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Do you believe in psychics?

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As the Nun says, reading a person and using intuition is a large part of what I've observed in those who claim to have that talent.

Though with those of us who are, shall we say, different - their 'ability' fails them and they make all sorts of interesting excuses.

Personally, I do not believe in the innate talent to go beyond - smoke and mirrors is my personal opinion on this.
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No, I do not, nor will I ever. One got lucky with you, and now you gotta to another. There is no real way to tell the future. You can just see something really obvious coming, like knowing who is calling before you look at the phone. Although, a lot of other things can't be seen. We all just have to give it some credit, because there are so many, but it doesn't change the fact that it is all BS.
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A big fat no. Most people who claim to be genuine psychics are simply experts in a technique called "cold reading", which is a fancinating skill, that uses subtle body language and kenetic function/reactions to read people, without having an prior information about them. Cold Reading is not being a phychic, it simply gives the impression of being a psychic, it's actually a skill that everybody can learn if they invest time in it.

I am a huge fan of Derren Brown though, although he does these sorts of things, he isn't a psychic and doesn't claim to be. He is an illusionist, mentalist and hypnotist, which are quite different things. Same story goes for Astrology, absolute nonsense.
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But I'm a homebody and a cancer. Doesn't that prove something?
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Do you believe in psychics? Can they know the future?


I personally know a few psychics. One of them was doing a reading on my chart, stopped reading aloud, blushed deeply, hummed and hawed a bit, then concluded a little too abruptly, I thought. She must have been reading about my propensity for oral sex with other men.
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Telling the future, I think not. If it were so all presidents would use them. Oh wait maybe it was Dion Warwick that told Bush Iraq had WMD's.
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No. If psychic phenomenons really existed, they would have been studied at least a bit by science and people wouldn't need to 'believe' in them, they would simply acknowledge them as a reality.
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No, at least not in the way that they can read your future at will. I believe in the possibility of a vague telepathy where a brain can receive some impression from another brain is certain situation, like when you see a picture or hear a song for the first time and you feel you’ve seen it or heard it before.
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No. If psychic phenomenons really existed, they would have been studied at least a bit by science and people wouldn't need to 'believe' in them, they would simply acknowledge them as a reality.


They have been studied, extensively! People have been trying since the 1800s to define and harness: sixth sense, psychic phenomenon, universal conscience and all manner of paranormal abilities...

Parapsychology is studied in numerous countries throughout the world and has been for a very long time. There are quite famous incidences of "the powers that be" conducting research and experiments to try and find a way to turn such things into weapons or just to generally load the deck in their favour. (I mean like the CIA, Ministry of Defence et al)

This link is quite interesting, but a google search brings up some really fascinating stuff, if you're interested:

http://www.exploringpsychics.com/articles/psychics/government-psychic-experiments

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

I really dislike the use of such things for pure entertainment (I mean the whole talking to dead relatives stuff, on platform/stage) and I feel that it can really preys on the vulnerable, however, I have no doubt of its existence.

People have already made excellent points about cold reading. One of the best people to use this to his advantage and expose the fakers is Derren Brown (I actually don't like him much, but I very much admire his talent at what he does - He has done some truly amazing stuff over the years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_brown

I'd really urge you to check out some of his stuff - I guarantee your mind will be blown
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They have been studied, extensively! People have been trying since the 1800s to define and harness: sixth sense, psychic phenomenon, universal conscience and all manner of paranormal abilities...

Parapsychology is studied in numerous countries throughout the world and has been for a very long time. There are quite famous incidences of "the powers that be" conducting research and experiments to try and find a way to turn such things into weapons or just to generally load the deck in their favour. (I mean like the CIA, Ministry of Defence et al)

This link is quite interesting, but a google search brings up some really fascinating stuff, if you're interested:

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or

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I really dislike the use of such things for pure entertainment (I mean the whole talking to dead relatives stuff, on platform/stage) and I feel that it can really preys on the vulnerable, however, I have no doubt of its existence.

People have already made excellent points about cold reading. One of the best people to use this to his advantage and expose the fakers is Derren Brown (I actually don't like him much, but I very much admire his talent at what he does - He has done some truly amazing stuff over the years)

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I'd really urge you to check out some of his stuff - I guarantee your mind will be blown


Thanks Mazza, I will check them out.
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Thanks Mazza, I will check them out.


Are you trying to read my mind Laura, lol.. We can read them together
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They have been studied, extensively! People have been trying since the 1800s to define and harness: sixth sense, psychic phenomenon, universal conscience and all manner of paranormal abilities...

