Multiple Accounts are disallowed

26 Jul 2010

Can I set up multiple accounts?

No. Members are not permitted to have multiple Lushstories.com accounts. Please limit your site membership to one account only. Having multiple accounts is an unnecessary use of resources. Further, it may be interpreted as trolling behavior. Subsequent accounts set up by a member may be deleted by our admins without warning.

I can't think of any legitimate reason someone would have multiple accounts on here, it's normally a sign of someone who's been banned, comes back under a new IP, and hurriedly sets up several accounts in case they get banned too.

26 Jul 2010

You know how to deal with trolls? A +4 Flaming broadsword of the Jackal! lol sorry.... Nerd moment there...

Anyhoo. Why would someone set up multiple accounts? simple really. so they can talk to themselves! ^_^

27 Jul 2010

A 4 plus what now? dontknow

We have a few troublemakers who are banned regularly, keep coming back with new IP addresses and half a dozen new accounts each time. They pull the same

, harrass members etc, until they are inevitable found and banned again.

I am writing to their ISP's to get them banned from accessing our site, cyber harrassment is a serious offence. The trouble is, there's nothing stopping persistent whackjobs from going to a local internet cafe and starting it all up again.

Heaven knows the amount of psychos and stalkers that must roam around sites like Facebook and Myspace. They must have entire departments to deal with them.

27 Jul 2010

Because there are members on lush that judge people for their forum posts simply because they dont like the person posting it. Some people have two accounts to avoid bitchiness or flameball feedback for no reason really.

27 Jul 2010

Quote by Nimaethap
Because there are members on lush that judge people for their forum posts simply because they dont like the person posting it. Some people have two accounts to avoid bitchiness or flameball feedback for no reason really.

That be as it may, the problem still exists, and it is *generally* associated with people who deliberately cause trouble in the chat rooms and harrass other members.

If someone can explain why they have 2 accounts and give a legitimate reason, both accounts may be left to stay, but if it's 3+, then we are obviously dealing with someone who knows some of their accounts are going to be terminated for a reason.

27 Jul 2010

I hardly see the likelihood of anyone going "Hi Nicola, I have this secret account because I feel harassed by so and so." It seems to defeat the purpose of having an extra account if someone with authority knows about it... but ok.

27 Jul 2010

I am not asking people to volunteer if they have multiple usernames. I am only looking up people who cause trouble, or trying to cheat the scoring system etc, and cross referencing their IP addresses against our database.

27 Jul 2010

Just when I think I've heard it all........ dontknow

It's all I can do to look after my one username/account never mind have time for multiple personalities. coffee

Keep up the good work Nicola.

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27 Jul 2010

Ok you caught me.... I'm actually Roccotool and gav... lol I'm kidding. is there any way to find these people who have already been banned?

27 Jul 2010

Quote by Nimaethap
I hardly see the likelihood of anyone going "Hi Nicola, I have this secret account because I feel harassed by so and so." It seems to defeat the purpose of having an extra account if someone with authority knows about it... but ok.

Actually, I usually post under a different name, but set up this one because I WAS being stalked and harassed when I was signed in with my other user name.

It isn't about someone with authority knowing about it, as I am low profile, adult and responsible, but about being able to sign in, read stories, post comments and so on, without being hit with pop-up messages and other forms of annoyance.

27 Jul 2010

That's fair enough deltablues. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I'd like to have a totally "invisible" setting to combat that - I know you can set your settings to away, but you are still contactable in pop up messages, people can see your name in the forum listing and so on.

28 Jul 2010

some of the new phpbbb boards have options that allows the user to disable being seen in the forum list of people online, except for admins, who can see everyone. But that means going from ASP to PhP at least for the forums. Just throwing that out there.

29 Jul 2010

Quote by nicola
Can I set up multiple accounts?

No. Members are not permitted to have multiple Lushstories.com accounts. Please limit your site membership to one account only. Having multiple accounts is an unnecessary use of resources. Further, it may be interpreted as trolling behavior. Subsequent accounts set up by a member may be deleted by our admins without warning.

I can't think of any legitimate reason someone would have multiple accounts on here, it's normally a sign of someone who's been banned, comes back under a new IP, and hurriedly sets up several accounts in case they get banned too.

Now we know that there are multiple legitimate reasons for having multiple accounts...

29 Jul 2010

We're looking into the possibility of being able to surf totally anonymous. I've asked Gav to see how hard it would be to change the forum code so your name isn't visible in that bottom member listing.

I fail to see how having 2 accounts would prevent people giving you "bitchiness or flameball feedback" - unless they were gunning for you.

