Quote by stephanie
Sometimes I don't even have to say a fucking word, do I???
xx SF
*FUCKING ASSWIPE!!!*
shush. Jack made a valid point. there was no personal attack. don't fire up this thread now that it's cooled off, please.
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Quote by Magical_felix
Kiera and everyone else. While I respect your desire to share your experiences about what happened to you, maybe lush isn't the best place for it. This is the type of website where you have a very high chance of reading something sexually deviant or insensitive that may offend if you are a survivor. There are more appropriate places for that kind of stuff... Like the actual project semi colon website. It just doesn't make sense to ask people on a site like this to always be mindful about what they say like if it were the project semi colon site. Sorry to sound insensitive but it is just not appropriate for a site like this. When you saw the title of this thread... what did you expect it was going to be about? Of course it was going to be about something that might be triggering to some. Why did you click on it anyway? It's like a sober alcoholic going into a bar and then claiming everyone is being insensitive for having drinks around him. Not the most appropriate place for an alcoholic to be to begin with.
good point, it's why i keep that kind of conversation confined to specific threads - thanks for the reminder, Jack. and yeah, people shouldn't go looking for triggers. let the mods take care of things they find issues with.
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Quote by Frisky_Faye
Your hospitality is heart-warming. Thank you.
Look, I just expressed my honest opinion. I never intended to upset or cause fuss.
If you look back at my posts, you'll see that I did try to end the discussion on several occasions. I made quite clear that my opinion of consent differs ever so slightly to the general consensus. I think I am entitled to an opinion, even if the masses disagree.
I realised that I had upset someone last night, and tried to make light of the situation, by claiming I was joking, implying that I wished to take the debate no further. The implication was not heeded, and the discussion seemed to spill over into this morning.
I'd like to be given the chance to redeem myself. And I like girls' names, if I'm being honest.
there's a couple of things that we are really hardcore on, here. Consent, and underage, as in no underage. pretty much everything else, everyone, including the mods, are pretty relaxed about. those three items, however, are hot points and not tolerated as far as sexual topics go. reason? legality and the fact that we like to create a classy and comfortable atmosphere for all our readers, make, female, gay, straight, bi, trans, queer, etc - everyone is welcome, and we treat everyone as well as their kinks and fetishes with respect. that's important, it's hardwired into the site.
truthfully, when someone comes along and seemingly questions those ideals and gives a little push back, they're going to be scrutinized and there are going to be people who step up and make sure that they, and anyone reading, understand that some things aren't tolerated.
a lot of the rules on writing have been fluid. we did away with allowing in erotic stories a couple years ago, some things have relaxed, but some things are set in stone and there is no room for a sense of humor when applied to them, simple as that.
welcome to Lush. i really do hope you keep writing, that you become part of the community, that you make friends, and that you enjoy yourself. it's a good place and we look after it passionately.
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Quote by kiera
Jesus If I as a new lesbian (albeit a terrible one) knew you were going to offer to spank me, I would have been more rude to the Essex girl... Maybe even used the "C" word... a fine opportunity missed by me, damn me and my politeness and upstanding British manners.
Want a brownie?
the C word? you'd get a hell of a lot more than a spanking for that, girl.
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Quote by kiera
Thank you very much for this and I apologise for not responding and thanking you sooner for reaching out to me when I was having a tough time, Gael had emailed me privately so I also had already thanked him... Thank you, Rach for the above post as it reminded me that I had not thanked patokl.
This thread is such a beautiful thing, I love how we all look out for each other... I know I look out for if it is posted on and come look in case someone needs help and I want to thank each and every one of you for looking out for me and for you all to know that if you ever need me I will be there for you too.
Big Thank you to Rachel too for creating this thread for us.
Hi Rachel
Get your own damn cookie, pizza burner.
Her Royal Spriteness
Quote by CelticLady7
It is hard to battle these things. I read your post on the other thread & have seen the semicolon website & tattoos. I, myself decided to get the tattoo just last week. I have three children & my oldest two have mental issues. My second is a cutter. I fear for my third.
