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i am a carnivore myself, but i think the two pics hardly tell a tale... the veggie one is just a pic as it was taken, the one of the meat eater just reeks of photoshop... let alone cosmetic products used over the years... maybe even a botox or two... oh yeah... did i hear someone say plastic surgeon? hehe
btw... nigella is HOT HOT HOT!
Re: Sophie Monk^^ Wasn't any vegan diet where she got those lips and boobs ... Hey! the body looks great. Just saying, if you're promoting an all natural, meat free diet, use a natural, enhancement free body.
Personally I'm on a seefood diet ... I see food - I eat it!
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I was so enthralled with this thread that I threw a couple of ribeyes on the grill last night, sauteed mushrooms in garlic and cabernet and tossed in some baked potatoes with sour cream, butter and chopped green onions. We don't need no steenking vegetables.
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Potatoes and onions are vegetables
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I've never been much of a meat-eater. Even as a kid I was really picky with it.
I'm also pro-PETA... and I was traumatized with high-school dissection of the fetal pig.
I spent my teens being vegan, but now I will eat a bit of chicken and mainly seafood. I will have red meat verrry sparingly.
These days the meat industry is pretty much a toxic cesspool with hormones and unhealthy animals living in unsanitary conditions.
I don't care if other people eat it though and it doesn't bother me to watch someone eat a steak... it's everyone's personal choice what they want to put into their bodies. For me, the chilli lime basil tofu from Whole Foods is one of my favourite meals ever. My system feels a lot better on a low-meat diet.
And the pics... as someone else pointed out. Yes, it's a big difference from a random no-makeup shot with the vegan-woman's hair pulled back vs. a photo of Nigella with full hair/make-up at a media event - also taken when she was younger in my opinion. I've seen recent candid shots of her, and she looks very much like a normal woman her age... beautiful (because of her great genetics), but not like she's discovered the fountain of youth at the local BBQ pit.
Sorry to mess up your thread ChefK. lol.
Carry on with the lip-smacking and the carcass roasting, everyone...
I'm also pro-PETA... and I was traumatized with high-school dissection of the fetal pig.
I spent my teens being vegan, but now I will eat a bit of chicken and mainly seafood. I will have red meat verrry sparingly.
These days the meat industry is pretty much a toxic cesspool with hormones and unhealthy animals living in unsanitary conditions.
I don't care if other people eat it though and it doesn't bother me to watch someone eat a steak... it's everyone's personal choice what they want to put into their bodies. For me, the chilli lime basil tofu from Whole Foods is one of my favourite meals ever. My system feels a lot better on a low-meat diet.
And the pics... as someone else pointed out. Yes, it's a big difference from a random no-makeup shot with the vegan-woman's hair pulled back vs. a photo of Nigella with full hair/make-up at a media event - also taken when she was younger in my opinion. I've seen recent candid shots of her, and she looks very much like a normal woman her age... beautiful (because of her great genetics), but not like she's discovered the fountain of youth at the local BBQ pit.
Sorry to mess up your thread ChefK. lol.
Carry on with the lip-smacking and the carcass roasting, everyone...
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I am an omnivore, and the photo of the pulled pork and slaw makes me want to hop in the car and head south. There's a little place in Richwood, WVA, Suzy's Kitchen, where for five bucks, you can get great coffee, a pulled pork sandwich (with slaw, of course), and a slice of homemade pecan pie or peanut butter pie - your choice.
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Mostly, I eat chicken and turkey, but will have a pot roast every once in awhile. Vegetarian/vegan foods, if made properly, I will have. I had a vegan chili that was really good. Now to find the recipe. I'm hungry now.
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while we are not vegan (i do like my cheese, and i still eat things like bread, which have eggs in them) we are close. We're both healthy, and fit, and rarely sick. oh, and we look hot. Yes, you were able to find the only vegan in the world who doesn't look hot, so congrats. the rest of us do. and we have sex. all the time. not like once a day, but constantly. it's because we don't eat meat. really hot sex. sex that most of you only dream about. all the time. and we're hot. little known fact. we're both 87. we look like we're in our 20s. Really really hot. cause we don't eat meat. did i mention we have lots of sex? with other hot vegans? lots of it. really kinky sex. all the time. *giggles*i once had sex with a 30 yo meat eater. it was too hot for him. he died. none of the vegans has died during sex. just the meat eaters. his heart gave out. that's why i don't have really hot sex with meat eaters anymore. i feel bad about killing them. poor meat eaters. they'd rather eat meat then have really hot sex with hot looking men or women.
