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1 month ago
Bisexual Cis Male, 35
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Quote by JohnC
Ok, Clum, your profile says you are straight. But it seems that at a minimum you are bi-curious. I have been trying to get a handle on your real intent here and goals. Any advice to be truly helpful has to be given with your REAL intent in mind.


Pray tell, what has given you that impression?

What you do and do not choose to believe from my profile is up to you. Perhaps we have different definitions of heterosexual (don't you just hate the word "straight"?). Perhaps you've misunderstood me in this thread. Perhaps I've misunderstood you.

Rest assured that my original post was genuine and sincere and that my "REAL intent" was not hidden. If I wanted advice on cruising for guys in gyms, that's what I would have asked for. Your original response was adequate and helpful.
Quote by Magical_felix
..............When you locked eyes from across the room, was it for more than 6 seconds?

When you lock eyes without blinking with a person for 6 seconds or more, it signifies a strong desire for sex or murder.


I dunno; it's hard to keep track of time when you're lost in someone's eyes.

I definitely don't want to murder the guy...
Quote by Magical_felix
.................................Is he hot?


Like you wouldn't believe. And that cock... fuck me, that would hurt!
You know, everything else in my life is going wonderfully just now. I have such gratitude for the course my life is taking and I thought that this situation was about to go the same way, too.

But my love life continues to be the smudge on the windscreen that drives me to the edge of insanity and threatens to crash the car. I wish I could understand my karma. Why is it that a guy who wants nothing more than to settle down and raise a family is one of the most hopeless fuckers in the world when it comes to relationships?

She knows how I feel, by the way. She didn't really respond to it. Last night was weird—a surprising amount of shit went down that I just did not see coming. Friendships hung in the balance; some are still shaky. I should have taken that last bus but I can just never help myself. It's like I have an out-of-body experience where I can see myself making bad decisions, but instead of trying to stop me, I just cross my arms and knowingly say, "You'll regret that," while shaking my head.

The upshot is, I'm painfully sleep-deprived, no more enlightened by the situation, and I start training for a half marathon on Monday (don't ask).

In other news, I've given up alcohol (except maybe tequila).

No need to reply. I know.
Now that all the images are broken, I can't see anyone's cock or tits. How am I supposed to know who to send friend requests to, huh?
Quote by GingerKitty
Maybe you should write a story about it.


You know, I can't even remember the last time I verified something in the Toys category.
If you're going to break a story up into chapters, the first of which has no sex, make sure they are posted shortly after one another, so that you catch that audience right away. People may like the first part, but there are a lot of stories on this site and it's easy to move on and forget that there's more of your story coming. Audiences DO trail away as series go on; be wary of that.

Of course, they still need to go through the verifying process and only one will appear on the front page per day, but you will be able to link them together if they have been verified.
Funny story...

I went to the gym today and this whole thread was playing on my mind the entire time.

There was one guy who came into the gym at the same time as me. I caught his eye a couple of times but didn't say anything (besides, he had headphones on). Our paths crossed several times on the gym floor—he even sat on the rowing machine next to me for a while—and I probably could have said something to him but... I didn't. We were even back in the locker room getting changed to go home at the same time and I nearly said hi as he was putting his socks on, but I chickened out (and because that would be SO gay).

I headed back into town to run a few errands before heading home. When I came out of the pharmacy, I bump into a friend of mine and who is he with? The guy from the gym. We got introduced and kind of made awkward mention of the fact we had both just been at the gym together.

Clearly the universe wanted me to meet this guy, for whatever reason.

Thought I'd share.
I just really want to address the "cliffhangers" question:

Cliffhangers can be a fantastic device in a story and can really excite a reader. However, if there's no promise of ever revealing "what happened next" then you have to get it absolutely right. It's not something I have seen a lot of authors do well, to be honest; even less so on an amateur site.

Leaving something to the imagination of the reader, leaving some things unsaid, is one thing. Leaving them at a complete loose end is something else entirely and runs the risk of frustrating the reader to the detriment of their enjoyment of the story. Don't end a story prematurely just for the impact you think it might have; leave it at a point where the reader can say, "That was a great story, I really loved the characters; it really intrigues me to think about what might have happened afterwards."

Obviously no one's actually saying those words, but you get my point. So, by all means, do it, but tread carefully and don't antagonise your audience unnecessarily.
Sorry. Hit the wrong button and double posted.

