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Here is my point again







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All who never front any attitude, get a little extra edgy, throw a little too much snark, hit a little too hard, or lob one sarcastic post too many please step forward. We've all done it, Trinket, and then when people retaliate we aren't victims because of it. The more it escalates the less anyone is victimized and the more everyone rolls their eyes that "it" is happening again. It's old. Aren't you tired of trying to sort out petty fights and prove that you're right? None of this even matters. Yes, people complain about him. People complain about you, too. People bitch and moan about all kinds of people. We let both slide because usually- such as this occasion- it's really not worth anyone's time to get in the middle of a "he hurt my feelings/he did it first" forum scrum. In fact, I've spent too much time already by addressing it.

Everybody chill.



And you're addressing this post only to me because? Am i the only person posting on this thread? no. Have other people complained about the same person on this thread? yes. Why am I the only one being quoted?

If people have complained about me nobody has brought it to my attention, if they had I would have apologised to the person who thought I had done them a wrong in fact I have done so in threads from time to time. I'm not so arrogant to believe or tell people I'm right all the time or perfect, none of us are. Some people on lush are treated differently to others and this thread is a perfect example of it.

I'm not trying to win anything, there is nothing to win. I'm only speaking for myself when I say I'm sick and tired of being harassed on the forums. But I know I'm not the only one.
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And you're addressing this post only to me because?


Because you suck.

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Have other people complained about the same person on this thread? yes.


How would you know people complained unless you put them up to it? All this screaming about half of lush this and half of lush that just comes from you.
Interesting that Trinket was singled out and attacked on a personal level and yet she's being quoted and told to let it go while the person who insulted her is being allowed to continue casting rude things at her.
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And you're addressing this post only to me because? Am i the only person posting on this thread? no. Have other people complained about the same person on this thread? yes. Why am I the only one being quoted?

If people have complained about me nobody has brought it to my attention, if they had I would have apologised to the person who thought I had done them a wrong in fact I have done so in threads from time to time. I'm not so arrogant to believe or tell people I'm right all the time or perfect, none of us are. Some people on lush are treated differently to others and this thread is a perfect example of it.

I'm not trying to win anything, there is nothing to win. I'm only speaking for myself when I say I'm sick and tired of being harassed on the forums and I'm not the only one.


I'm addressing this to you because you addressed me. We're conversing. smile

Nobody brings it to your attention because usually the complaints aren't worth addressing. We're grown-ups here. If a member feels compelled to contact website authorities to complain about another member, chances are they're just choosing not to step away from the computer. "Somebody on the internet is wrong." You feel that nobody ever takes your side because usually, you're the only one to plea for it, and just like the member complaints, requests to referee a forum thread is usually going to go unaddressed, too. Why? Because it's not worth anyone's time in most cases. If it pisses you off, walk away. Those retaliations, just like in this thread, will cease to happen as soon as you stop coming back for more.

My advice, and believe it or not it does come from the wisdom of experience, is that the less aggrieved and antagonistic your posts are, the less you'll find yourself under some sort of siege from other members. You'll largely get what you give. And unlike my joke about the group hugs, that's a sincere sentiment that I'm offering. And if being edgy, speaking your mind, being a smartass, 'not taking any shit', or any other way of going about your business here is part and parcel of who you are and you're not going to part with it, that's perfectly fine. Just understand that our attitudes either attract or insulate us from conflict.
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Interesting that Trinket was singled out and attacked on a personal level and yet she's being quoted and told to let it go while the person who insulted her is being allowed to continue casting rude things at her.


I defended her when another member was insinuating that she's a bully. And then she called me an utter fucking asshole. She picks on me and then when I defend myself she gets all fired up. That is why.
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Here is my point again, With all due respect LadyX, I have never seen a mod or anyone intervene when it was the other way around, but as soon as someone jacks up about how rude he is, oh lets all have some compassion, lets sing kumbaya. NOBODY did that for me and there were plenty of times i asked a mod for help during the middle of a tirade from Felix and was given none, even though i was being called filthy names.

What ever happened to respect? What ever happened to having some manners and letting people post without being harassed by someone who gets away with it time after time after time.

I'm done, I can't say anymore on the subject. i've had it, and so have a lot of other people. they keep telling you but nobody does anything.




I'm going to chime in here because you are way off base. Why would YOU have knowledge of anyone intervening when it comes to another member. You should take your own inventory.
Do you remember the thread where you included me in some accusations a while back? I pm'd you and confronted you.
I have never gone running to a "Mod" or Nic about anyone. I handle things myself because I know I have the power to do so. Why give someone else the power when it's all in how you react?

