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unfortunately, I think cheating is defined however your spouse/significant other would define it- at least practically speaking.


BINGO! I think if you have to hide it because you know they wouldn't approve, then it's clearly a breech in trust and it's going to hurt the intimacy of your relationship, and thus, is considered cheating to me. If I was married and found my hubby was having (unknown to me) cyber sex with girls online I'd be angry and hurt. Think about it. Sometimes cyber is just that. But sometimes you can build a connection with a person, and to me, emotional affairs are far worse than anything physical.

I, however, love doing it. Hahaha. But I'm also NOT MARRIED.
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Cybering is a form of cheating. It's probably the same way if you call a sex line and have phone sex with an operator or a friend...you're creating a fantasy scenario that you'd like to perform on someone who isn't your partner...
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Similar to the question an old friend posed his wife:

Husband:"Honey? Is getting a blowjob considered cheating?"
Wife: "Only if giving them is."

How would you feel with the shoe on the other foot? Would it sting? I bet it would, even if you don't want to admit it.
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if you are just entertaining yourself and not hurting either of the partners you are with, how can it be cheating. do you tell them every time you fantise while masterbating? is there ready muich of the difference?


But that is what every one is trying to say. If it does hurt your partner and you are hiding it from them, then it is considered cheating. According to wikipedia, the definition of cheating is: Cheating is an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. If it doesn't bother your other half, then you are one of the lucky few who has a partner who is not threatened with trust issues over cyber sex.

But then again, you have raised other questions. If you have a partner and you masturbate or watch a porno when he or she is not home and they do not know about it, is that considered cheating? Is cyber sex, sex or just another form of masturbation? Is cyber sex the same as masturbating to a porno? Maybe we should define cyber sex as well.
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I consider it cheating if your spouse or girlfriend or boyfriend doesn't know that your having an intimate affair with someone you met online. I think it will hurt your partner because of the fact that you have sex with someone ONLINE without them knowing and It's like making your partner feel that they are lame when it comes to love making. People have this tendency to think like so especially when you both share the same love and just to find out your partner enjoys having sex in a cyber way rather than doing it with you for real.

Do I make sense, or I should re-state everything again?
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You did make sense sweetsbaby!

I always thought that if a person put all that effort that they do with the hiding and deception back into their relationship, there wouldn't be as many divorces in this day and age as there is.

I may lose some married or friends in relationships by saying this (and I really hope I don't), but it always amazes me, that a person would choose sex and self gratification over love, friendship and family on any given day. And if the relationship can not be saved then why don't they walk away instead of dragging things out

But I am not here to judge, I am just giving you my opinion. I just wish people would be more honest with their intentions and that way nobody gets hurt. That's all I ask for, is honesty. I am not going to stop talking to you because you are married or in a relationship but just be honest.

Yes, I was cheated on, and the pain I went through, well I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy.
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I think my position on this has changed in the last few months...If you asked me six months ago, I would have without hesitation said "NO" it is not cheating...harmless entertainment between persons, often great distances away, as DB said...
But, I have realized now, that people who do it regularly often develop strong emotional attachments...and that is not good...
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I think my position on this has changed in the last few months...If you asked me six months ago, I would have without hesitation said "NO" it is not cheating...harmless entertainment between persons, often great distances away, as DB said...
But, I have realized now, that people who do it regularly often develop strong emotional attachments...and that is not good...
Later,
Alan.


I think Alan has got it right here except I have found the strong emotional attachments I have made to be wonderful and enhance my relationship with my husband and yes he's knows about them! Probably even gets sick of hearing about what is going on with all my Lush buddies and even tells me to go chat with my fav Stephen when I'm grouchy! LOL
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The truth of the matter is that we all have secrets.. not every thought or fantasy that we have has to be trumpeted from the front gate... I'm sure that each of our partners have things they haven't told us.. is that cheating? that quick glance at an attractive person in line at Costco.. is that cheating? that daydream about your sister-in-law or brother-in-law.. is that cheating? In my opinion cheating has to come with the basic intent to eliminate someone in your heart and replace them temporarily with someone else for the purpose of selfish pleasure.. if on the other hand as Bunny has said we bring that arousal and desire back to our partners and share it willingly, whether spoken or unspoken, then I don't think it meets the level of cheating.. if anything I believe that cybering may be minimizing the desire to cheat...
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The truth of the matter is that we all have secrets.. not every thought or fantasy that we have has to be trumpeted from the front gate... I'm sure that each of our partners have things they haven't told us.. is that cheating? that quick glance at an attractive person in line at Costco.. is that cheating? that daydream about your sister-in-law or brother-in-law.. is that cheating? In my opinion cheating has to come with the basic intent to eliminate someone in your heart and replace them temporarily with someone else for the purpose of selfish pleasure.. if on the other hand as Bunny has said we bring that arousal and desire back to our partners and share it willingly, whether spoken or unspoken, then I don't think it meets the level of cheating.. if anything I believe that cybering may be minimizing the desire to cheat...


