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Re business model: I didn't know that, didn't realise these were Lush publications, imagined the authors were publicising themselves. If, as you say, they play no part in the 'tackiness', no blame should be placed at their door.
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Alexandra_A
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Milik said:
"That said, I also respect a persons home when I'm in it, and this home is owned by someone who doesn't wish to be associated with certain types of stories. How can we demand our rights be respected and then curse her for wanting hers to be? I believe in Lush and what it stands for. For that, I'll defend her right to run it her way."
It isn't even about respect. It's about ownership. The owner dictates what the owner wants. It's their space, their time, their money, and their intellectual property. You, as moderators, do as you are told or you are fired (just out of interest, do you get paid or is it an honorary post?), and we, as contributors, follow the rule of law. I'm not being controversial here, merely stating a very reasonable fact. If the rules are don't get on the bus whilst chewing gum, don't be surprised if you are thrown off for doing so; whether the rule is reasonable or not is not for us to decide: we didn't buy the bus.
"That said, I also respect a persons home when I'm in it, and this home is owned by someone who doesn't wish to be associated with certain types of stories. How can we demand our rights be respected and then curse her for wanting hers to be? I believe in Lush and what it stands for. For that, I'll defend her right to run it her way."
It isn't even about respect. It's about ownership. The owner dictates what the owner wants. It's their space, their time, their money, and their intellectual property. You, as moderators, do as you are told or you are fired (just out of interest, do you get paid or is it an honorary post?), and we, as contributors, follow the rule of law. I'm not being controversial here, merely stating a very reasonable fact. If the rules are don't get on the bus whilst chewing gum, don't be surprised if you are thrown off for doing so; whether the rule is reasonable or not is not for us to decide: we didn't buy the bus.
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Yes, sorry, I understand the signature thingy. I should been more precise: can we lose the adverts from the forum signatures, please? It's tacky, desperate and sad, and, to me, undermines what the person has to say. How can one speak seriously, earnestly and with gravitas and then underline it with a banner to sell some porn one has written? Even here, on a sex story site, it is surely bad taste? Just my opinion.
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And can we lose the adverts in here please? It's like, 'This is my opinion, now would you like to buy my book?' Can't you say something without trying to simultaneously sell me something? Stealing someone else's clever words in order to bask in their reflected cleverness is surely bad enough... Should I have started another thread with this? Should I? Lol Perhaps I should.
I think it was Jesus who said, 'You debase yourselves and your opinions with this tawdry practice.' Or was it Margaret Thatcher?
By the way - I have a book out on Amazon. There's a link on my profile page but I thought more people might see this. (Damn! Yes, it is tempting though, isn't it?)
I think it was Jesus who said, 'You debase yourselves and your opinions with this tawdry practice.' Or was it Margaret Thatcher?
By the way - I have a book out on Amazon. There's a link on my profile page but I thought more people might see this. (Damn! Yes, it is tempting though, isn't it?)
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is (in my opinion) a well-written erotic story containing a central character who is twelve years of age. I can buy it on Amazon and in almost any reputable bookshop. Bearing that in mind, I think it wise to avoid dubious law enforcement issues and avoid also watering down your point with references to artistic considerations. It's against the site's T & C and so that's it.
In my opinion (though it is worthless as I am powerless):
The word 'naked' could surely be taken from that sentence. If it can't then I would suspect some sexual implication or intention. It may (I haven't read the story, sorry. Yes, perhaps I should. Maybe I will...) foreshadow later events where nakedness is sexual and where the reader is reminded of this (seemingly/apparently) important moment between father and naked daughter.
In my opinion (though it is worthless as I am powerless):
The word 'naked' could surely be taken from that sentence. If it can't then I would suspect some sexual implication or intention. It may (I haven't read the story, sorry. Yes, perhaps I should. Maybe I will...) foreshadow later events where nakedness is sexual and where the reader is reminded of this (seemingly/apparently) important moment between father and naked daughter.
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It doesn't matter where it is or what the ambient temperature is: if I'm there, it's the hottest place you're ever going to go.
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Gustav Holst once said, "Never compose anything unless the not composing of it becomes a positive nuisance to you." I think the same should go for writing.
Bearing that in mind, why would you start writing a story if you don't have a story to write? It would be like starting a football match without a ball.
