Quote by DanielleX

Biden needs to be replaced quickly. Some of the debate was just really uncomfortable viewing. I don't know how practical it is for the Democrats to replace him? D

Dude had a bad night. It's reported he had a head cold. The last 3.5 years have been 180 degrees better in the opposite direction than the 4 years of Trump which preceded Biden.

He's been delivering in the Presidency aspect for the last 3.5 years. Trump tried to overthrow the government and a valid election the last time he was in power.

Vote for whomever you wish.

Vote for Trump and you'll get the exactly what you want.

Vote for Biden and you'll get exactly what you don't want but will settle for because the other dude is a fucktard magnet of the 3rd order who will sell America out to the highest bidder and that president doesn't give one fuck about you or your family.

In a 'normal year' I would vociferously oppose Rick Wilson... But the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Quote by HornyBill

GQP?

GOP - Grand Old Party

GQP - Grand Qanon Party

No shit, when exactly, was America great. When was that period of time which Trump and his magats want to take us all back to?

Before women could vote? Before minorities could vote? When..?

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-trump-penzeys/

https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/

Why did Anthony Kennedy resign from the Supreme Court in 2018 at the age of 82, instead of holding on to that revered position for as long as he could - like Ginsburg succeeded in doing?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/07/12/untangling-the-links-between-trump-deutsche-bank-and-justice-kennedys-son/

Quote by RowanThorn

Deliberately misreporting earned foreign income, over reporting charitable donations, and under the table bonus payments received. It’s actually all available publicly at this point.

I fail to note actual nepotism or insider trading in any of this.

Insider trading is what made Nancy Pelosi famous. If you want to point out the nepotism aspect - compare it to the nepotism shown to Jared and Ivanka Kushner by former President Orangutan - then maybe I can believe you.

Quote by Dani

Out of curiosity, is there a reason every time I challenge your devotion to the Democratic party, you immediately jump to assuming my belief system and then make up a shit ton of "counterpoints" on my behalf to which I don't subscribe?

I ask because I've made it abundantly clear that I believe the two-party system is fucked. The Democrats become more right-leaning by the day because they're a self-serving party just like the others. Refusal to hold one's party accountable leads to the shit show that is our current election system. Downplaying the missteps of the party to which you're loyal to point the finger at another is ignorant at best.

I'm honestly baffled at why you feel so threatened every time someone rightfully points out how the Dems have been such a letdown while also acknowledging that no one sane with this country's best interests in mind wants Trump anywhere near American government. I don't need to be convinced of this, as I'm fully aware. But also, the Dems fucking suck. Biden is a shit show, just less so than Trump...for the most part.

Being a better choice than Trump as your main running point is fucking insane.

You're right and I apologize for my hastily written screed which was posted as one long wall of text, instead of being broken up to only include the 1st paragraph and the last sentence of said screed.

I wasn't attempting to jump to assumptions with regard to you. I do not know you at all, anymore than I know Felix or Rowan or anyone else on this website.

I know how you feel about the two party system in America. I used to feel the same way, but which nation in the 'free world' has a better system when it comes to elections?

I cannot help the fact that I'm (assuming again) 30 years older than you and have been politically and socially awake since I was 19 years old and out in the world, beginning to experience - in my face, the horseshit which you have had to endure every day of your life. I grew up, extremely sheltered and privileged and I for sure did not know this until a few years of being exposed to it - every day. I can identify with the term: woke - and it appalls me that others of my generation - who may have been as sheltered as myself - and many who weren't - are offended by that word and what it means today.

