Join the best erotica focused adult social network now
Login

Just noticed ANOTHER new story category... Mind Control

last reply
118 replies
5.4k views
0 watchers
0 likes
nicola
Matriarch
0 likes
I'm in the middle of moving house, but wanted to reply quickly.

I'm all in favour of keeping the badge, so those who really wish to challenge themselves, and maybe even force themselves into writing in a genre they don't know / like (a useful writing exercise in itself), can.

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?



They even use lush red!

Sound good?
Green_Man
Primus Omnium
0 likes
Quote by nicola
I'm in the middle of moving house, but wanted to reply quickly.

I'm all in favour of keeping the badge, so those who really wish to challenge themselves, and maybe even force themselves into writing in a genre they don't know / like (a useful writing exercise in itself), can.

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?



They even use lush red!

Sound good?


Yes, it s0unds g00d, Nic0la. By the way, send me a PM with the new address, if y0u please.
Unknown User
0 likes
Quote by nicola

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?


I like it. I'm not someone who is ever likely to achieve, or even try for, an omnium but I could probably hit 20 or even 30 fairly easily (I think I have achieved 10, but I'd need to check). But does this mean we have to drive on the wrong side of the road or something?
noll
"insensitive prick!" – Danielle Algo
0 likes
Quote by Just_A_Guy_You_Know
Announcing the new Canadian category:

Stories in this category are uniquely Canadian. They may feature polite sex, sex on the back of a dog-sled, sex in an igloo, sex in maple syrup and/or poutine, sex in a canoe, a three-way between Justin Trudeau, Justin Bieber, and a mountie, an unreasonable and mysterious devotion to the Toronto Maple Leafs, or bragging (sexily) about our socialized healthcare. However, to comply with Canada's language laws, all stories must be written in both English and French. And at the height of each climax, all characters should exclaim "Oh Canada!"


"Oh Canada!"? Shouldn't that be "Sorry!"?

Oh, and I'm afraid such category will not be very successful as most people will fear the chance of a Nickelback appearance (or Celine Dion for that matter, going up half a note by the time the story reaches it's climax ). I'm sure you'll admin that that would be a huge downer.


===  Not ALL LIVES MATTER until BLACK LIVES MATTER  ===

noll
"insensitive prick!" – Danielle Algo
0 likes
Quote by nicola
I'm in the middle of moving house, ...


Good luck in your new house!


===  Not ALL LIVES MATTER until BLACK LIVES MATTER  ===

adele
Weaver of Words
0 likes
Quote by nicola
I'm in the middle of moving house, but wanted to reply quickly.

I'm all in favour of keeping the badge, so those who really wish to challenge themselves, and maybe even force themselves into writing in a genre they don't know / like (a useful writing exercise in itself), can.

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?



They even use lush red!

Sound good?

Thanks nicola. I was kinda just thinking something similar to the author 50 and 100 badges, but incorporating the speed sign works too. I just hit 50 categories, so looking forward to five new badges! And good luck in the new digs.
LikeToWrite
Active Ink Slinger
0 likes
Quote by robertl
I want a square dance category. I suspect that one would be ALL MINE!

No Robert, it would not be all yours. You bring your partner and I’ll bring mine, and along with two other couples, we’ll do a ‘Head ladies in for a tea-cup chain’ and perhaps followed a bit later in the tip when everyone is in ‘Ocean waves’. we’ll try a ‘Spin chain exchange the gears’. If you are really a square dancer, you’ll know what I’m talking about.
If you're feeling bored during this Covid-19 epidemic I’d like to suggest
you take a peek at a story I collaborated with SueBrasil, a brilliant author.
It's about a mistake in judgment a lady makes concerning a friend, based
on the hurtful words of someone that only thinks of himself. Will that
conniving person succeed in ruining a beautiful friendship, or will she see
through his lies? It's gradually creeping up towards the 30,000 mark
and we’d love any votes or hearing whatever comments you may wish
to make. It is listed in my profile under ‘FAVOURITES’ as Apologize.

www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/apologize.aspx
Guest
Lurker
0 likes
Quote by seeker4


I like it. I'm not someone who is ever likely to achieve, or even try for, an omnium but I could probably hit 20 or even 30 fairly easily (I think I have achieved 10, but I'd need to check). But does this mean we have to drive on the wrong side of the road or something?