I know we all have different methods, different systems, different motivations, and great books have been written with no planning, just by letting the characters find their own way. That said, at the heart of it all there has to be an idea that drives the process along. As long as it's not a fatally flawed idea then the story will demand to be finished. If the desire fizzles out then rest assured the story wasn't worth the telling.
Oh, and perhaps we need to qualify the word 'story'. If it's a description of two people shagging with a few lines to set up the encounter, then that - valuable as it may be as a piece of prose - wouldn't really get my vote as being a story. It strikes me that perhaps we're not even talking about the same thing...
On the '30 or 40 minutes' line:
Writing is hard work. As Sprite and others above have said, it can take weeks to write even a short story. In my case, I then spend hours and hours on rerreads and editing, chipping away and amending before I can read it through and think it's okay. Then I leave it a few days and start editing again.
(The above probably says more about my intellect and writing ability than it does about anything else: I'm sure there are gifted writers to whom the words come in almost finished form and for whom the above timescale and work ethic would be unnecessary. Hope you are one of those! I certainly am not.)
Good luck!
Bearing that in mind, why would you start writing a story if you don't have a story to write? It would be like starting a football match without a ball.
I know we all have different methods, different systems, different motivations, and great books have been written with no planning, just by letting the characters find their own way. That said, at the heart of it all there has to be an idea that drives the process along. As long as it's not a fatally flawed idea then the story will demand to be finished. If the desire fizzles out then rest assured the story wasn't worth the telling.
Oh, and perhaps we need to qualify the word 'story'. If it's a description of two people shagging with a few lines to set up the encounter, then that - valuable as it may be as a piece of prose - wouldn't really get my vote as being a story. It strikes me that perhaps we're not even talking about the same thing...
On the '30 or 40 minutes' line:
Writing is hard work. As Sprite and others above have said, it can take weeks to write even a short story. In my case, I then spend hours and hours on rerreads and editing, chipping away and amending before I can read it through and think it's okay. Then I leave it a few days and start editing again.
(The above probably says more about my intellect and writing ability than it does about anything else: I'm sure there are gifted writers to whom the words come in almost finished form and for whom the above timescale and work ethic would be unnecessary. Hope you are one of those! I certainly am not.)
Good luck!
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The gleaming two-litre engine throbbed as the vehicle gunned down the black ribbon of tarmac. Courtney pressed her delicious 36, 22, 36 curves firmly into his muscled torso and felt the desert wind sing through flailing tendrils of her blonde hair...
That's all okay for now, but we will reach a point (if not already reached - I see it here all the time) when the first paragraph is a parody of good writing, overly verbose and overflowing with ridiculous amounts of description and action. It looks (to me, at least) ridiculous and desperate; tasteless and tragic.
All society is dumbing down and this is just one example of it. Of Mice and Men, Anna Karenina, War and Peace, Doctor Zhivago... most of Dickens, Conrad... it seems none of these would be published now. We, as educated adults, should be ashamed that we are pandering to the mindless moronic multitude for a quick buck or a second or two of pointless popularity.
Write what you want to write and if no fucker reads it, so what? Be true to yourself. Isn't that what art is all about? There are certainly some great tips here to improve our writing, but appealing to the masses is not necessarily improvement. If it's trashy and formulaic, you're the poor fucker who has to put their hand up and say, ' I wrote that and it's as good as I could get it.'
Then again, if your aim is to write trashy porn and make a couple of quid, go for it. It seems there are a few here who do that quite successfully. And good for them!
They screeched into a seedy backwater motel and headed straight for the bar. Crossing her long legs, she sipped her Bloody Mary, wetting her plush crimson lips as she hungrily eyed his swelling crotch.
'This,' thought Blane, 'is going to be one hell of a night!'
That's all okay for now, but we will reach a point (if not already reached - I see it here all the time) when the first paragraph is a parody of good writing, overly verbose and overflowing with ridiculous amounts of description and action. It looks (to me, at least) ridiculous and desperate; tasteless and tragic.
All society is dumbing down and this is just one example of it. Of Mice and Men, Anna Karenina, War and Peace, Doctor Zhivago... most of Dickens, Conrad... it seems none of these would be published now. We, as educated adults, should be ashamed that we are pandering to the mindless moronic multitude for a quick buck or a second or two of pointless popularity.
