Love Football/soccer and the fact that chelsea won on saturday!!!
but I have to say I'm really interested on who is actually going to make it into the GB team for the Olympics at the moment
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I tried to play soccer once but I couldn't think without a helmet on and kept tackling everyone.
Actually the soccer team at my high school was pretty good and we'd always have a good crowd of football/baseball types like myself there to cheer our soccer friends on. They especially liked us cheering them on because we were so loud, rowdy and heckled the opponents.
Actually the soccer team at my high school was pretty good and we'd always have a good crowd of football/baseball types like myself there to cheer our soccer friends on. They especially liked us cheering them on because we were so loud, rowdy and heckled the opponents.
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I tried to play soccer once but I couldn't think without a helmet on and kept tackling everyone.
Actually the soccer team at my high school was pretty good and we'd always have a good crowd of football/baseball types like myself there to cheer our soccer friends on. They especially liked us cheering them on because we were so loud, rowdy and heckled the opponents.
I think part of the fun of soccer is the passion of the crowd at live games. Like the international games. It really needs to be experienced at least once by everyone. It's probably the most dramatic sport there is, with each goal being so devastating. With such an open free running sport that never stops for more than a few seconds you can literally see momentum swings coming just from the player's body language. The openness and free flowing nature of the game creates for lots of tension with highly contrasting styles of play. One team can attack and attack and look the better team the whole game and give up a goal from a team that has been waiting to counter strike right when the opportunity arises. ALmost like a fighter that has been loosing a fight the whole way and suddenly puts a submission on his opponent. When that happens the collected gasp of 70'000 people is fucking crazy!
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Mexico vs Bosnia-Herzegovina Starting right now right now. For all you Bosnia-Herzegovinains out in Lush Land.
Next sunday at 3 pm eastern time, there will be BRASIL vs MEXICO.
Biggest test of year for the Brasilian national team.
The game will be in Dallas. Will be a great match!
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Next sunday at 3 pm eastern time, there will be BRASIL vs MEXICO.
Biggest test of year for the Brasilian national team.
The game will be in Dallas. Will be a great match!
Brasil vs Mexico in Dallas? It sounds like a great match. But Dallas? They should come to Atlanta, then I could go.
Of course you know I'd get frustrated and yell, "knock his head off!"
A long time ago Atlanta had a soccer team called the Atlanta Chiefs that was the North American Champions. Actually before my time, I just remember reading about them.
They've tried to get a pro team going again without much success. In fact every time we get a hockey team, the Canadians steal them. It's probably a plot that Dudealicious is behind! That Canadian!
BRASIL vs MEXICO? hmmm I better be neutral because I have too many friends that might get mad at me for picking a side in that one.
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Brazil is a way better team, right?
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Brazil is a way better team, right?
I am certainly not an expert on soccer but I believe that Brazil is almost always one of the best teams in the world. I believe they have won multiple World Cups.
Mexico is probably pretty good but I know that Mexico and the USA are usually a pretty even match. I doubt the USA is any kind of serious threat to win the World Cup in men's soccer, though they may be decent. It is not all the primary sport here. It is an awesome sport though.
Along with soccer I'd love to see lacrosse grow in popularity. I always wanted to play lacrosse but it was held at the same time as baseball and I could not do both.
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I am certainly not an expert on soccer but I believe that Brazil is almost always one of the best teams in the world. I believe they have won multiple World Cups.
Mexico is probably pretty good but I know that Mexico and the USA are usually a pretty even match. I doubt the USA is any kind of serious threat to win the World Cup in men's soccer, though they may be decent. It is not all the primary sport here. It is an awesome sport though.
Along with soccer I'd love to see lacrosse grow in popularity. I always wanted to play lacrosse but it was held at the same time as baseball and I could not do both.
Brazil and Argentina are the best right now. It's a coin flip really for me if I were to gamble on a match between the two. They can both play as a team and as individuals which makes them incredibly lethal. They also start kicking the ball around at age like, 5 months old. Dudes are good.