29 Jul 2010

If someone is flaming you then block them...simple really...they can't contact you or send you messages etc

29 Jul 2010

This subject came up last year somewhere else...two people on here, whose names I won't mention, got banned for setting up female personas and writing as a female...that in itself would not be a big issue, but they were chatting with women and not letting on that they were really a man...shades of my story "SilkPanties22"...
Anyway, the site issued a PM to every member stating this...it was titled "Fantasy VS. Deception"...
Here is a quote:

I just wanted to take a quick moment to clarify our current policy regarding the use of multiple ***** accounts. I also wanted to briefly clarify fantasy versus deception.

The ability to use multiple ****** accounts was intended ONLY to allow members to explore their various fantasies with greater privacy. For example, if a bisexual male wanted to write about his "straight" fantasies under one account and his "gay" fantasies under a second account, this would be allowed.

What is not allowed is blatantly posing as someone you're not -- man, woman, or otherwise. This is particularly true once you venture outside of writing fantasies and begin communicating with other ****** members.

Fantasy does not mean deception. Being a part of ****** means that you are entitled to share as much (or as little) information about yourself as you'd like while writing about your personal sexual fantasies. Non-writers are also welcome, of course, to chat and e-mail with other members.

We have automated systems in place to check for most signs of abuse, including duplicate accounts, voting abuse, and more. The use of multiple accounts to vote multiple times on the same fantasy is also NOT allowed. Our systems will automatically detect and alert us to this behavior, and this can result in ALL of the accounts in question being closed.

****** is an adult site: for adults, by adults; as such, we expect a certain level of adult-like conduct from our members. The ****** staff does not find policing the site for "bad apples" enjoyable nor a constructive use of our time. That said, we will not hesitate to remove members unable to follow our rules. ****** is run with the best interest of all ****** members as a community in mind, and we will not allow a handful of troublemakers to ruin the experience for the rest of our members.

Well, anyway...you get the idea...
Not going to mention any names, but one of the guys involved did post a story he originally posted under his "female" name...but, it is posted under his original "male" persona name here on Lush...
I think he learned...well, I'll shut up...

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29 Jul 2010

I can empathise with their admins Exakta, thanks for posting.

29 Jul 2010

Why do members feel the need to make multiple accounts? I have found it hard to just keep up with the one I have right now. How do members do it, or even more, Why do they do it? No one has to answer it, I guess its just me thinking out-loud. I see the whole, creating multiple accounts, as a deceiving move, and its SO wrong. I think its a good thing that it is is not allowed!

30 Jul 2010

Quote by Loislane
If someone is flaming you then block them...simple really...they can't contact you or send you messages etc

I think what Nimaethap is referring to is the forums.... You cannot block someone for replying/flaming to a thread you have replied in or started.

Quote by PrincessWriter
Why do members feel the need to make multiple accounts? I see the whole, creating multiple accounts, as a deceiving move, and its SO wrong.

Not so... here are two good reasons I can think of....

1. As mentioned... to be able to surf the site and not be hit with online messages ALL the time and not feel as though you have to hide (block all) and to be able to surf 'online'.... There are some days where people do not feel like talking and opening another account could be the solution.... No more "what have I done" or "why won't you talk to me" messages appearing all the time.... 'Block all' feature is great until you go into the threads themselves ~ then your name appears down the bottom or when you post in the forums, then friends know you are online because you appear in their recent activities.... Another way to combat this problem is just delete all your friends... end of problem.

2. A well known author may want to venture out and write a story that he/she may feel that it will project negativity on their good name...

30 Jul 2010

It's still an abuse of system resources to make multiple accounts, no matter what the reason is.

Whether you're Person A or Person B, you will get the occasional stranger wanting to contact you on here. It's one of the hazards for any social adult site. It goes with the territory. Constantly avoiding people by opening one new name after another is an abuse of this site and is quite frankly deception.

We've gone over the voting system's shortcomings. It has nothing to do with a person's integrity. A person in good standing here should have no need to duck anything or create a Flushie. Creating a story that's against site rules will result in an author's multiple accounts getting banned.

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30 Jul 2010

Quote by roccotool
It's still an abuse of system resources to make multiple accounts, no matter what the reason is.

Whether you're Person A or Person B, you will get the occasional stranger wanting to contact you on here. It's one of the hazards for any social adult site. It goes with the territory. Constantly avoiding people by opening one new name after another is an abuse of this site and is quite frankly deception.

We've gone over the voting system's shortcomings. It has nothing to do with a person's integrity. A person in good standing here should have no need to duck anything or create a Flushie. Creating a story that's against site rules will result in an author's multiple accounts getting banned.