Larry...I agree with you, though like you said "if we can bring that desire back"...I think "if" is the key word here...
If the emotional attachments you develop take from your relationship instead of add...then it becomes harmful and perhaps dangerous...
If, as Bunny said, you can use it to add to your relationship...great...but, I know for a fact that not everyone can...
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How about thinking of someone else while having sex with your partner? Is that cheating?

Concerning cyber: it's so easy to project your (unfulfilled) desires and needs onto some virtual playmate. In a world of make believe that this cyber world is made of it's obvious that the temptation is greater and easier to give in to than in real life.
I've been doing this cyber thing for several years and did get a few emotional attachments but they all faded out at some point. For me cyber can only go so far until you want something more tangible and 'real'. I guess that's why hb74 and I decided to meet quite early on.
Just last night another lush girl asked me to turn on my cam and play for her but I respectfully declined. She took it well and said it was nice to see that there are still some people who are that loyal.
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Yes, I think that cybering is cheating.

In reality anything that you cannot disclose to your spouse in good conscience is cheating.

Personally I don't do casual cybersex, I need to have some emotional involvement with that person first, which actually makes it worse I think.
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You did make sense sweetsbaby!

I always thought that if a person put all that effort that they do with the hiding and deception back into their relationship, there wouldn't be as many divorces in this day and age as there is.

I may lose some married or friends in relationships by saying this (and I really hope I don't), but it always amazes me, that a person would choose sex and self gratification over love, friendship and family on any given day. And if the relationship can not be saved then why don't they walk away instead of dragging things out

But I am not here to judge, I am just giving you my opinion. I just wish people would be more honest with their intentions and that way nobody gets hurt. That's all I ask for, is honesty. I am not going to stop talking to you because you are married or in a relationship but just be honest.

Yes, I was cheated on, and the pain I went through, well I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy.


SweetBitch please don't take this as picking on you etc, when you say love you use the word casually.......because let's face it if any of us were "truely"
in love (none of us would be here) love is not wanting nor needing, loving for lovings sake not wanting nor needing but loving for lovings take.

This is a poem I wrote a long time ago......
I wonder and ponder too and throw with people who put on a show, I see the world in it's glory with people who have a never ending story. Your beautiful and suitable in so many ways, that your story is full of glory, and listen I to you, bring me to the stars and unlock me from these bars. Heavens bliss is thoust kiss of love, surrending not, and loving for lovings sake not wanting nor needing but loving for lovings take. Upon sweet wine lips do I drink thee and get lost with the angels dancing to the rythm of the dance and see heaven unfold for a story to be never told. I love thee.

We all know the answer to this thread.
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How about thinking of someone else while having sex with your partner? Is that cheating?

Concerning cyber: it's so easy to project your (unfulfilled) desires and needs onto some virtual playmate. In a world of make believe that this cyber world is made of it's obvious that the temptation is greater and easier to give in to than in real life.
I've been doing this cyber thing for several years and did get a few emotional attachments but they all faded out at some point. For me cyber can only go so far until you want something more tangible and 'real'. I guess that's why hb74 and I decided to meet quite early on.
Just last night another lush girl asked me to turn on my cam and play for her but I respectfully declined. She took it well and said it was nice to see that there are still some people who are that loyal.


such a boy scout Painter! Thats why I love ya! ok, not really. I just love brushes.

Good question, by the way. Am I cheating if I think of somebody else when I fuck my boyfriend, if I had one?
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How about thinking of someone else while having sex with your partner? Is that cheating?

Concerning cyber: it's so easy to project your (unfulfilled) desires and needs onto some virtual playmate. In a world of make believe that this cyber world is made of it's obvious that the temptation is greater and easier to give in to than in real life.
I've been doing this cyber thing for several years and did get a few emotional attachments but they all faded out at some point. For me cyber can only go so far until you want something more tangible and 'real'. I guess that's why hb74 and I decided to meet quite early on.
Just last night another lush girl asked me to turn on my cam and play for her but I respectfully declined. She took it well and said it was nice to see that there are still some people who are that loyal.


such a boy scout Painter! Thats why I love ya! ok, not really. I just love brushes.