I think Bill Clinton won his 1st election because: A plurality of Americans of voting age had grown sour on the Reagan Revolution and the ensuing 4 year administration of former CIA chief George H W Bush. Clinton could talk for hours without use of a teleprompter and make reasonable sense. Quicker on his feet than anyone else in the Republican party and for sure in the Democratic Party (he chose Gore not because Gore was an orator, but because Gore had good ideas but didn't know how to communicate them - and a lot of marginalized people (by the Reagan/Bush years) would vote for a Clinton/Gore ticket instead of Clinton/some other Democrat. Clinton also took several positions which were farther to the right than Reagan or Bush had been for the previous 12 years. He cut them off at the pass by doing so - and sent the Democratic party far to the right of Jimmy Carter/Lyndon Johnson and JFK.

I'm going to stop here before you think I'm lecturing you - I'm not. I don't have the cajone's to even try to do that.

I was elated a few years back when I jumped you in that chat room to 'welcome' you back. Seriously. It's never been my intention to try to start shit with you.

Jack on the other hand...

Quote by Magical_felix

I’m sorry but this is like deciding to go on a diet while stranded in the desert with only junk food to survive. We need to find our way out of the desert (end the maga movement) then go on a diet (vote for more progressives). Vote in enough progressives to do to the Democratic Party what the MAGA movement did to the Republican Party.

This whole third party vote now to help Trump win and cement the idea that being MAGA stupid wins, is dangerous.

I've voted in every election (every 2 years) since 1978. Now you know how old I really am.

The only time (in hindsight) I feel I ever threw away my vote was 2016, when I wrote in: Bernie Sanders. I figured Hillary was going to crush Trump. But I felt Sanders would have crushed Trump - they both were campaigning on popularism and Bernie was far to the left of either Trump or Hillary, supporting actual progressive planks. There were many things I did not care for - concerning Clinton, and her advanced age was the least of those issues. Bernie was older than she was.

I'm not making that mistake again. But yeah, voting for the lesser of two evils is a tough pill to swallow when you're standing inside that tiny voting booth. But I know what a catrastrophe mutliple felon Trump would be if he 'won' a 2nd term. Social Security and Medicare are both standing at Trump's guillotine, along with more future tax cuts for the super wealthy and corporations - which will be picked up by the middle and lower social classes in America. Again.

Just take a peek at the GQP Project 2025. They wish to remake the entire USA to shoehorn into their image of what's great about the new America under their guardianship.

Quote by Dani

This Biden boner shit is weird.

I'll be on your standby for your next "I've been around for ages, and you youngins don't know like I know" rant.

If that's all you gather from skimming my posts concerning Biden vs Trump, you'd be better served ignoring everything that flies off my fingers. I campaigned for Bernie Sanders in 2015-16 until he dropped out of the nomination race. I also supported Bernie in 2020, again, until the Dems shut the door on him.

We can thank Joe Biden for many political catastrophes - such as Clarence Thomas making it onto the Supreme Court - after Biden joined with Republicans to humiliate, ignore and crush Anita Hill's testimony in 1991. You should probably also thank Obama for selecting Biden as his running mate in 2008 - which further elevated the verbal gaff-machine in the Dem party.

There's plenty of blame to go around when it comes to the Israeli/Palestine relationship since 1948. I have never read any positive solutions/suggestions for how Biden/America is supposed to proceed with dealing with the nationalistic warmongers who are large and in charge of the Israeli military and law enforcement. Perhaps America shouldn't have been supporting Israel with billion$ of discounts to purchase state of the art weaponry from American manufacturing profiteers. Trump didn't end any of that during his first term in office, but neither have any US Presidents going back nearly 75 years.

I get that you would feel safer if NATO was completely disbanded and all member nations split apart and Europe was ripe for the picking by Putin's war machine. Trump and Biden are a couple of assholes, they've both made numerous bad decisions over the entirety of their lifetimes. But Biden has never attempted a coup nor acted like a dictator.

For my entire lifetime, there has been at least one major war occurring somewhere in this world. And when there hasn't been one, two or three major wars (Iran vs Iraq, Korea vs NATO, genocide on the African continent in multiple different countries, Central American wars fought by proxy America/Soviet Union, too many wars and skirmishes for me to keep track of. It appears that humans are good at procreation and at killing & maiming one another.

