you do doesn't mean they're limiting themselves. And as I've said before, it's asinine to apply your experiences with your own sexuality to everyone else. It just doesn't work that way.

"What is the quality of your intent?" - Thurgood Marshall

15 Dec 2013

Quote by slipperywhenwet2012

It's one thing to deny our desires. And of course there are people who are often in denial about their own sexuality. But it doesn't apply to the entire human race.

People who are beyond that point know what they do/don't like. Sex has no limits. Sticking to what you like doesn't mean you're limiting yourself. It just means you're embracing what you do desire. There's no sense in delving into something that holds no appeal for you. That's being something/someone you're not. And it leads to misery.

So yes, it's beyond asinine to assume that everyone desires same-sex encounters and are just fooling themselves if they say that they don't.

As far as labels go, some people hate them. And they have their reasons. As for me, I don't care. I'm bisexual because I've experienced and enjoy both sexes. To me, saying I'm bisexual is no different than saying I have brown eyes or curly hair. These are not just facts. It's a part of who I am. Saying my eyes are green when they're brown wouldn't be true to that. Although I appreciate green eyes in others, my eyes will always be brown. It doesn't make me any less open to other eye colors.

It's no different with sexuality. Just because someone doesn't experience sex and sexuality the same way you do doesn't mean they're limiting themselves. And as I've said before, it's asinine to apply your experiences with your own sexuality to everyone else. It just doesn't work that way.

ha, we nare not in 5th grade, I don't need people to go my way for all cause.
Obviously I am not making clear myself enough. The whole point of calling human race bisexual is because people do not desire same sex encounters, they are free to do whatever. Lets say you are lesbian, never been with a guy, never desired a guy. You are proud to be lesbian, you fought gay people battles. So, you meet a guy, but you don't see him as option because you are who you are. What I am saying is, peoples minds are tought, trained. Of course I am not saying you being a lesbian is something you trained yourself into, but sticking with it is. 8and please don't read this that I want to de-gay anyone)
people believed for a fact that earth is on giant turtle's back, and that was a fact. They believed it as absolute truth, until they were courageous enough to explore. We thought that agression is in our DNA, which has been proven that we learn how to be aggresive. We are changing on daily basis, why not give ourself a chance to explore when it comes as pleasurable as sex is. That is all I am saying. I am not judging no ones sexual choices or preferences, I am just saying that maybe there is more than we think we know.

15 Dec 2013

I agree with slipperywhenwet, your sexuality is just a part of you, straight people don't go around saying, "Hey everybody I'm heterosexual!" In the same way I don't see a need for LGBT people to advertise their orientation either. My friends know I like women as well as men but for me its about the person rather than their gender. I've felt attraction to men and women (and yes I have experience with both genders) but also have been attracted to transsexual/transgender. Does that sound strange? To me it isn't, the lady in question was born male and yes still had male genitalia though she has breasts, she lives as a woman however and so her personality attracted me rather than her "sex". Due to this I might associate myself more as being pansexual rather than bisexual, as in I like personality not gender however for me, using a label is unnecessary. My friends love and accept me as I am without question, people who care for me just want me to be happy and really that is what matters. I'm not ashamed of who I am, socially within college people know I'm "bisexual", I have expressed my feelings on my sexuality to family/family friends but due to my mothers' strict Christian faith she is adverse to homosexuality and so does want this to just be "confusion". I can't talk to her about it, I told her I had feelings for a female friend but she didn't want to believe it and since I have chosen not to raise the topic because sh.e does believe bisexuality to be caused by surplus sexual appetite. Well I'm not a nympho though I enjoy sex and for me, her opinion on sexuality isn't crucial. My dad thought me too young to define myself as a sexuality but is not opposed to it, my cousins are perfectly accepting of my sexuality. It only matters about "coming out" if it is important to you otherwise I may as well say, "I'm mixed race" as it is just a part of you. To "come out" though is brave and only something to do when you choose, I didn't plan to make it public knowledge and on my Facebook I still keep "INterested in men" as my orientation because really, it's no one else's business anyway.

15 Dec 2013

Quote by dpw

That is really fascinating. Where there no hiccups at all?

A few why's but nothing major.

19 Dec 2013

Quote by sprite

total BS. please, if you're going to post such blatant disinformation, back it up with facts, and no, that doesn't mean an opinion piece by someone with an agenda.

These articles are not the ones I read while ago, will have to dig a bit deeper for them, but they will show that homosexuality is not genetic. As I was saying in all my posts on this subject, nothing is 100%, we as human species are still learning and who knows what will scientists prove in coming decades.

http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647

http://io9.com/5967426/scientists-confirm-that-homosexuality-is-not-genetic--but-it-arises-in-the-womb

http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/new-insight-into-the-epigenetic-roots-of-homosexuality/

19 Dec 2013

Quote by She

These articles are not the ones I read while ago, will have to dig a bit deeper for them, but they will show that homosexuality is not genetic. As I was saying in all my posts on this subject, nothing is 100%, we as human species are still learning and who knows what will scientists prove in coming decades.

http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647

http://io9.com/5967426/scientists-confirm-that-homosexuality-is-not-genetic--but-it-arises-in-the-womb

http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/new-insight-into-the-epigenetic-roots-of-homosexuality/

This is exactly what I brought up in another thread but it just proves we are born what we are. Everyone is not bisexual, it's the epimarkers that define us, we can accept who we are or deny it but we know it.

19 Dec 2013

Quote by dpw

This is exactly what I brought up in another thread but it just proves we are born what we are. Everyone is not bisexual, it's the epimarkers that define us, we can accept who we are or deny it but we know it.

I don't know what you said in another thread, but in this one you didn't say much.
As I said few times, I used bisexual term to explain my theory, that we are not born to be predisposal to one gender. We are constantly changing and that by deffinition is something that you are open for all possibilities and thats why bisexualism.

19 Dec 2013

It's not me, it's them

20 Dec 2013

Quote by Kimasa
It's not me, it's them

20 Dec 2013

Quote by She

These articles are not the ones I read while ago, will have to dig a bit deeper for them, but they will show that homosexuality is not genetic. As I was saying in all my posts on this subject, nothing is 100%, we as human species are still learning and who knows what will scientists prove in coming decades.

http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647

http://io9.com/5967426/scientists-confirm-that-homosexuality-is-not-genetic--but-it-arises-in-the-womb

http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/new-insight-into-the-epigenetic-roots-of-homosexuality/

just so you are aware:

credentials. Dr Neil Whitehead is associated with NARTH, an association of mental health professionals who operate under the assumption that homosexual individuals who want to change, can change -- with counseling (or brainwashing).

your other examples back what i was referring to - epigenetic roots.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

27 Dec 2013

Quote by sprite

just so you are aware:

credentials. Dr Neil Whitehead is associated with NARTH, an association of mental health professionals who operate under the assumption that homosexual individuals who want to change, can change -- with counseling (or brainwashing).

your other examples back what i was referring to - epigenetic roots.

And the damage they do is absolutely frightening. I saw an interview with a guy whose parents forced him into counseling and he started cutting himself he was in so pain. Sexuality is NOT A CHOICE!!! Yes I am screaming.