As for Mexico and the USA being an even match... I would bet 1000 on mexico straight up on that every time they play. All the history and the recent history can tell you that its not an even match. I think the last game was like 5-0 or something... It was a final I think. Mexico has actually placed second in the Copa America. Arguably the second biggest tournament behind the World Cup... The USA regularly declines the invitation to the tournament. Pussies.
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Brazil and Argentina are the best right now. It's a coin flip really for me if I were to gamble on a match between the two. They can both play as a team and as individuals which makes them incredibly lethal. They also start kicking the ball around at age like, 5 months old. Dudes are good.
As for Mexico and the USA being an even match... I would bet 1000 on mexico straight up on that every time they play. All the history and the recent history can tell you that its not an even match. I think the last game was like 5-0 or something... It was a final I think. Mexico has actually placed second in the Copa America. Arguably the second biggest tournament behind the World Cup... The USA regularly declines the invitation to the tournament. Pussies.
You are correct if you are talking about the "weight" of the jersey. What I mean is, they are def. the most feared national teams. However it has been a while since the two have accomplished anything really meaningfull in the international field. Apart from winning the Copa America, which for each is considered an obligation, Brazil hasnt won the WC since 2002 (Tokyo) and Argentina hasn´t won one sine 1986 (in mexico city). They are both in a rebuilding process... I do agree that if things continue to evolve they will be major favorites in the next WC in Brazil 2014.
Today the best country in the world has to be Spain, hands down! The starting 11 is made of 8 Barcelona players and Barcelona is oundoubtly the best club in the world. Here, click on this ---> Official FIFA Rankings
As for Mexico vs USA - I´m totally with you when the game is hosted in Mexico City. USA has no chance in the cauldron that is Estadio Azteca nicknamed - "El Coloso de Santa Ursula" or "the hornet´s nest".
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However, when the usa plays at home, the story is been a little diferent. American fans have learned how to cheer the team on, and the players have learned how to handle big games. Its a much more even debate now.
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You are correct if you are talking about the "weight" of the jersey. What I mean is, they are def. the most feared national teams. However it has been a while since the two have accomplished anything really meaningfull in the international field. Apart from winning the Copa America, which for each is considered an obligation, Brazil hasnt won the WC since 2002 (Tokyo) and Argentina hasn´t won one sine 1986 (in mexico city). They are both in a rebuilding process... I do agree that if things continue to evolve they will be major favorites in the next WC in Brazil 2014.
Today the best country in the world has to be Spain, hands down! The starting 11 is made of 8 Barcelona players and Barcelona is oundoubtly the best club in the world. Here, click on this ---> Official FIFA Rankings
I agree with this completely! i think because of their history, Brasil and Argentina are more feared than what they should right now. Yes Argentina has Messi and he is simply a God when it comes to football, but even him in this past Copa America said that Argentinians were expecting for him to do the whole game and you need a team for that not just good players and if we talk about Brasil it has been along time since they have seen another Ronaldo.
In this past Copa America neither of them did a decent job, come on even Venezuela played better and got a higher rank and that says a lot of how mediocre their teams are right now.
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I agree with this completely! i think because of their history, Brasil and Argentina are more feared than what they should right now. Yes Argentina has Messi and he is simply a God when it comes to football, but even him in this past Copa America said that Argentinians were expecting for him to do the whole game and you need a team for that not just good players and if we talk about Brasil it has been along time since they have seen another Ronaldo.
In this past Copa America neither of them did a decent job, come on even Venezuela played better and got a higher rank and that says a lot of how mediocre their teams are right now.
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Latinfoxy: Yeah, Venezuela played well last Copa. Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Every team is better at home. EVERY single team.. True, Mexico is invincible in Mexico city (only one loss I think ever) but when's the last time the USA agreed to play there? They are like children who only want to play on their terms or else they take their toys and go home. Like how the turn down Copa America invites.
33-15-12 (Mexico) is the record. I'd be up 18,000.