SAVE THE TREES!
I'm behind eBooks all the way, as an environmental issue as much as anything. I don't have an eReader myself but I do read a decent amount on my phone (mostly articles or short stories) and would love to get one eventually.

Sure, it's not quite the same as reading an actual book, but we all make compromises and, in time, adapt as technology advances and I don't think flicking through pages is something the loss of which a future generation will mourn. I don't believe we'll ever lose books altogether but, as the whole world goes electronic, they will go the same way. Already this is opening up previously unimaginable opportunities for amateur writers like you and me.

Is it a shame for the book shop industry? Of course it is. But they're not the first to be taken down by technology, e.g., record stores, and they won't be the last. Times change and we should change with them.
I often forget to check tags before I start reading and then, maybe about half-way through, my "mod eyes" will kick into action and I'll flick back to check.

I think they are very important in stories with many elements and several scenes. With some stories I write, I use the tags to indicate the other categories the story might have ended up in. However, I'm also cautious of giving too much away (the same is true of category). Like, sometimes I might want to put something in Love Stories but don't because it makes the ending even more predictable.

I believe I've only ever written one story containing any sexual acts that readers might find "off-putting" and the tags were quite clear in that—they knew what they were in for.
Seeing the title of this thread, and then the fact that it was started in July 2010, made me laugh.
Now, that's something I might be more interested in (and the meeting place is literally about two minutes from my flat). The time commitment is a problem for me though (that's partly why I don't go to the gym at the same time every week). Food for thought.

Cheers for the link.
Quote by overmykneenow
You have two SPL clubs in your City - why not go along - you might enjoy it. Dundee are appallingly bad at the moment - such times are always good for talking to the bloke next to you. If you've never been to a football game you should at least go just to say you tried it.


I do enjoy watching some sport (including football) and I do know some things about it. But I don't really keep up to date with it and I don't care much for talking about it.

The football team I support is not in the SPL so most folk don't have much to say about them. I have no interest in going to a Dundee or a United game—it's extra time and money I don't wish to spends on teams which I could not care less about.

I appreciate the suggestion but it's not for me.
Quote by SamBrown
the England rugby/football/golf or other sporting event - if they go to the gym then they are very likely to be interested in sport


Probably a bad way to go in a gym in the middle of Dundee...

But yeah, thanks very much for your comment. The sports thing would be a good idea, except that I'm not really into sports. I guess I could always read up on sports but then it becomes too much like work (and more than a little creepy).
Quote by Magical_felix
...............................................Does it take place in a locker room?


It does not.
Quote by WellMadeMale
Clum, I know you can appreciate irony.

Jack has been talking at/to you in exactly the kind of manner that most guys talk to other guys. Especially in a locker room (after everyone is comfortable with each other).


I do appreciate that irony; how shrewd. That's why I like Jack, even when he's a dick.

I wouldn't have picked up on it though—I've never spoken to guys in the locker room...
Quote by Poppet
I'm with Clum.


Oh, thank goodness. I thought no one was going to acknowledge my zinger.

Thanks, Poppet; made my day. (Well, it was already a pretty fucking great day but you made it even better).
Quote by clum
Thanks for your input, though.


I did thank you, Jack, and I do so again. Each subsequent response since your first has been more and more useful. I completely understand the valid point you were originally trying to make, I just think initially you made it rather... shitly.

Quote by Magical_felix
This just occurred to me... Do you feel pressure talking to men sometimes? Do you get nervous? Do you second guess what you say? Do you ask yourself often "is this an appropriate time to approach"? Do you sometimes have the fear of rejection in the back of your mind?


Yes. But I feel like that when I talk to everyone, whether I'm attracted to them or not. That's kind of why I'm trying to work on my communication and kind of why I had to ask this question to which you feel the answer is so blatantly obvious. Some social situations I'm unsure of; I'm okay with admitting that.

Quote by Magical_felix
Okay so sometimes I can't tell if threads like this are an overelaborate joke that I fell for because I mean "locker room chat" sounds like gay erotica...


Yeah... the thread title was purposefully misleading (maybe I have a strange sense of humour) but that's why I went out of my way to include the disclaimer at the start of my post.

My next story is gay erotica actually. Take from that what you will.

