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NymphWriter
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My husband did the upgrade to Windows 10 a few days ago and it wouldn't let him stay online for more than a few minutes and we have a new modem. He finally uninstalled it and said he might try again after a few updates.
Me... I'm waiting. Honestly... let us keep Windows 7 if we want. Fuck... they just forced EVERYONE to Windows 7 (I know... my district was having kittens about this & the problems it was causing district wide) and now the Windows 10 free roll-out is causing nothing but headaches.
Why can't they leave well enough alone?!?
Me... I'm waiting. Honestly... let us keep Windows 7 if we want. Fuck... they just forced EVERYONE to Windows 7 (I know... my district was having kittens about this & the problems it was causing district wide) and now the Windows 10 free roll-out is causing nothing but headaches.
Why can't they leave well enough alone?!?
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Quote by nicola
I'm pretty sure our excellent team of story mods, will be able to figure out these most important and intellectually challenging categorisation conundrums (ccc)
At 76% for, this looks a slam dunk in favour.
I completely agree!!! They wouldn't be story mods if they weren't amazing!
Historical will make a great category and the amazing authors of Lush will do a great job. I'm sure we'll see some interesting takes on these future historical stories despite what some critics might say. Who knows... we could think of history and historical fiction in a whole new light.
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Quote by RejectReality
I'm honestly not trying to be a dick. This is a feedback thread about creating a new category, and I'm just trying to articulate my opinion on it.
I don't see the need to muddy up the waters of a Historical category with Sci-Fi&Fantasy when there are already two categories for those stories.
I never thought you were. I assure you... I was just raising a point about how we have several amazing stories that could easily cross genres. I actually respected your opinions. To be honest... I think Historical will get "muddied" by other elements that some would say aren't historical. We're good. No worries.
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I have a husband who's favorite thing to do is spend time with me. This includes shopping, going to the movies, visiting museums, and much more. Why the hell would I fuck all that up over a "hall-pass"? For me... the answer is no. I got finally got a good man and it's not worth giving up for anything.
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Quote by stephanie
VALID POINT... Let's look ONCE AGAIN at the nuance of category.
The FACT that the story is MAINLY CONCERNED with a PAST historical situation and setting cites the story in the THE HISTORICAL CATEGORY.
Story Mods do this every day... It's NUANCE... (Erotic Poem or Love Poem???) They call it and in my time and indeed in my experience since, 99.9% of the time that crew call it right.
xx SF
*EDIT!* *GIGGLE!*
There are stories all over this site that can be classified as fantasy, sci-fi, supernatural, BDSM, and much more but the AUTHOR chose to put it where he/she did. No one questions these stories and why they are where they are at. We saw this challenge with the amazing This is Hardcore comp we just had not too long ago. There were many debates about what was hardcore & what was more BDSM. I'm sure some of the stories could easily fit in either category without a problem.
Yet... have some minor time travel and it seems everyone looses their shit. Okay... not everyone... but damn.
Steph hit the nail on the head when he said these are NUANCES. If you get so hung up on one minor plot device... then you've got a bigger problem. Someone earlier said if the story focus was about someone "fucking Cleopatra"... then it would work. If someone went to change the past... it would not. If your hang-up is how they got there... let the authors... and maybe the Mod who takes the time to verify the story address that. Not some critic.
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Quote by stephanie
How we COMPLICATE things...
Here's my
I think that a Time Travel story COULD, (if obviously taking place in the past...) be posted under HISTORICAL. That is, IF THE OBVIOUS ACCENT OF THE STORY CONCERNS HISTORICAL DETAIL RATHER THAN THE MECHANICS (?) OF THE TIME TRAVEL PROCESS ITSELF...
Indeed, if THAT SAME STORY were posted in Sci-Fi it might disappoint readers who were looking for a more of a WILLIAM GIBSON hit... (Look it up!)
(A TIME TRAVEL story set IN THE FUTURE is SCI-FI, NO QUESTION!)
Ultimately and AS ALWAYS if there is a QUESTION about category placement it will be resolved by the experienced and capable Mod Team who do that sort of thing every day.
(So WE don't have to worry our talented little heads about it!!!) All WE have to do is WRITE.
Thank you. I am STEPHEN, VOICE OF REASON...
(Available for After Dinner speeches...)
xx SF
Thank you Stephen for being the voice of reason.
You understand what I'm trying to communicate. As I had stated before... if Nic give this an absolute NO... then fine. I appreciate you actually reading & understanding my suggestion. 
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Quote by RejectReality
The person who has done the time-traveling is always going to be out of sync. If they're not at least reflecting on the differences between their time period and the one where they are, then what's the point of it being time-travel at all? Once you start doing that, the focus isn't on the past, it's on the sci-fi aspects.
The only way I see it remaining focused on the past is if the time-traveler isn't the POV character, and the time-travel aspects only appear at the end as a twist. BTTF 3 told from Clara's perspective.
You are making assumptions on stories that have yet to be written. I asked if it could be possible, but you and a few others seem to be all hung up on the time traveling element and nothing else. I've read a few stories where this plot device of getting them into the past is quickly dealt with and then... the rest of the story is about their being in the past. They don't have any "modern technology" screwing things up from the past nor do they do anything that makes it obvious they are from the future because the character (and the writer) are not idiots.