My Biden boner is born of not wanting to see Trump anywhere near the oval office again. But you be you, youngling.

Quote by RowanThorn

People do tend to remember supporting a genocide, yes.

That's exactly what the Trump administration did - to our fellow Americans from the earliest days of Covid 19 beginning to spread until he took his last special treatment to fix him up after his own Covid health struggles. Genocide.

Quote by Hasabrain2

Whatever your own political beliefs. In the hush money case, what do you think the jury will decide? I have intentionally left out hung jury.

Incidentally - that wasn't a Hush Money trial - it was an Election Interference trial (the 2016 Presidential election, in point of fact). Warts like you want to dumb shit down for people. Call the damned thing what it was/is - Trump was trying to subvert yet two more admittedly nasty personal stories about his own behavior from the American voting public. He'd had a 10 month long sexual and emotional affair with Karen McDougal - former Playboy playmate.

He then Stormy Daniels to shoot his load (maybe) in about 20 strokes.

The first AFFAIR lasted for 10 months, the 2nd encounter (which we know about thanks to Catch & Kill by the Nat'l Enquirer) lasted maybe 3 minutes before the obese fuckstick ran out of energy and assaulting stamina and probably farted then rolled his 62 year old - walrus shaped body off the 26 yr old porn star. Both of those dalliances occurred while his former centerfold wife was preggers with his future frankensteinian 3rd male offspring.

Trump - a Republican in the Newt Gingrich mold of Family Values.

Biden will be 81, Trump will be 78...Trump acts like a demented maniac who we damn sure know - creates chaos every other day.

Biden doesn't create controversy or attempt to bend the constitution and normalcy to his own narcissistic needs.

Biden inherited:

The deadly mess of Covid19 which Trump (advocating weird cures and remedies like deworming paste for horses, disinfectants directly into the bloodstream & ultraviolet rays shot into people's orifices) claimed was a nothinburger, when in fact, Covid killed hundreds of thousands of Americans while Trump did NOTHING except babble about stupid remedies and moronic cures.

An 8 dollar increased US deficit - thanks to Trump and his egregious spending on wars (he inherited) and trillions of tax cuts for the wealthy (Trump instigated).

But all people are going to remember is - Israel bludgeoning the Gaza Strip. They won't remember Hamas killing and kidnapping over 1500 Israelis.

Vote for Trump and Trump's own criminal chaos or vote for Biden and Israeli chaos. And Ukraine chaos while Trump wanted to give 1/3rd of Ukraine to his puppet master - Putin.

Vote for Trump or anyone but Biden - and you give your thumbs up to more of this fucking bullshit.

https://thesixthmovie.com/

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/jan-6-generals-lied-ex-dc-guard-official-523777

a new hotrod

https://medmartonline.com/patient-lifts/manual-lifts/genesis-400-hydraulic-lift

This coming ROEvember will mark the beginning of the end of the Republican party. Trump's going into the dumpster fire of the rest of his life. The Senate is gaining Dem seats and the House will be swept by the blue tsunami which has been repeatedly coming ashore since 2018.

Fuck with American's civil rights and especially with abortion in the manner which they have - that's their death knell. Even MAGA/Republican women and girls have gotten abortions in the past and were quite thankful they had that right in their hip pocket at the time.

I've been a Democratic voter for 40+ years. I've seen good presidents and bad presidents. This is why I'm voting for Biden:

Secure Act 2.0

Veterans Act

Infrastructure Act

Inflation Reduction Act

CHIPS and Science Act

Cap on insulin costs for millions of Americans, not just a few thousand (like Trump did)

Medicare allowed to negotiate for better pricing.

Unemployment has been less than 4% for 23 consecutive months.

Stock markets are at new all time highs.

Inflation is heading downwards and the U.S. is doing much better than other countries.

Infrastructure is being upgraded in every state.

Job growth in Biden’s first three years outperformed any previous president.

