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The back of a police cruiser, mid-July, Miami...
I'd like to hear the story behind that.
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Ruthie
Over 90 days ago
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Empress of the Moon
First of all I assume that we're talking about erotic humiliation play here and not genuine abusive humiliation. Like everything else sexual, especially TTWD you have to keep in mind that the key point is that is has to be consensual. Being degraded and abused doesn't count as erotic humiliation any more than any other non-consensual act.
A lot of submissives say that they don't like to be humiliated. What they are really saying is that they don't want to be used abusively. In my opinion, there has to be a certain amount of humiliation in submission. That doesn't necessarily mean embarrassment though.
Here are some things I've done that might be considered humiliating, or were meant to be.
Having to leave the bathroom door opened so that others can watch me on the toilet, or having to pee outside standing up.
Being made to go outside naked or appear in public without panties or a bra and being told to show myself to strangers.
Having to kneel in front of guests and addressing them as "Sir," or "Ma'am."
Being told publicly that I am going to be spanked when He gets me home.
Being spanked until my ass is red and having to wear a bikini or thong on the beach.
Being told to offer myself to guests.
Being told to give Him my panties in a public place.
Having to stand in the corner with my panties around my ankles.
Being spanked in the diaper position, on my back with my legs up in the air.
Having to go get a paddle, brush or belt.
Being spanked in front of guests.
Being tied up and ignored.
Having to get out of the car naked and pump gas.
Being made to sit on a horse.
Almost anything done in a club while others are watching the scene.
A lot of submissives say that they don't like to be humiliated. What they are really saying is that they don't want to be used abusively. In my opinion, there has to be a certain amount of humiliation in submission. That doesn't necessarily mean embarrassment though.
Here are some things I've done that might be considered humiliating, or were meant to be.
Having to leave the bathroom door opened so that others can watch me on the toilet, or having to pee outside standing up.
Being made to go outside naked or appear in public without panties or a bra and being told to show myself to strangers.
Having to kneel in front of guests and addressing them as "Sir," or "Ma'am."
Being told publicly that I am going to be spanked when He gets me home.
Being spanked until my ass is red and having to wear a bikini or thong on the beach.
Being told to offer myself to guests.
Being told to give Him my panties in a public place.
Having to stand in the corner with my panties around my ankles.
Being spanked in the diaper position, on my back with my legs up in the air.
Having to go get a paddle, brush or belt.
Being spanked in front of guests.
Being tied up and ignored.
Having to get out of the car naked and pump gas.
Being made to sit on a horse.
Almost anything done in a club while others are watching the scene.
Empress of the Moon
KOJA. Slave contracts differ. I don't know about the contract in question, but here's a sample contract, from Seekers. The termination clause is 7.0.1.
slave, previously in possession of her own person, agrees and states that she wishes and intends to deliver herself entirely into the hands of ....................... her Master. Master agrees and states that he wishes and intends to take possession of slave.
By signing this Slavery Contract, it is agreed that slave gives up all rights to her own person in every manner, and that Master takes entire possession of slave as property, claiming for himself her life, her future, and her heart and mind.
1.0.0 Slave's Role
(a) Slave agrees to obey and submit completely to Master in all ways. There are no boundaries of place, time, or situation in which the slave may willfully refuse to obey the directive of Master, except in situations where the slave's veto (section 2.0.1) applies.
(b) Slave also agrees that, once entered into the Slavery Contract, her body belongs to her Master, to be used as seen fit.
(c) All of slave's possessions likewise belong to Master, including all assets, finances, and material goods, to do with as he sees fit.
(d) Slave agrees to please Master to the best of her ability, in that she now exists solely for the pleasure of Master.
(e) Slave understands that all that she has, and all that she does, shall now move from right to privilege, granted only as He wishes, and only to the extent that He finds useful.
2.0.0 Safewords
If slave feels that a situation is approaching a boundary unforeseen, slave may utter the safeword "Yellow" signifying this. Master accepts the responsibility of assessing situations where slave calls the safeword and will, to the best of His ability, make judgment on whether to modify the activity or stop activity entirely. Slave agrees to hold no ill will due to Master's decision. Master agrees not to punish slave for the use of the safeword.