True. The USA not so recently though in games that don't mean anything where Mexico sends a B squad to play against the USA's A squad at home while the USA fouls and time wastes and plays defensive football likes its a world cup they have been more even.. Even makes things a coin flip IF it isn't Mexico's real team. Like the last north American cup.. Hosted by the USA recently, always home court advantage for the USA in this tournament.. They lost 5-0... The current Mexico full strength team can beat most teams in the world every time. And will beat the best teams if the best teams don't try their hardest. The USA? Come on... You'd be happy if brazil drew the USA in their world cup group. Every country in the world is.
Re Spain: I forgot about those flashy little lispy dudes. It won't last long... Never has a European country dominated the number one spot for an extended period like Brazil. I was incorrect in my wording saying right now Brazil and Argentina are best but I would take either of those teams if I were to bet on the next 100 games they play with Spain.
As for Mexico vs USA - I´m totally with you when the game is hosted in Mexico City. USA has no chance in the cauldron that is Estadio Azteca nicknamed - "El Coloso de Santa Ursula" or "the hornet´s nest".
Every team is better at home. EVERY single team.. True, Mexico is invincible in Mexico city (only one loss I think ever) but when's the last time the USA agreed to play there? They are like children who only want to play on their terms or else they take their toys and go home. Like how the turn down Copa America invites.
However, when the usa plays at home, the story is been a little diferent. American fans have learned how to cheer the team on, and the players have learned how to handle big games. Its a much more even debate now.
33-15-12 (Mexico) is the record. I'd be up 18,000.
True. The USA not so recently though in games that don't mean anything where Mexico sends a B squad to play against the USA's A squad at home while the USA fouls and time wastes and plays defensive football likes its a world cup they have been more even.. Even makes things a coin flip IF it isn't Mexico's real team. Like the last north American cup.. Hosted by the USA recently, always home court advantage for the USA in this tournament.. They lost 5-0... The current Mexico full strength team can beat most teams in the world every time. And will beat the best teams if the best teams don't try their hardest. The USA? Come on... You'd be happy if brazil drew the USA in their world cup group. Every country in the world is.
Re Spain: I forgot about those flashy little lispy dudes. It won't last long... Never has a European country dominated the number one spot for an extended period like Brazil. I was incorrect in my wording saying right now Brazil and Argentina are best but I would take either of those teams if I were to bet on the next 100 games they play with Spain.
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Every team is better at home. EVERY single team.. True, Mexico is invincible in Mexico city (only one loss I think ever) but when's the last time the USA agreed to play there? They are like children who only want to play on their terms or else they take their toys and go home. Like how the turn down Copa America invites.
Last time they played it was in 2009 for a WC qualifying game. Unless its a friendly, the USA can´t choose not to play in Mexico.
The USA did not turn down the last invite. They actualy accepted to go, but due to the Gold Cup tournament and the subsequent matches against Mexico, decided to send their B-squad. The COMEBOL (governing body of south american soccer) declined to accept their B team.
I´m not bashing the Mexican squad, like I said, it will be a tough test for Brasil. If Brasil looses by more then 1 goal there is a good chance the coach will be fired.
However, I think you are forgetting that The USA team finished in the top 8 in the last WC. Including disqualifying Mexico in the final 16.
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I would never get my drawers in a wad if the USA wins or loses in soccer. If they win fine. It really isn't our sport and our best athletes do not play it.
Sometimes I do enjoy watching the elite soccer teams in the world play on TV, though I am usually quite confused about the rules. I understand enough to enjoy the game.
I enjoy the crowds very much. They remind me of college football fans in the USA which are our most rabid fans of any sport.
I love how huge sports are in human culture. I would love to attend the Olympics in London this summer and I might have a shot at doing that.
Sometimes I do enjoy watching the elite soccer teams in the world play on TV, though I am usually quite confused about the rules. I understand enough to enjoy the game.
I enjoy the crowds very much. They remind me of college football fans in the USA which are our most rabid fans of any sport.
I love how huge sports are in human culture. I would love to attend the Olympics in London this summer and I might have a shot at doing that.
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Latinfoxy: Yeah, Venezuela played well last Copa. Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
LOL as we didnt know that already!! The ones that should be feeling ashame are they that even us beat them!!!
