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lafayettemister
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male
0 miles · New Orleans

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Shrimp Etouffee

3 tbsp oil or butter and 3 tbsp of flour (with all cajun dishes, first your make a roux)
The Holy Trinity (diced onion, celery, green or red pepper)
1/4 cupParsley
3 lbs shrimp
water or stock, approx 2 cups
salt and pepper
Cajun seasoning (Tony Chachere's is best but Zatarain's or Slap Yo Mama will work)
Tabasco
Rice

Brown the oil/margarine and flour. Stirring constantly until light brown
Stir in the Holy Trinity and let brown
Add shrimp and water/seafood stock
Add parsley
Salt, pepper, Cajun seasoning, Tabasco, to taste
Simmer uncovered for 30 minutes.

Serve or rice and enjoy

also... some people like tomatoes in their etouffee. Adding a can or Ro-Tel can be used.
Quote by TheGulfCoaster


You're still twisting my words around. You're being disingenuous and I don't really understand why. but from here on out I'm simply going to ignore you and your rants. You've lied about what I've said, attributed things to me I never said, You are simply not worth discussing any issue with, let alone this one. For anyone with critical thinking skills, simply read my very first post. All the arguing here has been due to lafayettemister's inability to understand what I wrote and then go off on his little tantrum. please, grow up.

I wrote:
"Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens."

This was my opinion and I intended to leave it as such until lafayettemister started twisting my word and 'assuming' he knew what I meant and 'insinuating' that I was not free to have my own opinion and perhaps insisting that I adopt HIS opinion. I did clarify my statement a bit when he erroneously thought that I meant it was that it was somehow degrading or disrespectful to me. Other than that, I can't understand how he dare argue with me because my opinion differs from his. What gives you the right to tell me whether my opinion is valid or not. I never judged your opinon. You obviously don't know how to enjoy a civil debate nor how to be honest when doing so. Good bye.



Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens.


You posted the above... I replied with what's below. I didn't think you meant it was degrading or disrespectful to you, it was a sarcastic question. I knew you were saying it was disrespectful or degrading to women. My question was sarcasm, as it would be silly for you to assume that a woman would feel degraded or disrespected for enjoying this act.

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How does it degrade or disrespect you to cum on a woman's face? Surely you aren't telling women who enjoy such things how they should feel?


I'm not twisting your words, sir. I've quoted them specifically. Nor have I lied. I understand what you wrote, perfectly well. However, I believe you've missed the entire crux of my argument.

".... how dare I argue with you.." Wow, how dare I indeed. I tell you your opinion is invalid because it isn't an opinion. Saying a woman is disrespected or degraded if she has a man cum on her face isn't an opinion. If SHE doesn't feel either of those emotions, then why should someone else's "opinion" have an validity. I'm not trying to convince you of my opinion. Not even close. You can be opposed to giving facials if you choose. More power to you. Not once did I try to invalidate you dislike of the act. You are free to disagree with me for thinking it's hot.

Here's another way of looking at it. If I had a wife or girlfriend and she likes to have me cum onto her face and I do so, willing. Then by your definition, I've degraded her and disrespected her. Why do you feel you have the right to an opinion about what goes on between two consenting adults?

As for civil debate, I think it's you who is lacking in that department. Goodbye, sir.
I have someone that is/was my friend, after trading PMs, neither of us recalls unfriending the other. I go to her page and click "Ask ___ to be a friend", when I send the request Lush notifies me that ____ is already my friend. But she's not? Maybe I've been blocked? Weird.
Ok, so you're saying that for any woman who asks for or enjoys ejaculate on her face must have had some sort of trauma in her life. It's not possible for a woman to just enjoy doing something different? To maybe find it to be really hot just because they're sexually adventurous and confident in themselves?

Comparing this to abortion is apples and oranges. But to use your analogy... We could argue about whether or not it's right to have an abortion. What we couldn't do is assign some emotion or moral term to define their actions. Like degradation, disrespect, humiliation, shame. All of those terms define how she should/would/could feel, those aren't part of debate.

The original question is whether or not it's a "turn on". To you it's not a turn on, fair enough. No one can say if an action on their part is degrading. I could say whenever you fart or slap a woman's ass during sex or cum in her mouth or bite/nibble on her nipple, it's degrading. But i have no right to do so, I can't have an opinion about your agreed upon actions. I can disagree that I wouldn't do it, but not that you shouldn't.

edit... to quote a female Lush friend... "he's saying it's degrading, it's only degrading if the woman involved is degraded. it's not in itself degrading"
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens.