I believe masturbating with one's less dominate hand is also acceptable. Did you not get the memo?
Unknown User
0 likes
Quote by noll


"Oh Canada!"? Shouldn't that be "Sorry!"?

Oh, and I'm afraid such category will not be very successful as most people will fear the chance of a Nickelback appearance (or Celine Dion for that matter, going up half a note by the time the story reaches it's climax ). I'm sure you'll admin that that would be a huge downer.


I have a longstanding of dream of hooking Celine up with Chad Kroeger of Nickelback . In a story, that is, not for a song. Celine singing with Nickelback could probably cause a nuclear implosion of the Canadian music industry .
Unknown User
0 likes
Quote by Ping


I believe masturbating with one's less dominate hand is also acceptable. Did you not get the memo?


I've tried that, but then my right hand feels cheated on and threatens to sue for divorce.ECuDbibTTlU7fLpr
Buz
The Linebacker
0 likes
Quote by nicola
I'm in the middle of moving house, but wanted to reply quickly.

I'm all in favour of keeping the badge, so those who really wish to challenge themselves, and maybe even force themselves into writing in a genre they don't know / like (a useful writing exercise in itself), can.

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?



They even use lush red!

Sound good?


I'm on the bandwagon. I like that you are using Georgia Bulldog colors for the badge too.
Buz
The Linebacker
0 likes
Quote by Ping


I believe masturbating with one's less dominate hand is also acceptable. Did you not get the memo?


Doing that will make your dick grow crooked.

RumpleForeskin
The Right Rev of Lush
0 likes
Ping wrote:
I believe masturbating with one's less dominate hand is also acceptable. Did you not get the memo?

Buz wrotebiggrinoing that will make your dick grow crooked.

Me, I wrote: You mean to tell me that's what the 'Straight Sex' category is all about? ;)

RUMPLATIONS: AwesomeHonky Tonk and Cyber Bar
Home of the Lush "IN" crowd: indecent, intoxicated, and insolvent
a place to gossip, share news, talk sports, pimp a story, piss & moan, or just grab a drink. Check it out.

Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but do it in private and wash your hands afterwords. -- ROBERT HEINLEIN
Unknown User
0 likes
Quote by RumpleForeskin
Ping wrote:
I believe masturbating with one's less dominate hand is also acceptable. Did you not get the memo?

Buz wrotebiggrinoing that will make your dick grow crooked.

Me, I wrote: You mean to tell me that's what the 'Straight Sex' category is all about? ;)



NymphWriter
Unicorn Wrangler
0 likes
Quote by nicola
I'm in the middle of moving house, but wanted to reply quickly.

I'm all in favour of keeping the badge, so those who really wish to challenge themselves, and maybe even force themselves into writing in a genre they don't know / like (a useful writing exercise in itself), can.

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?



They even use lush red!

Sound good?


Once this is implemented it will be a great new badge and one for those who might not want to write in ALL categories for whatever reason, but can still earn a cool new badge.
patokl
Active Ink Slinger
0 likes
I like the ideas about that new badge, but I've been thinking about the actual topic of this thread, mind control, too.

A controlled mind isn't free to make its own decisions. Any consent, given as a result of mind control, is in fact coerced, because consent is only really consent, when given voluntarily. Sex with anyone whose mind is controlled is no more consensual than sex with an unconscious or an intoxicated person. I my humble opinion, it amounts to , and does not belong on lush.
A little kindness can be so valuable, yet costs almost nothing

In many countries being gay is a crime, and even in modern societies, politicians try to legalise discrimination. Your voice can make a difference. Have a look at All Out to find out how.

Hey... pssst.... that's an l (as in luscious) at the end of my name, not an i
adele
Weaver of Words
0 likes
Quote by Buz
For instance, if a person under no circumstances would be not be servile and kneel down and give a blow job, no amount of mind control will make them do it. Because that is way beyond their character. But if they do do it, then deep down they've harbored the desire to. The mind control brings that out. It is a latent part of their character.

There can be a host of reasons someone suppresses their desires such as peer pressure, religion, social standing, corporate hierarchy, etc. But deep inside those are things that they could do, so mind control brings that to the service.

It's the same concept as the prudish librarian that under the right circumstance becomes a sexual dynamo.

If we as story verifiers determine that a storyline and action in this genre is being written as , we'll reject that.