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I would not say that Brazil and Argentina are the best teams in the world, that would be Spain and Germany right now. Argentina has not been that good since the Maradona days, they do have some great individuals (Messi, Higuain, Tevez, Augero) but they have not performed well as a team. Brazil is pretty much the same, their old guard has retired, lets see how well their rising stars (people like Neymar and Hulk) do.
My team to watch in the next world cup would be Germany, they have many hugely talented players, they have the right mix between experience and youth, they play an attractive brand of football and have a good coach in Leow. Spain, on the other hand, might find it difficult to replicate their performance in the last world cup as some of their key players (Villa, Xavi, Alonso, Puyol) are in the twilight of their careers.
My team to watch in the next world cup would be Germany, they have many hugely talented players, they have the right mix between experience and youth, they play an attractive brand of football and have a good coach in Leow. Spain, on the other hand, might find it difficult to replicate their performance in the last world cup as some of their key players (Villa, Xavi, Alonso, Puyol) are in the twilight of their careers.
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NM I agree with your post.
Germany is always strong. They are some disciplined assholes! Very well coached indeed, but furthermore they are mature young players. Take Shweinzteiger, he´s about 25 and already a world class midfielder - attacks, defends, control, passes but most importantly runs all game long.
Spain will not compete at the same level. I agree.
This next match for brazil against Mexico is make or break right now. People are looking a bit more optimistic after the 4-1 against usa. it looks like the team is finally geling, which has been a major problem sim the "old guard" left.
Germany is always strong. They are some disciplined assholes! Very well coached indeed, but furthermore they are mature young players. Take Shweinzteiger, he´s about 25 and already a world class midfielder - attacks, defends, control, passes but most importantly runs all game long.
Spain will not compete at the same level. I agree.
This next match for brazil against Mexico is make or break right now. People are looking a bit more optimistic after the 4-1 against usa. it looks like the team is finally geling, which has been a major problem sim the "old guard" left.
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Last time they played it was in 2009 for a WC qualifying game. Unless its a friendly, the USA can´t choose not to play in Mexico.
The USA did not turn down the last invite. They actualy accepted to go, but due to the Gold Cup tournament and the subsequent matches against Mexico, decided to send their B-squad. The COMEBOL (governing body of south american soccer) declined to accept their B team.
I´m not bashing the Mexican squad, like I said, it will be a tough test for Brasil. If Brasil looses by more then 1 goal there is a good chance the coach will be fired.
However, I think you are forgetting that The USA team finished in the top 8 in the last WC. Including disqualifying Mexico in the final 16.
The last time they played was in 2009? Are you sure about that? LOL, me and the rest of the world must be imagining things... 4-2 in a final last year... The USA was winning 2-0 too then reality happened.
The USA disqualified Mexico the last world cup? If my memory is correct the USA was in the easiest group in the tournament. Mexico was in one of the hardest. They both made it to the round of sixteen with USA loosing to Ghana... And Mexico loosing to Argentina after a goal by Tevez where he was like three yards offside early in the game fucking up the whole momentum cause it was the first goal and one of the most ridiculous offsides non calls in the history of the tournament.
Put the pipe down man!
Oh and technically if just the last time the USA was invited to the Copa America they weren't allowed to play cause the USA didn't want to play by the rules isn't conmebol (that's the correct spelling by the way...) disqualifying them. It's the USA disqualifying themselves. Just doing it that way to save face. They always do shit like that.
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I mean one time they didn't go to Copa America and the excuse was that they were saving it for the olympics.. A tournament no one cares about. It's better to play and lose in Copa Merica but play with heart than try to be a big fish in a small pond and fail anyway.
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And Mexico loosing to Argentina after a goal by Tevez where he was like three yards offside early in the game fucking up the whole momentum cause it was the first goal and one of the most ridiculous offsides non calls in the history of the tournament.
And that would be a pretty long list, right?
Ahh, the World Cup, where the only thing worse than crooked-ass officials and administration are the 90 straight minutes of botched passes followed by somebody kicking the ball the length of the pitch.