Magical_Felix and I both have been victim to bullshit complaints. Suspended and other things that were later proven to be unjustified. No apologies, nothing. I was suspended once without a warning. Did I complain or go whining? No, I didn't. It didn't phase me.

So, stop saying or implying things you are clueless about.
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I defended her when another member was insinuating that she's a bully. And then she called me an utter fucking asshole. She picks on me and then when I defend myself she gets all fired up. That is why.


Twist the situation much? You were the one who singled her out, nobody named any names until you jumped in and called her a battle axe and a bully. If anyone is picking on anybody it's you.
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Interesting that Trinket was singled out and attacked on a personal level and yet she's being quoted and told to let it go while the person who insulted her is being allowed to continue casting rude things at her.


A river of bad blood flows through these here parts. We're not a daycare, and neither of these two are fully in the right or wrong. Refereeing cheap shots is not our business. If it goes too far it gets dealt with, and it's usually well out of sight, as it should be.

Trinket asked for my feedback and she's getting it. If people are looking for some sort of public flogging for accused bullying, they're on the wrong website.
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Twist the situation much? You were the one who singled her out, nobody named any names until you jumped in and called her a battle axe and a bully. If anyone is picking on anybody it's you.


Ugh, can't you even read? That other person was saying she was. I was saying she is spirited in her opinions not a bully. When she attacks me, I turn the other cheek.
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Ugh, can't you even read? That other person was saying she was. I was saying she is spirited in her opinions not a bully. When she attacks me, I turn the other cheek.


I can read, but it's a shame that you can't because the other person never mentioned her. Funny because you singled her out first, also, telling someone they suck is not turning the other cheek.
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I'm going to chime in here because you are way off base. Why would YOU have knowledge of anyone intervening when it comes to another member. You should take your own inventory.
Do you remember the thread where you included me in some accusations a while back? I pm'd you and confronted you.
I have never gone running to a "Mod" or Nic about anyone. I handle things myself because I know I have the power to do so. Why give someone else the power when it's all in how you react?

Magical_Felix and I both have been victim to bullshit complaints. Suspended and other things that were later proven to be unjustified. No apologies, nothing. I was suspended once without a warning. Did I complain or go whining? No, I didn't. It didn't phase me.

So, stop saying or implying things you are clueless about.


let's see... what? why would I have knowledge of anyone intervening with what?

Nope I don't recall where I included you in some accusations, if you would like to refresh my memory, i'm happy to apologise if i did or said something wrong, seriously.

What has it got to do with me if you were suspended without warning once? I had no hand in it so why even bring it up, what's your point? I haven't ever made a complaint about you so what is your point here?

you might not have run to a mod before because little felix didn't call you a slut on a forum did he? Would you have sat back and said nothing if it had happened to you?

i'm comfortable with the fact that I'm not clueless about any of it really. Ok, so now, I'm going to be told that i'm a smartarse, and it's 'all in how you react to certain things' etc etc etc.....

There was absolutely nothing in your post that had anything to do with ME. or did I miss something?

This whole thing has become a farce
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I can read, but it's a shame that you can't because the other person never mentioned her. Funny because you singled her out first, also, telling someone they suck is not turning the other cheek.



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This whole thing has become a farce



Truer words will not be spoken!
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you might not have run to a mod before because little felix didn't call you a slut on a forum did he?


Actually, I have.
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Twist the situation much? You were the one who singled her out, nobody named any names until you jumped in and called her a battle axe and a bully. If anyone is picking on anybody it's you.



You know, thanks, but you really shouldn't stick up for me, you'll just get brow beaten until you give up. Nobody gives a fig that i didn't even start this, but it's me who is gonna get fried for it, all the while little Felix continues to post his disrespectful and rude posts one after the other and not one post has criticised him for it.

Don't you see, it's ALL my fault. Best you give it up now but like I said, thanks i really appreciate it.
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You know, thanks, but you really shouldn't stick up for me, you'll just get brow beaten until you give up. Nobody gives a fig that i didn't even start this, but it's me who is gonna get fried for it, all the while little Felix continues to post his disrespectful and rude posts one after the other and not one post has criticised him for it.

Don't you see, it's ALL my fault. Best you give it up now but like I said, thanks i really appreciate it.