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i once had sex with a 30 yo meat eater. it was too hot for him. he died. none of the vegans has died during sex. just the meat eaters. his heart gave out. that's why i don't have really hot sex with meat eaters anymore. i feel bad about killing them. poor meat eaters. they'd rather eat meat then have really hot sex with hot looking men or women.
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This thread reminds me of that most prfound gastronomic question: Vegetarian, isn't that a native American term for poor hunter?
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This thread reminds me of that most prfound gastronomic question: Vegetarian, isn't that a native American term for poor hunter?
Brilliant!
And FYI, I tried a vegan dish this past week-end. Some stir-fried onions, snow peas, egg-plant and bamboo shoots. It was absolutely delicious and complemented the side dish of beef tenderloin and half lobster immensely.
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Like the fabulous DLizzy I will admit to being a full on omnivore. ( I'm Chinese- there are far too many good things t eat!). In the last few years though, I've started to take more care about what I eat - I will take a great roasted eggplant over just an okay steak any day of the week. Also started being vegetarian for breakfast and lunch and saving the carnivore nature for dinner only.
So I guess this makes me bi??
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm putting down my tomato/avocado/old cheddar on multigrain (!) and seeking out a two inch think rib eye steak for dinner ....
Oh oh oh!! And red wine goes with everything!!!
So I guess this makes me bi??
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm putting down my tomato/avocado/old cheddar on multigrain (!) and seeking out a two inch think rib eye steak for dinner ....
Oh oh oh!! And red wine goes with everything!!!
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Being a Louisiana girl you know I eat meat. I love barbecue, blackened anything, fish, steaks, chicken, pork, crayfish and alligator. Yes alligator!
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This thread reminds me of that most prfound gastronomic question: Vegetarian, isn't that a native American term for poor hunter?
Thread winner!
Then again Bison is a very lean meat...
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Didn't you post this somewhere before because I've read it. Funny as hell.
This is where I tried rattlesnake and armadillo for the first time. Sadly Mr. Allen died and they tore down his cafe.
I've cooked ostrich, bison, quail, pheasant, deer,rabbit, squirrel and many others just to try them. Bison is really good. I think we still have canines for a reason. Otherwise our teeth would have softened over the years to nubs for mashing vegetables.
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Like I said before, I eat meat and have no real problem with the idea of eating animals. However, I am always very conscious of the fact that a life was ended in order for me to eat a piece of an arm, leg or a thigh. As well as the process behind it all.
I took a class 10 years ago called "environmental philosophy". I was given the opportunity to read and challenge notions that I never really thought about before. During the course of this class we debated our relationships with animals at length. We studied how we are from a very tender age, socially "conditioned" to eat meat by the and all of the environmental strains the meat industry imposes on the flora and fauna of the earth.
I don´t want to shit on all the fun here and I won´t go into all of the details but there are 3 ideas that really stuck with me.
1) The concept that humans are carnivores is socially/business created. Humans don´t have the biological tools (sharp teeth, strong jaws, claws, speed, camouflage...) to have been or to be carnivores. We have always relied on man made tools/weapons. Today we rely on the industry to kill, butcher, and serve the killed animal. So in essence, because of our superior intelligence we give ourselves the luxury to eat another animal.
2) The fact we don´t kill our food anymore has disguised the reality of the process behind a the final product. This idea was presented with a life experience from one of my fellow classmates at the time. He participated in a NOLS expedition that required the participants to live and travel in the Patagonia for 30 days. They were taught how to survive in the Forrest and with the Forrest. It was an incredibly intense experience, they lost weight and were pushed to their personal limits. As a finale, they were promised a banquet upon arriving at their destination that would involve a major barbecue but there was one catch. They needed to kill, skin, butcher and prepare the goat. To make a long story short, of the 20 participants of the expedition 3 had the courage to go through the process of preparing the "meat" and therefore ate the goat.