I can't explain it any better. The description of Mind Control that goes with the category seems to make perfect sense to me. If anyone doesn't understand the category or finds it repulsive, then they should avoid it. There are categories I do not write in because I wouldn't enjoy it. Just use common sense.

If someone desires an Omnium Badge enough to force themselves to write in all categories, even if they don't like them, then they've earned the Badge, at least until we add another category. Sorry, that's just how it is. It's actually a pretty good representation of how real life works.

After having read patokl's last post, and going back and rereading yours again, and I do have a comment about the bolded part of your statement. Someone given a ruffie not only has sex against their will, but most often do not even remember having had sex. By your definition, using that or similar drugs to make someone have sex basically means the person was not , because deep down, they wanted it.

I believe, based on parts of your explanation, there are ways to do this category safely, but I really think the description for it needs to be amended to include parts of your explanation to make it very clear what is and is not acceptable. I am sure the people verifying stories would rather have a very clear line about what is acceptable, and what is not beforehand rather than having to reject stories and/or answer the same questions a million times, or rely on people trying to find a thread about the subject that may or may not exist or is several years old and no longer active.
adele
Weaver of Words
0 likes
Quote by nicola
I'm in the middle of moving house, but wanted to reply quickly.

I'm all in favour of keeping the badge, so those who really wish to challenge themselves, and maybe even force themselves into writing in a genre they don't know / like (a useful writing exercise in itself), can.

Also, adding badges for publishing in 10, 20, 30 etc., categories. Perhaps incorporating the likes of the U.K. speed limits?

Just a clarification in view of this latest announcement. Does this statement you made in the other thread still hold true or not?

Quote by nicola
Quote by adele

I am still hoping nicola will make it (referring to the incest category) as optional, and I can get the (Omnium) badge without it

I think that's fair enough to be honest.
patokl
Active Ink Slinger
0 likes
Quote by Buz
For instance, if a person under no circumstances would be not be servile and kneel down and give a blow job, no amount of mind control will make them do it. Because that is way beyond their character. But if they do do it, then deep down they've harbored the desire to. The mind control brings that out. It is a latent part of their character.

There can be a host of reasons someone suppresses their desires such as peer pressure, religion, social standing, corporate hierarchy, etc. But deep inside those are things that they could do, so mind control brings that to the service.

It's the same concept as the prudish librarian that under the right circumstance becomes a sexual dynamo.

If we as story verifiers determine that a storyline and action in this genre is being written as , we'll reject that.

I can't explain it any better. The description of Mind Control that goes with the category seems to make perfect sense to me. If anyone doesn't understand the category or finds it repulsive, then they should avoid it. There are categories I do not write in because I wouldn't enjoy it. Just use common sense.

If someone desires an Omnium Badge enough to force themselves to write in all categories, even if they don't like them, then they've earned the Badge, at least until we add another category. Sorry, that's just how it is. It's actually a pretty good representation of how real life works.

I disagree. Even if the willingness to do something is a latent part of someone's character, only that person has the right to determine if, when, where and with whom that will be enacted. Many women love to have sex, yet to subject then to it when they have no control over their mind, for instance when they're drugged or drunk, is considered . Mind control takes away the ability to say no at least as much as alcohol and drugs do. Even when someone loves sex, subjecting them to it without their conscious consent is , no matter how you twist it.

The only way mind control would be acceptable, is when the subject explicitly consents to performing sexual acts under mind control, before that control is applied.

Edit:
Mind control can be defined as a coercive process to get an individual to think or act a certain way by impairing their ability to think independently. The idea is that it’s possible to manipulate an individual’s thinking, behavior, emotions or decisions through outside sources without their consent or intended cooperation. This is specifically achieved through indoctrination, removal of choices, physical confinement, drugs, etc.

Hypnosis is NOT “mind control” because it’s not a coercive process. Subjects have to cooperate with the hypnotist and remain aware or their actions. That you cannot make someone commit a violent crime under hypnosis however is a myth. First of all hypnosis CAN lower inhibitions (just like alcohol btw) and secondly, the subject might have little or no inhibitions about taking a life to begin with.

