The conservatives fucking us again in the name of corporate profits. Testicular microplastics for all.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chevron-regulations-environment-4ae73d5a79cabadff4da8f7e16669929

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1806786821311082854

People already made up their minds. No matter what Biden does normal people know Trump shouldn't be president. Only a bit over half of the people that watched the last debate tuned in this time. More people watched Inside Out 2.

They're all busy getting drive-thru coffee, filling up their SUVs, eating steaks, going to the gym, buying LEGO, working and watching TV shows in this "third world" country of ours.

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I’m surprised you don’t get along better with Trump people. You like living in a fantasy removed from reality as well.

So you don't know... Well thank you for your contribution Rowan.

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Don’t worry. I expect other people can read the headlines even if you can’t. And ‘populous’ isn’t a different party unless you consider giving people what they want to be so so outside of the Democrats position it would constitute a different party.

Rowan doesn’t know which democrats are saying that. Just “some people are saying”.

Rowan thinks this debate will be the thing people remember months from now lol. He’s already forgotten everything Trump did but he expects people to remember Biden fucking up a debate where nothing new was learned. Biden Isn’t a great speaker and Trump is a pathological liar. Wow such new revelations.

It’s not going to change a thing. The debates never change people’s minds. It’s entertainment.

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The only thing more uncomfortable than Biden's debate performance is watching the rank-and-file Democrats scrambling to defend him. This was really a worst case scenario for the Democrats.

Some are actively and publicly discussing finding a new candidate, which would be unprecedented at this point. The process would involve Biden willingly vacating the nomination and the Democrat higher-ups hand-selecting a new candidate which is going to be terrible optics. Might be a better shot than riding this train into a wall though. Hard to say at this point. Would likely be Harris, though her image may have been tainted by Biden's.

Going for a populous candidate last minute seems like the only legitimate path to victory but I don't know who could salvage it among the Democratic party.

Rowan thinks democrats should be like yeah, fuck it, were switching parties and supporting Trump because the debate.

Also doesn't say which democrats are publicly discussing finding a new candidate.

Biden had his Grape Nuts and Four Loko this morning.

Americans right now

Well that was a pathetic display by Biden and a bunch of lies and bullshit from Trump.

Lol what a joke.

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Concerning Trump and tonight's debate, do you think he will...

a) Complete the entire debate.
b) Not show up at all.
c) Throw a fit and walk off the stage prematurely.

a) He'll complete the debate. Trump will say a lot of stupid shit while Biden will just say the same ol' same ol'.

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Que?

Don't worry, they fucked it.

The conservatives are starting to figure it out...

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1804109152983109893

Biden's America

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Funny, how it seems possible to automatically register folks for selective service, but not for voting. And yet the US still claims to be the guiding beacon of democracy.

The Netherlands better come through against France, Noll. Last game on my parley.

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Jack...

Don’t jack me offer an answer

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You’re trolling way too close to the sun right now, dude.

Unfortunately, many folks here are too keen to believe you’re a lowlife piece of shit to ever acknowledge that you’re satirically highlighting xenophobic agendas right now.

What is the iron dome for though? I’m not trolling. It’s a catch 22.

I mean Finland and South Korea have conscription. Finland is a peaceful nation. Is it xenophobic to say they do that because they share a border with Russia?

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I'm afraid that makes them no outlier in American politics.

I meant like the numbers

What y’all fail to mention is that America didn’t just give Israel weapons to kill Palestinians. They gave Israel weapons so that the Muslim world wouldn’t genocide the Israelis. I mean the Palestinians have done pretty bad things too, just like Israel. If we leave Israel to fend for itself and the Muslim world decides to invade them and kill them all then what? Whose fault is that? Or would we blame whoever the Muslim world got their weapons from?

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If US Congress works anything like Dutch Parliament then voting 3rd party for Congress would make perfect sense, as small parties can have a decisive vote, when majorities are needed.

But the system to elect POTUS is just too fucked up, and the risk of full-on fascism too big, to vote 3rd party in that context I'd say.

You have serious third parties though. We have the Green Party… I think legalizing weed is one of their main issues. A little late.. but they don’t have serious candidates for anything.

What Rowan’s goal is that in a broken home, the kids go to the worst parent, so the kids suffer enough that someone will notice and take them away. Hopefully before they turn 18.

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Just you wait. This party's gonna save us all.

When has unwavering faith in a political party ever steered us wrong as a nation?

They have coloring books in their merch store.

Look at the leading 3rd party's webpage.

https://www.gp.org

Just try to Imagine these guys coming in and doing anything. They don't even have a candidate yet. lol

Imagine thinking the green party

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Firstly, the use of “protest voting” is indicative of your bias. Voting for whoever you want is a right of democracy. Either that’s sacrosanct or not, this isn’t a buffet where you can pick the parts you want and ignore the rest. While this is an extremely emotive topic, it’s alarming to me how quickly people want to silence dissenters. It’s giving authoritarian in disguise.

Secondly, I wasn’t advocating that a vote for a third party would assist - actually I only mentioned how ideological tensions are bad for pulling voters.

But since you asked, long term this would redistribute power to additional parties who would in turn be a closer representation of their constituents beliefs and would enact them. This would also remove the dichotomy of your voting pool and create a more moderate democracy based on multiple views rather than two opposing ones.

The failure of the left to create a truly compelling opposition is on them, not on people who notice it.

So basically it wouldn’t help. It wouldn’t do anything besides signal to the democrats that they need to go more left to get the vote from far left progressives. So a protest. A protest vote.

Do you know how many members of the Green Party are in office now? Do you know what party progressives like AOC and Bernie Sanders are a part of? Voting in more and more AOCs is what’s effective… Not taking power from them.

I mean how long a timeline are we looking at? In order for a third party to do anything they have to win three branches of the government. That’s not going to happen. And if it does you have to believe that they wouldn’t be corrupt at all which if you look at the green party’s history, is not the case.

It’s easy to be idealist and pseudo-revolutionary online about voting for a third party when you’re not the one that would have to live through 4 years of a Trump presidency. An orange pig who has hinted at wanting to be a dictator, been caught mishandling my nations secrets, mishandling the pandemic, fanning the flames of racism, increasing the national dept more than anyone before him, embarrassing the United States every time he opens his mouth, been found to be a , gassed American citizens to clear the way for a photo-op, freed terrorist leaders, attempted a coup and on and on.

I’m sorry but this is like deciding to go on a diet while stranded in the desert with only junk food to survive. We need to find our way out of the desert (end the maga movement) then go on a diet (vote for more progressives). Vote in enough progressives to do to the Democratic Party what the MAGA movement did to the Republican Party.

This whole third party vote now to help Trump win and cement the idea that being MAGA stupid wins, is dangerous.

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I believe we had reached the "I'm voting third party so the suffering of others will teach the Democrats a lesson when the Republicans win" part of the conversation before we all got sidetracked.

That’s the part that I find the most crazy.

Like they expect Trump winning will make Palestine hold out for 5 years while the Green Party wins the presidency, senate and house because people will be THAT mad at Trump?

House passes military bill automatically registering men 18-26 for draft.

House is Republican controlled by the way.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-passes-defense-bill-automatically-registering-men-draft