DPW, curious3040, summerkisses and magma boils did.
Okay, gang. Let's take this fun party elsewhere and return the thread to it's original subject please. If anyone needs to discuss forum conflicts further, please do so by sending me a PM. I'll respond promptly. Otherwise, the show is over. Anything further off topic will be deleted.
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let's see... what? why would I have knowledge of anyone intervening with what?

Nope I don't recall where I included you in some accusations, if you would like to refresh my memory, i'm happy to apologise if i did or said something wrong, seriously.

What has it got to do with me if you were suspended without warning once? I had no hand in it so why even bring it up, what's your point? I haven't ever made a complaint about you so what is your point here?

you might not have run to a mod before because little felix didn't call you a slut on a forum did he? Would you have sat back and said nothing if it had happened to you?

i'm comfortable with the fact that I'm not clueless about any of it really. Ok, so now, I'm going to be told that i'm a smartarse, and it's 'all in how you react to certain things' etc etc etc.....

There was absolutely nothing in your post that had anything to do with ME. or did I miss something?

This whole thing has become a farce



You are assuming no one confronts Magical_Felix. That your complaints are ignored.

The accusations you included me in ..... You did apologize, after I confronted you. I also accepted your apology.

The point I'm making about the suspensions, is that there is no favoritism. In fact, sometimes it seems to be bogus just to stop some people from whining. You act as if your complaints are in vain.

Do you see what you did there? "Little" Felix (by the way, he isn't little). Again, stop assuming or accusing .... I'm fair game!!! Felix has called me plenty ... Much more creative adjectives than slut. No, I didn't go complain. If I got something to say, I say it to the source. I usually have plenty to say too. Again, no matter what is said I don't complain.

Obviously you have missed a lot.
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You know, thanks, but you really shouldn't stick up for me, you'll just get brow beaten until you give up. Nobody gives a fig that i didn't even start this, but it's me who is gonna get fried for it, all the while little Felix continues to post his disrespectful and rude posts one after the other and not one post has criticised him for it.

Don't you see, it's ALL my fault. Best you give it up now but like I said, thanks i really appreciate it.


What's life without a senseless brow beating every once in a while for pointing out something that seems unfair
Ok, this has gone on far too long IMO. For this many moderators to be actively involved in this complete train-wreck, and for it to be allowed to continue, is beyond belief. I request that this thread be CLOSED, and everyone get on with their lives. The original topic has been so far removed now that the thread serves no valid purpose and has become little more than a pile of steaming crap. Sorry NickiC, you didn't ask for this. But it happens over and over again. Enough please.
I support LadyX I had not to come out cz I am just straight, but I would accept it if my daughters would be lesbian or bi.
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A river of bad blood flows through these here parts. We're not a daycare, and neither of these two are fully in the right or wrong. Refereeing cheap shots is not our business. If it goes too far it gets dealt with, and it's usually well out of sight, as it should be.



Then you decide to close a thread if it deviates, yet many other threads go way further and yet still remain. Is it because of the room it's in? Nobody will care? Well I do!
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DPW, curious3040, summerkisses and magma boils did.

Please remind me, I thought I'd kept my powder dry.
You can pm me if the thread closes.
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I support LadyX I had not to come out cz I am just straight, but I would accept it if my daughters would be lesbian or bi.

Couldn't I persuade you to just try, you know just so you're sure before the wedding. Maybe skinny dip or slip into bed naked.
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DPW, curious3040, summerkisses and magma boils did.

You mention me, when? Pm me.
Don't delete this one, it's not 1984 thought police!
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You mention me, when? Pm me.
Don't delete this one, it's not 1984 thought police!


She mentioned that no one was saying anything to me in this thread and I said that people were so she doesn't feel singled out. Are you really that dense?


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Oh and to stay on topic...Sometimes humor is good when dealing with heavy issues. If my kid did this I would probably laugh.

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Couldn't I persuade you to just try, you know just so you're sure before the wedding. Maybe skinny dip or slip into bed naked.


Oh no you don't. Keep your paws off my sexy. Snarl.

Well back on subject. I think there are more factors involved and everyone's situation is unique depending on the type of family, where you live, age, personal need and personality.
Thank you for sharing your stories.
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I support LadyX I had not to come out cz I am just straight, but I would accept it if my daughters would be lesbian or bi.



Really? What if you had a son?
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Couldn't I persuade you to just try, you know just so you're sure before the wedding. Maybe skinny dip or slip into bed naked.


Oh no you don't. Keep your paws off my sexy.

Thanks for sharing your stories and opinions. I did learn from them.