THANKS, JACK! (Seriously, I appreciate your honesty, even if I don't especially care for the way you present it).
Quote by Magical_felix
If you can't see that I was trying to give you an honest reply on what you asked and what most guys would think a split second after you approached them in this situation and not that I was calling YOU gay... Then that's really your hang up.


I can see that. And I thanked you for it. I just didn't think it was especially useful.

I didn't for a second think you were calling me gay. But surely people who think my actions are gay (whatever that means) would transitively have that same opinion of me.
How "nice" are those guys who are being "nice" in the hope of something in return? How "nice" are they when bitching about being in the "friend zone"? How "nice" are the guys who think the world owes them something because they have some manners and common decency?

Nice guys finish last, they say. I disagree. Arseholes pretending to be "nice guys"—they finish last.
Quote by Magical_felix
Look man, I just gave you the cliff notes on why everyone else said it isn't the best moment to shoot the shit.

Also, for future reference, It's probably not a good idea to strike up conversations with other guys in changing rooms, strip clubs while a guy is getting a lap dance or in a public bathroom while urinating next to him.

It might seem gay. Just saying.


To be honest, my problem wouldn't be with it "seeming gay" but more with it making people uncomfortable, which is really what my question was about. If people think that any guy who wants to strike up a friendly conversation is probably homosexual, that's really their hang-up.

Like I said before, I've got a little more tact than to start chatting with a guy while he pulled his underwear on. In my OP I recognised the public bathroom protocol, and I don't go to strip clubs. However, thanks for the tips.

Seriously, I know what you're getting at but "That would be so gay" was hardly the most insightful contribution to this discussion. I'm really not very concerned about other people's views on my sexuality. Thanks for your input, though.

EDIT: And I was being sincere when I said it was my favourite response.
Quote by Magical_felix
That would be so gay.


My favourite response.

Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful advice (except Jack, obviously). There doesn't seem to be a consensus on this issue but it generally tends to be leaning in the "don't do it" direction. That's pretty much what my intuition tells me but I'm not really apt to strike up casual conversation in many situations so I wasn't the best judge.

I can't really commit to taking up a class and, if I'm honest, I don't really want to. I'm not on some kind of mission to make lots of new friends; I just wanted to make sure I'm making the most of the opportunities I already have. My primary reason for going to the gym is, and always will be, to improve my fitness.

My gym doesn't really have a communal lounge-type area where people hang out. There are a few vending machines but it's not a social space. Now that I think about it, it's a rather impersonal gym—it doesn't even have a reception desk.

I suppose I'll just carry on as I have been doing and maybe try some small talk with people on the gym floor (those who aren't wearing earphones, anyway). I'll look out for more appropriate situations in which to make new acquaintances, too.

Thanks again, everyone. And if you ever see me at the gym, or anywhere, I'm very open to a chat.
Quote by Iain69
Clum: can you really say after listening to one of Mazzas Audios that "The Scottish accent is horrible" ? Surely that's too much of a generalisation.

The Scottish Accent varies hugely: the Prim and Proper Edinburgh Folk speak quite differently to Glaswegians even theough they are only 50 miles apart. Then we've got the Dundonian screech, the "Fit Likers" from Aberdeen and have you ever heard an Invernesian say "My Brothers car's got rubber bumpers"?

Finally: don't tell me you don't like Kirsty Youngs voice?


Of course, I generalise. As you point out, there are a huge variety of accents spoken in Scotland and some are more pleasing to the ear than others.

In general, when I have heard Scottish people speak on radio or television, especially when juxtaposed with an English or American accent, it really grates on me. They just sound so... common.

My accent is a strange one. I'm from Edinburgh originally but lived in West Lothian for most of my life, which has influences from Glasgow. I spent two years in St Andrews and still travel there every day so I've had to moderate my "Scottishness" considerably for the benefit of all the people there. Now I live in Dundee and definitely pick up wee phrases here and there. It depends who I'm talking to, too.
Quote by carnal_kitty01
Nope, does nothing for me lol. Give me a pair of well-fitting jeans anyday, that shows off the guys bum! The (scottish) accent on the other hand....oooh la la!


Really? The Scottish accent is horrendous. My people should not be allowed on television or radio.
My gym is quite a large one and I don't go at the same time every week so it's rare that I see people more than once or twice. Maybe I should think about getting into more of a routine with rather than just when I feel like I should.