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Option to turn off Voting on your stories?

Some people have asked me if they can turn off voting entirely for their stories, for a variety of valid reasons. At the moment it isn't possible.

However, I have checked with our code monkey, and it should be fairly easy to add to the site. You would be able to turn off voting on your stories, the same as you can already turn off comments and embellishments.

There are a few knockon effects, it would mean the stories would not be included in any of the site's ranking features - "Most Popular", "Top Author for the month" etc.

Would you like to have the option? If there are enough people wanting it, I'll ask Gav to allocate time to it.

Poll attached.

Choice is good.

Ask Gav what he'd charge per hour, I might pay him myself.
The same GQP demanding we move on from January 6th, 2021 is still doing audits of the November 3rd, 2020 election.
Quote by nicola
There are a few knockon effects, it would mean the stories would not be included in any of the site's ranking features - "Most Popular", "Top Author for the month" etc.


The main complaint I have come across in the forums is, as you said, is people not wanting votes on their stories. I, myself, mentioned it in a post regarding my competition story. I was for no votes but now see it as a necessity. As for turning it off, my question is now, would these same people who don't want voting on their stories, then complain when they are not getting the views?

Most popular etc = more views.

I voted no. Might be confusing to newbies and guest seeing a story with no score.
Feedback is a critical component of learning. The voting and comment system are the only feedback processes that Lush has in place. It is the price of admission. What's more, knowing that your piece is being voted on forces the author to look at their work critically, and make sure it is the very best it can be before submitting. Having the option to remove this minimal bar seems an open invitation to submit nasty writing. (Mine included, BTW)

I expect a broad spectrum of writing levels and skills on this site. It is tempting for me to just stick to the highest-rated stories, but I like the rough gems that exist in the system as it is, despite some of the wading that needs to be done to get to them.

Just my opinion of course. I am still new, so what do I know ... ;-)
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Having the option to remove this minimal bar seems an open invitation to submit nasty writing. (Mine included, BTW)


It might be an invitation, but don't forget every story that is submitted, gets a moderator / editor's review prior to being published on site. Sloppy writing will simply not get through. In fact there are rarely any 1's at all given by surfers these days, our due dilligence has improved in leaps and bounds these last 6 months.

Some interesting points I hadn't even considered being raised here.
I think having the option either way is a good idea me I like having the option to have people vote on my sotires but here is another idea how about rather than having the option but towards all of your submissions making it when you upload a story to Lush having the option there of whether or not you want to have people leave a comment or voting basically and on/off tab for the box that you can check at time of entry to the site. What do you think?
I have been fortunate in that most of the votes that I've gotten have been very good, but even my best works have been hit with a seemingly randome 2 or 3. Why these votes are cast is a mystery to me because they are never accompanied with an explanation from those who cast it. I have just had to accept that there some people who don't like my writing. Even so, I wouldn't turn off votes any more than I would turn off comments. If I did, how would I know if people enjoyed my work. Heck, as the viewed number just represents hits, I could never even be certain if anyone ever finished one. Under those contitions, I'd probably quit writing altogether. As there is no pay for an amateur like myself, the few votes and comments I recieve are the only return I get for my time.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

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Quote by NobeUddy
Having the option to remove this minimal bar seems an open invitation to submit nasty writing. (Mine included, BTW)


It might be an invitation, but don't forget every story that is submitted, gets a moderator / editor's review prior to being published on site. Sloppy writing will simply not get through. In fact there are rarely any 1's at all given by surfers these days, our due dilligence has improved in leaps and bounds these last 6 months.

Some interesting points I hadn't even considered being raised here.


I had forgotten about that . Yours is a thankless job. Thank you (and all those that may help.)
The votes, along with comments are needed to further the "education" of the author, their learning curve at writing. Keep the voting turned on.

I have had a problem of reading a story and the scoring system not working. Any story I vote on, I also comment on. If there is not comment, for some reason I didn't vote (maybe it wasn't working?)

