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Marx Sister
Quote by RejectReality
There's always a hierarchy, if you want to target the right readers.
Rule #1 is Lush specific. As said, any close-blood relations having relations goes into I.F.
Rule #2 is the rule of Most Squick. If there are two or more dominant themes, go with the category that's most likely to make other readers cringe. The people in the edgier category aren't going to mind the more vanilla aspects, so long as they get their kink. The people in mainstream categories may run screaming the moment they come across watersports, bondage, etc.
Rule #3 is the rule of NIMBY. People looking for Gay Male or Lesbian stories don't want to read hetero couplings, and may even be squicked by it. The reverse also holds true — though more or less only for GM. You can get away with girl-girl most anywhere, but two guys getting it on is not going to go over well unless it's in a category where it's reasonably expected. Thanks to the bisexual category, there's a home for those crossovers where hetero and same sex couplings can happily mingle.
Rule #4 is the rule of Many Eyes. If there are two equal, relatively vanilla themes, go with the one that generates the most traffic. Use your Columbo-like research skills to see which category garners the most votes and comments overall.
This post is well reasoned. I think maybe I am a little more lax with the third one than I maybe should be, but this is really nicely laid out for anybody who doesn't think about their demographics. Thanks.
Marx Sister
Thanks, Liz. I actually have a related question, if you have the time. With all the new categories being added (and some of the debate forming around certain ones), are there other topics and content which need to be herded into their own sections. For example, would something that includes an intelligent monster/mythological creature have to go in the monster sex category, if there were other valid options? Or, the story that DonnaDreams is talking about - would it need to go into the mind control if it was not related?
I am just curious where we are drawing these sorts of lines anymore, and if there is a hierarchy of categories we need to be aware of. Thanks for your thoughts as always!
I am just curious where we are drawing these sorts of lines anymore, and if there is a hierarchy of categories we need to be aware of. Thanks for your thoughts as always!
Marx Sister
Buz,
I don't disagree with what you've here, but I can also see adele's point, at least as far as clarity goes. The way the section's blurb is written, the scope of possible crossover between mind control and outright non-consent is a fairly wide spectrum of gray here, though one which I know the mods here won't have so hard a time guarding against. Still, I would say that the definition of the category could be a little clearer; specifically I think it could use a point of clarification regarding the premise of the character who is being controlled needing some sort of innate desire for the acts they are performing, in order for a story to meet the criteria of the category.
This very line could be reworded slightly and integrated into the category's description. Perhaps it could also include something likening the subject to an extension of the dominant-submissive dynamic.
As a final point, I'm not sure if I agree that the issuing and subsequent revocation of the omnium badge is a good analogy of life, but I certainly agree with the sentiment you're expressing here.
Finally, thanks for taking the time to answer people's questions about stuff like this, and generally being an awesome moderator.
Adele,
I didn't see an announcement either, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Even if there was no announcement, what does that have to do your complaints about the category? It's obviously been discussed by the mods, the admin, and Nicola, so that ship has clearly sailed. As I understand it, Gav has added a feature where you can hide certain categories, if you are bothered by them. Lush has some of the strictest terms of use of any major erotic fiction site, yet whenever they are relaxed even a tiny bit, it causes controversy. I'm curious, is this more about the category, or the omnium badge? There is no judgment attached to that question, I really am just curious.
I don't disagree with what you've here, but I can also see adele's point, at least as far as clarity goes. The way the section's blurb is written, the scope of possible crossover between mind control and outright non-consent is a fairly wide spectrum of gray here, though one which I know the mods here won't have so hard a time guarding against. Still, I would say that the definition of the category could be a little clearer; specifically I think it could use a point of clarification regarding the premise of the character who is being controlled needing some sort of innate desire for the acts they are performing, in order for a story to meet the criteria of the category.
Quote by Buz
There can be a host of reasons someone suppresses their desires such as peer pressure, religion, social standing, corporate hierarchy, etc. But deep inside those are things that they could do, so mind control brings that to the service.
This very line could be reworded slightly and integrated into the category's description. Perhaps it could also include something likening the subject to an extension of the dominant-submissive dynamic.
Quote by Buz
If someone desires an Omnium Badge enough to force themselves to write in all categories, even if they don't like them, then they've earned the Badge, at least until we add another category. Sorry, that's just how it is. It's actually a pretty good representation of how real life works.
As a final point, I'm not sure if I agree that the issuing and subsequent revocation of the omnium badge is a good analogy of life, but I certainly agree with the sentiment you're expressing here.
Finally, thanks for taking the time to answer people's questions about stuff like this, and generally being an awesome moderator.
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Adele,
Quote by adele
I don't see any announcement about this anywhere, and then suddenly there it is. Why even bother having an Omnium badge if the site is going to keep randomly adding categories and then taking it away from those that have earned it?
I didn't see an announcement either, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Even if there was no announcement, what does that have to do your complaints about the category? It's obviously been discussed by the mods, the admin, and Nicola, so that ship has clearly sailed. As I understand it, Gav has added a feature where you can hide certain categories, if you are bothered by them. Lush has some of the strictest terms of use of any major erotic fiction site, yet whenever they are relaxed even a tiny bit, it causes controversy. I'm curious, is this more about the category, or the omnium badge? There is no judgment attached to that question, I really am just curious.