Parapsychology is studied in numerous countries throughout the world and has been for a very long time. There are quite famous incidences of "the powers that be" conducting research and experiments to try and find a way to turn such things into weapons or just to generally load the deck in their favour. (I mean like the CIA, Ministry of Defence et al)

This link is quite interesting, but a google search brings up some really fascinating stuff, if you're interested:

http://www.exploringpsychics.com/articles/psychics/government-psychic-experiments

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

I really dislike the use of such things for pure entertainment (I mean the whole talking to dead relatives stuff, on platform/stage) and I feel that it can really preys on the vulnerable, however, I have no doubt of its existence.

People have already made excellent points about cold reading. One of the best people to use this to his advantage and expose the fakers is Derren Brown (I actually don't like him much, but I very much admire his talent at what he does - He has done some truly amazing stuff over the years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_brown

I'd really urge you to check out some of his stuff - I guarantee your mind will be blown


Scientists tried to study parapsychology, but the studies consisted mostly of trying to prove the very existence of such phenomenons rather than explaining them after they were observed objectively. Claims were made, scientists tried to verify them, but the researches were very inconclusive. Despite our modern scientific culture and extensive trials regarding such phenomenons, parapsychology is still at the embryonic state of being nothing more than a popular belief.

Microscopic insects living in the depths of the Amazon Jungle have been observed and classified by scientists, yet parapsychology was never demonstrated to even exist under controlled environments, and no theories that would explain why and how such phenomenons could occur were ever established. It is very much a pseudoscience, isolated from the rest of the scientific culture. The few trials that offered conclusive results are regarded as being very biased and questionnable by the rest of the scientific community.

From Wikipedia (Parapsychology) :

"Scientists critical of parapsychology state that its extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence if they are to be taken seriously.[90] Many analysts of parapsychology hold that the entire body of evidence to date is of poor quality and not adequately controlled. In their view, parapsychology has not produced conclusive results. In support of this view, critics cite instances of fraud, flawed studies, and cognitive biases (such as clustering illusion, availability error, confirmation bias, illusion of control, magical thinking, and the bias blind spot)[91] as ways to explain parapsychological results.[92] Skeptics have also contended that people's desire to believe in paranormal phenomena causes them to discount strong evidence that it does not exist.[93]

The existence of parapsychological phenomena and the scientific validity of parapsychological research is disputed by independent evaluators and researchers. In 1988, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences published a report on the subject that concluded that "no scientific justification from research conducted over a period of 130 years for the existence of parapsychological phenomena."[94] In the same report, however, they also recommended monitoring some parapsychological research, such as psychokinesis on random number generators and ganzfeld effects, for possible future studies.[94] The studies at the PEAR lab, recommended for monitoring by the report, have since concluded. These studies likewise failed to elicit a positive response by the scientific community despite numerous trials.[34] A 2008 study tested participants repeatedly for 90 minutes in a magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) environment and showed no detectable psi effect, no baseline measure outside of the fMRI was collected for comparison.[91]

Additionally, the methods of parapsychologists are regarded by critics, including those who wrote the science standards for the California State Board of Education,[95] to be pseudoscientific.[96] Some of the more specific criticisms state that parapsychology does not have a clearly defined subject matter, an easily repeatable experiment that can demonstrate a psi effect on demand, nor an underlying theory to explain the paranormal transfer of information.[97] James E. Alcock, Professor of Psychology at York University [98][99][100][101] stated that few of parapsychology's experimental results have prompted interdisciplinary research with more mainstream sciences such as physics or biology, and that parapsychology remains an isolated science to such an extent that its very legitimacy is questionable,[102] and as a whole is not justified in being labeled "scientific".[103] Many in the scientific community consider parapsychology a pseudoscience as they claim it continues to explore the hypothesis that psychic abilities exist despite a century of experimental results that fail to conclusively demonstrate that hypothesis.[14] Richard Wiseman has criticized the parapsychological community for widespread errors in research methods including cherry-picking new procedures which may produce preferred results, explaining away unsuccessful attempted replications with claims of an "experimenter effect", data mining, and Retrospective data selection.[104] Whilst Richard Wiseman considers remote viewing to be proven by the current standards of scientific endeavour, he uses this to call for higher standard of evidence when studying the paranormal.
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The project that was conducted by the U.S. Federal Government, code named the Stargate Project and handled by the CIA and the DIA, has also been terminated in 1995 due to its inconclusive reports and limited applicability. Some statistical significance was established, but only for very vague and contradicting psychic observations, which led scientists to perceive remote viewing as nothing more than an unreliable 'paranormal phenomenon'. An independant review, performed by the American Institutes for Research, concluded :

"The foregoing observations provide a compelling argument against continuation of the program within the intelligence community. Even though a statistically significant effect has been observed in the laboratory, it remains unclear whether the existence of a paranormal phenomenon, remote viewing, has been demonstrated. The laboratory studies do not provide evidence regarding the origins or nature of the phenomenon, assuming it exists, nor do they address an important methodological issue of inter-judge reliability.