Lots of good wishes for you. I know it isn't easy, but know your words have gotten out there. I for one & thankful for your story.
just wanted to say hello, and wish you the best. we have cookies and punch, if you'd like. *hug*
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Quote by Frisky_Faye
Using threats and blackmail in order to coerce a person to agree to sex does not constitute a consensual encounter. A person has to be 100% willing and ready to give their body in order for consent to be valid. It's a situation in which a person has agreed to sex against their wishes and better judgement. That is not giving consent because they want to. It's giving consent because being is far more preferable to the alternative.
Think of it like this: A man is in court, facing charges of . He says to the judge and jury, in his defence: "I pointed a gun at her, your honour, and told her that she either consented to sex or get shot. She then agreed to have sex with me. Therefore the subsequent sex was completely consensual."
Do you think that defence statement would stand up in court of law and get the defendant acquitted of ?
you missed an important part of my post:
as a rule, we do insist that, by the end of the story, the character enjoys the encounter and comes away with a positive experience. s/he may be coerced into doing something, but not forced, and it's something that is not against their nature, so to speak.
now, as Raven said, you really might want to consider dropping the subject - it's not up for debate nor discussion.
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Quote by Frisky_Faye
Sorry. I apologise. I'm just yanking your chain really. I enjoy good healthy debate. It's good for the soul.
on the subject of non-consent and reluctance. first off, there's no debate. the rules aren't going to change.
secondly, lush publishes erotic stories. /non-consent have nothing to do with sex. it's violence, pure and simple.
as far as reluctance stories go, the character gets a choice, gets to say yes or no. as a rule, we do insist that, by the end of the story, the character enjoys the encounter and comes away with a positive experience. s/he may be coerced into doing something, but not forced, and it's something that is not against their nature, so to speak.
non-consent means they have no choice, and do not enjoy or get anything out of the experience.
i hope this helps clarify things.
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Quote by patokl
Kiera, nobody who has been reading this thread thinks you are stupid. Those that do.. they're the stupid ones, fuck'm. You, Rachel and all of you, sharing in this thread, are incredibly brave and far from nuts.
Here's a
actually, i'm totally nuts, but that's a whole different issue
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Quote by trinket
I became impatient so I goggled it. Here is what I found out about the secret lesbian handshake. This MUST be true bc I found it on the Internet. After pondering the activities lesbians engage in, I think I might use the handshake to know who the lesbians are. NOTHING wrong with Lesbians (are we allowed to call them that). I think I have changed my mind about being one. My closet door is nailed shut.
This is priceless - best smile of the day - thanks, T
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Quote by kiera
Talking about it all is not easy when you do which I just did which prolly was not a good idea...
Couple of nights ago i was having a bad night, K... i know what you mean. i sent this to Dancing Doll - we talk about this stuff, she's a great listener and i trust her, plus, i know that i can lay the heavy stuff on her from time to time. at the time, i didn't know she was on, in fact... well, self explanatory. i left out her side of the convo, she came on about 1/3 of the way thru and talked me through some things:
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kind of hoping you're not here, if you are, that's fine too... just needed to talk... there are times, when i need to just relive that moment, so that i know i can beat it. and it's hard, but there's a catharsis in it too.... and other times, i need to talk about it, for someone to listen, but i don't know how - it's not something anyone wants to hear, that i want them to hear, and those times, i just feel alone and sad and it's all i can do to hold it together. it's better, things are better, but i don't lie to myself and say that it ever goes away, healing, yes, but it never fully heals.
i'm reminded of this here and there - Lady Gaga at the Oscars last night, or the girl i talked to last week - she had scars on her palms - she used her hands to fend off a knife. on her face, too. it was nice, talking, tho. i didn't feel alone. even the silences were nice. not uncomfortable, not awkward. we both understood. i wish i could get that from other friends without them having to go through the same thing... sometimes i just go silent. it's easier, but all the time there's this great cacophony within that wants to burst free. i don't let it, even though i want to. i don't want to hear the silence when i do... sorry, i just needed to be able to say this and get silence back, not because you don't get it, but because you're not there. i can live with that silence
for me, it's always the elephant in the room, only, i'm the only one who can see it. it's always there, you know, in the back of my head - sometimes really quiet, and it leaves me alone, but i can feel it lurking.
