Alternate Interpretations of Films

26 Mar 2020

Do you have any alternate interpretations of films? Provide them, personally, I believe that the the movie based on the first 50 Shades book is actually a piece of elaborate absurdist performance art, at least I kind of hope it is. I emailed one of the director's points of contact on her website with my theory but never heard back.

I'm also not convinced that the Empire are the bad guys in Star Wars, but my theory is much more tenuous on that one.

6 Apr 2020

There's a theory floating around the internet that Sandy in Grease, actually died or drowned on the beach during the summer, and then the ensuing film is her fever dream as Danny tries to save her life, and then at the end when the car flies off, that's her passing on.

6 Apr 2020

Never mind alternate theories: does anyone have any theories at all about what-the-fuck is going on in Mulholland Drive (the film not the actual drive). I've watched it four times now and am still none the wiser.

6 Apr 2020

Quote by LucaByDesign
Never mind alternate theories: does anyone have any theories at all about what-the-fuck is going on in Mulholland Drive (the film not the actual drive). I've watched it four times now and am still none the wiser.

It's David Lynch. Need I say more? I love his movies but, yeah, I think his preferred genre is best described as "surreal noir". Basically, whatever you think happened, happened.

7 Apr 2020

Quote by seeker4

It's David Lynch. Need I say more? I love his movies but, yeah, I think his preferred genre is best described as "surreal noir". Basically, whatever you think happened, happened.

Some help you are! icon_smile

Yeah, I have my own ideas but thought it would be interesting to see what others thought. I love the film, would even have without the girl on girl scene. I keep meaning to watch Twin Peaks again but there is that much good drama out there theses day, doubt I will ever get around to it.

18 Apr 2020

Quote by LucaByDesign
Never mind alternate theories: does anyone have any theories at all about what-the-fuck is going on in Mulholland Drive (the film not the actual drive). I've watched it four times now and am still none the wiser.

There's 2 parts to what your describing. The film is deliberately obtuse, Lynch, when asked in interviews about the meaning of MD, he turns the question around. The meaning is supposed to be interpreted.

I have a few theories. The first is that the first half is a delusion on the part of Betty, encountering the triangular blue key causes her to sort of snap out of it as it was the call card letting her know the job she hired someone for is done. That's the more traditional reaction.

Second theory, the blue box with the triangle key is a sort of portal to another reality/dimension. This is a bit out there but given all the surreal imagery involved in the movie, I could see it being plausible, and Lynch has used alternate realities/dimmensions in other works.

Next option, it's vicious takedown of Hollywood culture, with Betty being the sort of ideal people come to, but Diane being the reality of the experience.

I'm not satisfied with any of these however. According to the first DVD the 10 most important clues are:

1. Pay particular attention in the beginning of the film: At least two clues are revealed before the credits.
2. Notice appearances of the red lampshade.
3. Can you hear the title of the film that Adam Kesher is auditioning actresses for? Is it mentioned again?
4. An accident is a terrible event—notice the location of the accident.
5. Who gives a key, and why?
6. Notice the robe, the ashtray, the coffee cup.
7. What is felt, realized and gathered at the Club Silencio?
8. Did talent alone help Camilla?
9. Note the occurrences surrounding the man behind Winkie's.
10. Where is Aunt Ruth?Pay particular attention in the beginning of the film: At least two clues are revealed before the credits.

which may be entirely a subversion. These may not be relevant. I'm not convinced either way.

That's my take anyway.

22 Apr 2020

Quote by TroublesomeBard

which may be entirely a subversion. These may not be relevant. I'm not convinced either way.

That's my take anyway.

Thanks, Leon. I appreciate this. You've reinforced pretty much what I've been mulling over. I'm going to watch it again soon. See if I can spot more clues.

22 Apr 2020

Quote by TroublesomeBard

I'm also not convinced that the Empire are the bad guys in Star Wars, but my theory is much more tenuous on that one.

I'm not convinced that George Lucas thought things through enough for us to ever know who the good guys or bad guys are. Well, except for the Emperor. He's pretty obviously evil. Wel... also destroying planets. That wasn't very nice either.

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22 Apr 2020

So how about McClintock as a pre-feminist political statement from Maureen O'Hara? She's pissed that John Ford let John Wayne take advantage of her in The Quiet Man, and sets herself up to get spanked in public while covered in molasses and feathers to point out the mysoginystic views of Ford and Wayne...

