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ADarkAngel
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Quote by Lacie_Dee
Yes I would like to see such a room, and I also have another suggestion for how entry to the room could be moderated. I would like to see membership in the room totally restricted to those who have some kind of voice chat and are willing to at least say a brief hello, in voice, to show that they are a real woman. This will keep out the fake guys. Not sure exactly how it could be done but that is my thought and suggestion.


It isn't necessarily a bad idea, but not fool proof. All a male have to do is use a recording of a lady saying hello to get past that initial voice check. There is also the coding involved and bandwidth.

Let's say Lush goes with what Fetlife is doing, that being requiring a phone number to join. Well, couldn't someone use a burner phone for that to at least get in?

All this aside, you're thinking outside the box to help improve Lush, and that is a good thing.
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In the context of Lush chat rooms, or chat rooms in general, both.

Otherwise, neither. For instance the company I work for has a policy regarding social media and how you are portrayed online reflecting upon the company. That alone is enough reason for me to avoid being openly either in the real world.
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Actually, this section of the forum is Ask the Gals. Never sure why guys respond to threads in this section. Other than you, only one other guy responded and that was to support the idea. Kat asked for males who support it to respond, not for opinions against it from men.


Actually he also said he was fine with it just didn't understand the need for it. So I thought I was careful in my wording and explained my reasoning clearly enough. I just don't understand why that wasn't accepted well.
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Okay here is how I see it now. You want a room that allows open bdsm play between women only due to the fact that in the Basement there are men who you don't want to "perform" in front and in the Ladies Room there are vanillas who jeer, notwithstanding the fakes, men as women or couples, who are there.

The way I see it there are already rules in place to take care of this. As you pointed out nothing can be done about men who masquerade, but the jeering? If that happens in a regular room and we call a mod we're told to hit block. Doesn't that take care of this situation too? And aren't we NOT supposed to be mocking or judging others kinks? So shouldn't they be warned and then blocked by the mods? After a few of those encounters the jeering would stop.

As I said earlier, I don't engage in nor do I like open room play. When it starts in a room I'm in, either I leave or I block those who are engaging in it.

Would an additional room take up more bandwidth and possibly cause more problems now, or down the line?

This really sounds like a very narrow niche room to me.


Narrow niche or not, and I personally do not see it as such, it would at the VERY least give the Ladies at Lush another safe zone away from men. The current Ladies of Lush room become full frequently enough to warrant another Ladies only room.

I feel the point is missed when it is said there are already rules in place to cover open play and due to what is an obvious disinterest in such activity there is desire to want to dismiss it out of hand. Okay then, let's take that off the table for a moment. It however shouldn't be considered open play to address your sub, or your mistress in the terms you've established for yourselves. Yet, even minor things like that have at times been looked down upon.

It was said report the jeering to a mod. That's great, just what anyone coming to this site needs. A mess to watch unfold that a mod has to clean up. I've gone that route before, and while well meaning and defending the right to play openly, the few mods that I have had to turn to came off as, "I see your point, but don't like having to defend it." That is oh so welcoming.

What is sad though... Most of the rooms made after the Lush Lounge were meant to allow open play, but so many came along to discredit the value open play provides to certain members of Lush.

And yes, terms like "block open players" and "leave when it starts" is a form of intolerance that mocks/sneers at individuals wanting to play openly. As was said, shouldn't we be abstaining from mocking another person's kinks? Certain phrasing of words and attitudes behind the words that have been spoken in this thread certainly seem incongruent with the spirit of refraining from belittling the kinks of others, and yes open play is a kink because it is a form of exhibitionism.

Do we want to force others who are not into such kinks to watch/read it? I for one do not. Not anymore. Do I want a permanently open area that is safe for women to participate as "performers" and watchers? Yes.






Just thought of a name for the room if Gav is interested.

Lush Ladies Exhibition

Hopefully it will convey the sense that this one room, more so than any of the others is to be an Open Play room where intolerence toward those playing openly will be strongly frowned upon, equal to suddenly discovering a man in the room who was bothering the ladies in there.
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yeah, thing with that is, if we gave someone that ability, it would work in all the chat rooms - you'd have mod powers, and i just am thinking that it would open a can of worms. i am thinking that a small core of Dommes probably won't have the apathy issue, anyways. smile
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very true
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I'm confused.

1. I know women who do not go into the Ladies room because as I've been told, "there are too many men in there". What would be different about this room?

2. If the purpose if for open play, something which I don't engage in nor do I like in the rooms, then why be concerned about people leering? Isn't that the purpose of doing it openly?

3. As for women jeering, wouldn't that happen in real life if you were so bold?

4. If it's just a matter of playing, then open a private room and play in it.


I have no problem with setting up a room I'm just not sure I understand why.


To point number 1...
I cannot say it won't happen again with the room I am suggesting be created if men sign up as women to pretend to be women. That is on them for doing that and if someone believes a person is pretending to be someone that they are not, then the "pretender" should be reported to Lush's admin team.

Regarding point 2...
For me, I do not want random male strangers leering at my activities if I choose to be an online exhibitionist. Women leering at my antics is fine for me though. The purpose of the room is to also segregate those of us that do want to play openly from those that don't. It will also free up space in the Ladies of Lush room for the vanillas to kick back and relax in an easy going chat. Bit of history though, back when I was on here as Katland and Lush was still fairly new, I would open a chat room called Ladies of Lush and it most certainly was open play in there. Once Lush made it an official room it stayed open play for a while, but over time the vanillas took it over shaming those of us wanting to play.

Regarding point 3...
No kidding that would happen in most real world settings. Yet, even in the real world there are places created to cater to open play. I personally am not keen on going to such when men are present at same time though. I have some emotional/psychological baggage that makes me very anxious when men are involved in such open play areas in the real world. Convert that sense of unease to this over all topic, and that is where I was coming from under point 2.