i don't know how you could stay silent. that's a lie. i understand it all too well... i never judge anyone who stays silent. it's not my right. i know how hard it is. that's why i write about it, you know, why i 'came out'. saying those words, tho, is still so hard to do. and sometimes, i am numb, and when i am, i need that, at least for a while.
there are nights when i'm in it, still. too many nights. not as many, but any is too many. there's no distance. it's fresh. i can't even remember to get put cheese on the shopping list, but i can remember every single detail - not that i want to, but it's tattooed on my brain. it's nearly impossible. it's why i rarely talk about it, even when i can't think of anything else.
it's kind of a conversation killer at parties, you know. the panic attacks are rare these days, but they happen, and it's always... unsettling. i don't like people having to deal with my shit... i just don't want that to be all i ever talk about. that scares me a bit. it's easier to not deal with things then it is to deal with them.
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*hugs* it's okay, Kiera, either way, whether you share it or not, it's all about what helps you deal with it. only you can know that, and if talking helps, talk. if not talking helps, don't talk. either way, no judgement, no shame, just love, purely unconditional. it's not easy and i admire you for hanging in there. it takes a lot of courage. love you - that goes for the rest of you. love you all.
xo
rach
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Quote by weekender
I wrote a story.....
So?
Did you read it?
ya....
did you like it...
it was o.k....
did you score it? Nope....
Why?
Didn't wanna hurt your feelings...
Oh so you didn't like it...
i DIDN'T SAY THAT....
Well.... what did you mean?
You want me to score it?
Ya...
(later)
What did you do?
I scored your story...
ya... but you gave me a 4.... why not a 5?
I scored it as I saw it... there were things that could be improved
I don't think so.... it was approved as is.... it was the BEST!!
Well.... I personally thing....
I don't care what you think....
Why did you want me to score it?
I thought you'd give me a 5... it was good... it was approved...
I think there have been many that are better... what would I give them?
This was good... good as any....
Not everyone can be the "BEST"
Creep (or any number of other words of wisdom)
Dropped as "Friends"....
Do you all realize this started in the world when the rules of the playground games were changed, and everyone got a blue ribbon... some even when they were not there!
Back then there were Varsity and JV Teams, as well as "Intramural Sports".... for those who couldn't make the teams!!
I follow a big bunch of auteurs here! I receive and follow up with about 3-5 writings a day.... read about half, first word to end... Some are of no interest at all... hardly read any of those! Start some and never finish!
Either way.... I give feedback to maybe 1 out of 100 by commenting or scoring there at the posting! A small few others... I catch around site and comment! Those are ones that strike me as "Really Good"!!
The rest may be JV and many strike me as "Intramural Writings"! There I said it!!
I read for my interest and what ever.....
I openly invite anyone to send me a "pre-copy" to ask my idea on it but you'll get my views! As many may see here... my spelling sucks.... I skip words when I type... I'm dyslexic and my sentence structure....does not exist! (and I like "......", despite what others say about it!
My thoughts on what I read are just that.... they do not matter in the greater picture of you being a writer! I don't buy your stories.
I would like to take this time to graciously say thank you all, for posting stories.... or not.... as it keeps me entertained and off the curve....
Please keep posting so I don't have to go back to Penthouse Letters, or what ever is out there, these days!
*unfriends and blocks you*
you knew it all along, didn't you?
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Quote by Dani
Spending time with a coworker who happens to be a lesbian does not automatically mean she's lesbian or bisexual.
not true. the reality is, if you talk to a lesbian, it turns you into a lesbian. it's like a virus. unless she's gotten her anti-lesbian innoculation, she's probably already got the disease.