Good question, by the way. Am I cheating if I think of somebody else when I fuck my boyfriend, if I had one?


hahahahaha maybe you answered your own question lady, considering your location pmsl...........thats a lot of dicks to be cheating on.
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lol Busted!!
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I think there is a huge difference between thinking of someone while you fuck your partner, and cybering. Cybering involves actually interacting with your fantasy person, which is far more intense than just having them in your head.
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I think there is a huge difference between thinking of someone while you fuck your partner, and cybering. Cybering involves actually interacting with your fantasy person, which is far more intense than just having them in your head.


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To me it's cheating if your partner isn't aware and you're keeping it from them because you know they wouldn't approve.


I agree as well. If you are getting sexual satisfaction from cybering (which usually is the case) outside of a relationship, that's cheating.
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Yes...i agree with tomtom smile i also would like to add not many of us would like to think our partners do it behind our backs

but as a person i still do it
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As far as I'm concerened, every meaningful relationship that a person has must be based on honesty. If engaging in cyber sex involves lying to your partner then I consider it to be a form of cheating. I have talked to people on this site and on others who have been hurt by the dishonest actions of cyber-sex partners and who have come into serious conflict with that partner's wife or girlfriend.

As in all areas of human interaction, honest communication is of paramount importance. If, after having discussed the issue with your partner, you find them seriously against it. Is it worth potentially ruining your relationship with them and possibly hurting others by continuing in secret?

I know people who have affairs, watch porn, visit prostitutes and have cybersex and do so under the cloak of secrecy lest their wives/husbands/partners find out.

If this degree of dishonesty is necessary then maybe some of these people are with the wrong partner.
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SweetBitch please don't take this as picking on you etc, when you say love you use the word casually.......because let's face it if any of us were "truely"
in love (none of us would be here) love is not wanting nor needing, loving for lovings sake not wanting nor needing but loving for lovings take.

This is a poem I wrote a long time ago......
I wonder and ponder too and throw with people who put on a show, I see the world in it's glory with people who have a never ending story. Your beautiful and suitable in so many ways, that your story is full of glory, and listen I to you, bring me to the stars and unlock me from these bars. Heavens bliss is thoust kiss of love, surrending not, and loving for lovings sake not wanting nor needing but loving for lovings take. Upon sweet wine lips do I drink thee and get lost with the angels dancing to the rythm of the dance and see heaven unfold for a story to be never told. I love thee.

We all know the answer to this thread.





But you are always picking on me

This is a poem I wrote a short time ago.....

There once was man named NiteAngel,
Who sweetbitch wanted to strangle.
he picked on her use of words such as "But" & "And",
So she hit him upside the head with her hand.



By the way Peter, how is the weather there? Over here, we are experiencing a drought!
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Remind me never to get on your badside Sweetbitch. Kinky side is okay though. Ha!
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Remind me never to get on your badside Sweetbitch. Kinky side is okay though. Ha!


bad side or back side?

And are you sure about the kinky side tomtom?



NiteAngel knows i'm only joking! Well, I hope he does! If not I have some major sucking up to do to him!
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Ok maybe not that kinky. But I'll give you some sucking up.
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But that is the only kinky I like LOL. Well besides the chocolate that is!

Any who, back to the subject ...... lol
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Who needs chocolate when there's your honeypot!!!
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Quote by NiteAngel

SweetBitch please don't take this as picking on you etc, when you say love you use the word casually.......because let's face it if any of us were "truely"
in love (none of us would be here) love is not wanting nor needing, loving for lovings sake not wanting nor needing but loving for lovings take.

This is a poem I wrote a long time ago......
I wonder and ponder too and throw with people who put on a show, I see the world in it's glory with people who have a never ending story. Your beautiful and suitable in so many ways, that your story is full of glory, and listen I to you, bring me to the stars and unlock me from these bars. Heavens bliss is thoust kiss of love, surrending not, and loving for lovings sake not wanting nor needing but loving for lovings take. Upon sweet wine lips do I drink thee and get lost with the angels dancing to the rythm of the dance and see heaven unfold for a story to be never told. I love thee.

We all know the answer to this thread.





But you are always picking on me

This is a poem I wrote a short time ago.....

There once was man named NiteAngel,
Who sweetbitch wanted to strangle.
he picked on her use of words such as "But" & "And",
So she hit him upside the head with her hand.



By the way Peter, how is the weather there? Over here, we are experiencing a drought!



Oh please stop, Mmmmm, oh yessssss, yessssss, please, please, please stop, yes just there mmmmmm.
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It all depends on what you define as cheating: chatting online, e-mails, private chat, kissing, flirting, having sex with someone else. How do you define cheating and what are your limits?