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I was re-reading a story on here by an author and while 31/32 comments were good, the first one posted was really negative:

Posted Mar 13, 2012 19:31
Very poorly written. The pacing is trite and the word selection is boringly repetitive. This recounting of an alleged encounter suggests that your knowledge about, and therefore your ability to describe, an interpersonal relationship is very limited.


A few other people disagreed with the commentator in their own feedback and I think that he was just trying to put the author down. Have you ever received a negative comment/s that you think was unjust?
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I'm always looking out for and appreciating constructive criticism, but when I think of constructive criticism I think of it actually being helpful, as in the critic will suggest helpful ways to improve one's writing.

The commenter you've used as an example commented with a shallow choice of words. . . "very poorly written". . . "boringly repetitive". . . "knowledge/ability to describe is very limited". Zero helpful comments; total bashing. I agree with you.

I've only posted one story so far in my short tenure here, so I haven't received any negative comments (YET), but I'm sure they'll come.
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I'm always looking out for and appreciating constructive criticism, but when I think of constructive criticism I think of it actually being helpful, as in the critic will suggest helpful ways to improve one's writing.

The commenter you've used as an example commented with a shallow choice of words. . . "very poorly written". . . "boringly repetitive". . . "knowledge/ability to describe is very limited". Zero helpful comments; total bashing. I agree with you.

I've only posted one story so far in my short tenure here, so I haven't received any negative comments (YET), but I'm sure they'll come.


I agree with this.

Not just on Lush, but if I get criticised for something, I have my cry (and boy, can I cry!), and then I sit back and look at what was said. I ask myself if I can see what the person has pointed out, and if they have good point. If I know that truly they don't (by their language/attitude), I dismiss it.

If I think they do, I ask a friend or two what they think about it.

If the criticism is correct, I then look to see if I can use the feedback, however it was presented, to avoid it in the future. But as a general rule, I look at what the average comments are saying, and go by that.

I also remember that to criticise without being constructive just makes me look like an arse, and I ask myself how I would prefer to read the comment if it was given to me, even if it's not what I wanted.

When I see negative comments/feedback anywhere, I try my best to be constructive if it has a point, or message/speak with the person myself to give them a boost and tell them the truth as I see it.

One can be critical, yes, but one should also not be a complete bumhole about it.
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I received a 2 and the negative comment "I just didn't like it" or words to that effect.

It was a put down, pure and simple and nothing to do with what I'd actually written and while the temptation was to add a retort of my own, or contact the member, I never.

All of the comments I received on the poem before were positive and a fair few of the ones recieved after chastised the poster of the negative comment, so it was sort of self-policing.

I welcome constructive criticism, and will try to learn from that.

Personally, if I felt that strongly about a story or comment I'd be more likely to send a message to the author, rather than mar their story...
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plain and simple fuck-em
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I received a 2 and the negative comment "I just didn't like it" or words to that effect. ...
This is not what I would consider a negative comment about your poem - it is a negative comment about the reader. Personally I don't like vampire stories, but I don't shout about it on the site. If I mistakenly start one I just hit the BACK button.

The kind of negative comment quoted by scottg is just silly and can be ignored.

Really useful, well thought out and well expressed negative comments are invaluable to an author. An example I received some time ago was "In Ch.1 the lawyer is called Johnathan, but when he reappears in Ch.5 he has changed to Jonathan." That kind of mistake is murderously difficult for the author to spot, and very annoying to the reader. I was grateful for the heads up and changed it as fast as I could. My critic was, I think, surprised to be thanked for his/her message.
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Boringly is a bad adverb. That's what I learned from that comment. I also limit using the word very. It's often unnecessary. I do split infinitives though. Screw that.

Have you ever received a negative comment/s that you think was unjust?


As far as I know I've never received a negative comment. I'm sure people were thinking negative things while reading my stories, but for whatever reason they didn't post them. I have a good idea what problems my stories have anyway, so if they did post an honest negative comment, I'd probably agree with them.

edit: I've received one negative comment about an ending, the rest of the comment was positive.
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My line of thought is that anytime you make your work public, there is a decent shot that it won't be well received by at least one person. That being said, there is a line between a negative comment such as "I didn't like the content" (which in that case, the reader did not read the tags) and constructive criticism which ideally should encourage a writer to put out a better product. I've received some negative comments. I take them for what they are and move on.
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I received a 2 and the negative comment "I just didn't like it" or words to that effect.



