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Anyone else think the "secret" told to Tommen Lannister was a setup, a trap? One that always shortsighted and predictable Cersei bought; hook, line, and sinker?

Also, that letter Ramsay sent to Castle Black... no way Ramsay wrote that. That letter was sent by Littlefinger. "Come and see". Spoken to Robin Arryn at the Vale, when Littlefinger showed him the falcon. Written, verbatim, "Come and see" in the letter to Jon & Sansa.
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No, and let me explain very quickly why.

The reader's perception takes precedence over the writer's intent. Every time. That word has a negative, derogatory connotation. I would never (and really do mean the absolute never) pass a story with that word anywhere in it, because the hate it implies has no place here. You may not mean for it to be hateful, but that doesn't matter to someone who's had a horrible experience around that word. See what I mean?


This is something I can't quite agree with. It would be impossible to write anything from the point of view of readers' perception. Every reader's perception is different. Take for example a woman from an abusive relationship. I'd venture to guess that during some of that physical abuse, there was also verbal and psychological abuse with words like bitch, cunt, and whore. To THAT woman, those words are hateful. Her perception and experience with those words is horrible. Should we ban the use of those words too? Where does it end if we limit word usage based on the experiences of everyone? I know that most of the women in my life would object a whole lot more to being called a whore vs being called a . They'd also react a lot more to being called a bitch. Most husbands will tell you, you call your wife a bitch and you can expect world war III to commence. Those women's perception of will vary from that of a lesbian who has been derogatively called a .

Does bitch or whore have less derogatory connotations that ? I guess it would depend on who you asked. What about bastard? Redneck? Hillbilly? How negative is too negative?
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First, let me thank you for the reasoned and thought out response without hyperbolie.

As I mentioned to you when we first spoke, these rules cover a lot of grey area. When I run into them, I do what I did with yours. I take it to the team for a discussion about the word in question, and the context that it is used. In your case, it was used as a slur against the main character. As such, the grey area was removed and it was clearly in violation of our rules.

As to those 50-60 stories out of the thousands here, I have little desire to go back and be the time cop on our older stories. If someone finds one to be offensive, they can file a complaint and we will look at it and try to contact the author. Otherwise, we aren't going to be proactive.

If, as does happen with new stories, a word or other content is passed that should not have, we as mods will be proactive. I recieved a complaint last week regarding copywrited material, and we edited it out on the spot. Then we contacted the author and explained why the action was taken.

Small edits to correct such mistakes are performed behind the scenes when we determine the mistake was innocent. If it was gross negligence on our part, or something heinous in the story, stronger steps are taken.

Is the process perfect? No. It will likely never be. We process too many stories everyday, and the rules have changed too much over time for it to be. Personally, as a writer, I dislike censorship as well. My instincts would be to allow much more latitude. On the other hand, I have seen where this leads. The unmoderated work we sort through will sometimes contain content that has sickened me. I wouldn't want to be part of a site that allowed the things I've seen submitted.

With that in mind, there is going to be censorship. So, the only question is, where is the line drawn. At hate speech, or somewhere else. Irregardless, someone is going to complain it's wrong. In their minds, it's their story that should be okay. Well, we can't win against that mind set. Someone will always be pushing and screaming censorship.

The rules are the rules. It simply comes down to that.


I understand they are the rules, that's just the way it is. My only recourse is to not participate in that portion of the site. I would like to add one thing though. I'm not against it because it's my story, I'd be against it for any story. And yes, my use of the word was ugly intentionally. Used to illustrate the bigotry of the villain of the story. Certainly not used to condone or promote that line of thinking.
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words that i have told my mods not to let pass as it now stands:

the N word, and variations.
the F word (as bad as the N word, imo, not matter how it's used)
i'll get go as long as it's not used in a hateful way - if i get feedback otherwise, i'll add it. same with "tranny".
" " - if you put " " in a story, not only will it get struck down, i'm probably going to send the story back with a stern warning.


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In the EP story you referance, the individual in question was calling themself the offending word, a vastly different situation than using it as hate speech. In the Recommended Read, the story is a 19k word behemoth that was written in 2012. Even though it is now a 149 vote, solid 5 story, it wouldn't pass today. That doesn't mean we are going to kick it back three years after the fact.

We have 30 thousand plus stories on the site. With thousands more having been deleted or rejected over the years. Seriously, we are likely talking about over 100,000 stories that have been moderated, so I'm not going to worry overly much about the couple dozen that got through. We do very well for an all volunteer group.