Please note... I never said anything about time machines (someone else said that.) I asked about time-travel. I never said HOW it would occur. It could be an enchanted piece of clothing, a special stone, a doorway, a vortex, a wormhole, or a hundred other things. And sure... it could be the twist at the ending too. So... I guess what I'm saying is before you completely shoot down an idea... you know what the person is talking about. A few others understood my idea... my thought.
I also know Nicola has the final say. If she says no... then it's over and I'll move on. It was a suggestion about an element within this potential new category. Nothing more.
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Quote by RejectReality
The category description should probably mention Westerns specifically, because the genre is most often split off from other historical fiction in so many places.
As far as time-travel goes, I'd say that belongs in Sci-Fi regardless of the focus. Even if you're focusing on the interaction within the time period, at least one of the characters isn't from that time period, or it wouldn't be a time-travel story. To one degree or another, that character is going to be a fish-out-of-water.
It's a Yes for me, because a couple of genre categories help with placing stories that cross a broader range of kinks.
As to the time travel element... the whole fish out of water was the whole idea. Everyone keeps focusing on how the person gets stuck in the past... but if that's just a plot device to get them there... and the focus of the story is the past... then it could be historical.
Quote by kiera
I assumed you meant something along the lines of the Christopher Reeve/Jane Seymour film Somewhere in Time?? I love that film and don't class it as being Science Fiction although time travel is involved, am I right?
YES!!! That's exactly what I was thinking and I don't think of that film as sci-fi whatsoever! And I love that movie... always makes me cry.
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Not really sure if this is a bug... or something that should be added to the submission page... but here goes.
I entered a title that had & instead of the word and, but the symbol was lost and my title didn't read as I had intended. While the fix was an easy one, is this something that is not possible in titles? If so, could there please be a quick blurb (I did double check and as of this post... there is no such notice about this) to write out the word instead of using symbols.
I entered a title that had & instead of the word and, but the symbol was lost and my title didn't read as I had intended. While the fix was an easy one, is this something that is not possible in titles? If so, could there please be a quick blurb (I did double check and as of this post... there is no such notice about this) to write out the word instead of using symbols.
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Quote by RavenStar
I disagree. Think of the Back to the Future movies. I would definitely put those in science fiction, not historical fiction. Also that series Outlander. Science fiction, even though the majority of the drama is historical.
For me, whenever science fiction elements show up, it definitely goes in that genre.
While I totally agree Back to the Future was complete science fiction... and I know nothing of this Outlander series you mention... I was talking about a plot device that sends a character into the past. Think more A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court... where the modern person is thrust back in time & fools those of that era... only in this case... they do it with the intention of fucking other characters. Not all science fiction elements must be exclusive to science fiction.
Quote by seeker4
To my mind, it is going to depend on how it is focussed. If the time travel is just a device to get the character into the situation and most of the action is about the history (Scott goes back in time to screw Cleopatra or something), then I'd call it historical with "time travel" as a tag.
This was what I was trying to communicate, but it seems that my meaning was misunderstood by some.
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Quote by Magical_felix
Science fiction/fantasy with historic tags.
Kinda how the movie Timeline is categorized scifi but set mostly in medieval times.
More like a Historical Fiction with a "Time Travel" tag. 
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Quote by clum
This applies to any category. It isn't a matter of, "I wouldn't take part in that category so it shouldn't exist." I don't read or write Lesbian stories but I still see the value of that category.
When I voted, I knew I had no interest in reading or writing Revenge stories, but it didn't influence my decision. I voted based on whether I thought this new category would bring value to the site. Does it fill a gap? Will it appeal to a large enough number of readers and writers to make it worthwhile? Is it a clearly defined category?
If we take the view that those who aren't interested could just ignore it, we could have hundreds of categories with a handful or stories in each and mall numbers of readers. Eventually categories become a pointless exercise.
This vote didn't exactly demonstrate an overwhelming enthusiasm for Revenge stories.
Well said! You summed up the issue of a new category very well. I hope with all future categories that people that this in consideration. 
Unicorn Wrangler
I think this could open up a lot of great story ideas for our amazing authors. My one question is could this include a time-travel story where a modern character finds themselves in the past (American Revolution, Old West, Civil War, etc.)?
It's only a thought (at the moment) but it was the one that came to me when I saw this thread.
It's only a thought (at the moment) but it was the one that came to me when I saw this thread.
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Grey's Anatomy~Been hooked since the 1st episode. I love that you never know what to expect from this show.
Scandal~How can you not love Olivia Pope
How to Get Away With Murder~Viola Davis... nuff said!
UnReal~Oh the drama, the sex, and more drama!
Once Upon a Time~What girl doesn't love a fairy tale.. & this one is so twisted it's not even funny!
Humans~A haunting look into the future
Switched by Birth~The premise was amazing, and the way they incorporate an amazing deaf cast is even better
The Fosters~Proof that love knows no boundaries
The Blacklist~James Spader... nuff said!
Real Time WIth Bill Maher~It's where I get my news from.
Scandal~How can you not love Olivia Pope
How to Get Away With Murder~Viola Davis... nuff said!
UnReal~Oh the drama, the sex, and more drama!
Once Upon a Time~What girl doesn't love a fairy tale.. & this one is so twisted it's not even funny!
Humans~A haunting look into the future
Switched by Birth~The premise was amazing, and the way they incorporate an amazing deaf cast is even better
The Fosters~Proof that love knows no boundaries
The Blacklist~James Spader... nuff said!
Real Time WIth Bill Maher~It's where I get my news from.
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