Leonardo to play Jack the Ripper....

3 Apr 2017

I have been watching some youtube videos about Jack the Ripper, and Americas first and most prolific serial killer, H.H. Holmes...theories have been raised that they are the same person. I've always been fascinated by serial killers. Not their crimes, they're generally brutal and off putting, but what makes them tick? Why do they do what they do?

H.H. Holmes 3x great grandson, Jeff Mudgett, has made an excellent case that his great, great, great grandfather was, indeed, the same person as Jack the Ripper. What do you think? Do serial killers fascinate you?

Maybe we can talk about other evil people besides Trump for a change....

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3 Apr 2017

Composit police drawing of Jack the Ripper from eyewitness accounts

H. H. Holmes

Unbeknownst to festivalgoers at the 1893 Chicago World Fair, there was a mass murderer in their midst. For several years before and during the exposition, Dr. Henry Howard Holmes was busily luring victims (including a number of fairgoers) to a three-story, block-long building called the “Castle,” where they were tortured, mutilated and killed. Although H. H. Holmes’ heinous crimes weren’t discovered until after the fair ended, it’s believed that he was responsible for dozens of deaths in Chicago.

handwritng analysis between Jack the Ripper, and HH Holmes...

Murder Castle

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3 Apr 2017

I think that it is fascinating how many serial killers have the same middle name - Wayne.

3 Apr 2017

Jack the Ripper was British though. That was in London. Though we have plenty of American serial killers to choose from. Yeah, from H. H. Holmes to Ted Bundy, to Jeffery Dalmer to who knows. The FBI says there are usually around 40 serial killers operating around the country at any given time.

4 Apr 2017

For those who are fans of Podcasts, Stuff You Missed in History Class did a great two-part episode on H.H. Holmes and his murder castle. If you don't have an iPod or access to podcasts... here are the links to the two parts. They are well worth the listen.

H.H. Holmes and the Mysteries of the Murder Castle part 1

H.H. Holmes and the Mysteries of the Murder Castle part 2

4 Apr 2017

Is it true that Seattle is America's serial killer capital? cough*Sprite*cough

4 Apr 2017

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Is it true that Seattle is America's serial killer capital? cough*Sprite*cough

Ted Bundy, anyone?

4 Apr 2017

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Is it true that Seattle is America's serial killer capital? cough*Sprite*cough

It's Battle Creek, Michigan.........

That's where Kellog's has its headquarters!

“When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us.”

4 Apr 2017

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Jack the Ripper was British though. That was in London. Though we have plenty of American serial killers to choose from. Yeah, from H. H. Holmes to Ted Bundy, to Jeffery Dalmer to who knows. The FBI says there are usually around 40 serial killers operating around the country at any given time.

Well, he was in London, but it's only been accepted widely he was British. HH Holmes killed in 1887, none in 1888, and began again in 1889. Jack the Rippers murders all took place in 1888.

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4 Apr 2017

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It's Battle Creek, Michigan.........

That's where Kellog's has its headquarters!

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4 Apr 2017

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Is it true that Seattle is America's serial killer capital? cough*Sprite*cough

I have heard of the notorious Disney killer...this deranged individual strangles victims with *gulp*...tangles!!

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4 Apr 2017

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It's Battle Creek, Michigan.........

That's where Kellog's has its headquarters!

They've been killing cereal for a hundred years...

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

4 Apr 2017

I've always been fascinated by serial killers. Have read most of the books on them. book

Serial Killer facts.

"The most prolific female serial killer in history is Elizabeth Bathory (1560–1614). After her husband’s death, she and four collaborators
were accused of torturing and killing hundreds of girls and young women.
One witness places the number at 600 victims, though they were convicted of 80.

While women make up just a very small percentage of serial killers, they constitute the majority of victims: 65%."

4 Apr 2017

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I've always been fascinated by serial killers. Have read most of the books on them.

Serial Killer facts.

"The most prolific female serial killer in history is Elizabeth Bathory (1560–1614). After her husband’s death, she and four collaborators
were accused of torturing and killing hundreds of girls and young women.
One witness places the number at 600 victims, though they were convicted of 80.

While women make up just a very small percentage of serial killers, they constitute the majority of victims: 65%."

