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Has the old fashioned method of courting died out

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A quickie can be fun but the real enjoyment is in the intimacy. I've done a couple wham-bam-thank-you-mam's and I much prefer to take my time. Knowing what each likes and wants makes it so much better. It's all about trust. I want there to be a long time between, "Hi." and "Where's my panties?"

We are all slaves to our feelings and emotions but I don't think they're instincts. They're a learned thing and we have the power to change them if we try. I look at mine as my ego and I have a big one. Very demanding but I'm in control, not him. I do see it as a separate "Being?", I don't know, I just know that I do not allow most of the things he wants.

I learned to control it a long time ago.


The "where's my panties?" line is a classic - well said.

I was conceptualizing emotions as different from instincts. I suppose this is all open to debate and everyone's subjective perspective and how they define these ideas. But I was using instinct more in the traditional biological sense. As in one might have an instinct to fuck or eat or socialize.

I'm tempted to agree with you that the ego has some willpower but I suppose I subscribe to the "Jungian" worldview that there are bigger things out there than the ego. Are you familiar with Analytical Psychology? I feel like the difference you're getting at between your ego and something else, could be the Ego - Shadow axis or Ego - "Self" axis.

I'm also tempted to point out that people tend to use the word identity as a definition or synonym for ego, so one generalizing thing a person could say is ego = I. So when you say "[you're] in control, not him" you'd technically be getting at something outside yourself/ego.

If you found anything I said interesting, I'd suggest looking into the books "The I and the Not-I" and/or "Psychic Energy: Its origin and transformation" both by Mary Esther Harding. I feel like both works touch on the subject that we brought up.


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Someone else used the Panty line but it and the Wham-Bam lines are classic. I guess it shows how old I am.

I see what I think of as my "Ego" as that 2 year old child that still exists inside all or most of us. It demands everything and sees no reason it shouldn't get what it wants. That's "Him", not me. I am my mind, what it think and who I am. We learn this as children in the "growing up" process. Some just never grow up.

I was very interested in hypnosis years ago and took some psychology classes but stopped when I figured out how much damage I could inadvertently do to someone with it. I've read a lot but I do not remember the books you refer to.

Basically I'm an engineer, I tend to simplify things and I don't need to understand exactly why I do something to know I shouldn't do it to live in our societies rules. Just like I don't need to understand physics on a level like Einstein to design computers and make them work. I do study both though

I also have done several hundred stage plays and that same little beast whispers in every actors ears while they wait to go on. "You're stupid.", "Everyone knows you'll screw it up.", "Your flys open." Anything. I had to learn how to control all that.

I have an intellect that did grow up and I see him as me. I'm the dominate one and I will behave in the way I want. I will consider others, care and consideration will be shown, I will be a gentleman. I can still be silly and get enjoyment from childish things but not if they will cause damage to others.

I live between a 3 and 4 on the pain scale. Many surgeries on my back. The same techniques I learned to control the monster before I went on stage allows me to control the stress in my body and the pain becomes maskable, I don't feel it like that any more. I was taking 10 Norco, 100 mg of Codine and morphine every day. I don't take pain meds any more.

All that stress, anger, greed, and a lot of fear I see as the Ego I control, that child that's still there. When I confine all that I can throw it away, eliminate the stress and I'm in control.

Sex is an "Instinct" but we can learn to control it or there would be a lot more force being used and no female would be safe. That little beast wants sex from pretty much every female but I control that too.

As I learned this I discovered Taoism and that's what I try to be. It makes my life a lot easier.

Again, my opinion.

I am always a gentleman.
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I'm married and I still 'court' my wife. Sometimes I cook and do candlelight dinners, I take her out dancing, to dinner, to concerts, get her flowers. She loves anything where we have to dress up to do it. Keeping the romance hot definitely pays off in many other ways.
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I am always polite and well mannered with women. I firmly believe in treating a woman like a lady. That has enabled me to establish very good friendships that developed into significant trust as well as desire for each other once that they are able to figure out that I can be a very passionate, sensual and sexual man once that we can both feel comfortable with each other. I am not trying to take advantage of their trust through politeness and good manners; that is just my nature ... but I just happen to be a very sexual person once that I sense that there is good chemistry as well as interest and desire for each other.
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I was never one for jump in the sack but it happens. After my divorce 5 years ago, I found that the dating world had changed and it was hard to find men that actually wanted to date. Most I met preferred dinner and the sack. Some didn't even offer dinner but offered a treat in the car (insert ugh).
My boyfriend and I jumped in after the second date but he still takes me out and treats me like a lady. A rare find.