2.0.1 Slave's Veto
Slave, where appropriate, holds veto power over any command given by Master, at which time she may rightfully refuse to obey that command. This shall be signified by the safeword "Red." Utterance of the safeword "Red" necessitates immediate termination of activity, is considered a veto, and is grounds for termination of Slavery Contract.
3.0.0 Slave's Behavior: General
(a) Slave will strive diligently to remold slave's body, appearance, habits, and attitudes in accordance with Master's desires. Slave agrees to change the slave's actions, speech, and dress to express the ownership. Slave will always speak of her Master in terms of love and respect, and address Him appropriately (i.e. "Master", "Sir", "Daddy", "Keeper", etc.) when so directed.
(b) Slave will seek to learn how to please Master better, and will gracefully accept any criticism in whatever form Master chooses.
(c) Slave renounces all rights to privacy or concealment from Master. This includes but is not limited to photography and video photography of slave, in any situation, to be used and displayed in any manner Master sees fit.
(d) Slave agrees to confess all of slave's desires and fetishes for the Master's consideration.
(e) Slave will answer truthfully and completely, to the best of the slave's knowledge, any and all questions Master may ask of slave. Slave will volunteer any information her Master should know about her physical or emotional condition.
(f) When in the same room as her Master, slave will ask permission before leaving the room, explain where she is going, and why. This includes but is not limited to asking permission to use the restroom.
(g) Slave shall be responsible for maintaining the cleanliness and availability of all toys. None shall be used without the express permission of Master, unless agreed to beforehand.
(h) Slave is responsible for maintenance and completion of all household chores. This includes, but is not limited to, the following:
(i) cooking all meals; including preparing food for Master while He is at work,
(ii) cleaning; including vacuuming, dusting, and maintaining the kitchen, bathrooms, and porches,
(iii) laundry and dry cleaning,
(iv) paying all bills in a timely fashion,
(v) running errands and shopping,
(vi) laying out clothes for Master before work.
3.0.1 Slave's Dress/Body/Appearance
(a) Slave shall diligently maintain and adorn slave's body parts in such manner as will ensure that they are fully open and available to Master. Slave's body parts shall be able to be displayed by slave in public or private, to others or to Him, when so ordered.
(b) Slave shall never close nor cross her legs in Master's presence, unless specific permission to do so is granted.
(c) Slave shall never wear undergarments at any time, except when allowed to wear shorts or pants, and shall cover no part of her body with apparel or material of any description, except when the act of doing so, and the design of the item of apparel or material, are expressly approved by Master.
(d) Miniskirts, boots or shoes-with-heels, garters and stockings, and revealing tops or dresses shall be the mainstay of public attire.
(e) Slave shall keep slave's body parts clean-shaven or waxed at the direction of the Master.
(f) Slave shall keep slave's hair cut, styled, and colored as directed by Master.
(g) Slave shall keep slave's fingers and toenails painted and maintained as directed by Master.
(h) Master has the right to tattoo or have tattooed, pierce or have pierced, or brand or have branded slave's body.
(i) Slave will wear, at all times, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, a token of her possession, given to her by Master.
4.0.0 Master's Role
Master accepts the responsibility of slave's body and worldly possessions, to do with as He sees fit. Master agrees to love, care for, protect, and cherish slave, and to arrange for the safety and well-being of slave. Master also accepts the commitment to train the slave, punish the slave, love the slave, and use the slave as He sees fit.
5.0.0 Punishment
Slave agrees to accept any punishment Master decides to inflict, whether earned or not. Slave agrees that severe punishment may be assessed for any infraction of the letter or spirit of this Slavery Contract, and will accept the correction gratefully. The form and extent of the punishment shall be at the Master's pleasure. He may punish her without reason to please Himself. Slave enjoys the right to cry, scream, or beg, but accepts the fact that these heartfelt expressions will not affect her treatment. Further, she accepts that if her Master tires of her noise, He may gag her or take other actions to silence her.
6.0.0 Other People
(a) Slave may not seek any other Master or lover, or relate to others in any sexual or submissive way, either in "real time", or "virtual" or "cyber" time, without Master's permission. To do so will be considered a breach of Slavery Contract, and will result in extreme punishment or Slavery Contract termination.