Further, even if it could be demonstrated unequivocally that a paranormal phenomenon occurs under the conditions present in the laboratory paradigm, these conditions have limited applicability and utility for intelligence gathering operations. For example, the nature of the remote viewing targets are vastly dissimilar, as are the specific tasks required of the remote viewers. Most importantly, the information provided by remote viewing is vague and ambiguous, making it difficult, if not impossible, for the technique to yield information of sufficient quality and accuracy of information for actionable intelligence. Thus, we conclude that continued use of remote viewing in intelligence gathering operations is not warranted.
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I think a lot of what is called psychic ability is really confused with intuition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition_(psychology)

Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without inference or the use of reason. The word intuition comes from Latin verb intueri which is usually translated as to look inside or to contemplate. Intuition is thus often conceived as a kind of inner perception, sometimes regarded as real lucidity or understanding. Cases of intuition are of a great diversity, however processes by which they happen typically remain mostly unknown to the thinker, as opposed to our view of rational thinking.

Intuition provides views, understandings, judgements, or beliefs that we cannot in every case empirically verify or rationally justify. For this reason, it has been not only a subject of study in psychology, but also a topic of interest in various religions and esoteric domains, as well as a common subject of writings. The right brain is popularly associated with intuitive processes such as aesthetic or generally creative abilities. Some scientists have contended that intuition is associated with innovation in scientific discovery.

Studies and claims
Dismissing the notion that intuitive impulses arise supernaturally, one is left to assume they originate with the many innate human senses. Remnants of perception, such as a movement occurring out of the "corner of your eye" or subtle sound that would normally be ignored as background noise, could occur simultaneously. While these events could be filtered as irrelevant by the mind, their coincidental synchronicity could lead to sudden assumptions about one's surroundings, such as the feeling of being watched or followed.

Intuitive abilities were quantitatively tested at Yale University in the 1970s. While studying nonverbal communication, researchers noted that some subjects were able to read nonverbal facial cues before reinforcement occurred. In employing a similar design, they noted that highly intuitive subjects made decisions quickly but could not identify their rationale. Their level of accuracy, however, did not differ from that of nonintuitive subjects.

Law enforcement officers often claim to observe suspects and immediately "know" that they possess a weapon or illicit narcotic substances. Often unable to articulate why they reacted or what prompted them at the time of the event, they sometimes retrospectively can plot their actions based upon what had been clear and present danger signals. Such examples liken intuition to "gut feelings" and when viable illustrate preconscious activity.

Intuition, as gut feeling based on experience, has been found to be useful for business leaders for making judgements about people, culture and strategy.

Who amongst us have not had a gut level feeling only to be proven right. I was a new cab driver in Vegas and the night I was to go on duty I felt something was wrong, and called in sick. I was looking forward to driving a cab to meet people to write about. The guy that took my place was killed that night by druggies looking for quick money.

I find that a lot of these so called psychics that you read about if you look at their success rate it is extremely low. However, once they do hit upon something close to their prediction they and the media goes wild with it. And everyone forgets all the wrong ones.

But to flat out say no there's no such thing - well that's like a brain surgeon looking for brain waves prior to the invention of the EEG.
Maybe there are psychics, we just don't have the means to scientifically demonstrate it at this time.