3) The majority of the worlds plantation fields are used for corn and soy - food for cattle. If, and that a big if, the world´s population became vegetarian (not vegan) tomorrow, there would be no famine anywhere on earth. We would have enough square feet to feed all 7 billions of us many times over. 90% of the deforestation in the Amazon is for cattle ranching or soy plantations for cattle ranching. The environmental implications that are a by-product of this ever growing industry are too many to mention...
Just some food for thought...
I took a class 10 years ago called "environmental philosophy". I was given the opportunity to read and challenge notions that I never really thought about before. During the course of this class we debated our relationships with animals at length. We studied how we are from a very tender age, socially "conditioned" to eat meat by the and all of the environmental strains the meat industry imposes on the flora and fauna of the earth.
I don´t want to shit on all the fun here and I won´t go into all of the details but there are 3 ideas that really stuck with me.
1) The concept that humans are carnivores is socially/business created. Humans don´t have the biological tools (sharp teeth, strong jaws, claws, speed, camouflage...) to have been or to be carnivores. We have always relied on man made tools/weapons. Today we rely on the industry to kill, butcher, and serve the killed animal. So in essence, because of our superior intelligence we give ourselves the luxury to eat another animal.
2) The fact we don´t kill our food anymore has disguised the reality of the process behind a the final product. This idea was presented with a life experience from one of my fellow classmates at the time. He participated in a NOLS expedition that required the participants to live and travel in the Patagonia for 30 days. They were taught how to survive in the Forrest and with the Forrest. It was an incredibly intense experience, they lost weight and were pushed to their personal limits. As a finale, they were promised a banquet upon arriving at their destination that would involve a major barbecue but there was one catch. They needed to kill, skin, butcher and prepare the goat. To make a long story short, of the 20 participants of the expedition 3 had the courage to go through the process of preparing the "meat" and therefore ate the goat.
3) The majority of the worlds plantation fields are used for corn and soy - food for cattle. If, and that a big if, the world´s population became vegetarian (not vegan) tomorrow, there would be no famine anywhere on earth. We would have enough square feet to feed all 7 billions of us many times over. 90% of the deforestation in the Amazon is for cattle ranching or soy plantations for cattle ranching. The environmental implications that are a by-product of this ever growing industry are too many to mention...
Just some food for thought...
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"The concept that humans are carnivores is socially/business created."
Humans are not carnivors. We're omnivors. The idea that we were all blissfully munching on plants and berries until our specie began to socialize and the meat packing business came along is not supported by any scientific or historical information I've ever come across.
Humans are not carnivors. We're omnivors. The idea that we were all blissfully munching on plants and berries until our specie began to socialize and the meat packing business came along is not supported by any scientific or historical information I've ever come across.
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1) The concept that humans are carnivores is socially/business created. Humans don´t have the biological tools (sharp teeth, strong jaws, claws, speed, camouflage...) to have been or to be carnivores. We have always relied on man made tools/weapons. Today we rely on the industry to kill, butcher, and serve the killed animal. So in essence, because of our superior intelligence we give ourselves the luxury to eat another animal.
Um yes we do. Any dentist will explain your teeth to you and what they were used for before we became as we are today. The front for biting, the sides (canines) for ripping/tearing and the back as grinders.
We evolved to using tools as our brains developed and the necessity to exist progressed. Chimps even use tools and yes they too will eat meat.
We rely on industry to kill and butcher our meat as we've again developed or evolved so that those that are good at it provide a service to those that are not. If I can afford to pay someone to kill my food while I'm doing other things, then I will and do.
Then again if you believe in the christian bible, does it not say that man will hold dominion over the animal to use as he sees fit. Beasts of burden as well as sustenance?
As for the NOLS "experiment" are you sure that the other 17 didn't participate because they lacked the strength from lack of protein to accomplish this? Living off of nuts and twigs doesn't make you afraid to kill and prepare and eat your own food, it just makes you weak from lack of sustenance. I've known several men that have lived more than 60 days without the help of ovens and ranchers and they did quite well living off the land and catching their own meat to eat. A lot of them still do it today. They're called Marines and Rangers and Seals.
