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BlackTalon
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 154
United States

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In rebuttal to the recent attacks on FaceBook BDSM pages and against D/s relationships, I released a post yesterday in an attempt to educate people that women also have the right to choose how they wish to live their lives. In doing so I found support from a small group of alternative lifestyle women's rights supporters. I am trying to help them grow to rival the other groups who believe that women only have the right to choose when it fits into their narrow-minded views. To me this view seems much more oppressive than any D/s relationship. For them to believe that women should only be allowed to choose 'normal' is no choice at all. You may not support D/s relationships, or even understand this lifestyle, but please go show a little support for women to be who they want to be without society looking down on them.

Her Voice

Please go smack their button and show your support. If you'd like you can scroll down that page a little bit and check out my post as well which is shared there. The image I've added is what to look for to find my FB post, so if you'd take a lil time to check that out as well I would greatly appreciate it.



Thank you all, Talon
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If you go to Help > Lush Contacts then you will see a full list of moderators and you can easily check which ones are online.


well, thank you kind sir smile ... I had asked a few people and nobody knew about that
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Quote by c50t
It wasn't actually what was said. In fact, I'm pretty sure it would be spelled, "Yaaaaaaaaeeeeeeiiiiiaaaaaa!"

...a nose that I'm told was approximately three degrees fahrenheit.
Now I'm normally a canine friendly kind of guy, but in this case he was not "man's best friend."


OMG ... I think you win this competition ROFL

after reading that I completely forgot what I was even thinking of replying
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I have a simple request.. the only place I can find out what mods are online is IN a chat room ... possible to add a [mods online] button in with the search tab?
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Cowgirl .. though some may make a joke here n there ...nobody has tried to turn your question into an invalid one.

First I must agree this is not a 'man' thing, and doesn't apply to all of either sexes. It is a 'some people' thing.

I myself think total honesty is a good thing. In your case it seems you shared a fantasy that most guys would love to hear, he may simply feel threatened and think he isn't enough for you, which is just the way he chooses to view it possibly. As a man with a bisexual female partner, I can attest that some men feel threatened by the thought they aren't enough for their woman. I don't feel that way, I understand she has needs I can't meet because I'm not equipped to meet them, but I can however accept her needs and insure they are met in a way safe to our relationship, and without either of us feeling guilty or hurt afterwards. It all comes down to a very deep level of communication in which guidelines are set beforehand that we are both comfortable with.

Fantasies for many people are just that, they choose to never act on them. My questions at this point would lead to more specifics: Did you merely inform him this is a fantasy you have? or.. Did you tell him you'd like to actually experiment with your fantasy either solo or include him in it? If he has a strong morality problem with same sex relationships, did you know about this before he asked? Does he have the double standard of watching girl on girl porn and then turning around and claiming it's morally incorrect?

My best advice at this point would be... If he isn't willing or able to accept you for who you are and what you need from life and relationships, then he wasn't right for you to begin with.
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I agree with nearly all that was said here, but, I need to point out that IMO the time for standing in a corner should be *before* any physical punishment. I feel that the time for thinking about the mistake made is before any actual physical punishment, just as the explanation of why punishment is deserved/needed. Afterwards I generally give my slave a minute or two to gather her composure, then aftercare and reassurance begins. To me, the thought of leaving her standing in the corner (or even alone) after punishment has been administered is bordering on mental cruelty as this is the time when she needs comfort from her Master more than ever.
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Quote by Shylass


Okay. I understand your points, and I thank you for responding.

However, unless I fully understand a thing, I do not feel it is safe to enter into a situation, particularly where I make myself vulnerable to another who has power over me. How, then, if I cannot understand, would I be able to be a sub or Mistress? How would I be able able to submit to rules or take control and lay them if I have no real understanding of what it means or requires?


Think of it like swimming.. when most of us learn to swim, we get a little knowledge of how it works... but there is no way to absolutely know you can swim til you jump in. Yes, do research and learn what you can beforehand, but the only way to know what you're capable of is to get your feet wet.
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Putting it in the wrong hole.


There's a wrong hole??

Bash her head into the headboard
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I must say that women of all ages have special advantages: younger ones are willing to do anything,antwhere,and anytime without alot of coaxing. They are willing to perform in front of a crowd. Older women konw the benefits of showing their knowledge and are willing to take charge. That makes them sexy beyond anything a younger women can do. Give me a older woman hands down.