Also, when I lived in Vegas a new age bookshop opened called the Psychic Eye - when they went out of business (not long after) I wondered why didn't they know they weren't going to make it.cgoeaihdATjwdyFa
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Ive had a member of my family who was. Although she kinda went literally mad......
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Hell no. It's all a bunch of bullshit. If any so called physics guessed someone's future, it would be on different from seeing something coming, using logic. Like when you know who is calling before you look at your caller ID. How about you have a physic tell us how won the latest competition, and see what happens. Fair enough?
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At one time in my life I would of said maybe I did. But now I say NO and I guess I just can't believe someone can know anything about you and you have never met before. I do believe they can read your body language and get something off of that.
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I believe that people can have insight, intuition, and special gifts. Some messages come, and sometimes it's not exactly what you're asking. So many mysteries exist and there is a lot that we don't know. Like anything else, there are people who manipulate and then there are people who are spot on. Many people are black and white, but I have seen and experienced many things that indicate a gray area. As far as planning my future according to a psychic or astrology, I would not do that. I don't think anyone can predict everything or know everything that happened or will happen. That would be a horrible burden to bear.
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The MOST intelligent among us have only used ABOUT 10% of their brain. It's impossible to say what tremendous power and abilities might lay untapped in the OTHER 90% (90% PLUS for most of us!) Short answer, YES. I believe that we ALL have some level of psychic ability but it's scattered and imprecise for the most part and is only rarely clear and on track. There are ALSO those who are EXCELLENT fakes who have honed their NORMAL perceptions to a high degree (some aided by photographic minds and who are also possessed of excellent ability in regards to deduction.) THOSE people can do a remarkable job of FAKING psychic ability.


Well said.
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I haven't seen one that "passed muster".
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uhh no
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Psychics, no... intuition yes
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Everyone is a psychic, but not all of us are aware of this. I myself have been developing for a number of years now. This has been ever since the age of 10, when I saw a man standing in the room at home on the second floor. I ran screaming to my mother and told her what i had seen. She said that there was nothing to be afraid of and that there was another world on the " other side " and we all go there one day. This quietning of a terrifying moment, was enough to open my mind and began to think about it.

This has been especially so since i have started doing Massage, Aromatherapy and Astrology Charts. From here I have taken myself off , especially to Europe and England, to discover the arts, and how they work, and who the people are and what they are like, and how they came to be skilled in their various forms of Divination. I have been told that I too, will be able to " see " one day, and in some ways I can, but not as clearly as I hope !

In the time that I have been travelling and massaging, I have come across excellent Tarot Card readers, Sand readers, hand readers, head readers, tea leaf readers, and such like. They are all around us, and its easy to pick the Charlatans that are around.

I myself, have " seen " some horrendous things when I touch bodies, things that would make your body shudder, one in particular was a women nurse, who was working a graveyard shift and a group of drunken lesbians came to her ward and assaulted her, they ended up her with beer and wine bottles ! It was like a movie being played before my eyes, while my hands were in the start positon of the massage. I have also seen other things too, I ask open ended questions of the client, which hopefully brings out the answers and draws the trauma away.

However I have also seen the the funny and the humarous too. Sailors are great ones for Psychic experiences, however because of their macho nature will not generally admit to it, until they are alone with you, had a few drinks and you casually ask them, " so what happened out there to you ? " I myself have sailed for six months around the top end of the South Island, alone, and it was very enjoyable. I had hoped to have some sort of visitation, but nothing ever occurred. That was until I had moored in Takaka Harbour, and coming home one night to the boat from the Kitchen , the Car stopped suddenly and I could not get the electrics / Battery to work. So i got out and started walking.

I knew there was a dog around this area somewhere, but this evening could not hear the dog. Soon I felt it, and indeed there was a very large wolf moving and brushing past me, I then took a slight leap to the side, and turned and saw a hundred people standing in the middle of the road. I did not feel frightened, in fact I felt enlightened ! the message that i got then , was that on my travels, I always have good company, and that there will always be people looking out for me and indeed I do.

Many is the time that I have felt a presence, seen lights, and outlines of people, at 62 years old I am still developing, and I go to Psychics who are more experienced that I for help if i am unsure. If they are good, by their nature, they will know why I have come, and what information I seek ! We are all students and Teachers at the same time !

For the best sailing story, i suggest " sailing around the world " by Joshua Slocum. Its an old Classic and I know even if you are not a blue water man or woman, that you will enjoy it and his unearthly experiences.

Finally I conclude with the words that Shakespeare wrote : " there are more things in heaven and earth, than you or I can Fathom, Horatio !!! "
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I go see one once a year. smile I don't treat it as a future telling thing its more like a keep an eye out thing. Like the one last year told me that someone from my past would be contacting me at some point and it would be bad for me to have a friendship with them. 3 months later my abusive ex messaged me on facebook. coincidence maybe. but keep in mind in live in Montana and the one I saw was in Oregon. *shrugs*
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Nope I don't believe in them.

I would never go see one or call one.
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I do, they really exist! People who claim to be able to sense the paranormal that is.
Do I believe their claims? No, not at all.


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I think it is best to step away and let life flow through us, rather than try to be the ultimate deciders. But even within that flow, I believe there can be choices. And when there are no choices, and life is just a flowing bliss, you won’t have any need or concern for knowing the future from a psychic.
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Not at all