Regarding point 4...
I already mentioned in the past I had created rooms like the one you suggested. However, first men signed up as men can just barge in if you try to keep the room where women can come and go as they please. Yes the creator of the room can kick them, but why would the creator want to constantly be ripped out of the scene or conversation they are in to deal with a bastard that can't read that the room is supposed to be for women only. So then what? Put a password on the room? That completely defeats the purpose of wanting women to come in at their leisure. As the host of the room you also don't want to be stopped down every so often to give out the password to the room to a lady wanting to enter the room. Then there is fact the room will vanish in time once the host leaves the room. All it takes is everyone to be kicked off lush for a period of time, and bye bye room. Let's say a submissive is the host of such a created room, it serves as too much of a distraction to manage the room for the submissive.

Bonus point...
As few as five years ago when women were indeed opening up open play rooms for women to come and go out of as they wanted, those rooms were either constantly 75 to 100 percent full, where as the Ladies of Lush room would barely be half full. That memory is yet another reason I and those in our group page about the creation of such an fetish friendly open play room for women only feel this is an important thing for Lush to have available.


I hope I have sufficently answered your questions. smile
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no, just the ladies room does. i'll ask him to add it - i kind of guessed it would be a desired feature.

and yes, i am. never forget it ;)


I won't !!! biggrin
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So, i talked to Nikki earlier and we decided to go ahead with this - one question - do you gals want this to be set up like the ladies room where you can kick anyone who doesn't belong, or just a regular room?

oh, and Gav's off for a couple of days, so i can't give you an eta yet - shouldn't take too long, tho. will update ya'll when i can. smile


I thought all the rooms had crowd control in them so didn't give this any thought until I read your post. I am not even sure crowd control is even being used actively in the Ladies of Lush room to be honest.

I think, if Gav is willing to go the extra mile to add crowd control it would be nice as another safety feature, but I feel just getting this far is almost enough to ask for.

You are the best, Sprite!!
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Not sure how you control who enters and who does not. I almost never go to the chat rooms. I thought if it was a member room only, you just kick an offender out.

How would this be different?

However if enough of the Lush ladies want this why not.


Sorry if this comes off as a broken record...

The Ladies of Lush chat room is coded so only female members can enter. However, that room is VERY anti-open play, or openly behaving as Mistresses and Submissives. Some of the vanialla girls go so far as to attempt to bring in admins, only for the admins to basically side with the open play, but advise the open playing party to consider taking it elsewhere. At least that has been my experience.

That is why I and others are advocating for an open play area restricted to ladies that is Fetish Friendly.
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Not sure how much this would be used, but i'd like to hear from people who would use it - honestly, it's not a bad idea, and if it seems like a popular one, i wouldn't hate to see it implemented. honestly, the ladies room kind of scares me...


Hi Sprite, long time no talk to. Its Katland here. Hope you remember me.

However, to answer your concern, one of the biggest problems is we can't openly play in the Ladies room like we used to be able to. Any women that do so are ripped to shreds by the vanillas who are at a minimum into exhibitionism.

Anyhow, between this post and the group I made along with PrettyJoanne, we are hoping to show the moderators there is significant interest. That and there are other rooms not getting much attention as is. Why not repurpose one of those rooms for what Inand the others at our group are suggesting?
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How many times have you wanted to openly discuss in a safe zone fetish matters where men won't leer at us and the vanilla girls of lush won't jeer at us?

I know I have constantly needed this.

If you believe Lush could or should provide such a permanet room, please consider joining the group we hope to show Lush a unified desire for such a room.

The group is at https://

Thank you for your support. Not a fan of fetish things we still could use your support. If you just want the "freaks" out of the Ladies of Lush room, that's fine too, but be willing to at least join the group to voice such in a constructive manner.

Are you a male reading this, and think the ladies of lush into fetishes need a safe zone, please show your support too at the group.
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john, you aren't wrong, but not fully right either.

then again I suppose the site wouldn't want to provide something free like a randomized one on one chat to provide people with the thrill of meeting random people based on search criteria.

just note... unless the site goes back to allowing non-paying members to make rooms, then my statement of you being wrong will stand. hmmmm sorry if sounding harsh there. just trying to get my point across clearly.
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I saw the site recently added a tube/video section and wondered if the site would be open to another way for people to meet up online.

Why not create a chat based section much like Omegle, but throw in catagories that people could explore?

Sometimes it is just daunting to go to the standard chat rooms and try to strike up a conversation with a random person. At least having something like this could break the ice for so many that come here.

No video though so as to cut down costs.
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Our policy is very clear on the subject, as laid down in our terms and conditions:

• I agree not to discuss or make mention of the subjects: , , sex with underage people, child abuse, dangerous sexual acts, drugging, suicide or , either in the forums, chat rooms, messaging, comment areas or in member profiles.

Anyone caught discussing these subjects in the chat rooms, or anywhere else on our site for that matter, will be met with an instant ban, and all their details will be reported to the relevant authorities in the country they reside.


If I may do an aside...

I have been away for a while again only to come back to see Lush has once again added the fantasy section for stories as well as adding teen as an option. One such teen recent story had two underage lesbians (16 year olds) trick a 19 year old girl into being their bondge playmate. A.K.A. the younger teens the older girl, then left the 19 year old for the parents to discover, who then at the story's end proceed to have their way with the 19 year old too.

So here's the problem... It is a significant double standard to allow any story to be published about any form of (step siblings or blood relatives) or underage, only to say such will not be tolerated in any chat area. Unless there has been a revision of the terms of service to allow such talk across any section of Lush, then I must strongly state all stories about /underage must be removed from the site as well.
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Gav, is this still true? The site has changed over time and was wondering.
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