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Dancing_Doll
Over 90 days ago
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What scent do you girls prefer on a man? I know this is a bit off topic from Skincare 101, but I'm curious to know.

Do you like strong colognes that make you feel "Ohh, that's manly"? Or do you prefer something subtler? Or is it situation dependant?



I prefer subtle clean scents on a guy as well. Nothing overpowering where I can smell it on the person as they walk into the room but a bit of scent is nice when I lean in close. I don't like what I guess would be considered 'typical men's cologne' fragrances that are sharp, heavy or musky. I like something a bit soapy and 'out of the shower' clean or ones with woody/green notes or ones with vague 'marine' undertones like Bvulgari Aqva. I even like some unisex fragrances on men - Tom Ford's Neroli Portofino is soooo amazing but the price tag is crazy. I did smell it on a guy not too long ago, however, and I loved it. It's kind of citrusy and soapy. For me the key word to any great men's scent is "fresh"... if that can be used to describe it, I'll probably like it.
I would say bi-curious until you've actually experienced it - especially if you're just fantasizing at this stage and have mixed feelings about it (eg. wanting a blindfold etc.).

You might also have a sexually submissive side that you want to explore too (the blindfold and taking advantage bit). If your current sexual experiences have you in the traditionally dominant role with women, maybe you're more interested in experiencing a sub role. Like would a woman wearing a strap-on while you were blindfolded be a turn on, or is it specifically a guy's cock that excites you in that scenario. The first would be desire to be in a sub role and the latter would be bi-curious leanings. Or, it might be a bit of both.

I also agree that sexuality is fluid and can change to a certain degree with time and experience.
In the fall, I like to layer these two scents (Jo Malone scents are meant to be layered, if you like, to create a unique personalized scent). Her fragrances are pretty amazing because they are very true to what they are named after - they're not the artificial or sugarified interpretations you often find perfumeries opting for.

First is 'Wild Fig & Cassis' which is a very clean scent that I think is quite unisex. It is very true to the product description (Inspired by breakfast in Tuscany - the moment of breaking open juicy figs, fresh from the tree - Wild Fig & Cassis is a delicious fragrance. The scent of sun-warmed figs and delicate cassis is entwined with notes of hyacinth and cedarwood, enveloping the wearer in the warmth of the Mediterranean). Really - it's fucking fantastic!



Then over top - I like 'French Lime Blossom' which gives it a more feminine touch. The description is: Inspired by a stroll along the Champs Élysées, French Lime Blossom is a romantic, full-bodied floral. The scent of sweet lime blossoms with a twist of bergamot and tarragon is evocative of the first day of spring. This is still a very clean and green floral though - I'm not fond of sickly sweet or overpowering florals because they often give me a headache. This is fresh and modern and smells great just on its own as well.


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I agree. It's very rare that I come across a VS scent that I actually like. They don't do well with subtle. And my VS fragrance phase happened in high school as well. Those 7 for $35 deals were hard to pass up.FiIgSR756HbjlERF But the lotions hardly warrant the name. So oily. Not nourishing oily...just oily for no reason. It was so annoying to see my visibly shiny/oily skin and yet still feel super dry. If their fragrance/lotion/body wash lines were as good as their underwear lines, they'd be unbeatable.


LOL... I used to LOVE those 7 for $35 deals. I passed by one a few months ago and had a wave of nostalgia.

I agree though - the lotions were awful. Mostly I just stuck with the fruity and coconutty body mists. Looking back - I'm pretty sure I smelled like a fruit bowl for at least part of my teens.
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Concerning scents, SoftSoaps seem interesting, but do these smell too girly?

I don't think my IrishSpring smells that strong by the way, I can barely smell anything when it's right out of the bottle plus most of it is rinsed off. You can only smell these body wash when your nose is almost on the person's skin.


They sell SoftSoaps at most drugstores so have a smell next time you're in one. I don't think they smell particularly girly - the shea butter in particular seems pretty neutral (just a good smell). I've bought it as a regular hand soap as well for the bathroom.