I do kind of wish I had one of those plastic trumpets though.
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And that would be a pretty long list, right?
Ahh, the World Cup, where the only thing worse than crooked-ass officials and administration are the 90 straight minutes of botched passes followed by somebody kicking the ball the length of the pitch.
I do kind of wish I had one of those plastic trumpets though.
Sometimes stupid shit happens yes. But that one was pretty bad. It's not like goals like that happen a lot. If anything they are usually overzealous about the offside calls.
What seems like passing around and such is the game. The hardest thing in sport is to score a goal in soccer.. It's not hitting a fast ball. It's hard to score and it's a test of a team to score on a team that's defending and kicking the ball away. If you have a knife and you're fighting a guy with a gun you're gonna hide and stab him.. Not fight him straight up.. You'll loose. Once all the tactics and the game is understood on all the levels the drama is intense.
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What seems like passing around and such is the game.
Kind of.
I mean, you (and Fernando, and Mandy, and pretty much anyone else that posts in here) know way more about soccer than I do. But I've watched enough to see a giant difference between quality club soccer and the look of a panicked team that's not really used to playing together. Granted, the club soccer I've seen a lot of are some of the best teams in the world, which probably ruins the game for me, since anything less looks really haphazard and lacks any flow.
That said, I saw Netherlands play, and that was fun. You could actually see plays develop, then actually get executed, goal or no goal.
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And that would be a pretty long list, right?
Ahh, the World Cup, where the only thing worse than crooked-ass officials and administration are the 90 straight minutes of botched passes followed by somebody kicking the ball the length of the pitch.
I do kind of wish I had one of those plastic trumpets though.
I hated those stupid trumpets!!! they were annoying as hell!!
Me and a group of friends are planning to go to Brasil for the next WC, its so close to us that it would be stupid not to go, and every time we talk about it all i can think is please god make the FIFA band those stupid things!! Listening to Samba on those games would be amazing though!
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Team USA in soccer has about as much respect here as Mexico has for their basketball team or Brazil has for their baseball team. There is just no passion. Brazil and Mexico love soccer and it is their passion. Americans are not passionate about soccer yet. Maybe someday.
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The last time they played was in 2009? Are you sure about that? LOL, me and the rest of the world must be imagining things... 4-2 in a final last year... The USA was winning 2-0 too then reality happened.
The USA disqualified Mexico the last world cup? If my memory is correct the USA was in the easiest group in the tournament. Mexico was in one of the hardest. They both made it to the round of sixteen with USA loosing to Ghana... And Mexico loosing to Argentina after a goal by Tevez where he was like three yards offside early in the game fucking up the whole momentum cause it was the first goal and one of the most ridiculous offsides non calls in the history of the tournament.
Put the pipe down man!
Oh and technically if just the last time the USA was invited to the Copa America they weren't allowed to play cause the USA didn't want to play by the rules isn't conmebol (that's the correct spelling by the way...) disqualifying them. It's the USA disqualifying themselves. Just doing it that way to save face. They always do shit like that.
Last time the USA played in Mexico city was in 2009 - they lost 2-1.
re: WC - you are totally right... I really don´t know what the hell I was thinking... I read something on wikipedia "On neutral territory, the series is tied 2-2. In addition, the lone World Cup finals match between the two countries, a knockout, Round of 16 meeting at the 2002 FIFA World Cup in Jeonju, South Korea, resulted in a 2-0 victory for the United States." and did not realize it was the 2002 cup.
I personaly think they should go to copa america and libertadores (Clubs) and get their ass kicked to gain experience.
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I think you have to question a sport where a game lasts 90 minutes and fairly regularly ends in a 0-0 tie.
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I think you have to question a sport where a game lasts 90 minutes and fairly regularly ends in a 0-0 tie.
Personally, I have no issue with the low (or no) scores. I think the tension from so few scoring opportunities is one thing that makes the game exciting for those that love it. On the other hand, you have basketball, where, unless you really, really love the sport and care about a team, you can pretty much wait until the last two minutes before anything exciting happens.