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Star Wars And Star Trek Fans; How Do You Feel About J.J. Abrams Directing Both New Movies?
Jj's an okay director if you have a simple plot that needs alot of lens flare.
He's incredibly overrated otherwise.
the only reason his star trek movie worked was because it was an action packed villain episode.
He would never get away with doing a serious anthology episode that really made star trek popular.
Lost sucked, alias sucked, revolution currently sucks but defiance has taken some of the heat off that, fringe was medicore, alcatraz got canceled.
Super8 was terrible and I need not mention mission impossible.
The only good thing he's done is the star trek reboot and person of interest but minus the season finale that was goin downhill too because they keep making it about the other cast members cliched storylines instead of the main story about the machine which is the interest part of the show and ultimately the saving grace that keeps people coming back.
He needs to drop Carter and lionel fuckso, (I mean fusko oops) and bring the show back to Finch and Reese. They're the stars.
If I wanted to watch the cop supporting cast I'd watch law and order or thunder cats.
So I'm apprehensive about his new star trek sequel as it's not getting the hottest reviews and starwars is dead to me anyway after the three flop remakes, but leaks have pointed to it being a seven samurai remake with lightsabers which makes it a joke.
He's incredibly overrated otherwise.
the only reason his star trek movie worked was because it was an action packed villain episode.
He would never get away with doing a serious anthology episode that really made star trek popular.
Lost sucked, alias sucked, revolution currently sucks but defiance has taken some of the heat off that, fringe was medicore, alcatraz got canceled.
Super8 was terrible and I need not mention mission impossible.
The only good thing he's done is the star trek reboot and person of interest but minus the season finale that was goin downhill too because they keep making it about the other cast members cliched storylines instead of the main story about the machine which is the interest part of the show and ultimately the saving grace that keeps people coming back.
He needs to drop Carter and lionel fuckso, (I mean fusko oops) and bring the show back to Finch and Reese. They're the stars.
If I wanted to watch the cop supporting cast I'd watch law and order or thunder cats.
So I'm apprehensive about his new star trek sequel as it's not getting the hottest reviews and starwars is dead to me anyway after the three flop remakes, but leaks have pointed to it being a seven samurai remake with lightsabers which makes it a joke.
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A friend of mine watched all six Star Wars films (in numerical order) with a member of the next generation. The kid asked "what went wrong" when they got to Star Wars as the effects were so poor. He realized that he isn't the target audience - and won't be for the next round of films. I'll take them for what they are.
From what I hear, JJ is actually more of Star Wars fan than a Trekker and, to this fan of the original Trek, it shows. His Treks have been big, cinematic, heavy on the conflict and light on things like exploration and mysterious alien doings to unravel (admittedly, that's been a fault of many of the Trek movies). That doesn't make them bad, but it does make them more Star Wars-y than Star Trek-y. Which means that he may be the perfect guy to take on the Star Wars franchise. That said, I'm even more happy that Lawrence Kasdan (co-writer of The Empire Strikes Back and writer of Return of the Jedi) is back on board the franchise because in the original trilogy and in the Indiana Jones series, he did show a real knack for taking Lucas' big ideas and making them work.
Her Royal Spriteness
*puts on kevlar body suit, stands in middle of room with painted on target and announces* Star Wars is dumb. It's not sexy. Star Trek is sexy. he should sex it up. Benedict Cumberbatch as Darth Crunk! 
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
Her Royal Spriteness
Quote by Magical_felix
The good thing is that george lucas will neither write or direct it.
probably not going to be a popular comment, but seriously, the guy's a hack.
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
Wild at Heart
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probably not going to be a popular comment, but seriously, the guy's a hack.
