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Weird that you would recognize the bird as a chicken, but not its egg as a chicken's egg
No, like I mentioned earlier, it's whether you define a chicken's egg as an egg laid by a chicken or an egg from which a chicken hatches.
Sure, there were plenty of eggs before chickens: dinosaur/reptilian/amphibian/fish eggs etc. But I don't think those are the eggs that are referred to in the question.

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do you define sound as the perception (what happens in ones ear) or the potential (the audible waves)?

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Um, wouldn't the proto-chicken's egg be a proto-chicken egg, regardless if it happen to contain the first, mutant chicken? Then that mutant chicken would have laid the first chicken egg? I wonder, does one describe the egg by who laid it. Or by what came out?

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what came first? The chicken or the egg?

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The ear senses the different pressures and waves hitting it, and depending on the pressure and/or wave it tells the brain how 'loud' or 'close' something it. It is the ear converting that wave into sound, that makes a sound.

I'm only repeating what I've already said, and so this is my last post on the matter as either you can't grasp or disagree with what I'm saying, but....

The effects of a tree falling down will result in the potential for someone to hear it should they be there or not. But sound is a perception. Sound is your brain trying to make sense of the world. Sound itself isn't a something that happens naturally. Sound only becomes apparent in the minds of someone who can experience it.

As I said, other creatures would take that same vibration, from the tree falling, and be able to see it. Not hear it, but see it, because their brain manipulates the shock waves differently.

Everything that happens, to the air and ground, would happen exactly the same if a person was there or not. But it takes a person, or creature, with the ability to convert those movements into sound, that creates sound.

Sound isn't a pysical thing that happens, sound is a result of our ears manipulating those physical changes around us into sound. Therefore, no us and no sound

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In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as a typically audible mechanical wave of pressure and displacement, through a medium such as air or water.

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In physiology and psychology, sound is the reception of such waves and their perception by the brain.[1]

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Vibrations doesn't equal sound

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But what if your NOT right??

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You blushed. So you did hear me, didn't ya?

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Patokl, read it back....

Vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person’s or animal’s ea

That's exactly what I said. the way that sound is defined, here, is that it has to be HEARD. Not 'heard or not', but it has to be heard

Please read back about what I said on radiowaves as a perfect example of what I was discussing