The Block feature works. Live it, learn it, love it.

You misunderstood me completely.... firstly, i was referring to what deltablues wrote about her being harassed and stalked and Nic did say she was ok with that... I was only giving an example to PrincessWriter. I do agree if a person feels the need to open 3 or more accounts, then yes, it is abusing the system.

Secondly... I was NOT talking about a story that would go against the site rules... I was simply saying that a 'love poem' author may want to open another account to protect his good name and write 'BDSM' or 'Reluctance' stories etc....

31 Jul 2010

Quote by nicola
I can empathise with their admins Exakta, thanks for posting.

Thanks Nicola...I know you are not a big fan of me talking about "other" sites, but this was a huge issue and became quite ugly late last year "over there"...I think you should address it more specifically, especially since you stated in another thread that you prefer if couples set up separate accounts. Fair enough, but since couples sometimes share an e-mail address, and if you allow multiple accounts on the same e-mail you are opening up a potential can of worms...you have to have certain definite restrictions...
What happened over at the site I started on was that Wayne and Art felt that stories written by women got more views votes, and therefore higher ratings. Both are excellent writers...both are recipients of Editor Picks here on Lush, for instance, but neither had made the "Hottest Author" list on that site...
Wayne in particular is very competitive, him and I are competitive in sort of a friendly way...the whole reason I am writing a novel at the moment is because he is off writing one...that's another story...
Anyway, Wayne created Josie and Art created Annie...as Wayne predicted, he was able to take Josie all the way to number one on the Hottest Author list, Art had less success...(btw, Wayne is the only person I know of who made the top spot as both a man and a woman)...
Everything was fine until Wayne started to chat with women and not revealing that he was actually a man. He somehow "slipped" during a chat and used his real "male" name...this is what caused the scandal...(He has been locked out of four accounts "over there" but has been good here...I think he may have learned, and he really likes Lush)...
Anyway, after this became public, it got to a point where every female on the site became suspect. Any story that was particularly "hot"...ie appealed strongly to men, became suspect...there were comments left on girl's stories like "OK, which guy are you?"...it became a nightmare....
One of the women who was on the Hottest Author list there got her account disabled because someone spread the rumor that she was actually a guy...she had to "prove" that she was indeed a female before being allowed back on....
It was after it got quite ugly, and very bad for business, that the site issued the above PM which I posted an excerpt of....
It is understood that you cannot prevent multiple accounts no matter what you do...if you block IP addresses, people will just use their work computer, etc...but, they must be restricted...
There are very legit reasons for multiple accounts. After that PM was issued, I created another account myself...I actually have three on the site I started on, Exakta66, 67Goat and BrianDamage...
I created 67Goat after carefully reading the above PM because I had ideas for stories set in the sixties, with 60's cars, music, etc and I am not old enough. I wanted to write them in first person, since I don't write well in third, so I created Gary aka 67Goat who is currently a 63-year-old married male. My three original story ideas were "A Night To Remember" "Love And Haight" and "By The Time We Got To Woodstock" (never written) set in 1965, 67 and '69 respectively...it also allowed me to write poems like "To My Wife" and "Happy Anniversay" which I would not have felt comfortable writing otherwise, since I am not actually married...
I created BrianDamage after writing my four part story for Lush, because doesn't go over well on the site I started on...Brian became sort of the deviant side, Gary the romantic....
Anyway, the site is very aware of my multiple accounts as are most of the people who know me there. What they did was disable my chat privelages for Gary and Brian. I can only chat using my Exaka66 account. This assures I will not try chat up anyone pretending I am a 63-year-old man...lol...
I am sure you are aware that people will do things that are not ncessarily right...I know, hard to believe on an adult site like this...but if you allow the option of multiple accounts without chat and PM privelegs, it may prevent a lot of damage...the other site talked about disabling PM's as well for multiple accounts.
I think any writer who has been writing for a while tends to start to think "outside the box" so to speak. I know Wayne has well over 50 stories, even if he only has a dozen or so on Lush, and Art probably has written that many as well. I know of another author on here who created a female persona as well, but it was never a big issue...apparently he never chatted...
Wayne issued sort of a "letter of apology" on the other site, but at the end of the letter he admitted how hot it was to chat with women without their knowing he was actually a guy...that letter got pulled from the site and he got locked out of his fourth account there...
I could go on, but it is something you have to give some thought to, and have very definite rules...
Later,
Alan.
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2 Aug 2010