I guess mine is the exception to your rule.. she possesses all the younger qualities you list, yet has the knowledge and experience to back it up, minus the taking charge... she KNOWS who's in charge. Can honestly say I wouldn't trade her in for 2 younger women. (though I have teased her about that)

Guess that makes my answer pretty clear.
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I've run into very few that didn't like me from the beginning. I don't suck up at all..I say things as I see em. The ones I initially had problems with eventually accepted me partly because: A) I would actually have intelligent conversations with them B) they eventually figured out the more they hated me, the wilder it would make their daughter fight back (which was a bonus in my favor). Quite often I would even point this out to them.

I was the quintessential 'bad boy' growing up yet still found that parents generally found my honest straight-forward approach refreshing somehow. I guess once they came to realize I wasn't intimidated by them (even one cop and a preacher), they would also see that I would stand up for their daughter in the same manner. Of course this only pertained to 'relationships', the ones I just had fun with once or twice and passed along were a different story completely. lol
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I do agree that spitting or the like is often much hotter and more fitting for those spontaneous unbridled encounters.


First I must say that probably 99.7% of my "encounters" fit this category and yes...spitting can enhance the right moments... guess somehow it's the shock factor.

now... I'm a lil shocked that this hasn't come up in this thread yet... I don't often spit on vagina(since everyone else is being clinical) or in her mouth .. but it's GREAT for anal! Maybe it has something to do with the dirtier the act, the more acceptable it becomes. How has the anal aspect been overlooked til now?
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good work... was gonna suggest you try wakin him up with a blo to see if it was a mental thing. Still sounds like there may be many possibilities...stress that he can't get out of his head is usually a boner killer, whether it be from work or performance anxiety. From your solution it seems to be stress of some sort, yet constricted blood flow would be aided by alcohol as well.
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Something about my mother alwasy telling "Older men are just a bunch of perverts" stuck with me. xD



As I fit your demographic (42) I feel compelled to answer. I'm the guy your mom told you about.. not a pervert.. a PROvert. I could honestly say that though it might be flattering, there is no way I would entertain the idea of more than a conversation with anyone under 25. I'm not really into the whole "casual sex" thing anymore; because of my own desires I need someone who completely trusts me and that doesn't happen in a matter of minutes.
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We are beating the 'bushes' to uncover it.. searching every cave to find a morsel of it ..as men we like to take a hands on approach to such matters ...some of us may need to chew it over for a bit, but in the end.. we WILL make sure this quite delicate subject is stimulated and find a way to lick it.
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Not saying it would never happen.. but the mere thought of it takes me to the bathroom scene in 'Me, Myself & Irene' ..though that scene nearly makes me piss myself laughing..I don't think I'd enjoy it. Though.. with an open mind, I must say until I try something I can't knock it.
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we Master's can be a tricky lot! ;)


Oh really? ... don't go giving away our playbook
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Same reply I always give to this question..

Me - as with everyone, this is the only word to fit. We are all too complex for any other single word to describe us.
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First off... yes safeword always online or IRL.

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If the participant's mind is so fragile that some words are going to damage it... Shouldn't they be avoiding the internet and dicking around with professional masters, whatever that is?


If you don't realize how deep the connection between Master/slave goes you may want to know of which you speak. A simple look or touch can send a slave off in a direction they may not have seen coming when they are in "heavy" situations or edge play. That makes the situation very fragile at that point, as the slave is in what is called "sub space" and thoroughly connected to their Master. Anything He may say at that point can have much greater weight to it than at other times.

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So we have all heard of girls that don't like anal sex and won't do it because they had awful experiences with it. Girls that have had this horrible experience with anal tend to avoid it. Why wouldn't they? Obviously, it's not for them and it triggers bad memories.


As someone who has been through this with a few women, it can often come down to trusting the person they are with. If they trust their Master they may be more than willing to try again with someone who they know won't take things too fast and give them an opportunity to have a positive experience to outweigh a previous lovers "bad memories". It can, in fact, lift the slaves connection with their Master by being able to let trust outweigh their past experience and build new memories to replace bad ones. In my case..every time I've run into this situation, not only did they consent to try it again, but also they completely enjoyed the experience and wanted to do it again...and again...and again.
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I personally think you should be able to make such a request. I'm guessing you mean something like one of his shirts of his to wear around the house or something. If you meant for him to send you a collar to wear I personally wouldn't. I've always felt that a collar should be placed by the Master's own hands.