(b) Master may accept other slaves or lovers, but must consider slave's emotional response to such actions.
(c) Slave agrees that her Master possesses the right to determine whether others can use her body and to what use they may put it. Master will discuss all such instances in advance with slave. Slave has no say in the choice of these other partners, with the exception that play with others must be "safe" in terms of the exchange of bodily fluids.
7.0.0 Alteration of Slavery Contract
This Slavery Contract may not be altered, except when both Master and slave agree. If the Slavery Contract is altered, the new Slavery Contract shall be printed and signed, and then the old Slavery Contract must be destroyed.
7.0.1 Termination of Slavery Contract
This Slavery Contract may be terminated at any time by Master, but never by slave. Upon termination, all materials and belongings shall belong to Master, to be shared or kept as He sees fit. Slave, owning nothing and having agreed to give up all worldly possessions and body to Master, shall once again own her body, but nothing else.
8.0.0 Slave's Signature
I have read and fully understand this Slavery Contract in its entirety. I agree to give everything I own to my Master, and further accept His claim of ownership over my physical body, heart, soul, and mind. I understand that I will be commanded and trained and punished as a slave, and I promise to be true and to fulfill the pleasures and desires of my Master, and serve Him to the best of my abilities. I understand that I cannot withdraw from this Slavery Contract.
Signature: slave...................... Date............................
8.0.1 Master's Signature
I have read and fully understand this Slavery Contract in its entirety. I agree to accept this slave as my property, body and possessions, and to care for her to the best of my ability. I shall provide for her security and well-being and command her, train her, and punish her as a slave. I understand the responsibility implicit in this arrangement, and agree that no harm shall come to slave as long as she is mine. I further understand that I can withdraw from this Slavery Contract at any time.
Signature: Master....................... Date: ......................
slave, previously in possession of her own person, agrees and states that she wishes and intends to deliver herself entirely into the hands of ....................... her Master. Master agrees and states that he wishes and intends to take possession of slave.
By signing this Slavery Contract, it is agreed that slave gives up all rights to her own person in every manner, and that Master takes entire possession of slave as property, claiming for himself her life, her future, and her heart and mind.
1.0.0 Slave's Role
(a) Slave agrees to obey and submit completely to Master in all ways. There are no boundaries of place, time, or situation in which the slave may willfully refuse to obey the directive of Master, except in situations where the slave's veto (section 2.0.1) applies.
(b) Slave also agrees that, once entered into the Slavery Contract, her body belongs to her Master, to be used as seen fit.
(c) All of slave's possessions likewise belong to Master, including all assets, finances, and material goods, to do with as he sees fit.
(d) Slave agrees to please Master to the best of her ability, in that she now exists solely for the pleasure of Master.
(e) Slave understands that all that she has, and all that she does, shall now move from right to privilege, granted only as He wishes, and only to the extent that He finds useful.
2.0.0 Safewords
If slave feels that a situation is approaching a boundary unforeseen, slave may utter the safeword "Yellow" signifying this. Master accepts the responsibility of assessing situations where slave calls the safeword and will, to the best of His ability, make judgment on whether to modify the activity or stop activity entirely. Slave agrees to hold no ill will due to Master's decision. Master agrees not to punish slave for the use of the safeword.
2.0.1 Slave's Veto
Slave, where appropriate, holds veto power over any command given by Master, at which time she may rightfully refuse to obey that command. This shall be signified by the safeword "Red." Utterance of the safeword "Red" necessitates immediate termination of activity, is considered a veto, and is grounds for termination of Slavery Contract.
3.0.0 Slave's Behavior: General
(a) Slave will strive diligently to remold slave's body, appearance, habits, and attitudes in accordance with Master's desires. Slave agrees to change the slave's actions, speech, and dress to express the ownership. Slave will always speak of her Master in terms of love and respect, and address Him appropriately (i.e. "Master", "Sir", "Daddy", "Keeper", etc.) when so directed.
(b) Slave will seek to learn how to please Master better, and will gracefully accept any criticism in whatever form Master chooses.
(c) Slave renounces all rights to privacy or concealment from Master. This includes but is not limited to photography and video photography of slave, in any situation, to be used and displayed in any manner Master sees fit.