Okay, so is the word offensive no matter how it's used? Or is the word not offensive or hate speech depending how the context of it's use?

We aren't talking about 100,000's of stories. A quick and easy search of a couple of those words turns up 50-60 stories. In fact, if the word is offensive no matter what, then you don't even have to read the story. Search for stories with the word, then delete them. Hate speech is hate speech and they should be purged. For that few stories, it shouldn't take very long at all.

Writing should be provocative, it should push the envelope whenever the author wishes to do so. Censorship only stifles creativity and stifles the growth of the writer and the reader. I'm not a very good writer. Hell, I'm not even a mediocre writer, which is why I rarely write. But, I've read worse. Banning words does more harm than good. It insulates us from experiencing the good and bad in people, as expressed through characters in a story. Be it erotica or anything else.

I understand that Lush has banned certain words. I've accepted that there is a ban and there's nothing I can do about it. As such, I will remain in the shadows and enjoy using Lush to keep up with my friends here.
After searching for stories with one of the offending words, I found 52 stories. One was written by a mod and is listed as an "Editor's Pick" and another story is a "Recommended Read".
In a perfect world, no, it isn't a deal breaker. In reality.... it depends.

If she (or he, for that matter) is 18 years old and has been with 300 people, then I'd have to reconsider. Clearly, there is something more than just wanting to have fun going on. There could be something deeper happening. Not that I'd ever ask how many people a partner has been with. But, if she volunteered this info, I'd want to know more.

If the number is high because she spent an extended amount of time working as a prostitute and slept with 1000 Johns, yes, it could be a deal breaker. It isn't necessarily the number of partners that would concern me, but the emotional toll could be something i'm not up for. Not to mention if she's become jaded about sex/men/love in the process.

If she's a 40+ year old woman that's spent years having fun, carefree, casual sex however and whenever she wanted and accumulated a high number; that wouldn't bother me in the least.

If she's only been with 3 guys, but one of them is her prepubescent son, I'd be out. Like above, it isn't the number as much as it is who/what/when/where/why reasons for the number.
Quit my job, buy a lot of isolated land/acreage, build a good size house and a couple little satellite house. Plant lots of veggies, get some horses and cows, but 4-wheelers and tractors and live mostly off the land. Come to town for the ocassional grocery shop and to play golf. Avoid the general public whenever possible.
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Run this picture through google images and see what horrible similar images it returns. One of them is a man's chest, another is a man's back, one is a woman's nose and lips. I can't understand that last one. Anyway, thanks. You too Gael.


Then google images is an asshole. Your picture is quite lovely and I hope they always remain just as they are there. Healthy and free of any cancer.
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Ummmm I'd like to point out that SJ is not the only person you're gonna send bankrupt for the cause lol. A very generous anonymous lushie has also pledged to match and donate whatever the final tally is for the boob show. Is like to point out also, the cost of the gold membership is not being taken from any of the other money raised.

Come on we need more BEWBS. LM is our in-house boob man, show us yer tits LM. !









No one is going to fine mine to be titillating, but here they are. I admire you ladies and the courage it takes to expose yourselves for a worthy cause. I lost my grandmother to breast cancer. She was a wonderful woman and was taken from us way too soon.
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where's yours, buddy? come on, unleash those babies.


I doubt mine will do much to further the cause, but I'll do it if you will.
Come one ladies, it's for a good cause. My lovely friend Trinket flashed her's, don't leave her hanging.
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Now this poor bugger, who is suffering a "show must go on" moment, must really be embarrassed. I wonder what the audience, especially the women, are thinking

What would you think?


This is either photoshopped or staged. Male ballet dancers wear a dance belt to hold all their goods in place. Not so much to hide erections, but rather to keep stuff from bounding around in thin tights/leotards or whatever they're called.
I thought some of you might enjoy this.

10 Popular Grammar Myths Debunked Probably easier to read by clicking the link than the copied/pasted article below.

Some of the grammar rules you learned in school could be messing up your writing.

Elementary-school students learning how to write simultaneously learn the rules of grammar, and the two approaches can be difficult to balance.
It's why many teachers ingrain in their students a combination of white lies and formal habits that are meant to keep their writing focused but aren't actually based on rules of the English language.

As the students grow into adults, these habits result in plenty of incorrectly worded but well-intentioned sentences.