I don't mind some Irish Spring soaps - there's a few that are more masculine to me than the original. If I remember correctly, the green ones are better than the blue ones.

There are some shower gels that do smell very 'guy'ish'. The times when I've used a guy's shower and that's all that's available, I can always smell it lingering on my skin and it drives me nuts.
It's kind of like being a 'furry' but without dressing up (necessarily), right? Like your inner animal persona etc. I notice there is a distinct culture around it. I assume a lot of cat owners and people who like being collared are drawn to it too, so I can see the BDSM influence in a way.

If it makes people happy, it's all good.

Has anyone ever been romantically (or sexually) involved with someone who was anti-kitty? Like they didn't get it or were weirded out by it or your needs? How do you handle it? Can you closet your inner-kitty for the sake of a relationship or is it so integral to you that it would be impossible to do this?

Interesting thread!
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Haha. The only guys I've ever known that had body blooms in their showers had them because I put them there.

Re your SoftSoap, I am in LOVE with their scents. I have a roommate that buys all kinds of different ones, and they smell amazing, but unfortunately I can't use them. I used it once and my skin got really splotchy and irritated. They also make hand soaps, and I was using it and it dried my hands out really badly. I'm not sure why. A lot of Victoria's Secret's stuff (body wash) did the same to my skin...but it took a while longer. But I was never much for their scents or lotions, anyways. You can literally see their lotions sit on top of your skin.



This SoftSoap (Shea) is my fave scent. I keep going back to it.



I also really like the more herbal type organic lavender ones you get at Whole Foods.

I'm not a huge fan of VS lotions (haven't used them since highschool) but I did like some of their body mists at one point. They are quite strong though - there was one scent I liked - I can't remember it off-hand but it smelled just like my fave shampoo. lol
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Really? They are pretty common where I'm from. Like in the body product section they have huge baskets of them, More than any other type of shower scrub thingy. Some of the shower gels targeted at men even come with a free one. Some also have like a rubber piece attached to them to make them seem more manly but those are dumb because you can't rinse it out properly.


I thought it was weird too. But nope - I have yet to find one in there. That's why I bring a smaller travel-puff for overnighters and with a BF, I'll just leave one at his place.
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Lol. Your shower puff is my body bloom.


LOL... You know, it's funny - I have yet to see a shower-puff (or anything similar) in a guy's bathroom. They're so awesome though! And they do make them in more neutral 'manly' colours too. Guys - don't be afraid to puff! smile
I use a shower-puff and shower gel. I don't stick to one particular scent. One that I've re-bought a few times is the SoftSoap Shea Butter one - I like the scent of that one. But I'll often pick things up at random depending on what's on sale and what scent I feel like.




One thing I also use once a week is this Sea Salt Skin Smoother by H2O - especially on my legs. This stuff is awesome. It leaves them silky smooth. It's also great for any rough patches or on the hands during the winter months. It has stuff like almond oil and anti-aging marine extracts and various other things in it. You will notice the difference immediately once you scrub and wash it off. They did a little demo at the store for me many years ago and since then I've been hooked. One jar lasts quite a long time too.



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Yes... and no. lol

1. The two original friends may not have been talking shit. Maybe they were talking favorably of the friend, or of concern of a health problem. Or just talking about his new car, who knows. He could very well have been gossip or mean spirited shit.. but maybe not.

2. Maybe the boyfriend is the one that blabbed? Maybe he told a buddy and he told someone, it got around and got back to the gf?(although we now know that the gf found out via snooping)



My assumption - if this conversation resulted in someone being served an ultimatum to break off a friendship than I wouldn't think the convo was favourable or just random chit chat. That rarely stirs up the kind of drama to incite that.

And in this hypothetical - it sounds like the BF is annoyed this 'private convo' got out, so I was thinking he wasn't the source of the blabbing.

