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Mazza
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I actually don't know. I'd be very interested to find out, too.
I wasn't poo-pooing it, that sort of ironically illustrates how easy it is to mis-write or misinterpret what someone has said, doesn't it?
I think it's interesting too but I still don't believe it's accurate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Bible
By the way, neither of those are links dismissing anything - they're just about its history
Mazztastic
Quote by clum
I just mean that the story of Jesus' life being passed down orally doesn't necessarily make it any less reliable.
Some believe it to be a true and accurate account, which would mean Jesus really did walk on water—he must have told someone how it feels. Why was THAT never orally transmitted?
I disagree. Things are rarely passed on verbatim. People add details, forget details, omit the things they see as unimportant or irrelevant to them, accentuate the details they like or see as relevant. Did you ever play Chinese Whispers at school? Even a simple phrase can be completely different by the time it gets to the last person.
Things are lost and added in the translation and interpretation of any story or a history. That's a fact. It depends who's telling it. Look at Cinderella and how the original versions differ from the modern ones. Did you know that it was originally a Chinese tale and that in subsequent versions, her stepsisters cut off parts of their feet to fit into her lost shoe? (as her feet had been bound and were tiny as a result?) It's not much like Disney version.
I'm sure the history of World War II (to draw another example at random) varies greatly in its telling. I'm sure that the British version differs to that of the Germans or the Japanese, or Italians, or French, or American, or Polish, or Jewish - you know?
I'm just saying that I don't think that the bible (and even that varies depending on which version or edition you read) is a 100% accurate retelling of exactly what happened all those years ago. Have you read 1984 by George Orwell?
As a matter of interest, were other things described in that way? The feelings? I mean, was the whole walking on water thing omitted while he included his feelings of elation at raising someone from the dead, or having his feet washed and so on?
Mazztastic
Quote by clum
Actually, around the time that Jesus is supposed to have lived, it was very common for the most important information to be transmitted orally rather than written down.
I'm not saying that's a reason to take everything written in the bible at face value, by the way, only that the way it came into being was fairly standard practice.
I know, that was what I meant in my first post...
Quote by mazza
I mean, given that there was no internet or newspapers or TV back then and that the majority of people were most likely poorly educated, I imagine that a story about a guy walking on water was just a huge exaggeration so that people would remember the story and talk about it to their friends, pass it on, spread the word... Just like we do with Facebook nowadays. If he "just" gave a great speech, the buzz would die down pretty quick, right? But to have walked on water, well, that's gonna be on everyone's lips for ages...
Mazztastic
Quote by Haineko
It's not allegory. Jesus actually walked on water in the book of John. Peter did for a little while as well before he starts to sink.
as to what it felt like John never tells us because Jesus never tells his Apostles. It doesn't come up because In thr grand scheme of the Gospel what the water felt like under his feet has no baring on salvation.
That's based on the assumption that the bible is true and accurate? Even though it was passed on for many years by word of mouth before being written and interpreted by many different people?
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Mazztastic
I was assumed it was just allegory (is that the right word?)
I mean, given that there was no internet or newspapers or TV back then and that the majority of people were most likely poorly educated, I imagine that a story about a guy walking on water was just a huge exaggeration so that people would remember the story and talk about it to their friends, pass it on, spread the word... Just like we do with Facebook nowadays. If he "just" gave a great speech, the buzz would die down pretty quick, right? But to have walked on water, well, that's gonna be on everyone's lips for ages... Propaganda?
One of my kids asked me if I believed in Jesus and that he performed miracles.
I told her that as far as I knew, he was a real person who existed at one point and that I thought he sounded like a decent guy with some good ideas.
She said did I think he'd really done the thing with the loaves and fishes. I said that I thought it was more likely that he'd just gotten everyone who'd had the foresight to bring supplies with them, to share their food that day and that in itself probably seemed like a miracle (and in that sense, it may well have been)
Most likely, his speech that day was so moving and rousing that someone probably suggested he could have walked on water if he'd wanted... and it stuck? I dunno...
I don't "do" the whole religion thing.