Someone actually had the balls to leave you a negative comment Miss Mazza? Wow, that sorry-ass bastard was taking their life in their own hands...

I think the phrase "I pity the fool" comes to mind...



And yeah, I've got my share of negative comments...I just think it's practically a given if you hang out and write long enough...just sayin'

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And yeah, I've got my share of negative comments...


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After reading the quoted comment, I remembered being surprised by it... not just from the negativity standpoint, but also because of how it held absolutely no worth to the author. The writer was definitely not a rookie, but it was the first attempt at a different writing style. It really stuck out since it was the first comment, I hope it didn't take away the creative spirit.

I've not yet received a negative comment on either of my stories, but it's probably people just being nice. I'm sure my day will come, and when it does, I hope it's from someone who wants my writing to improve and not some jerk-wad who just wants to voice their oppinion on subjective issues.
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I got a 2 once and they just said, "Stupid." I tried to ask them about it but no response. That really bugged me.
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I got a 2 once and they just said, "Stupid." I tried to ask them about it but no response. That really bugged me.


I don't think they were referring to you...
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I have a few times, although rarely on this site.

Mostly it's been to do with the 'morality' of my characters and their choices (eg. slutty behaviour, cheating, partying, being bitchy, multiple sex partners etc). Some people take the characters way too seriously in erotica and judge them according to their own moral standards, instead of just appreciating them as fictional characters.

I also once had a negative comment from a guy who thought my stories focused too much on the male-dominant sex theme. Since then (and having nothing to do with his comments) I've written a couple of stories that are more female-dominant.

In the end, I write about things that I find sexually exciting. They're not all going to be rose-petals on the bed one-on-one lovemaking with morally virtuous characters. I'm not too bothered by criticism over content.

In general the vast majority of comments I receive are very positive.
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I have been writing on lush for nearly a year. I have written about fifty stories so far.
As a writer I get excited when someone comments on my posts.

I have seen many comments, though mostly good I have seen a few that I thought were unjust.

In fact I have had comment which I thought that the person who posted was just being a prick and didn't know what he was talking about.

I’ll give you an example.

I wrote a story called ARABIAN NIGHTS and a man posted
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A story crafted so poorly. First, no Pharoah's decendants are on earth, leave aside Egypt. Second, no arab woman will ever screem or shout or even moan aloud in sex. Third, asshole fucking is prohibited & punishable by law as sodomy in Egypt & all Middle East countries & even in India. Flow of story is so poor, appears to have written in pieces that have been put together & lastly, full of grammer & spell check issues.


I tried to explain that it is erotica and not a piece of non-fiction. I wasn’t writing a theses or anything like that. It was just something I wrote

It irritated me but I still have enough positive reviews to keep on writing.

(look out for his spelling mistakes. i took it right from my comments)
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I always look forward to reading comments on my stories. I have received many favorable comments which make me want to write more. I find them most encouraging and also very good for my ego. Similarly, I have never put anyone else down with negative comments. I have on occasions offered constructive criticisms to help people reach their full potential. In the years I have been here on Lush, I have only ever received 1 bad comment. It was nasty and personal and attacked me as a person. It was not about the story. I contacted Lush and the comment was removed. Quite possibly that offender was also removed as I never heard from him again.
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I have a few times, although rarely on this site.

Mostly it's been to do with the 'morality' of my characters and their choices (eg. slutty behaviour, cheating, partying, being bitchy, multiple sex partners etc). Some people take the characters way too seriously in erotica and judge them according to their own moral standards, instead of just appreciating them as fictional characters.



Yeah, I've got a few morality related comments on some of my stories...makes me think my stories must be popular with church people...nice to know they read them at least...

Been a while though since I even thought about it, but the thought about moral content did occur to me a couple of years back...

Do You Ever Feel A Moral Obligation When Writing?...and how does it affect you?
http://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postst9283_Do-You-Ever-Feel-A-Moral-Obligation-When-Writingand-how-does-it-affect-you.aspx

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I do not write stories for this site or any other, so I can't relate to negative commenting, though I will say that I have read a fair amount of "bashing" by quite a few readers here. Sad!