Anyway - obviously as you said - we now know snooping is the issue. These "my friend said this about that friend and now you can't be her friend" type situations (or hypotheticals) always seem to be a clusterfuck of blame anyway.
I often just bring in my own stuff - usually a package of dried mangos mixed with unsalted almonds.



If I'm going for real candy - I'll probably pick some kind of licorice or jelly-bellies.
Note: Calling the OP a 'waste of space' because he's from a certain country without knowing anything about that person is flat out wrong, sorry. People are not countries or stats or religions. The 'don't jump down others throats before posting' statement applies in this case too. If we can all remember our forum respect and drop the generalizations, the thread can continue.

As for the question - domestic violence is an issue in most parts of the world. In some cases, religion and culture may defend the perpetrators to a certain degree. Women do not like it, under any circumstances - but in many cases they lack the self-esteem or financial abilities to leave a situation. If there are kids involved, it complicates things even further. In some cases, escaping such a situation may trigger an escalation of violence, so there's that too. Staying in an abusive relationship doesn't mean they are content with the situation - merely that they are trapped.
It's varied slightly but they all share the commonality of being fit guys. Within the fitness realm, it's ranged from lean yoga-body type to typical swimmer/surfer build to a shredded muscular build. Nothing excessively bulky though as that tends to be a turn-off for me in the same way that a skinny guy would be. Slightly softer (ie. less defined) bodies aren't necessarily a turn-off to me but there would have to be some general level of health and fitness. Heights have ranged - anything from 5'9 and up past 6".
Leftover from the weekend - NCLA's West Hollywood It Girl - it's a cherry fuchsia micro-glitter that I layered over a similar cream shade for a subtle-bling effect.

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Nail polish of all kinds feels weird on my nails, I've tried all different kinds but I always wind up removing it after 5 minutes because it irritates my nails, makes my fingertips feel heavy and dry. Guess me and nail polish just weren't meant to get along.


You might want to try Inglot Nail Polish - it is the only 'breathable' nail polish on the market. Apparently it's been big in the muslim community because of the breathable factor - previously, prayers and religion forbid muslim women from wearing nailpolish because water during pre-prayer hand washing has to make contact with the nails. With this polish, they did research and tests and found that it's breathable formula does allow this whereas traditional nailpolish does not. Might be worth checking into if typical polishes irritate or don't feel comfortable on the nail. If you still want colour - this is probably the 'healthiest' stuff to put on the nails because the nails 'breathe' through it. I haven't tried it, but it's an interesting concept.

http://inglotcosmetics.com/

Inglot began about four years ago to develop the formula for the breathable enamel, which uses a polymer similar to that in the newest generation of contact lenses. Inglot said the chemical formula is 'tricky' and 'quite expensive' to produce, and that the profit margin on O2M is not high. However, he said he was determined to develop a breathable polish knowing that consumers are ever more focused on health and expecting them to welcome a varnish that would let the nail breathe.

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You need to get some hobbies - that's really the only way to meet people naturally.

Or why not try a Contiki Tour through Europe, South America or Oz (Australia that is, not related to the Wizard). You'll be with a group that don't know anyone else anyway - and it'll form a bond as you travel/party etc. I think you just need to shake things up and explore life and who you are. It'll be good for you. Some world travel on the cheap, backpackers, some adventure. You'll make new friends and have some fun.
Technically all three people are at fault in this hypothetical.

1. The 'buddy' for talking shit about a mutual (supposed) friend to the degree that the person doesn't want to get called out on it (ie. it's kind of two-faced and lacks loyalty if it's someone they consider a friend).

2. The 'female friend' for blabbing a private conversation to someone else, thereby betraying a confidence - although unfortunately this particular confidence sounds like it was shady anyway, so loyalties seem kind of weak with this whole group as it is.

3. The 'new girlfriend' for issuing an ultimatum in a friendship that shouldn't involve her, thereby acting like a total control freak.


