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Quote by SereneProdigy
Sorry people, but this thread has in fact nothing to do with swimsuits...
Dancing_Doll presented this case with questions that opened up for a weightier discussion (no pun intended), and I'm sure that she would have asked the exact same questions if this model appeared in a sex-shop advertisement, in a romantic movie or on the cover of an erotica novel. This is about the physiques that we instill as models, and yes, fitness and health have a lot to do with it.
Besides, I'm not quite sure how the charts I presented are supposed to be any 'outdated'. Do health standards/references come as some kinds of fads?
Anyway, I'm off smoking a pack of Marlboro; believing that cigarettes are harmful for your health is so last-year.
I am sure Dancing_Doll would have posted this in the Think Tank if it were supposed to be a weighter debatable thread.
This is the "En Vogue" forum. What is debatable here in this forum? Dark blue jeans or stone washed jeans? Hobbo attire or couture fashion??
It's really all about .... what do people perceive as being sexy? A few have answered ... some long winded, some with little fanfare.
Enjoy those smokes!
Sarcastic Coffee Aficionado
Without making a long song and dance here 
.... we are talking about the SI Swimsuit edition.
Swimsuits!
Nothing at all about this edition is about fitness. It's all about the skimpiest (did they get away with that?? comments) swimsuits ... and in past editions, some of those swimsuits were painted on! Hell, most men never buy any other edition except for the Swimsuit Edition!
I know SereneProdigy and many others here are totally in tune (and in love) with Jenna Renee's diet and workout. But that is not the "normal" .... most people want to enjoy their food and (hopefully) enjoy their workout to have some balance in their life and bodies. I'm all for moderation.
I applaud, any woman who is curvy and confident with herself, to do what is the norm with a skinny waif.
I am not alone to say .... woohooo Ashley .... you go girl!!
Van
PS .... The BMI charts are not 100% correct .... there are problems with them that are noted by medical professionals, as follows:
BMI does not account for body frame size; a person may have a small frame and be carrying more fat than optimal, but their BMI reflects that they are normal. Conversely, a large framed individual may be quite healthy with a fairly low body fat percentage, but be classified as overweight by BMI. Accurate frame size calculators use several measurements (wrist circumference, elbow width, neck circumference and others) to determine what category an individual falls into for a given height. The standard is to use frame size in conjunction with ideal height/weight charts and add roughly 10% for a large frame or subtract roughly 10% for a smaller frame.
.... we are talking about the SI Swimsuit edition. Swimsuits!
Nothing at all about this edition is about fitness. It's all about the skimpiest (did they get away with that?? comments) swimsuits ... and in past editions, some of those swimsuits were painted on! Hell, most men never buy any other edition except for the Swimsuit Edition!
I know SereneProdigy and many others here are totally in tune (and in love) with Jenna Renee's diet and workout. But that is not the "normal" .... most people want to enjoy their food and (hopefully) enjoy their workout to have some balance in their life and bodies. I'm all for moderation.
I applaud, any woman who is curvy and confident with herself, to do what is the norm with a skinny waif.
I am not alone to say .... woohooo Ashley .... you go girl!!
Van
PS .... The BMI charts are not 100% correct .... there are problems with them that are noted by medical professionals, as follows:
BMI does not account for body frame size; a person may have a small frame and be carrying more fat than optimal, but their BMI reflects that they are normal. Conversely, a large framed individual may be quite healthy with a fairly low body fat percentage, but be classified as overweight by BMI. Accurate frame size calculators use several measurements (wrist circumference, elbow width, neck circumference and others) to determine what category an individual falls into for a given height. The standard is to use frame size in conjunction with ideal height/weight charts and add roughly 10% for a large frame or subtract roughly 10% for a smaller frame.
Sarcastic Coffee Aficionado
Quote by SereneProdigy
I lot of things come to my mind when I see this... but to narrow it down I'd say that it's pretty ridiculous to me.
First of all, I just checked the bio of this model: Height: 5'9", Weight: 170 lbs. Now take a look at any weight chart, and you'll find out that this is in fact overweight. And I'm not talking about 'Hollywood overweight' or 'fashion model overweight', this is considered to be overweight by the medical community. At these levels of body fat, a few health concerns arise: it's far from being optimal in terms of overall health (ie. cardiovascular system, blood lipids, cholesterol, insulin resistance, posture, joint health, skin conditions, etc.).
And we should consider her to be some sort of model? Or a representation of what women should strive to be? And the very little willpower necessary to achieve such a physique is supposed to be any 'inspirational'? Give me a break.
first of all .... this mentality makes me so mad!!
Fuck you and all those who think that women at 5'9" should be 120 lbs or less. There is something that is called "frame" .... just like men, there are variations to frame, how someone carries their weight and what is healthy.
Fuck you and all those who think that fitness is called "skinny or thin" .... because one's fitness is not linked to how they look ... but how their heart health is.
The rest of your post .... would make anyone fall asleep .... like you are droning on and on.
Quote by SereneProdigy
As far as I'm concerned, this fitness model (Jenna Renee) is quite a lot more inspirational:
And no, this isn't about simply admiring a hot babe that features sexy curves and a nice ass: this is about giving all you've got to be the best possible version of yourself and collect the many benefits associated with it (ie. optimal health, discipline, self-esteem, pride, attractiveness, etc.).
Who are YOU to insinuate that Ashley Graham hasn't GIVEN ALL SHE'S GOT to be the way she is?? She may be healthier than the 5'2" 98 lb woman who is naturally a size 0.
Like so many men .... you just look at the visual.
Fuck .... the mentality of some people .... better than the rest.
Grow up.
Sarcastic Coffee Aficionado
I can't wait, to be honest. I loved the book and the movie. (shocking I know, most love the book and hate the movie)
Perhaps Ms. Lee is a one-hit wonder .... but honestly, what a one-hit wonder!! I wish I could be so lucky!
I hope we will continue this thread with our review of this new book.
Van
Perhaps Ms. Lee is a one-hit wonder .... but honestly, what a one-hit wonder!! I wish I could be so lucky!
I hope we will continue this thread with our review of this new book.
Van