Personally, I never negatively comment on anyone's writing, because I can't write a story to save my life, I always try to remain as positive and encouraging as possible when commenting, or refrain from posting a comment at all. I always try to keep my negativity, and I have many episodes of that, to myself where they belong, nobody wants to hear me or read from me my "sourness"!!

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I don't give negative comments...I give constructive criticism when it's needed.
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I think as long as its constuctive then it has a place in a review. Just saying 'This was bad' isn't helpful to anyone. If I read something that I don't really like I don't put it down - i just don't leave a comment at all. Who am I to say its bad - each to their own. What doesn't appeal to me may be loved by others.

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I once saw a very negative comment on a very good story I was reading by another member. I was quite surprised to see a comment like that on the story. Out of curiosity I went to that negative commenter's page and traced their comments and found story after story of nothing but negative comments by them. I figured that the negative commenter had some real bad personal emotional issues and just wanted to take out their torment on innocent people.
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Have you ever received a negative comment/s that you think was unjust?




Yes, I have, but I still felt glad to get it... A negative comment forces me to re-examine my writing with a fresh viewpoint, so whether I agree with the comment or not I still gain a fresh perspective.
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I have received one or two vaguely negative comments, but unless they contain constructive criticism, I don't let them affect me.

Now, when I was working for local government and was consistently given poor reviews on my writing, because I refused to write in the passive voice, THAT used to upset me. To this day, when I receive a comment from a reviewing agency that begins, "It is recommended ..." it raises my ire, and even though I may read further, I am rarely able to immediatly assimilate what is written.
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Yes, I have, but I still felt glad to get it... A negative comment forces me to re-examine my writing with a fresh viewpoint, so whether I agree with the comment or not I still gain a fresh perspective.





Yeah, I can agree with that...the fact that someone noticed something, and took the time to leave a comment should make you at least look at what they are referring to...whether or not you agree is, of course, up to you...

I also agree with Buz, that there are some people who clearly have "issues" but fortunately they are few and far between...

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Yes, I have, but I still felt glad to get it... A negative comment forces me to re-examine my writing with a fresh viewpoint, so whether I agree with the comment or not I still gain a fresh perspective.





Yeah, I can agree with that...the fact that someone noticed something, and took the time to leave a comment should make you at least look at what they are referring to...whether or not you agree is, of course, up to you...

I also agree with Buz, that there are some people who clearly have "issues" but fortunately they are few and far between...

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I received a bad comment from someone that said something like, "Liked the story, but needed more." I tracked down his stories and all of them were poorly written and got high marks on every single one of them. Long story short, I took his comment and the rest of the vaguely written comments with a grain of salt and kept writing the way I saw fit to the stories I'm writing.

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I received positive encouraging comments most of the time except for one on my last story which annoyed me a bit for 15minutes because the person was like telling me how I should have written my story but finally I thought that I was not going to let 1 negative comment annoy me. If I had several comments telling me something negative, then I'd be worried and review my story.

I think each person has certain personal expectations from a story and thus opinions will vary. Don't get discouraged by negative comments and don't take it personally.

As an author, you should also expect negative feedback. That's how it goes in real life. You may buy a novel that is supposed to be a best-seller having positive reviews and when you're reading it, you may just hate it. It will all depend on what the reader likes and wants to read.
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I recently received a comment which I'm not sure about. I think it's negative, but I don't actually understand what they were saying, so... I tried to PM the commenter, but they have chosen not to receive PMs from non-friends, so I can't even ask for clarification I could take forward in my writing in future. I did leave a comment on the piece, but why would they be back to see?

I think it's nice if people who leave negative (or even positive) comments are clear on what they mean, because otherwise, what was the point? How can we move forward and take on board what's being said if we don't understand? I know what I think they might have meant, but I have no real idea.

I have now asked a mate to read that poem (I don't think he has before) and to critique it for me (I asked him not to read the comments, so that I can see if I can get a sense of what the original commenter meant). But I'm still waiting for him to do it. In the meantime, I'm all, eh?
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That reminds me, Daisy - i meant to make the comment that you use too many vowels in your stories. just an observation. smile

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The most memorable negative comment I have received to date was the concisely worded "stop writing". lol HL