From a bbc article about hypnosis in psychological research
In the beginning of the 20th century two of the most prominent doctors in France, Jean-Martin Charcot, now considered the “founder of modern neurology”, and Georges Gilles de la Tourette, who is most famous for the disease that bears his name were studying cases of “hysteria” – in which patients were suddenly unable to feel or move their limbs, for instance, despite no observable injury. Both doctors believed that the disorders might share certain characteristics with hypnosis – a hypothesis they tested by showing that people with hysteria are more susceptible to suggestion than healthy subjects.
They soon veered into less reputable territory, however. At the time, newspapers reported tales of criminals “mesmerising” innocent people to carry out nefarious deeds. Despite his scepticism about the reports, Gilles de la Tourette decided to hypnotise a hysterical patient, Blanche, to see if it might be possible. Placing her in a trance, he showed Blanche a ‘poisoned’ glass of beer and asked to feed the poison to another man, known as Mr G. Blanche happily complied, kissing Mr G as she did so, before he feigned death. She later denied all knowledge of the apparent murder.
A little kindness can be so valuable, yet costs almost nothing

In many countries being gay is a crime, and even in modern societies, politicians try to legalise discrimination. Your voice can make a difference. Have a look at All Out to find out how.

Hey... pssst.... that's an l (as in luscious) at the end of my name, not an i
Unknown User
0 likes
Quote by patokl
I like the ideas about that new badge, but I've been thinking about the actual topic of this thread, mind control, too.

A controlled mind isn't free to make its own decisions. Any consent, given as a result of mind control, is in fact coerced, because consent is only really consent, when given voluntarily. Sex with anyone whose mind is controlled is no more consensual than sex with an unconscious or an intoxicated person. I my humble opinion, it amounts to , and does not belong on lush.


I have to throw down with patokl on this point. The standard needs to be that there is explicit consent to being mind controlled and even a limit to what the controller can make the controllee do. Just as in BDSM, where there must be explicit consent to being tied up and whipped and a safe word that immediately withdraws that consent. Not that I'm planning to write a mind control story myself, but I think anything less creates a double standard where you can use Mind Control as a "get out of consent free" card.
RejectReality
Testing The Waters.
0 likes
I think adding this category is only going to result in angst, as is already well demonstrated in this thread, without much benefit.

The type of stories that are going to be accepted aren't going to push the buttons of the mind control readership. They're looking for stories where people do things they wouldn't do if free to choose — non-consent. The readership is split down the middle on most sites. Half want to see the victim remember nothing of what happened, and half want them to remember every detail in horror afterward.

The 'awakening suppressed desires' angle is met with a tepid response, at best. The more you stress that, the less the readership responds. The level I would estimate is going to be the bar here is so far below the readership's expectations that I expect the category is going to be largely ignored.

It's going to result in a category with very few stories and even less traffic when I look in my crystal ball.

When you consider the resistance already evident in this thread, I don't think the scales even remotely balance.

The reinstated I.F. category generates much the same response here on the forum, but the difference is that the type of stories Lush will accept — I.E. fully consensual storylines — are exactly what that readership is looking for. That readership strongly frowns on non-con. The category already has solid readership that is likely to expand exponentially over time. It benefits the site.

I think Mind Control is just going to take up space.

I'm personally fine with the type of story I think will be accepted, which will involve the character on the receiving end being relived to have broken through their hang-ups to experience something they wanted deep down. Happily ever after. It's firmly on the reluctance side of the reluctance/non-con scale to me. I'll probably write one eventually in my ever-so-slow quest for Omnium.
Guest
Lurker
0 likes
Quote by RejectReality
I think adding this category is only going to result in angst, as is already well demonstrated in this thread, without much benefit.



I agree with that, RR. The angst is killing the fun, though. There's no fun on this site any more.

People are too caught up in American politics. People are too caught up in earning badges. Something as simple as a mind control category pops up and everybody starts fretting over it. It's not about stories any more. It's not about enjoying yourself any more.

The people who know how to kick back and have fun on this site left a long time ago, and all the new categories in the world ins't gonna bring them back. I know people don't wonna hear this, but the only way to revive this place is to be rid of the old and welcome the new -- but that's not gonna happen.
adele
Weaver of Words
0 likes
I got my answer about the Omnium Badge. Thank you Nicola
adele
Weaver of Words
0 likes
I actually do have some ideas for new genres...
Food (use of fruit and veggies as well as things like whipped cream, syrup and honey, etc)
Lactation (mentioned earlier, but adding to this list)
Pregnancy (having sex with pregnant women)
Promiscuity (aka... Sluts - male and female)
Vehicle sex (could give a whole new meaning to tailgating)

From a friend... Cosplay, Furries and Threesomes
Buz
The Linebacker
0 likes
Announcement!