(d) Slave agrees to confess all of slave's desires and fetishes for the Master's consideration.
(e) Slave will answer truthfully and completely, to the best of the slave's knowledge, any and all questions Master may ask of slave. Slave will volunteer any information her Master should know about her physical or emotional condition.
(f) When in the same room as her Master, slave will ask permission before leaving the room, explain where she is going, and why. This includes but is not limited to asking permission to use the restroom.
(g) Slave shall be responsible for maintaining the cleanliness and availability of all toys. None shall be used without the express permission of Master, unless agreed to beforehand.
(h) Slave is responsible for maintenance and completion of all household chores. This includes, but is not limited to, the following:
(i) cooking all meals; including preparing food for Master while He is at work,
(ii) cleaning; including vacuuming, dusting, and maintaining the kitchen, bathrooms, and porches,
(iii) laundry and dry cleaning,
(iv) paying all bills in a timely fashion,
(v) running errands and shopping,
(vi) laying out clothes for Master before work.
3.0.1 Slave's Dress/Body/Appearance
(a) Slave shall diligently maintain and adorn slave's body parts in such manner as will ensure that they are fully open and available to Master. Slave's body parts shall be able to be displayed by slave in public or private, to others or to Him, when so ordered.
(b) Slave shall never close nor cross her legs in Master's presence, unless specific permission to do so is granted.
(c) Slave shall never wear undergarments at any time, except when allowed to wear shorts or pants, and shall cover no part of her body with apparel or material of any description, except when the act of doing so, and the design of the item of apparel or material, are expressly approved by Master.
(d) Miniskirts, boots or shoes-with-heels, garters and stockings, and revealing tops or dresses shall be the mainstay of public attire.
(e) Slave shall keep slave's body parts clean-shaven or waxed at the direction of the Master.
(f) Slave shall keep slave's hair cut, styled, and colored as directed by Master.
(g) Slave shall keep slave's fingers and toenails painted and maintained as directed by Master.
(h) Master has the right to tattoo or have tattooed, pierce or have pierced, or brand or have branded slave's body.
(i) Slave will wear, at all times, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, a token of her possession, given to her by Master.
4.0.0 Master's Role
Master accepts the responsibility of slave's body and worldly possessions, to do with as He sees fit. Master agrees to love, care for, protect, and cherish slave, and to arrange for the safety and well-being of slave. Master also accepts the commitment to train the slave, punish the slave, love the slave, and use the slave as He sees fit.
5.0.0 Punishment
Slave agrees to accept any punishment Master decides to inflict, whether earned or not. Slave agrees that severe punishment may be assessed for any infraction of the letter or spirit of this Slavery Contract, and will accept the correction gratefully. The form and extent of the punishment shall be at the Master's pleasure. He may punish her without reason to please Himself. Slave enjoys the right to cry, scream, or beg, but accepts the fact that these heartfelt expressions will not affect her treatment. Further, she accepts that if her Master tires of her noise, He may gag her or take other actions to silence her.
6.0.0 Other People
(a) Slave may not seek any other Master or lover, or relate to others in any sexual or submissive way, either in "real time", or "virtual" or "cyber" time, without Master's permission. To do so will be considered a breach of Slavery Contract, and will result in extreme punishment or Slavery Contract termination.
(b) Master may accept other slaves or lovers, but must consider slave's emotional response to such actions.
(c) Slave agrees that her Master possesses the right to determine whether others can use her body and to what use they may put it. Master will discuss all such instances in advance with slave. Slave has no say in the choice of these other partners, with the exception that play with others must be "safe" in terms of the exchange of bodily fluids.
7.0.0 Alteration of Slavery Contract
This Slavery Contract may not be altered, except when both Master and slave agree. If the Slavery Contract is altered, the new Slavery Contract shall be printed and signed, and then the old Slavery Contract must be destroyed.
7.0.1 Termination of Slavery Contract
This Slavery Contract may be terminated at any time by Master, but never by slave. Upon termination, all materials and belongings shall belong to Master, to be shared or kept as He sees fit. Slave, owning nothing and having agreed to give up all worldly possessions and body to Master, shall once again own her body, but nothing else.