Me too. There was a show on I think the ID channel? Anyway, it was called 'Most Evil' with Dr. Michael Stone. It was fascinating. He had developed a scale from 1-22 to catagorize the level of evil.

H.H. Holmes is the most unique ever. Like Nymphwriter mentioned, he had built a 'Murder Castle' in Chicago, and it was ready for guests during the Worlds fair in 1893. I watched a program on Netflix about him, and that was the one and only time I ever had a night terror. He claimed to be as talented at killing as Mozart was at music.

The video I posted makes an excellent case for the Ripper and Holmes to be the same person. Holmes was fascinated by hormones and specifically womens reproductive system (mainly ovaries) because he thought he could find the secret to longevity. Jack the Ripper was disecting women, surgically. Cuts only a Dr. could perform.

Fascinting stuff

I didn't know women made up the majortiy of actual murders! I knew all about her, but still...holy cow

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4 Apr 2017

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Jack the Ripper was British though. That was in London. Though we have plenty of American serial killers to choose from. Yeah, from H. H. Holmes to Ted Bundy, to Jeffery Dalmer to who knows. The FBI says there are usually around 40 serial killers operating around the country at any given time.

Yes, true! If that doesn't make you look over your shoulder while walking to your car, nothing does. I once had someone pull into my driveway right behind me at like 3 in the morning. I stopped and didn't finish pulling into my garage, and thought if I had to I'd back out across my lawn...it turned out to be my neighbor, turning around to park in her own driveway. Stupid bitch scared the shit out of me.

I was, actually, almost abducted by a real serial killer once. I put the story about it on story space if anyone's interested. I was walking home from work when I was 23 and this guy (I found out later he was called 'The Folsum Wolf) James Gregory Marlow. Scary...

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4 Apr 2017

As I recall, Holms bragged that he could have sex with any woman he met. That was part of his secret for prolific serial killing. He was a true artist at seduction. He was also a doctor. His home was designed specifically to be a murder factory.

4 Apr 2017

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As I recall, Holms bragged that he could have sex with any woman he met. That was part of his secret for prolific serial killing. He was a true artist at seduction. He was also a doctor. His home was designed specifically to be a murder factory.

Oh, yeah, that was his Murder Castle in Chicago. He considered himself a savant at killing. I'm including a link about the movie. I guess Leonardo is playing Holmes, but tomato, tomatoe...

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/76155/20150812/martin-scorsese-leonardo-dicaprio-team-up-america-s-first-serial.htm

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4 Apr 2017

Serial Killers do fascinate me--I have my favorites, mainly cannibals but I've read many theories like the one you've brought up.

5 Apr 2017

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Serial Killers do fascinate me--I have my favorites, mainly cannibals but I've read many theories like the one you've brought up.

Oh man! Cannibles freak me out! Albert Fish comes to mind...sick bastard

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5 Apr 2017

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Oh man! Cannibles freak me out! Albert Fish comes to mind...sick bastard

You mean Grandpa Fish? Only known for Grace Budd's nine day feast.

Others that I like:
Andrei Chikatilo
Ed Gein
Armin Meiwes

5 Apr 2017

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What do you think? Do serial killers fascinate you?

Yes! Serial Killers fascinate me so much. I watch documentaries about them and the psychological reasons they do it. I own books about Jeff Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Medieval crime and killers. I am oddly fascinated with that stuff.

5 Apr 2017

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Yes! Serial Killers fascinate me so much. I watch documentaries about them and the psychological reasons they do it. I own books about Jeff Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Medieval crime and killers. I am oddly fascinated with that stuff.

Me too, I watch everything on TV that comes on. I am completely dumbfounded as to why they do what they do? What part of a human is capable of such evil? Ive read a lot of books about them as well, but nothing scared me as much as Helter Skelter. Although, Richard Ramirez has a very intersting backstory.

One that freaks me out and is really interesting is Gary Heidnik. He abducted at least seven women, murdered two of them and one he cooked and ate. He had an IQ of 148, and schizophrenic. He was also one of the inpirations for Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs, but I think that character was based on several different killers, like Ed Gien...creepy!

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You mean Grandpa Fish? Only known for Grace Budd's nine day feast.