Are you saying you'd be disrespecting or degrading them or that they would be disrespected or degraded?

What psychological reasons do you think would lead a woman to want to have her face cummed on? By psychological, I'd assume you meant something bad.

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It doesn't disrespect or degrade me - it disrespects and degrades the woman. It makes me wonder what happened earlier in their life that makes that seem like an act of respect or admiration. Can you imagine your Dad coming on your Mom's face, or perhaps your Sister's boyfriend coming on her face? What about that is respectful? Like I said, there are many other options besides the face.


Again, when mentioning someone's past in this manner you must not be talking about rainbows and unicorns? Maybe some women (most?) don't see it as respect or admiration, maybe they just view it as fun and naughty? Can something be neither respectful nor disrespectful? Is it more or less respectful to cum in a woman's mouth than on her face?

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No, you twisted my words. The woman is not degrading herself. It's a degrading act and I believe she's allowing herself to experience a degrading act because of something in her past. I'm sure as a little girl, she didn't grow up unable to wait until she could get a load of cum on the face. I'm quite certain it would not be considered a normal part of sex by a great majority of people if the question were studied. If I was with a woman and she asked me to do that, I would explain how I felt about the act and if she 'had' to have it, it most likely would signal the end of the relationship. I noticed how you didn't answer the question about how you would feel if your Dad did that to your Mom or your Sister's boyfriend did it to her.

But I don't have to be with a woman who wants that done to her anymore than she has to be with a guy who feels some compulsion to do that to her.


If she allows a degrading act, she's allowing herself to be degraded? And only because of "something" in her past. What might that "something" be?

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Do you always twist peoples words? You seem to have trouble understanding exactly what I wrote and contrary to what you think, I did post my opinion, stated in plain English and quite concisely.

Did I tell you what to think or do? NO. Did I EVER tell anyone what they should think or do? NO. What exactly about my post has your panties in such a bunch? You seem to lack so reading skills - where or when did I use the word 'Abuse'? - I've read every post I've made on this thread and have never used that word.

Arguing a position by misrepresenting the point made or actual language used will not help you win the debate. You replies to my OPINION (did I ever state it was anything other than MY opinion? Again, NO.) are totally invalid and for someone who claimed on his post on page 6 of this thread to have never experienced the activity anyhow, Why the Hell are you arguing with me about MY OPINION in the first place? CAREFULLY read my posts and you'll see everything I expressed was simply MY OPINION. You're entitled to your own opinion, too but you are not entitled to misrepresent MINE.

In the future please refrain from quoting me unless you use my actual words.


First off, you never used the term "cum facial". But that's what it's called. That's the terminology for the act in question.

You never used the specific word "abuse", but have several times mentioned "something" from a woman's past. You're referencing abuse even if you don't use the word.

I guess our difference is that I don't think that either of us, men, can have an opinion on what is degrading to women. Only a woman can decide that for herself. Some people think swallowing cum is degrading to women. Some think stripping is degrading to women. Only a woman herself can say what is degrading to her. That's all I'm saying. My disagreement with your opinion is that you can tell someone how to feel.
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Maybe we should take a poll? I have a feeling my opinion is among the majority, whether the poll is taken on Lush or an even wider sample of the population.


You didn't post your opinion. You posted that it's degrading to women. You aren't a woman so you can't opine about whether something is degrading or disrestpectful to all women.

Valid opinion... GC doesn't think it's a turn on to cum on a woman's face. Not something he would ever enjoy as he'd feel he's disrespecting her to do so.

Invalid opinion... Cum facials are a degrading act and women that enjoy them must have had some form of abuse in their past. Any woman that likes cum facials is agreeing to being degraded.

edit.. we could do a poll, but it wouldn't prove anything. You're opinion is that it's degrading, like it's a fact. If even one woman disagrees then your fact is disputed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not entitled to telling someone else how to feel.
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No, you twisted my words. The woman is not degrading herself. It's a degrading act and I believe she's allowing herself to experience a degrading act because of something in her past. I'm sure as a little girl, she didn't grow up unable to wait until she could get a load of cum on the face. I'm quite certain it would not be considered a normal part of sex by a great majority of people if the question were studied. If I was with a woman and she asked me to do that, I would explain how I felt about the act and if she 'had' to have it, it most likely would signal the end of the relationship. I noticed how you didn't answer the question about how you would feel if your Dad did that to your Mom or your Sister's boyfriend did it to her.