Harvard cognitive scientist and linguist Steven Pinker explores some of the most common myths and the mistakes they produce in his book "The Sense of Style," which is like a modern version of Strunk and White's classic "The Elements of Style," based on linguistics and updated for the 21st century.

Pinker strips popular grammar guides of the 20th century of their sanctity and instead delves into the evolution of English and how it was constructed and used for centuries to determine what is correct.

Here are some of the grammar myths that may be muddling your writing.

"You can't begin a sentence with a conjunction."

Teachers instruct young students that it is incorrect to begin a sentence with a conjunction (and, because, but, or, so, also) because it helps keep them from writing in fragments, Pinker writes, but it's advice that adults don't need to follow.

Avoid writing an ugly "megasentence" full of connected independent clauses, and feel free to start a sentence with a conjunction.

"All subjects preceding a gerund need to take the possessive form."

H.W. Fowler coined the term "fused participle" in his 1926 book "A Dictionary of Modern English Usage" to denote gerunds with unmarked subjects.

According to Fowler, in She approved of Sheila taking the job, Sheila and taking have become a horrid fused participle, and the only correct form is She approved of Sheila's taking the job.

Pinker argues that the gerunds with unmarked subject format preceded the other form and are grammatically acceptable but not always the best choice in terms of style or clarity.

There are also times when the "rule" results in a poor sentence like I was annoyed by the people behind me in line's being served first and thus should not be seen as restrictive.


"Like cannot be followed by a clause or be used to introduce examples."

The word like got a lot of flack from highbrow writers and media folk in 1954 when R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company premiered the slogan, "Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should." They said that "like" was a preposition, not a conjunction, and could take only a noun phrase object, as in crazy like a fox. The correct form would have taken as, they argued.

Pinker says the morally righteous argument was an incorrect one. Just because like is a preposition doesn't mean it can't take a clausal complement. In fact, that form appears in 600 years of English, including in the works of master writers such as William Shakespeare and Mark Twain. Use like or as freely, Pinker says, and be aware that as is slightly more formal.

Similarly, there's a common "bogus rule" that such as, not like, is the proper way to introduce examples. Both are legitimate. In Many technical terms have become familiar, such as "cloning" and "DNA," the form like "cloning" and "DNA" is also acceptable.

"Possessive antecedents must explicitly precede possessive adjectives."

The following sentence appeared in the verbal section of a 2002 College Board exam, and students were asked to identify an error if there was one: Toni Morrison's genius enables her to create novels that arise from and express the injustices African Americans have endured. The correct response was "no error," but a high-school teacher argued that her was incorrect because it doesn't have a noun to refer back to.

Pinker says that he found this "rule" only in the work of a "usage maven in the 1960s" and that it is simply not based in the construction of English.

The one thing to look out for, he says, is making sure the antecedent is clear. For example, it would be confusing to write Sophie's mother thinks she's fat because it's unclear who she's is referring to.

"You must never use a preposition to end a sentence."

"There is nothing, repeat nothing, wrong with Who are you looking at? or The better to see you with or We are such stuff as dreams are made on or It's you she's thinking of," Pinker writes.

The "pseudo-rule" is entirely based on a 17th-century quibble between the English poet John Dryden and his rival poet Ben Jonson, in which Dryden mistakenly transferred a Latin rule to English. In Latin, Pinker writes, "the equivalent to a preposition is attached to the noun and cannot be separated from it."


"A pronoun serving as the complement of be must be in the nominative case (I, he, she, we, they)."

If the above rule were true, it would be incorrect to say, "Hi, it's me," since it should be, "Hi, it's I." This is another misconception based on equating Latin rules with English rules and declaring formal English as the only acceptable version of the language, Pinker says.

In English, the accusative case (me, him, her, us, them) is the default and "can be used anywhere except in the subject of a tensed verb," Pinker says.

"You must never split an infinitive."

"Most mythical usage rules are merely harmless," Pinker writes, but the "prohibition of split infinitives ... is downright pernicious." According to this pseudo-rule, you can't split the word to from its verb, as in to surrender. Once again, Pinker says, this is based on incorrectly equating Latin with English.

Pinker says following it results in "monstrosities" like Hobbes concluded that the only way out of the mess is for everyone permanently to surrender to an authoritarian ruler.

"Than and as need to precede clauses, not noun phrases."

According to many teaching methods, Rose is smarter than him is the incorrect version of Rose is smarter than he, but Pinker says that both are correct and that the latter is only the formal choice.