Anyway, in answer to Clum, I don't think he did actually walk on water but I imagine that it would feel wet and soft on one's feet, if one could... Unless it was frozen (and of course you really could walk on that) which would obviously feel hard and cold - although I've never walked barefoot on ice, so I'm speculating...
I mean, given that there was no internet or newspapers or TV back then and that the majority of people were most likely poorly educated, I imagine that a story about a guy walking on water was just a huge exaggeration so that people would remember the story and talk about it to their friends, pass it on, spread the word... Just like we do with Facebook nowadays. If he "just" gave a great speech, the buzz would die down pretty quick, right? But to have walked on water, well, that's gonna be on everyone's lips for ages... Propaganda?
One of my kids asked me if I believed in Jesus and that he performed miracles.
I told her that as far as I knew, he was a real person who existed at one point and that I thought he sounded like a decent guy with some good ideas.
She said did I think he'd really done the thing with the loaves and fishes. I said that I thought it was more likely that he'd just gotten everyone who'd had the foresight to bring supplies with them, to share their food that day and that in itself probably seemed like a miracle (and in that sense, it may well have been)
Most likely, his speech that day was so moving and rousing that someone probably suggested he could have walked on water if he'd wanted... and it stuck? I dunno...
I don't "do" the whole religion thing.
Anyway, in answer to Clum, I don't think he did actually walk on water but I imagine that it would feel wet and soft on one's feet, if one could... Unless it was frozen (and of course you really could walk on that) which would obviously feel hard and cold - although I've never walked barefoot on ice, so I'm speculating...
Mazztastic
I've been suffering from it myself - I picked up some older stuff I'd been working on a while ago and just laboured and edited until I finally had something...
Even if it's not hugh quality, I'll try and write something because I figure it's easier to work and edit words that are actually there, even if they're not great, then move on from that, if that makes sense?
Sometimes just taking a break and removing the pressure to write can help and I've had a lot of real life stuff to deal with too, which didn't help...
Hopefully I'm back and writing for a while now though...
Even if it's not hugh quality, I'll try and write something because I figure it's easier to work and edit words that are actually there, even if they're not great, then move on from that, if that makes sense?
Sometimes just taking a break and removing the pressure to write can help and I've had a lot of real life stuff to deal with too, which didn't help...
Hopefully I'm back and writing for a while now though...
Mazztastic
I saw this in the Metro newspaper today and I thought it was very Lush...
There was more we should have been taught, aside from how many days our menstrual cycle lasted and how to put a condom on a banana…
1. Men will always be obsessed with your bum hole.
2. 96% of the times you have sex will be initiated by a man pushing his hard-on into your back while you try to sleep.
3. People don’t actually eat food off each others’ naked bodies in real life. Not unless they want Nutella mingling with their fallopian tubes.
4. Nor do people really ever use flavoured condoms, especially not for penetrative sex. Sticky, blueberry-flavoured thighs anyone?
5. Giving oral sex will make you gag and think you’re about to throw up approximately 67,542 times throughout your entire life.
6. Despite growing older and accepting it’s a part of adult life, watching a sex scene on TV with your parents will never get easier.
7. You won’t fall asleep gracefully the minute sex is over. First, you’ll waddle to the toilet to clean up – and then maybe you’ll check Twitter.
8. Fanny farts are a thing. End of.
9. Sex anywhere aside from a bed is pretty uncomfortable and difficult. You’ll get bruises, it’ll hurt but you’ll pretend to love every second of it.
10. The majority of you (70%) won’t EVER be able to orgasm through penetrative sex on its own. True story.
11. The contraceptive pill will probably turn you into a hormonal beast.
12. But you’ll be so terrified by all other types of long-term contraception you’ll stick with it anyway. You want to put WHAT up there for HOW many years?!
13. Every time you have an STD test you’ll be 102% sure you have HIV, or at least a spot of Chlamydia.
14. You’ll also Google ‘pregnancy symptoms’ approximately seven times a month. If you’re not pregnant than WHY have you been eating so much bread?!