All of my Forum posts since 2014 have been under Sprite's mind control.

nicola
Matriarch
0 likes
Quote by BigGarrett


I agree with that, RR. The angst is killing the fun, though. There's no fun on this site any more.

People are too caught up in American politics. People are too caught up in earning badges. Something as simple as a mind control category pops up and everybody starts fretting over it. It's not about stories any more. It's not about enjoying yourself any more.

The people who know how to kick back and have fun on this site left a long time ago, and all the new categories in the world ins't gonna bring them back. I know people don't wonna hear this, but the only way to revive this place is to be rid of the old and welcome the new -- but that's not gonna happen.


Interesting views from someone who's supposedly only been a member for just over a month?

I think you'll find that the 2.5 million people who visit the site each month, might beg to differ with you. Nice attempt at knocking the site, nonetheless!

You have to remember, the forums are only a microcosm within the site. The majority of our visitors, don't even visit them. Out of 6.7 million unique monthly pageviews for example, 29,000 have been to the forums.
Guest
Lurker
0 likes
Quote by nicola


Interesting views from someone who's supposedly only been a member for just over a month?

I think you'll find that the 2.5 million people who visit the site each month, might beg to differ with you. Nice attempt at knocking the site, nonetheless!

You have to remember, the forums are only a microcosm within the site. The majority of our visitors, don't even visit them. Out of 6.7 million unique monthly pageviews for example, 29,000 have been to the forums.


I wasn't attempting to knock the site. I was merely stating a fact. It's like a ghost town on here compared to a few years ago. It's evident in all sections of the site.

Something doesn't add up with what you say. Over the past 4 years, this site has taken a hardline stance against anything to do with incest and non-consent stories. Even imposing a complete ban on even spelling the words out. So why make the drastic decision to introduce incest and non-consent with the mind control category, knowing full well that all your long-standing members will be offended by it?

It's either a desperate attempt to increase traffic, or a successful attempt at pissing off all the long-serving members of the site.
patokl
Active Ink Slinger
0 likes
Quote by BigGarrett


I wasn't attempting to knock the site. I was merely stating a fact. It's like a ghost town on here compared to a few years ago. It's evident in all sections of the site.

Something doesn't add up with what you say. Over the past 4 years, this site has taken a hardline stance against anything to do with incest and non-consent stories. Even imposing a complete ban on even spelling the words out. So why make the drastic decision to introduce incest and non-consent with the mind control category, knowing full well that all your long-standing members will be offended by it?

It's either a desperate attempt to increase traffic, or a successful attempt at pissing off all the long-serving members of the site.

Your assumptions are based on nothing. Nicola made it perfectly clear why the incest category was reinstated. And while there where members who objected and even one or two left, there were also members who were pleased. The most common reaction was from members, who didn't like it, but understood and accepted the necessity.

As for the mind control category, opinions differ about it being about non-consent. Regardless of my opinion, the discussion about that is still open.

Anyhow, your assessment that Nicola offended all the longstanding members by the introduction is wrong, of that I'm sure.
A little kindness can be so valuable, yet costs almost nothing

In many countries being gay is a crime, and even in modern societies, politicians try to legalise discrimination. Your voice can make a difference. Have a look at All Out to find out how.

Hey... pssst.... that's an l (as in luscious) at the end of my name, not an i
nicola
Matriarch
0 likes
Quote by BigGarrett
It's either a desperate attempt to increase traffic, or a successful attempt at pissing off all the long-serving members of the site.


It makes sense as a site owner, to look at your competitors once in a while, and make sure you are offering surfers / members, what a lot of them want. There's no desperation to it at all. It's common business practice. We went a step further, and decided to throw some new categories into the mix, to make the site more interesting, and draw in a wider audience.

For anyone who is wondering how much credibility "BigGarrett" has, this is the question he posted previously, under his "TabbysTales" username (which was deleted):



You'll need to zoom in to read it - or just go here: https://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postsm2799257_Can-my-story-feature-a-mother-teaching-her-daughter.aspx

Seems to have a bee in his bonnet about the Incest Fantasies section, and our ruling on a story he was proposing.

Yawn.

Let's keep on topic shall we?

Yes, it's a contentious category. Will it stay? Yes.

This wasn't supposed to be open for discussion from the start.

If the category becomes really problematic, we'll readdress, as we always do.