I have made complaints about it before.
I think having the option is always a good thing...but the default should always be "voting on"...
We don't want newbies coming here posting their first story and wondering why it got no votes after a month...I recall that happening to another author who came here and was wondering why he didn't get any comments...it was only after I tried to leave a comment on his story that I realised what he did...somehow he turned off the comment feature...
I would almost suggest that it prompts you with one of those "Are you sure?" messages...but, that is probably not really necessary...
Later,
Alan.

You know you want it, you know you need it bad...get it now on Amazon.com...
Lush Erotica, an Anthology of Award Winning Sex Stories
I have seen enough people and even moderators say that they dont give votes below 4 or 5. Well if that's the case then whats the point anyway if basically the only votes people get are pats on the back?

On the other hand I think its good to be able to measure our writing against others, and thats one thing I noticed about the site right off was that the voting was easy to understand. The only problem is that you must really have to suck to score below a 4 average, lol. That means only the worst writers are below a B average? That's messed up but I guess theres not much that can be done about that, really.

So if the votes get turned off it loses something and now its just a bunch of sex stories dumped on a site. There has to be some way to score them or grade them I think but that's just my opinion.
I don't see why anyone would want votes turned off. Everybody on this site votes quite high anyways. I don't think I've ever seen a story at less than 4. I think maybe making the voting out of 10 might add a bit more variety and differentiate between really good and average stories.
I would love that feature if it can be selective per individual story not for all of your stories. I've got some hack that votes all my stuff with 3's as soon as they post and I would turn the voting off on my stuff that's very personal written about special people.
Bunny12


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I don't see why anyone would want votes turned off. Everybody on this site votes quite high anyways. I don't think I've ever seen a story at less than 4. I think maybe making the voting out of 10 might add a bit more variety and differentiate between really good and average stories.



I totally agree with this... I would love to have more range available for voting.
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I don't see why anyone would want votes turned off. Everybody on this site votes quite high anyways. I don't think I've ever seen a story at less than 4. I think maybe making the voting out of 10 might add a bit more variety and differentiate between really good and average stories.


That is not always true. There are those that delibratly vote down stories with very low votes. I myself suffered 3 such attacks last night and two of those stories had won editors picks. Still, I'll always allow voting from the members.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

From what I hear there are only 2 kinds of votes.

4 and 5 for your friends or just to be nice.
1 2 or 3 if you hate the author.

What a f'd up deal
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Quote by DamonX
I don't see why anyone would want votes turned off. Everybody on this site votes quite high anyways. I don't think I've ever seen a story at less than 4. I think maybe making the voting out of 10 might add a bit more variety and differentiate between really good and average stories.


That is not always true. There are those that delibratly vote down stories with very low votes. I myself suffered 3 such attacks last night and two of those stories had won editors picks. Still, I'll always allow voting from the members.


One of the questionable issues about the ability to "turn off" voting arises from this...I have the same problem a lot of authors have in that once a story hits the top spot on the charts, so to speak, someone will come along and "Knock it off" with a low vote...
I'm just holding my breath right now with whatever poem I got on the top of the Feb list...I feel that if a story/poem gets 14 five votes and then one "two" it is almost always a malicious act...
If I could, I would turn off the voting on that poem right now...to "lock it in" to first place...
This is questionable ethically...one can always argue that there is somebody who is going to read it and sincerely feels it rates a "two" even if 500 others have read it and nobody thinks it rates below a "five"...
So, to satisfy the naysayers...I think that's the word...the option to turn off votes would have to be at the time the story is posted...
I would also love to turn off voting on my contest story right now...I have a strong suspicion Milik would agree with having that option...
But...is that fair???
These are the issues that arise with voting options...
Later,
Alan.

You know you want it, you know you need it bad...get it now on Amazon.com...
Lush Erotica, an Anthology of Award Winning Sex Stories
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If I could, I would turn off the voting on that poem right now...to "lock it in" to first place...