But... based on the final question - I would say no - I'm against ultimatums. People should make up their own minds. A relationship isn't ownership (well.. unless they're into BDSM, I guess).
No issues with me, as long as they're not the super grungy "I don't give a fuck about my life" kind.

I actually think they look good on a lot of people though for downtime. Casual, sporty etc. Nobody is dressed to impress 24/7.
I guess trying them on in the shop since there's more selection to pick from and you can try on things you probably would never end up buying or maybe don't want to spend the money on. It's more fun (for me) if someone else is there like a BF or a GF. My (platonic) female friends and I go shopping all the time and have ended up trying on things like lingerie, bikinis, sexy stuff in the changerooms and getting advice or opinions from each other (or even from a female salesperson). I don't really see changing or getting naked in front of another girl as a sexual thing unless that vibe is there already.
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How strange that a site like this , (I would have thought) would be about tolerance to other peoples interests etc. a site where , reluctance, BDSM and even supernatural are accepted but mention of lingerie fetish brings out, well I'm not sure what, certainly not any sort of acceptance more the opposite.

Its obvious that all sorts of people read these forums and there is a rumour that hundreds of jobs are to be lost in businesses such as Ann Summers, Knicker Box, Agent Provocateur even Marks and Spencer, as the sales of sexy underwear is about to crash, however plain white bras and Granny knickers will continue.

I notice that the aussie female ,even after saying that she wouldn't waste her fucking time on me, had to join in once again.

Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
Mods I'm out of here ban me if you wish I dont fucking well care any more.


Hey Newsletter - hope you change your mind and stick around. I honestly think that some people got their backs up because in your original thread in the other section, it stirs up that sentiment that women are presumed to be giving sexual signals while engaging in completely innocent activities. Even though your question may have been totally casual or just a thought, for a woman that has been perved on before or objectified, it can trigger that kind of reaction. If this had been your original Q without the attachment to the other thread, I think you would have had far more 'yes' answers. There's plenty of guys that enjoy lingerie or clothing fetishes or enjoy masturbating with them or even wearing them. You're not out of place here. I don't think it's an 'all-guys' have this fetish thing though. Most guys are excited at the idea of seeing a woman in lingerie, but probably not all are turned on by the actual undergarments themselves. Some are though - so it becomes a fetish. I don't think anyone would say there's anything wrong with that - as long as it's understood that a casual display like a laundry line isn't out of the norm for women because we assume most people just see it as clothes. Hope that helps and you aren't totally dissuaded by the forums. Many threads have their ups and downs as discussion is generated - it's just par for the course on the internet. smile
It would suck to go through life getting a woody every time you see women's underwear and bras. Walking through the mall or a department store must be challenging.

If someone has a 'fetish' that intense about just the visual of a garment of clothing hanging on a line, then it's important to remember that not everyone is aware of this or is provoking it on purpose. It's like a guy with a shoe fetish thinking a woman is flirting with her neighbour because she left her sandals on the back porch one night in plain view of his window.

A guy might be titillated by knowing what kind of panties his neighbour wears but it's important not to assign meaning to it beyond that. She's not doing it on purpose. It's her private residence and property - she can hang up her laundry wearing a string bikini - that, in and of itself, doesn't mean anything.
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I'm so deleting this forum.


Sorry, Wolf - this was threadjacked all over the place

Getting back to the OP's question - I have the solution for your problem: http://cougarlife.com

Sign up and find yourself a cougar in your area! They're out there, so online might be the easiest way if you're not sure how to go about mixing with them and hooking things up.
I believe the basic definition is when a wife/GF fucks another guy(s) while her man is forced to watch or hear about it later and is, in a way, helpless to control or influence the situation. It's kind of like cheating but in front of your maybe reluctant s.o. - even though technically to be in this kind of situation, there is mutual consent between the couple and the husband/BF is usually aroused as well, watching his wife/GF satisfy herself with these other guys, all the while not directly participating in the action himself.

From there - it can take on more extreme elements like BDSM, humiliation, feminization, impregnation etc. but they aren't core to the basic definition.