15. You’ll buy enough of Tesco’s cheapest pregnancy tests over the course of your lifetime to stock a village pharmacy.
16. You will pretty much definitely do a poo during childbirth (soz).
17. And it’s also possible to rip from your vagina to your bum hole when the baby comes out.
18. Cystitis will be a constant battle and will include a lot of wees that only produce a teaspoon of urine. Good.
19. Boys will want to ejaculate in places that aren’t your vagina.
20. And when said semen lands on your skin, you’ll be surprised at how smooth and silky it makes it.
21. You’ll always be slightly scared that if you ever got famous, the boyfriend you had at 15 will circulate topless photos of you.
22. People can say sex burns 200 calories an hour as many times as they want, it will NOT give you Cheryl Cole’s body.
23. Most of the times you have sex you’ll be wearing a nude T-shirt bra and greying pants from Primark, rather than sexy lingerie from Victoria’s Secret, and you won’t even be ashamed.
24. You WILL have sexual partners that you’ll look back on and a tiny bit of sick will start to rise in your throat. It’s OK, it happens to all of us.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/30/24-horrible-truths-about-sex-we-wish-someone-had-taught-us-in-sex-education-4777860/
You might want to add more horrible truths of your own underneath... I'm sure there are plenty!!
There was more we should have been taught, aside from how many days our menstrual cycle lasted and how to put a condom on a banana…
1. Men will always be obsessed with your bum hole.
2. 96% of the times you have sex will be initiated by a man pushing his hard-on into your back while you try to sleep.
3. People don’t actually eat food off each others’ naked bodies in real life. Not unless they want Nutella mingling with their fallopian tubes.
4. Nor do people really ever use flavoured condoms, especially not for penetrative sex. Sticky, blueberry-flavoured thighs anyone?
5. Giving oral sex will make you gag and think you’re about to throw up approximately 67,542 times throughout your entire life.
6. Despite growing older and accepting it’s a part of adult life, watching a sex scene on TV with your parents will never get easier.
7. You won’t fall asleep gracefully the minute sex is over. First, you’ll waddle to the toilet to clean up – and then maybe you’ll check Twitter.
8. Fanny farts are a thing. End of.
9. Sex anywhere aside from a bed is pretty uncomfortable and difficult. You’ll get bruises, it’ll hurt but you’ll pretend to love every second of it.
10. The majority of you (70%) won’t EVER be able to orgasm through penetrative sex on its own. True story.
11. The contraceptive pill will probably turn you into a hormonal beast.
12. But you’ll be so terrified by all other types of long-term contraception you’ll stick with it anyway. You want to put WHAT up there for HOW many years?!
13. Every time you have an STD test you’ll be 102% sure you have HIV, or at least a spot of Chlamydia.
14. You’ll also Google ‘pregnancy symptoms’ approximately seven times a month. If you’re not pregnant than WHY have you been eating so much bread?!
15. You’ll buy enough of Tesco’s cheapest pregnancy tests over the course of your lifetime to stock a village pharmacy.
16. You will pretty much definitely do a poo during childbirth (soz).
17. And it’s also possible to rip from your vagina to your bum hole when the baby comes out.
18. Cystitis will be a constant battle and will include a lot of wees that only produce a teaspoon of urine. Good.
19. Boys will want to ejaculate in places that aren’t your vagina.
20. And when said semen lands on your skin, you’ll be surprised at how smooth and silky it makes it.
21. You’ll always be slightly scared that if you ever got famous, the boyfriend you had at 15 will circulate topless photos of you.
22. People can say sex burns 200 calories an hour as many times as they want, it will NOT give you Cheryl Cole’s body.
23. Most of the times you have sex you’ll be wearing a nude T-shirt bra and greying pants from Primark, rather than sexy lingerie from Victoria’s Secret, and you won’t even be ashamed.
24. You WILL have sexual partners that you’ll look back on and a tiny bit of sick will start to rise in your throat. It’s OK, it happens to all of us.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/30/24-horrible-truths-about-sex-we-wish-someone-had-taught-us-in-sex-education-4777860/
You might want to add more horrible truths of your own underneath... I'm sure there are plenty!!
Mazztastic
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I think it's a great idea. I'm sure it's a fantasy of many people. And as it would be "Office Sex" so there would be more interesting plots about work and sex. I have already started thinking about some big ideas for a series of stories based on this category, so please, add this new category.
It's already there