22 Apr 2020

Quote by TroublesomeBard

which may be entirely a subversion. These may not be relevant. I'm not convinced either way.

That's my take anyway.

Quote by LucaByDesign
Thanks, Leon. I appreciate this. You've reinforced pretty much what I've been mulling over. I'm going to watch it again soon. See if I can spot more clues.

I still have this DVD with the "clues" it came with. Bought it new when it was first release and every time I watch this movie I pull out the clues and yeah, I feel that most of them are red herrings.

What I have gathered is that somewhere along the way a split happens and the main character enters a dream state or exists a dream state... The two main actresses are playing the same character but in like mirrored realities or one is dreaming about the other... yeah I know. I think these realities/dreams collide in the club with the woman singing llorando por tu amor and the main character finds her true self? Some shit like that.

I think this is why there is such a strong emphasis on dreams/nightmares in the diner scene with that terrifying homeless man behind the building and him jumping out of the nightmare and into reality. I think lynch is setting up rules for this movie's universe with that scene.

23 Apr 2020

Quote by Magical_felix

I still have this DVD with the "clues" it came with. Bought it new when it was first release and every time I watch this movie I pull out the clues and yeah, I feel that most of them are red herrings.

What I have gathered is that somewhere along the way a split happens and the main character enters a dream state or exists a dream state... The two main actresses are playing the same character but in like mirrored realities or one is dreaming about the other... yeah I know. I think these realities/dreams collide in the club with the woman singing llorando por tu amor and the main character finds her true self? Some shit like that.

I think this is why there is such a strong emphasis on dreams/nightmares in the diner scene with that terrifying homeless man behind the building and him jumping out of the nightmare and into reality. I think lynch is setting up rules for this movie's universe with that scene.

Watching that clip gave me shivers.

I read somewhere that the split you mention is the join between where Lynch had planned to a long running TV series and what it morphed into when the funding failed to materialise. I found the club scene even more emotionally charged than the one you posted. The second time I watched that scene I had my own mini-mystical funny-turn.

23 Apr 2020

This is a fun one... I'll admit, it's a stretch at times but a clever theory. Must have been very stoned when he watched snow-piercer for the first time.

23 Apr 2020

Quote by LucaByDesign

Watching that clip gave me shivers.

I read somewhere that the split you mention is the join between where Lynch had planned to a long running TV series and what it morphed into when the funding failed to materialise. I found the club scene even more emotionally charged than the one you posted. The second time I watched that scene I had my own mini-mystical funny-turn.

Yeah I couldn't remember if that was this one or Inland Empire but yeah... That is the pragmatic explanation for the fuckery happening on screen.

30 Apr 2020

Quote by Magical_felix

I still have this DVD with the "clues" it came with. Bought it new when it was first release and every time I watch this movie I pull out the clues and yeah, I feel that most of them are red herrings.

What I have gathered is that somewhere along the way a split happens and the main character enters a dream state or exists a dream state... The two main actresses are playing the same character but in like mirrored realities or one is dreaming about the other... yeah I know. I think these realities/dreams collide in the club with the woman singing llorando por tu amor and the main character finds her true self? Some shit like that.

I think this is why there is such a strong emphasis on dreams/nightmares in the diner scene with that terrifying homeless man behind the building and him jumping out of the nightmare and into reality. I think lynch is setting up rules for this movie's universe with that scene.

My favorite part of that scene is the ambient silence. The pseudo-jumpscare it ends with is typically accompanied by a crescendo the music, but no ambient sound just makes that so much creepier.

30 Apr 2020

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I'm not convinced that George Lucas thought things through enough for us to ever know who the good guys or bad guys are. Well, except for the Emperor. He's pretty obviously evil. Well... also destroying planets. That wasn't very nice either.

Well hear me out. Are we ever given a reason that the rebellion started? Do we ever see the Empire running the rest of the galaxy poorly? I don't think we are, so far all the information we're given, this is a situation where The Empire decided to increase law enforcement given all the criminality in the galaxy and decided to ban slavery. Or it could be that the Empire wanted a strong centralized government as opposed to planet/state situation, while the rebellion wanted small government/independence for planets.

Basically, I want transcripts of the senate meetings that led up to the rebellion.

1 May 2020

Quote by TroublesomeBard

My favorite part of that scene is the ambient silence. The pseudo-jumpscare it ends with is typically accompanied by a crescendo the music, but no ambient sound just makes that so much creepier.

Fun Fact: The homeless man was actually played by a woman. Another subtle way to create uneasiness.