That's always been my interpretation of it anyway.

As for a separate category - sure, if there's demand for it - why not.
Get your terms straight, people!

From Urban Dictionary:

Cougar
An older woman who frequents clubs in order to score with a a much younger, energetic, willing-to-do-anything male.. The cougar can be anyone from an overly surgically altered wind tunnel victim, to an absolute sad and bloated old horn-meister, to a real hottie or milf. Cougars are gaining in popularity -- particularly the true hotties -- as young men find not only a sexual high, but many times a chick with her shit together.

Puma
An attractive woman in her late 20s or early 30s. She is a pre-cougar.

Panther <--- this one is tricky - lots of definitions!
1. A female who likes much older men.
2. A woman in her thirties who likes younger men.
3. An older woman who likes younger women.
4. When a gay man hits on or is interested in younger gay guys.
5. An older black woman who is sexy. A busty black milf.

Jaguar
In the lexicon of older women seeking younger men, a jaguar is 50 and over, where the cougar is in their 40s, and the puma under 40. Jaguars tend to be financially stable and are only looking for sex from their 20 something prey.

Sabretooth Tiger
A really ancient cougar who tries to pick up really young guys

Mountain Lion
A mountain lion is similar to a cougar, only it refers to an UN-attractive older woman seeking younger men. The only difference between the terms mountain lion and cougar are that cougars are usually somewhat attractive, and mountain lions are usually quite ugly. The mountain lion's natural habitat is at bars.

Bobcat
Bobcat- a cougar that doesn't really want to do anything but makeout and second base; c*cktease cougar; Resembles a wild cat but has little to no wild blood; Often times a married woman that acts unmarried for isolated incidents but in the end stays faithful for the most part.

Wildcat
aka C.I.T. (Cougar in Training.) A young woman generally between the ages of 25 - 35, who is on the path to cougar-hood. They often exhibit many of the same traits as cougars, but are generally distinguished by a lesser need to seek out prey.

Cheetah
1. Male version of a Cougar.
2. A married man who cheats on his wife, with one or more women of questionable repute.

Manther
The male version of a cougar; an older man who preys on younger women.

Cougar Hawk
Young man who is typically rejected by women his own age and is extra courteous and well mannered when attempting to bag a cougar.

Cub
Cub is a name of young guy who likes to date older women or bang em.

Silverback
This term is derived from the actual description of an older male gorilla. A Silverback in the slang sense is a much older wealthy man who hits on or dates much younger women.
If you hate the process of glitter removal with scrubbing or acetone soaking, here's a cool DIY base-coat that everyone seems to be raving about.

Basically the polish company Essence started selling a peel-off base coat for glitter polish and some clever nail bloggers realized that the ingredients were the same as regular white craft glue.

Basically all you need is some school glue (like Elmers) and an empty polish bottle. Use it as a basecoat and then a few days later, the whole thing just peels off with no damage to the nail. Great for people who want to wear some glitter for a night or a couple of days without committing to the clean-up and removal.

Here's a tutorial with the details:

Fact - I sometimes end up with nipples that will poke through a thinner sweater, or t-shirt. This is because I actually prefer unpadded (sheer) bras. If/when it does happen - it has zero to do with the situation or me being turned on or trying to get a guy's attention. It just happens. It's not a signal nor something I'm trying to do on purpose.

As Trinket said, unless this woman is really old-school she's probably just hanging her laundry and not thinking much about it. I wouldn't really assume someone is going to get a hard on by seeing fabric blowing in the breeze or something resting on top of a basket of laundry at a public laundromat. It's just not something that would cross my mind as something I need to 'hide' or be overly discreet about - especially when the woman is hanging them in her own private backyard.
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In the case of someone mature and objective, I think love and pragmatism will be linked anyway. If the qualities you mentionned are perceived pragmatically (good provider, security, educated, attractive, etc) love would most probably be triggered too, according to how much or how well these qualities are met.