8.0.0 Slave's Signature
I have read and fully understand this Slavery Contract in its entirety. I agree to give everything I own to my Master, and further accept His claim of ownership over my physical body, heart, soul, and mind. I understand that I will be commanded and trained and punished as a slave, and I promise to be true and to fulfill the pleasures and desires of my Master, and serve Him to the best of my abilities. I understand that I cannot withdraw from this Slavery Contract.
Signature: slave...................... Date............................
8.0.1 Master's Signature
I have read and fully understand this Slavery Contract in its entirety. I agree to accept this slave as my property, body and possessions, and to care for her to the best of my ability. I shall provide for her security and well-being and command her, train her, and punish her as a slave. I understand the responsibility implicit in this arrangement, and agree that no harm shall come to slave as long as she is mine. I further understand that I can withdraw from this Slavery Contract at any time.
Signature: Master....................... Date: ......................
Empress of the Moon
Quote by SlavePrincess
I agree with these statements too. If I never was able to trust my Master, I wouldn't have wanted to start the relationship. Everything that happens in BDSM relationships is all about trust. Yes, I agree.
But in regards to the contract. If the Master/Dom is pushing the slave WAY beyond what that person can handle, that is a breach in contract. It also depends on what 1.limits and 2. pushing beyond limits are defined as in the contract and understood between the two individuals.
Living in this lifestyle I have come to realize that in regards to a contract there are different ways of exiting. If the contract is broken, then duh.. there is the exit.
I don't know the OP's thoughts behind putting forth the question. I found it interesting and was trying to provoke conversation. If I had asked the question in my words, I'd ask.
Besides breaking the contract and re-evaluating it, should there be an additional clause added that allows a slave to decide whenever/however he/she is allowed to terminate the M/s relationship? Should a SLAVE be allowed to have that power?
First of all, the slave should have the right to leave the relationship at any time. That is the extent of freedom a slave should be allowed. If you're going to stay in a relationship that's it. If you are being pushed beyond your capabilities you should consider if you belong in the relationship. If you really can't handle it leave. If you have set hard limits, your Master or Mistress has a duty to abide by those. Failing to do that voids any contract you may have with the other person.
What works best for me in my relationship is a blanket consent with a safeword. I like being pushed and having my limits tested. If my partner doesn't stop at the password, that would damage our relationship. On my part, I don't use the safeword to get out of punishments that I deserve. I trust him to know my limits and needs, but I also need him to push me to expand them.
Empress of the Moon
I've always thought that Master should be capitalized when it's referring to a specific person. "I told Master that I'd be home by six." If you put the word my in front of it, capitalizing doesn't seem necessary. "I told my master I'd be home by six." I had never really given it much thought though. The words master and sir are used differently than the names Master and Sir, at least by me. I was hoping for more of a consensus.
Empress of the Moon
It takes a really close and trusting relationship to make it work. If you're in a relationship which is strong there's a better chance that it would work. A shaky relationship would just get weaker. If you're just offering a hall pass because you want one yourself, the odds are your relationship is already in trouble.
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depends... are you upfront about telling your spouse that you're having cyber sex and if so, are they ok with it? if so, then no, it's not cheating. that's my thought - if you're keeping it a secret, hiding it from him, then you're being dishonest and yes, it is cheating.
My boyfriend knows that I cyber sometime. He usually doesn't care. Sometimes he watches over my shoulder. If he thinks I'm going to far he asks me to stop, and I do. I'm not supposed to cyber with guys without asking him first, but I have a couple of times when he wasn't home, but I always told him after. It's an easy way for me to get a spanking.
There are secrets in every relationship though. I've cybered with guys who don't want their girlfriends to know about it. And girls, I might add.
What really keeps me from cybering more though is that some guys get too demanding. They want a relationship that I'm not willing to have. I have a relationship already. I'm just on here for fun and games. Quick, dirty fun.