Oh GOD! Why would her parents let him 'take her to a birthday party' with him? They didn't even know him. So sad, that poor little girl.

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5 Apr 2017

Between 1977 and 1994, Joseph Naso only killed four women, but all four had alliterative names - their first and last names both began with the same letters.

6 Apr 2017

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Between 1977 and 1994, Joseph Naso only killed four women, but all four had alliterative names - their first and last names both began with the same letters.

I've never heard of him, but I'll look him up. Wikipedia has an entire list of them, and their gruesome crimes

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7 Apr 2017

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For those who are fans of Podcasts, Stuff You Missed in History Class did a great two-part episode on H.H. Holmes and his murder castle. If you don't have an iPod or access to podcasts... here are the links to the two parts. They are well worth the listen.

H.H. Holmes and the Mysteries of the Murder Castle part 1

H.H. Holmes and the Mysteries of the Murder Castle part 2

Thanks for the links, I'm listening to them now. I learned about Belle Guness from this podcast. She was *actually the first American serial killers, with 25-40 victims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gunness

*edit-sorry, not the first. Her murders spanned between 1900-1908

http://www.ranker.com/list/theories-h-h-holmes-and-jack-the-ripper-were-the-same-person/cristina-sanza

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10 Apr 2017

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Thanks for the links, I'm listening to them now. I learned about Belle Guness from this podcast. She was *actually the first American serial killers, with 25-40 victims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gunness

*edit-sorry, not the first. Her murders spanned between 1900-1908

http://www.ranker.com/list/theories-h-h-holmes-and-jack-the-ripper-were-the-same-person/cristina-sanza

Happy to share the links. And yes... I've heard the theory that HH Holmes and Jack the Ripper might be the same person... but there is other evidence that they are not the same... but there is a theory that Jack did come to the US and continue his murders.

10 Apr 2017

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Oh, yeah, that was his Murder Castle in Chicago. He considered himself a savant at killing. I'm including a link about the movie. I guess Leonardo is playing Holmes, but tomato, tomatoe...

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/76155/20150812/martin-scorsese-leonardo-dicaprio-team-up-america-s-first-serial.htm

There is a GREAT book about this called Devil in the White City, which is about Holmes, and the World's Fair, which was happening at the same time. I lovd that book so much I gave it out as a gift to like five different people. Impossible to put down.

I can't imagine Leonardo playing a serial killer. Or anything else. I just don't like him as an actor.

10 Apr 2017

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Happy to share the links. And yes... I've heard the theory that HH Holmes and Jack the Ripper might be the same person... but there is other evidence that they are not the same... but there is a theory that Jack did come to the US and continue his murders.

Yeah, my thought on this has changed. I was comparing handwriting between the two, and Jack the Ripper wrote very differently in his verbage. He wrote with a cockney accent i.e.: You though (thought) I...and the use of the word 'reckon' and so on. So, the mystery continues.
I do know one of the suspects was a north American, as well as an Austraiian suspect with the last name of Deeming.

Interesting stuff.

Jack the Ripper letter (chilling!)

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There is a GREAT book about this called Devil in the White City, which is about Holmes, and the World's Fair, which was happening at the same time. I lovd that book so much I gave it out as a gift to like five different people. Impossible to put down.

I can't imagine Leonardo playing a serial killer. Or anything else. I just don't like him as an actor.

I think Leonardo will be a good choice, tbh. Sorry Verbal smile

I must disagree...although, I get not liking him. I do, but there are some actors I just don't like for certain roles. I still have issue with Tom Cruise as the Vampire Lestat...and that last guy in Queen of the Damned. I mean, come ON. Lestat was BLONDE. LOL, sorry, went on a tangent there. Not sure if you ever read the Vampire Chronicles, but I'd bet you, as most of us here, have.

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18 Apr 2017

no

26 Apr 2017

I am a Discovery ID "Murder Shows' addict.

So many serial killers, but 2 of the most chilling for me are Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, maybe because I watched the discovery of their crimes on TV. They made torture/murder tapes of their sex slaves, and among other random murders, touched celebrity, as one of them (Lake I think) murdered Elvin Bishop's daughter.

Yet Lake didn't even make the top 10 here:

http://www.ranker.com/list/most-prolific-american-serial-killers/ranker-crime