I wouldn't call him a hack. He did create the universe and I like the movies. He just tried to make the new ones kid friendly with comic relief when the movies would be better treated seriously like how the empire strikes back was. You can't have a character slaughtering kids one moment then throw in R2-D2 being all slap sticky the next and expect it to be good. It's retarded. The romance was so lame too, crow barred in. I like romantic scenes but those seemed like they were written by a 14 year old. He tried to please everyone and he fucked it all up. But still, he did create the whole star wars universe.
I'm going to go do something really un-nerdy now to cleanse myself of this post.
Her Royal Spriteness
Quote by Magical_felix
I wouldn't call him a hack. He did create the universe and I like the movies. He just tried to make the new ones kid friendly with comic relief when the movies would be better treated seriously like how the empire strikes back was. You can't have a character slaughtering kids one moment then throw in R2-D2 being all slap sticky the next and expect it to be good. It's retarded. The romance was so lame too, crow barred in. I like romantic scenes but those seemed like they were written by a 14 year old. He tried to please everyone and he fucked it all up. But still, he did create the whole star wars universe.
I'm going to go do something really un-nerdy now to cleanse myself of this post.
like talking about Spock's bowl cut in Star Trek?
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
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probably not going to be a popular comment, but seriously, the guy's a hack.
Lucas is great at the big picture stuff; world-building, general plot arcs, that sort of thing. He is very weak as a screenwriter and not as good a director as he thinks he is. It even shows in A New Hope and that's my favorite of the movies he's directed. So Lucas as the idea man with a good screenwriter (which it seems they have) and a good director (ditto) may get the series back on track.
Head Nurse
Quote by sprite
*puts on kevlar body suit, stands in middle of room with painted on target and announces* Star Wars is dumb. It's not sexy. Star Trek is sexy. he should sex it up. Benedict Cumberbatch as Darth Crunk!
(Swoons!!)
The Trekkie in me absolutely hates it - it's a vile abomination. . .My smooth, hip alter ego thinks they did a good job with the effects and plot concepts.
When it comes to Star Trek - I listen to the Trekkie. . . and give it 3stars purely because I can't bear to 1 star anything that has the Enterprise and Spock in it.
I've watched every episode of Star Trek - OS and all the spin offs and other such movies - I know what they've done . . . and who they did it to. It does not pass my lemon test.
When it comes to Star Trek - I listen to the Trekkie. . . and give it 3stars purely because I can't bear to 1 star anything that has the Enterprise and Spock in it.
I've watched every episode of Star Trek - OS and all the spin offs and other such movies - I know what they've done . . . and who they did it to. It does not pass my lemon test.
Her Royal Spriteness
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The Trekkie in me absolutely hates it - it's a vile abomination. . .My smooth, hip alter ego thinks they did a good job with the effects and plot concepts.
When it comes to Star Trek - I listen to the Trekkie. . . and give it 3stars purely because I can't bear to 1 star anything that has the Enterprise and Spock in it.
I've watched every episode of Star Trek - OS and all the spin offs and other such movies - I know what they've done . . . and who they did it to. It does not pass my lemon test.
i get this. that said, for those of us who where never really fans until the reboot, its' great - i'd have never been into Star Trek if not for these movies - oh, i watched some of the older movies - a couple of them were good - the one with the whales and the other one with Khan - none of the others were. seen some of the series episodes too, and mostly, those were pretty good (the 60s one, tho, is totally camp - it's fun, but it's not exactly stellar). this is my generations Star Trek. look at is this way - if it wasn't for the reboot, Star Trek would probably not exist except in re-runs.
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
Advanced Wordsmith
Old enough to have watched, and did, first run on tv (in grade school). Loved it. And even though I've always been a SciFi lit fan, I recognized it as poor SF, mostly, but entertaining. Onward to the movies: some were good, a few real good, some not so much. The re-boot now… Really well done. Bravo. Good entertainment. Did get confused with latest, though when they brought in "old Spock" to talk to "young Spock" forgot all about the alternate reality shit which they never explained again.