@ RumpleForeskin -> I´m going to do a little research so that I can present you the tittles of the books that were presented during this course... I hope I can find them.
@ Chefkathleen -> Just because we have canines and molars does not at all mean we have been carnivores or are meant to be carnivores. We have created tools exactly because we are not biological predators. This is luxury we have. A brain capable of finding solutions.
Those three ideas were just to share what got me to think about what I put into my body. I even tried being a vegetarian but I was too uninformed at the time. So, did not know how to have a balanced meal and eventually gave in to a nice juicy hamburger. lol.
Of course all of us will pay someone to kill our food for us. That´s way too easy! This is exactly my point - think about it... If you had to kill your own food... would you? Try it some day... it´s an experience you won´t soon forget, I promise you. This was the exact point behind the NOLS experience. One of the paticipants volunteered to kill the goat while the others watched... They could not go through with the process. Whethere they are vegetarians today -- I don´t know and frankly is completely beside the point.
Understand this, I am in no way advocating that we all become vegetarians tomorrow... who am I to do such a thing. I love to question what I believe to make sure I really believe it or If I understand it as true because I was told by someone.
Question yourself... next time you go to the grocery store, try and figure out where the piece of steak came from, what the animal was fed -- same goes for the head of lettuce or the carrot or tomatoes... what kind of pesticides were used, what region of the city, state, country it came from... In the end, its your body and you know best.
@ Chefkathleen -> Just because we have canines and molars does not at all mean we have been carnivores or are meant to be carnivores. We have created tools exactly because we are not biological predators. This is luxury we have. A brain capable of finding solutions.
Those three ideas were just to share what got me to think about what I put into my body. I even tried being a vegetarian but I was too uninformed at the time. So, did not know how to have a balanced meal and eventually gave in to a nice juicy hamburger. lol.
Of course all of us will pay someone to kill our food for us. That´s way too easy! This is exactly my point - think about it... If you had to kill your own food... would you? Try it some day... it´s an experience you won´t soon forget, I promise you. This was the exact point behind the NOLS experience. One of the paticipants volunteered to kill the goat while the others watched... They could not go through with the process. Whethere they are vegetarians today -- I don´t know and frankly is completely beside the point.
Understand this, I am in no way advocating that we all become vegetarians tomorrow... who am I to do such a thing. I love to question what I believe to make sure I really believe it or If I understand it as true because I was told by someone.
Question yourself... next time you go to the grocery store, try and figure out where the piece of steak came from, what the animal was fed -- same goes for the head of lettuce or the carrot or tomatoes... what kind of pesticides were used, what region of the city, state, country it came from... In the end, its your body and you know best.
Yes that is exactly what those teeth do mean and what they were used for. We've evolved more to the point where we don't need them as much. Same with the wisdom teeth.
As for killing our own food, humans have done it for centuries. As I said, some do it better than others and some can pay for it to be done. With a tool or with a bare hand. One way or another it will get done. There's nothing better or more satisfying that grabbing a chicken hanging it up on a clothesline by it's feet and taking a butcher knife and whacking its head off. Plucking it and then frying it. Not everyone can do that. That's why we hire people to do it for us. Or go to restaurants.
As for knowing where on a steer my steak comes from. I do and always have.
Now, I could eat the North end out of a South bound cow. I need to do see what's for dinner.
As for killing our own food, humans have done it for centuries. As I said, some do it better than others and some can pay for it to be done. With a tool or with a bare hand. One way or another it will get done. There's nothing better or more satisfying that grabbing a chicken hanging it up on a clothesline by it's feet and taking a butcher knife and whacking its head off. Plucking it and then frying it. Not everyone can do that. That's why we hire people to do it for us. Or go to restaurants.
As for knowing where on a steer my steak comes from. I do and always have.
Now, I could eat the North end out of a South bound cow. I need to do see what's for dinner.
Buon appetito 
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I do not mind hunting my own food. My policy is to eat what I shoot or make sure it gets to someone who will eat it. All modern human beings were hunter-gatherers until about 10,000 years ago, when the first farming first started. I still carry on the tradition of hunting. I also don't mind picking up fresh grown produce at my granddad's farm. He enjoys loading me up. I also love fishing with my granddad and of course eating what I catch.