Not for all people though. We all see (or experience) cases where someone claims they are madly in love with someone that is just not good for them. Right now I have a friend, for example, that has yanked up her life and moved to a different city to be with a BF that is wishy-washy about what he wants and treats her poorly and her family can't stand him and her friends think he's bad news, but she is dead-set on pursuing the relationship because "I am in love and you guys just don't understand! He's a good guy - you're just not seeing it in the same way I do." In the meantime, she could have any guy she wants and during their last break up there was a much better (and cuter!) guy around that had a real job and was really into her and seemed solid... but no, she rejected him to chase after this other dumbass. Clearly she's following her heart over her head.

Now - this is obviously one of the bad examples. I know these people aren't taking a 'mature and healthy' approach and may just crave that high that comes with complicated love, but stuff like this is actually quite common with a lot of people. I've experienced it myself - investing in a guy that is logically a bad choice because I thought I was in love and the relationship was 'exciting' when it was good.

Really for the poll I've lumped in 'follow your heart over your head' as encompassing both the positive and the negative because it's really just based on the outlook of the person at the time they make that commitment.

And yes, I've known plenty that have made the commitment based on purely pragmatic choices. Not that they dislike the guy - but it's not that red-hot manic love thing you get with some couples. My friends have just said that it's the 'smarter' approach and that the intensity fades anyway so it's better to be more logical than emotional. They'd rather have the guy who can provide them with security and be a good future dad rather than the guy that makes their heart skip a beat or gets their panties wet when he walks into a room.

The ideal will always be to have both, but most people will have a tendency to put more weight of importance onto one or the other.
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although not the reason i married her, somehow i managed to fall in love with a woman who has all the qualities. as for her, well, she kind of got the short end of the stick, but for some reason, she likes me anyways. smile


Yeah, I mean when you do really fall madly in love, they probably will have those traits (hopefully). But sometimes you find that person that looks really good on paper but it's just missing that 'chemistry' or 'spark'. I've had this happen in the past and friends think I'm nuts for passing certain guys up because they hit all the typical checklists of being a great guy... and yet, sometimes something is missing.

As far as "following the heart" goes, it's not like I have a great track record though - so sometimes I debate who's right and who's wrong. I often preach to friends that if it's not right, it's not right, no matter how perfect the other person is on paper - but then I start thinking - maybe this whole 'manic love' thing is destined to burn out faster (or just as fast) anyway. Except then - when logic sets in you might be even worse off if you discounted the important things because of the whole 'love is blind' thing.

And Coco - I agree - I don't really use the term soulmate and not sure I believe in the concept either. For this poll it was just the easiest way to sum up a kind of love that is more intense and feeling rather than thinking and logical.
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I'm very surprised No 5 is way out in front. It would be interesting to see a poll like this, but have an average age group for each scenario. I voted for No 8 and divorced earlier this year at 29. I was married for 5 years.


It actually surprised me too!


I put up the poll mainly because I'm curious about the reasons people make commitments and if there's any kind of correlation to future happiness or longevity.

I have this argument with friends all the time - those that think it's more pragmatic to follow your head and pick a good mate based on various criteria and others that feel like unless their whole heart is into it and they're truly madly in love, they're not interested.

Quite often I find the latter types often end up going through tumultuous relationships over and over again with lots of highs and lows while those that picked pragmatically (ie. good provider, security, educated, attractive, good timing, family likes them etc) often seem bored eventually and are prone to affairs.

Both types (the 'follow your head' vs the 'follow your heart' crowd) always argue that the other has it all wrong when it comes to long-term commitment. On occasion I'll see the 'pick with your heart' person switch things up because they're fed up and just want to settle down so they'll take a different approach. I've always wondered how easy it would be to do that when you're not really programmed with that mindset initially.

The poll is a little flawed though, as others have said, because time does change which one you might pick. But it still gives a little insight and paints an interesting picture. Thanks to those that have answered! smile