Advanced Wordsmith
Old enough to have watched, and did, first run on tv (in grade school). Loved it. And even though I've always been a SciFi lit fan, I recognized it as poor SF, mostly, but entertaining. Onward to the movies: some were good, a few real good, some not so much. The re-boot now… Really well done. Bravo. Good entertainment. Did get confused with latest, though when they brought in "old Spock" to talk to "young Spock" forgot all about the alternate reality shit which they never explained again.
Quote by MetildaLOL - they didn't need to revamp the original concept that Roddenberry wrote to get new people into it, honestly. . . they just wanted to - because they're evil and have no heart.
I'll take the Original Series redone in HD over the movies - its as good as porn
I'm serious.
Agreed. One thing seriously lacking in SF media (save, perhaps, books) these days in general is that original Trek concept: "To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilzations; to boldly go where no one has gone before". It's all very inward looking, with social issues, politics and character relationships dominating. To me Trek should be outward-looking. Sure you can have the issues and relationships but explore them in the context of the crew exploring and discovering something new rather than in re-hashing old revenge stories (I haven't seen Into Darkness but am aware it's riffing off the two Khan stories). Perhaps taking on Star Wars will force Abrams to back off from Trek (it's already been suggested he'll produce Trek 3 but not direct) and give someone a chance to do something more in keeping with Trek.
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Agreed. One thing seriously lacking in SF media (save, perhaps, books) these days in general is that original Trek concept: "To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilzations; to boldly go where no one has gone before". It's all very inward looking, with social issues, politics and character relationships dominating. To me Trek should be outward-looking. Sure you can have the issues and relationships but explore them in the context of the crew exploring and discovering something new rather than in re-hashing old revenge stories (I haven't seen Into Darkness but am aware it's riffing off the two Khan stories). Perhaps taking on Star Wars will force Abrams to back off from Trek (it's already been suggested he'll produce Trek 3 but not direct) and give someone a chance to do something more in keeping with Trek.
Absolutely - at least The Wrath of Kahn took place on another world - involving science gone wrong. . . and so forth. Not earth. Earth doesn't need to play a part in any Star Trek movie - that's very Voyage Home.
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I think Star Trek peaked in 1982 with Wrath of Khan. Since then everything else has been a magnitude lower in quality.
For Star Wars, it was 1980's Empire Strikes Back.
To worry at this point in time, after all the blunders set to film that both universes have seen, seems futile.
Anyway, the torch has passed, to a certain degree, and I watch these new releases with my son now. He loved Start Trek: Into Darkness and I expect he'll enjoy the forthcoming Star Wars movies. I take enjoyment from that, even if I don't fully appreciate them.
For Star Wars, it was 1980's Empire Strikes Back.
To worry at this point in time, after all the blunders set to film that both universes have seen, seems futile.
Anyway, the torch has passed, to a certain degree, and I watch these new releases with my son now. He loved Start Trek: Into Darkness and I expect he'll enjoy the forthcoming Star Wars movies. I take enjoyment from that, even if I don't fully appreciate them.
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Quote by paul_moadib
I think Star Trek peaked in 1982 with Wrath of Khan. Since then everything else has been a magnitude lower in quality.
For Star Wars, it was 1980's Empire Strikes Back.
To worry at this point in time, after all the blunders set to film that both universes have seen, seems futile.
Anyway, the torch has passed, to a certain degree, and I watch these new releases with my son now. He loved Start Trek: Into Darkness and I expect he'll enjoy the forthcoming Star Wars movies. I take enjoyment from that, even if I don't fully appreciate them.
Same here - my kids really loved Into Darkness and don't understand my qualms.
So is the woe of growing old - I'll be 90 and still bitching about it. LOL
The Linebacker
This thread has me thinking of DragonCon convention in Atlanta. There are Darthvaders and Stormtroopers all over the city. I rather enjoyed watching a car full of Darthvaders trying to pick up a street hooker last year. I guess she didn't want to do all of them. The Force failed them that day.