But I don't have to be with a woman who wants that done to her anymore than she has to be with a guy who feels some compulsion to do that to her.


If it's a "degrading act" and a woman chooses or requests a cum facial, then she'd be choosing to degrade herself.

It's not a degrading act if she doesn't believe it's a degrading act. Why can't she just be a sexually adventurous woman who likes to push boundaries every now and then? Does every woman who enjoys something other than vanilla sex HAVE to be a woman that had something tragic happen in her past? Many prudes in the world would make the same assumptions about a woman that likes anal sex. Or rough sex. Or BDSM.

You're absolutely correct, if you're with a woman that wants a cum facial, it is most definitely your choice to not do it. And it very well could be the end of your relationship. Totally fine, you have to do what's right for you. However, you can't put your own personal judgements of it being degrading onto everyone else.

As for your question, I did't answer it because it's a pretty ridiculous question. Aimed only at seeking an emotional and personal response. But to answer your question. If my mother or my sister want to enjoy it, that's their decision. If THEY choose to participate, it's NOT degrading. My response or opinion doesn't change depending on the people involved. If anyone's opinion on any matter changes if it involves their friends or family, then it wasn't a valid opinion to begin with.

edit... it's a degrading act in your opinion. but not everyone shares your opinion, wouldn't you agree?
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It doesn't disrespect or degrade me - it disrespects and degrades the woman. It makes me wonder what happened earlier in their life that makes that seem like an act of respect or admiration. Can you imagine your Dad coming on your Mom's face, or perhaps your Sister's boyfriend coming on her face? What about that is respectful? Like I said, there are many other options besides the face.


It only disrespects or degrades the woman if SHE thinks so. How can a third party tell someone what is disrespectful or degrading to a person? It's no different than some prudish talking head saying that being a stripper is degrading to women. Why is it that if a woman likes doing something out of the norm, she must have had something horrible happen to them earlier in life? Maybe, just maybe, she likes it for her own reason.

If a guy is getting a blowjob and pulls out at the last second and spews cum on a woman's face without her permission (if she's a new lover. longtime lovers may know it's ok) then THAT is disrespectful. If a woman, or a man for that matter, wants and asks or tells her/his lover to do it, then in no way is is disrespectful.

As someone mentioned earlier, how is it more disrespectful to cum on a woman's face than it is in her mouth? If woman likes both, depending on her mood? It's ok if she wants to suck a guy off and swallow his load? That's hot, right? But if she wants him to cum on her face she's degrading herself because of her past? Come on GC, that's not for you to decide is it?
Quote by TheGulfCoaster
Even if the woman wants it, I think it's not only disrespectful but downright degrading to come on a woman's face. I would question the psychological reasons for a woman who claims to like or want it or for a guy who likes to do it. Boobs, 'Pearl Necklace', lower back following doggie-style or lower belly following 'guy on top' are OK with me if the girl wants it and indicates so before it happens.


How does it degrade or disrespect you to cum on a woman's face? Surely you aren't telling women who enjoy such things how they should feel?
Yeah, definitely skinny dipping. Nothing wrong with looking as long as that's all I do.
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Men and Women. I dont get it really, Im not that special, LOL!!


Is it okay to say I love your boobs? They definitely are special. lol
The balls definitely need some attention. Licking and sucking feels great, and like DD said, it will give your jaws a break. Of course, mouth on cock is the main attraction but during all that, some fondling by hand makes the the blowjob even better. I had one lover who played with my balls no matter what we were doing. Even when we fucked she always had one hand on my balls, just playing with them. I always came really hard with her. lol
You know I will, Tami. Hey, my cock is cold. Can I lay it lengthwise between your ass cheeks to keep it warm?
I'm still unable to send private message/black box from someone's profile. If I click on the "Send an online message" link, type a message an hit "Enter" or click "Reply", the message just stays there. Nothing happens. I have to go to my list of friends, scroll down until I find them, then hover over their name and use the drop down menu to send a box.

Hitting "Enter" just moves the cursor down a line within the box.

I've never given a cum facial, but I have cum on tits many times. I enjoy it, but only if she does. Not something I'd force or coerce her into doing.