Write what you want to write and if no fucker reads it, so what? Be true to yourself. Isn't that what art is all about? There are certainly some great tips here to improve our writing, but appealing to the masses is not necessarily improvement. If it's trashy and formulaic, you're the poor fucker who has to put their hand up and say, ' I wrote that and it's as good as I could get it.'
Then again, if your aim is to write trashy porn and make a couple of quid, go for it. It seems there are a few here who do that quite successfully. And good for them!
They screeched into a seedy backwater motel and headed straight for the bar. Crossing her long legs, she sipped her Bloody Mary, wetting her plush crimson lips as she hungrily eyed his swelling crotch.
'This,' thought Blane, 'is going to be one hell of a night!'
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Not something added, but certainly an improvement:
Do away with the voting. It is meaningless.
5 is excellent, flawless, unimprovable. It's Shakespeare, Dickens, Hemingway and Jane Austen. Once ordinary is worth 5, there's no where to go.
Everyone gives their friends 5, regardless of the quality. And people give 5 in the hope that others will reciprocate when their own stories are judged. And then, at the other extreme, you get the 'jealous haters' who gives ones.
5 means different things to different people. Did it make me horny? Did it make me cum? Was it well-written? Original? Thought-provoking? Funny? Clever? Dirty? Did it have in it? Not have in it? Was it by my friend? Will it upset someone if I give it 3?
To be honest: I give 4 from hopeless to average and 5 for everything above. Is that just me? I think not...
Perhaps - and here's a thought - we should not be able to vote on our friends stories. In that way, bias would be removed and people may well vote as they truly feel, with no axes to grind and no pally pats on the back.
Or - another thought - simply have a 'thumbs up' if we liked it, with nothing if we didn't. If we have to have a form of voting then this, I feel, is the only way forward.
To sum up: unless anyone can give a good reason for keeping this voting thingy, let's bin it.
Shall we have a vote on it? (I'll give it a 4)
Do away with the voting. It is meaningless.
5 is excellent, flawless, unimprovable. It's Shakespeare, Dickens, Hemingway and Jane Austen. Once ordinary is worth 5, there's no where to go.
Everyone gives their friends 5, regardless of the quality. And people give 5 in the hope that others will reciprocate when their own stories are judged. And then, at the other extreme, you get the 'jealous haters' who gives ones.
5 means different things to different people. Did it make me horny? Did it make me cum? Was it well-written? Original? Thought-provoking? Funny? Clever? Dirty? Did it have in it? Not have in it? Was it by my friend? Will it upset someone if I give it 3?
To be honest: I give 4 from hopeless to average and 5 for everything above. Is that just me? I think not...
Perhaps - and here's a thought - we should not be able to vote on our friends stories. In that way, bias would be removed and people may well vote as they truly feel, with no axes to grind and no pally pats on the back.
Or - another thought - simply have a 'thumbs up' if we liked it, with nothing if we didn't. If we have to have a form of voting then this, I feel, is the only way forward.
To sum up: unless anyone can give a good reason for keeping this voting thingy, let's bin it.
Shall we have a vote on it? (I'll give it a 4)
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Nobody who ended their spoilt attention-seeking ego-exploding lives with the sordid self-indulgence of alcohol or drugs. Let the silly fuckers rot. I would not waste my wish on Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin et al, no matter how good they were (or have become in their absence).
Oh, except Charlie Parker, because he transcended everything.
Oh, except Charlie Parker, because he transcended everything.
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One Direction
...so I didn't get into trouble after I'd killed them all slowly and painfully. They are talentless puppets, the imperfect personification of everything that is wrong with popular culture. Passable singers, yet they don't dance, play, write... nor do they have anything to say except, 'Look how pretty I am'.
I don't blame them for making a buck, but nor can you blame me for ridding the world of this paradigm of mass-media-mediocrity.
Alternative answer
Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, Mingus... Ella... and George Formby.
...so I didn't get into trouble after I'd killed them all slowly and painfully. They are talentless puppets, the imperfect personification of everything that is wrong with popular culture. Passable singers, yet they don't dance, play, write... nor do they have anything to say except, 'Look how pretty I am'.
I don't blame them for making a buck, but nor can you blame me for ridding the world of this paradigm of mass-media-mediocrity.
Alternative answer
Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, Mingus... Ella... and George Formby.