I had a 65 Goat

8 Aug 2010

recently - I seem to have stumbled on 2 similar accounts by a couple ... 2 for her, 2 for him ... of course, I may be incorrect. They seem to be married to each other ... one set devoted to each other, and the other set the same. Maybe it's role playing?? I just can't figure out why someone feels they need to have 2 accounts - as both seem to echo the other set ....

weird coffee

( stepping around very carefully - could be a messy situation )

Van

8 Aug 2010

Quote by VanGogh
recently - I seem to have stumbled on 2 similar accounts by a couple ... 2 for her, 2 for him ... of course, I may be incorrect. They seem to be married to each other ... one set devoted to each other, and the other set the same. Maybe it's role playing?? I just can't figure out why someone feels they need to have 2 accounts - as both seem to echo the other set ....

weird

( stepping around very carefully - could be a messy situation )

Van

If it is who I am thinking of... she had at least 4 accounts set up, not sure about him.... but as you said... it could be role playing as she did state on one of his profiles that 4 girls were after him and as far as I could tell... all 4 were her.

8 Aug 2010

Quote by Harmony
Quote by VanGogh
recently - I seem to have stumbled on 2 similar accounts by a couple ... 2 for her, 2 for him ... of course, I may be incorrect. They seem to be married to each other ... one set devoted to each other, and the other set the same. Maybe it's role playing?? I just can't figure out why someone feels they need to have 2 accounts - as both seem to echo the other set ....

weird

( stepping around very carefully - could be a messy situation )

Van

If it is who I am thinking off... she had at least 4 accounts set up, not sure about him.... but as you said... it could be role playing as she did state on one of his profiles that 4 girls were after him.

oh thank god!! here I was thinking I was nuts or something .... so I wonder why, if it is indeed correctly assumed, that it continues ......

questions that make you go ... dontknow

8 Aug 2010

Quote by VanGogh
Quote by Harmony
Quote by VanGogh
recently - I seem to have stumbled on 2 similar accounts by a couple ... 2 for her, 2 for him ... of course, I may be incorrect. They seem to be married to each other ... one set devoted to each other, and the other set the same. Maybe it's role playing?? I just can't figure out why someone feels they need to have 2 accounts - as both seem to echo the other set ....

weird

( stepping around very carefully - could be a messy situation )

Van

If it is who I am thinking off... she had at least 4 accounts set up, not sure about him.... but as you said... it could be role playing as she did state on one of his profiles that 4 girls were after him.

oh thank god!! here I was thinking I was nuts or something .... so I wonder why, if it is indeed correctly assumed, that it continues ......

questions that make you go ...

It can be a slippery slope... first you break one rule, and then you start... breaking others... Whistle

8 Aug 2010

Quote by Dancing_Doll
Quote by VanGogh
Quote by Harmony
Quote by VanGogh
recently - I seem to have stumbled on 2 similar accounts by a couple ... 2 for her, 2 for him ... of course, I may be incorrect. They seem to be married to each other ... one set devoted to each other, and the other set the same. Maybe it's role playing?? I just can't figure out why someone feels they need to have 2 accounts - as both seem to echo the other set ....

weird

( stepping around very carefully - could be a messy situation )

Van

If it is who I am thinking off... she had at least 4 accounts set up, not sure about him.... but as you said... it could be role playing as she did state on one of his profiles that 4 girls were after him.

oh thank god!! here I was thinking I was nuts or something .... so I wonder why, if it is indeed correctly assumed, that it continues ......

questions that make you go ...

It can be a slippery slope... first you break one rule, and then you start... breaking others...

I sometimes have the urge to agree with others in ALL CAPS- but then I come to my senses.PWVP3lWOA3wEmRV0 Without talking to her about it, I'm pretty sure I've noticed the same ones as Van.

8 Aug 2010

Quote by LadyX

I sometimes have the urge to agree with others in ALL CAPS- but then I come to my senses.3WVwY3SVSnMrM3n4 Without talking to her about it, I'm pretty sure I've noticed the same ones as Van.

LOL... You know, CAPS really do hurt the eyes ... maybe I need a shot of something to ease the pain... but that belongs in another box... now back to living my solitary life in the hole in the mountain.

8 Aug 2010

I know I have probably written way too much on this thread...but, I seriously think that Lush should consider the option of offering multiple accounts on the same e-mail address without voting and chat privelages.
This way, if someone wants to write stories as the opposite sex or gay, or whatever, they can...but will not be able to chat pretending they are something they are not...
It would also prevent them from voting on their own stories with their "other" account...
I agree with LadyX about the slippery slope...I really don't think some of the people who set up other accounts originally intended to chat...it just sort of happened...

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