Could this happen if the option was allowed? This could lead to a lot of problems if that was the case. We would then have the same authors listed in the top author list for the entire month. Then that will lead to the next poll .... Should we keep / not keep the top author list.
I think any rational person must, at least to some extent, grade
on a curve. As Alan just said, if a story has a dozen or more straight 5 votes, the voter must know how destructive a single two can be to the overall score. Is it really important enough to the voter to do that to the author? Is the opinion based on a rational thought? As I have never seen such a vote backed by a comment from someone with the balls to put his name on it, I'd say no it's not so important that the voter felt they just had to speak out.
No, like it or not the fact is that there are members who go out of their way to be destructive. At least movie and book critics don't hide in the darkness, unlike some members here.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

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If I could, I would turn off the voting on that poem right now...to "lock it in" to first place...


Could this happen if the option was allowed? This could lead to a lot of problems if that was the case.


My guess is that if one did, all votes would be erased and the story would be pulled from the compatition.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

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Quote by Exakta66
If I could, I would turn off the voting on that poem right now...to "lock it in" to first place...


Could this happen if the option was allowed? This could lead to a lot of problems if that was the case. We would then have the same authors listed in the top author list for the entire month. Then that will lead to the next poll .... Should we keep / not keep the top author list.


I don't think they'd set it up like that SB. They would probably do it with the new ones being submitted.
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Quote by SweetBitch
Quote by Exakta66
If I could, I would turn off the voting on that poem right now...to "lock it in" to first place...


Could this happen if the option was allowed? This could lead to a lot of problems if that was the case.


My guess is that if one did, all votes would be erased and the story would be pulled from the compatition.


There would have to be definite restrictions on turning off votes in competitions to "lock in" scores...
I know the subject of voting has been beat to death in the forums before and nobody is ever completely satisfied...I'm sure Nicola would tell you that if she had a dollar for every time someone mentioned voting to her she'd be sailing on her yacht right now...
There are some people who I have heard argue that a top story being knocked off the top with a "two" vote is sort of a natural way to make room for newer stories...not sure if I completely buy that one, but after doing this for almost a year, I've come to accept it...
Cheers,
Alan.

You know you want it, you know you need it bad...get it now on Amazon.com...
Lush Erotica, an Anthology of Award Winning Sex Stories
Quote by LadyX
From what I hear there are only 2 kinds of votes.

4 and 5 for your friends or just to be nice.
1 2 or 3 if you hate the author.

What a f'd up deal



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Bunny12


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I would love that feature if it can be selective per individual story not for all of your stories. I've got some hack that votes all my stuff with 3's as soon as they post and I would turn the voting off on my stuff that's very personal written about special people.


That is an excellent point Bunny. There are always some pieces that mean more than others and some that you just know are good even as you write them. That is something to think about.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

That's a good point about the strategy of turning the votes off at an opportune time. I'd say, if you turn it off, it wipes out all your votes. You didn't want voting anyway.
You wouldn't be able to lock a story after so many votes, the votes would be wiped and unrecoverable.

Having it on a story to story basis instead of for all your stories might be an idea, I don't know how difficult this is going to be for Gav. I don't know why someone would want it on an individual basis though, unless they knew their story was weak compared to others they've submitted?

I can see something happening though - say a story had quite a few bad scores, an author might decide to turn off voting, scores get wiped, then they turn voting back on again, knowing those low voters are highly unlikely to revisit the same story again. I think something would have to be built in to disallow the option once the initial choice has been made.
I'd have to agree Nicola. My feeling is that, once the votes are wiped, the option would be disabled and voting would be permanently off. That would also disallow being on toplists etc. Mmm, for me it's not worth it.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

Maybe to turn the voting on and off for individual stories is should be an option in the submit a story screen and you only get to choose once once it's set and submitted done deal. Like when you check the contest entry box to enter a story in a contest. Does that make sense? I would turn the voting off on some of my true poems that are very personal.
Bunny12


Bunny Rabbits cute and fuzzy they want to love you but they have razor sharp teeth - don't piss them off!