330,000 new jobs added in March 2024

270,000 new jobs added in April 2024

3.56 million jobs added during Biden’s time in office.

The economy is growing at 5.2%, a faster rate than when trump was president.

The number of uninsured Americans hit an all-time low of 7.2% in the second quarter of 2023, while the number of people who signed up for an Obamacare plan for 2024 surged to 21.3 million.

Net worth has climbed under Biden.

By any measure, Biden has been an effective President, operating without weekly chaos and trying to tear NATO apart - and Biden has earned my vote for another 4 year term.

I campaigned in 2020 for Bernie Sanders right up until it was evident that Biden was going to be selected to represent the Democrats.

I'd still like to see Sanders and Elizabeth Warren in cabinet positions where they can provide their leadership and experience best.

The Israeli situation is not one of Biden's making - tell us how you'd handle things Mr Thorn, were you large and in charge.

The ongoing criminal conspiracy which is the Trump Organization. A mom & pop real estate company which never builds anything substantial at fair rates, as the Trump Org simply stiffs all the contractors who dare to work for Trump - and then they all get shafted. But, they know how to protect their backsides from Johnny Law:

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-criminal-cases-witnesses-financial-benefits

I don't suppose anyone ever thought to unveil this new chatroom set up on a server which wasn't in production and thus live - so the admins could experiment and fine tune or make changes to what would be a 95% completed chat product before it was rolled out to the production chat servers. Like how 100% of the rest of the computing world (with any credentials and experience) would choose to roll out a new product. Instead this is like Microsoft rolling out a new OS and asking the current customer base to make suggestions to improve the lousy 1st efforts.

Only in America can a convicted criminal, serving time (not hard time) for his violation - get a fucking interview while in prison - so he can spew his thoughts for the Next Trump Dictatorship.

https://www.semafor.com/article/05/21/2024/imprisoned-ex-trump-aide-peter-navarro-predicts-ouster-of-fed-chair-jay-powell

The polling was bad for Biden in 2020. There's more of us than there are of them and nobody has ever polled me or anyone I know.

Trump is getting rolled in November - prosecuted in all his remaining court cases and will probably be fitted with an ankle bracelet and get to spend all of his incarceration in that cockroach infested Mar-a-Lardo until he expires with his death rattle.

He'll get the Jeffrey Epstein imprisonment handshake deal.

Now it comes out that Alito, next to Thomas, one of the obvious degenerates wearing a robe on that court - was flying an American flag upside down - after the January 6th, 2021 insurrection.

And he isn't recusing himself from sitting in on any hearings involving Trump or those who tried to overthrow the government on that abysmal day.

SCOTUS has been rigged by the GQP for the last 20 years.

Quote by RowanThorn

Damn, lack of headlines only in America. Where 18 people killed in a mass shooting doesn’t crack front page on any news network. Ick.

Except, this happened last October and was extensively covered by all networks for a few days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Lewiston_shootings

It's been 21 years ago so many of you - might not even remember this, or know that it actually occurred. But -

James Comey, who was the Director of the FBI when Trump came into power - actually, once upon a time - gave people a reason to believe he was a 'good guy' when in fact, Comey was just another motherfucker - forcing his word and actions upon the American public. He seemed good - and then, 15 yrs later he fucked us and gave us Trump as President.

Biden and Comey and Obama & Garland and Bush and Trump: A group of motherfuckers nobody should have leading their country. But Americans have super short shelf life memories.

https://www.cato.org/blog/what-ashcroft-hospital-showdown-was-about

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-blasts-ag-merrick-garland-for-failing-to-prosecute-trump

*note (Obama never actually did shit to help America, he just survived 8 years without being assassinated). And he leveled up on the Drone War flights to 'That Other Place Over Yonder'. 4 times more efficient using drones to bomb Iraq and Afghanistan than even George W. Bush.

And Trump - trumped them both.

Rowan is a sleeper. End.Of.Story.