"Like the words before and like, which we examined earlier, the words than and as are not conjunctions in the first place but prepositions that take a clause as a complement," he writes. "The only question is whether they may also take a noun phrase as a complement. Several centuries of great writers ... have voted with their pens, and the answer is yes."

"That and which cannot be interchangeably used before clauses."

According to the "rule," nonrestrictive clauses (those set off by commas, dashes, or parentheses) must be introduced by which and restrictive clauses (those that are essential to the sentence) must be introduced by that. Pinker acknowledges that in most situations it sounds better to follow this construction, but rather than being a rule of grammar it is just another invention from H.W. Fowler's "A Dictionary of Modern English Usage."

"New words and usages degrade the language."

Pinker welcomes rather than scoffs at new additions to the dictionary, since languages are living things.

"Neologisms also replenish the lexical richness of a language, compensating for the unavoidable loss of words and erosion of senses," he writes. "Much of the joy of writing comes from shopping from the hundreds of thousands of words that English makes available, and it's good to remember that each of them was a neologism in its day."
Does this really happen? As an adult, I can't think of a time that I got a full hard-on out in public for no particular reason other than looking at/seeing a hot girl. Have I gotten semi-hard on occasion? Yes. Wood like that? No. Not unless someone did something specific and intentional to make it happen. If I did get a 10 out 10 on the erection meter, I sure wouldn't be walking around for anyone to see it.
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What a person does in their private lives is their business and nobody elses. If they are cheating and their partner finds out, then they will have to live with the fallout. Nobody, including the hackers, should have the right to be the morality police and go around explosing people for things they disagree with (unless those things are illegal). The hackers did break the law by doing this and as a former victom of hacker related identity theft, these hackers deserve to be exposed and prosecuted.

I also doubt that everone on that site is a cheat. I expect some are just singles looking for a hookup.


Well said and I totally agree. People's lives will be ruined. I guess we should put a big red A on all of them.
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I'm just happy he does it! When he does it, isn't that critical, but if he cums in my mouth, he's got nothing better to do than lick my pussy till he can get it up again, so...


Well put.
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I see that all the sociological and philosophical responses have already been covered (not that there is anything wrong with them), so I'll just give the short answer - yes, I have given it up for money. I wanted to go through the process once and see how it made me feel, and I was surprisingly neutral. Didn't feel bad for doing it, and also didn't feel like it was anything I needed to do again. At least I don't think so...


I think there's an important distinction to be made here. Being paid for sex in order to fulfill a fantasy or "go through the process to see how it made you feel" is wholly different from being paid for sex because you have no other option (or at least, think you have no other option). It's easy to feel neutral about it when you aren't doing it in order to pay your rent or groceries for your kid.

I'm not calling you out or questioning your integrity, just pointing out that necessity may change the outlook of someone else who sells sex.

Most people that take money for giving sex, do so because they have to. Those people's feelings will differ greatly from feeling neutral. They'll feel anger, contempt, depression, and I'm sure quite a lot of other things. When your next meal, or rent, or your next fix, or getting a $1000 repair to your car paid for can only be paid via sex, you won't be as easily able to decide it isn't anything you'd need to do again.

No judgement either way. If I were in the position that I needed to sell sex to get by or clothe/feed/house my kids, I'd do so without hesitation.
On myself? Maybe my eyelashes since they're really long and women always say they wish they had them? Not much on me really stands out.

Her... well defined calves/ankles/achilles.. rawr
I had some friends set me up with someone once. We talked on the phone a few times and had good conversations, so we set up a date. I was nervous as hell too. I go to pick her up at her apartment, knock on the door, and she answers with a huge smile on her face. Fucking fuck, she looked exactly like my mother. Same height, same build, same expressions, and the same fucking hair style. Totally freaked me the fuck out. Man, that was weird. No way I could have ever fooled around with her so we never went out again.
Bring back the page selector on the home page. Having to scroll one by one through pages 1, 2, 3, 4, .... 8 to get to page 10 (or whatever) is tedious.
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Finally actually hanging out with my buddy CG!!!

Of course, I've just realised its Friday!! Nobody tell her, eek!!!


The Gash Hound approves this post.
Melisandre abandoned Stannis when she saw that Stannis lost the battle.... she knew then that he wasn't the "rightful heir" with no King's blood and that the fire god was through with him. She left for Castle Black, Jon Snow who may actually have King's blood... (spoiler) and maybe she revives Jon. I sure as fuck hope so.