I'm quite sure that most Masters would love such a request as it shows you truly wish to feel closer to him.
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I think it's a little odd that the OP didn't even answer their own question or give some kind of oversight as to their idea of BDSM "styles"

I'm honestly wondering why anyone answered at all LOL... yet I couldn't resist an urge to answer it as broadly as it was asked...

I like My style of BDSM
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I knew what I was gonna see in that video before I clicked on it... la kajira was a dead giveaway of the gorean mindset ...I've mentioned My dislike of their beliefs in another post on here somewhere.

They treat slaves like cattle or prostitutes for all their friends to use, and I will never be able to agree with that type mentality.
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My bed has a strict "no clothing" policy, the only exceptions being: "that time of month" - panties (for her not me :P), and on especially cold nights - socks

Plenty of time for her to wear lingerie between supper and bedtime, and seeing her walking around in it is much more seductive than just lying in bed dressed that way.
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And I might be wrong on this - but I think the blood fetish types don't actually use their teeth to draw?


If there is a fetish you can think of...there are people into it.

I myself like a lil nibble from time to time...chest..shoulder..neck.. not quite hard enough to leave marks but almost.

My slave on the other hand LOVES it hard...want's to be marked frequently and about anywhere. I tend to avoid the neck as I'm not in high school anymore...unless the back of the neck where hair will naturally cover. My absolute favorite place to mark her is the back/top of her shoulder, right where her bra strap will put just enough pressure to constantly remind her of the experience... and yes...quite often blood may be spilled. (special care must be taken to avoid infections which can be much worse than from normal cutting) It brings a whole new meaning to putting My arm around her shoulder in public ;)
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Quote by Budlee
No, or some safe word, means no.


LMAO

Sorry... this brought an image to mind I find funny.

I picture some lawyer or public figure doing a Public Service Announcement with a bound sub in the background. Think we could get Bill Clinton as a spokesman? ...maybe Condoleezza Rice ;) ROFL
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My point is that you are adding things you implied yourself and saying that is what I meant. You obviously haven't grasped yet what I intended and continue harping on something I never said or implied to begin with. ...but ....have fun
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didn't ask you to "buy" anything Dani ....just quit twisting what's said to fit how you chose to understand it
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I still feel this topic is equal to discussing the subtle difference between "My car is yellow." and "I have a yellow car."

One cannot attempt to be safe unless aware that there is risk involved, and takes precautions to reduce said risks.

...as stressed by many others...consent, consent, consent

Choose either principle and implement it into your lifestyle.
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I have avoided this topic for a couple days as it was becoming a battle instead of discussion. I stepped back allowing us all to cool off, reorganized my thoughts and now offer this:

In no way have I suggested that upon meeting someone with this behavior, that someone should step in and force that person to change..yes, at that point, move on if you don't like it.

In a committed relationship however, sometimes things can distract any of us allowing unnatural behavior to appear. It may be a Dom/me with too much on their mind from work, leaving their submissive feeling unwanted/unneeded - simply craving attention of any kind. Could be a submissive with family problems, having trouble trying to deal with things and acting out to get some relief from stress.

If My slave suddenly started drinking to excess, it would be a similar situation. A need to find the root of the problem and try to fix it is only natural. Just because at that point she is drinking that way, doesn't mean it's a constant need or that she even enjoys it, it means she's using it to deal with something else. In such situations it's better to deal with it than kick her to the curb just because of a problem, it would be cold and callous to discard her in her time of need.

Thanks MistressS for seeing my point... and the first 2 suggestions for solving this problem, talking is exactly what I suggested. The 3rd is a way of reinforcing the talk by showing them that in times like that, you aren't willing to give them what they want (physical punishment) as a reward for bad behavior.

Seems too many people pick out 1 word and focus on it...such as "break" .. solving a problem is breaking it. Seldom have I heard "dealing with", "changing", "fixing" or "solving" a bad habit. Being one familiar with breaking horses..I understand the difference. The difference being - I'm not going out searching for a free-willed SAM to drag back to My corral, saddle, whip and ride into submission, effectively breaking their will to be independent. I'm helping to solve a problem presented by the one who has submitted to Me freely and completely, and who trusts that I will step up and take the reigns when problems arise (whether hers or Mine), to not do so would be a break of her trust.

{(edit) For those familiar with breaking horses... my approach there is unconventional..always choosing a gentler more humane method. Seldom using a crop, never using spurs, and always using a hackamore bit over those which can hurt or cause damage.}