Empress of the Moon
Not wanting to eat roadkill is just a cultural thing you know. Many Asians don't like eating cheese, which they think of as spoiled milk, most westerners balk at the idea of eating insects, no matter how tasty and protein packed they are. Many people, raised on supermarket meat, don't want to eat deer or any meat from a hunted animal. Others, myself included, don't want to eat an animal that was killed by a car and has been lying in the road for hours or days being picked at by buzzards and rodents. Everyone has some standards in cuisine, and they are mostly due to our upbringing. LadyX is right. With enough sauce and msg it could have been a very tasty Mongolian beef dish. Yummy. Most American Chinese restaurants rely on their sauces and whatever meat and vegetables are available locally. Beef and broccoli is one of my favorites. I'm sure roadkill deer and broccoli would be equally delicious, as long as you didn't know it was roadkill.
I have eaten lots of pieces of chicken in Chinese places that didn't look like any piece I've ever cut off a chicken. Who knows whats really hiding in a dumpling? There are always stories, mostly legend I hope, about cats and dogs being found in freezers in Chinese restaurants. I love Chinese food, at least the variety of Chinese food that is available in the USA. I'd love to eat in China. In Chinese restaurants in China there are things on the menu that would probably get the chef arrested in the USA.
I'd like to recommend The Fortune Cookie Chronicles by Jennifer 8 Lee. It's a very interesting book about Chinese in America, Chinese food and Chinese restaurants. There are things that I never knew about how American Chinese restaurants are staffed and run. It's a fun read, and you can learn all about the real General Tso. He was nothing like Colonel Sanders.
I have eaten lots of pieces of chicken in Chinese places that didn't look like any piece I've ever cut off a chicken. Who knows whats really hiding in a dumpling? There are always stories, mostly legend I hope, about cats and dogs being found in freezers in Chinese restaurants. I love Chinese food, at least the variety of Chinese food that is available in the USA. I'd love to eat in China. In Chinese restaurants in China there are things on the menu that would probably get the chef arrested in the USA.
I'd like to recommend The Fortune Cookie Chronicles by Jennifer 8 Lee. It's a very interesting book about Chinese in America, Chinese food and Chinese restaurants. There are things that I never knew about how American Chinese restaurants are staffed and run. It's a fun read, and you can learn all about the real General Tso. He was nothing like Colonel Sanders.
Empress of the Moon
The subject of figging doesn't seem to come up much, unless I bring it up myself. It figures slightly in my most recent story though. I can't believe as many people haven't heard of it as say they haven't when I tell them about it. I was ready to try it the first time I heard about it. I haven't tried one to the peehole yet though. Thanks ginger86.
Empress of the Moon
Quote by FelineFantasy
I can be pretty picky with sizes and flattering fits so I'd pass on his choosing, but I'd make a fun event out of shopping and having a dressing room peep show and quickie sex to follow ;)
I would like for my boyfriend to pay for my underwear and lingerie, but I'd rather pick it out myself. He can make suggestions of course.
Empress of the Moon
I have had talks with guys on here about politics, music, and literature, the big three of my interests outside of sex. I haven't talked sports much because aside from being a Bulldog and Brave fan I really don't know much about sports. Those are about the only things I talk to real life guys about too. There is always some gossip with guys I work with, of course. I don't really know anyone on Lush well enough to gossip with. I had one fairly long interesting conversation about hallucinogens with one guy. Mostly it's sex though.
Empress of the Moon
I can make myself come without sexual intercourse. I don't see why a guy shouldn't be able to make me. It depends on what you consider sexual intercourse of course. If blow jobs don't count as sexual intercourse, or hand jobs, I've made a lot of guys come without it.
Empress of the Moon
I don't like to be whispered in chat rooms, unless I'm conspiring with a friend. I have private chats from time to time, but I'm only supposed to cyber if my boyfriend is looking on. It's really not private that way, and I always tell people that. Of course sometimes I have private chats when he's not looking on, but with his permission or if I'm looking for something to confess to that will get me spanked pretty hard.
People who just come into chat rooms and don't know me and start whispering annoy me. I changed my setting so that only friends can whisper me now, so that shouldn't happen anymore. I like the exposure of everyone seeing what I have to say in chat rooms. It's sort of oral exhibitionism I suppose.
People who just come into chat rooms and don't know me and start whispering annoy me. I changed my setting so that only friends can whisper me now, so that shouldn't happen anymore. I like the exposure of everyone seeing what I have to say in chat rooms. It's sort of oral exhibitionism I suppose.