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10 hours of walking in nyc as a woman
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Her Royal Spriteness
Being sexually harassed? Damn straight it would bother me.
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
Her Royal Spriteness
btw, this is the follow up...
Well, it's fucking depressing to say it was bound to happen but considering the state of the world, it really was: the woman who starred in Hollaback's viral street harassment video has reportedly been getting threats in the comments of the video on YouTube.
The video stars Shoshanna B. Roberts, a New York-based actress. Not long after it went up Tuesday, Hollaback tweeted, "The subject of our PSA is starting to get threats on the comments. Can you help by reporting them?"
This is one case, however, where a platform actually appears to have responded swiftly to calls of threats: Hollaback deputy director Debjani Roy told AMNY that the comments were "being deleted."
The video has garnered over a million views and over 27,000 comments. Recently posted negative ones (presented for you sic) are about what one could expect: "Harassment is defined as unwanted behavior. This woman said NOTHING so how could the guys know that they were harassing her? Fuck this bitch and her campaign to get money to stop men from simply talking to her in public" and "VERBAL HARASSMENT ? WHAT !? This woman should feel good about all these compliments she received. Yeah some guys were acting all weird and creepy but NOBODY TOUCHED HER. Fucking feminists, women these days threat compliments as sexual harassment ?"
Well, it's fucking depressing to say it was bound to happen but considering the state of the world, it really was: the woman who starred in Hollaback's viral street harassment video has reportedly been getting threats in the comments of the video on YouTube.
The video stars Shoshanna B. Roberts, a New York-based actress. Not long after it went up Tuesday, Hollaback tweeted, "The subject of our PSA is starting to get threats on the comments. Can you help by reporting them?"
This is one case, however, where a platform actually appears to have responded swiftly to calls of threats: Hollaback deputy director Debjani Roy told AMNY that the comments were "being deleted."
The video has garnered over a million views and over 27,000 comments. Recently posted negative ones (presented for you sic) are about what one could expect: "Harassment is defined as unwanted behavior. This woman said NOTHING so how could the guys know that they were harassing her? Fuck this bitch and her campaign to get money to stop men from simply talking to her in public" and "VERBAL HARASSMENT ? WHAT !? This woman should feel good about all these compliments she received. Yeah some guys were acting all weird and creepy but NOBODY TOUCHED HER. Fucking feminists, women these days threat compliments as sexual harassment ?"
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
I don't think all of it was harassment.
Being called beautiful, and nothing else, I don't see that as a bad thing.
I feel badly most for her feet. 10 hours if walking? She should have worn more comfortable shoes.
If you call someone beautiful or hot and say nothing else, isn't that just giving your opinion?
For the record, her shirt does show all of her curves.
I hate her outfit. Sorry.
Being called beautiful, and nothing else, I don't see that as a bad thing.
I feel badly most for her feet. 10 hours if walking? She should have worn more comfortable shoes.
If you call someone beautiful or hot and say nothing else, isn't that just giving your opinion?
For the record, her shirt does show all of her curves.
I hate her outfit. Sorry.
Her Royal Spriteness
a couple of the comments were actually sweet - i will often wish strangers a nice day, just cause, but some of it was creepy, specially the guys who decided to follow/walk along side her - was it me, i'd be figuring out they were waiting until i turned down a side street with less traffic... 
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
Rainbow Warrior
Sometimes it bothers me, when they get creepy (like the guy who shadowed her for 5 minutes!) Most guys just want a friendly acknowledgement from a pretty girl, and I usually smile and say 'hi', but some guys take that as an invitation to be pests, so you never know what to do. Being stone-cold silent like the actress in the video just seems to attract more derisive attention than if she'd just been a little friendly. I live in a small college town and pretty girls are everywhere, and they usually don't get bothered, but when I go to big cities, I have to get used to running the gauntlet.
Gravelly-Voiced Fucker
Interesting Slate article on whether it was racist or not (since they seem to have edited out all the white guys harassing her):
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/29/catcalling_video_hollaback_s_look_at_street_harassment_in_nyc_edited_out.html
Impossible to know because we can't see the unedited footage. But interesting.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/29/catcalling_video_hollaback_s_look_at_street_harassment_in_nyc_edited_out.html
Impossible to know because we can't see the unedited footage. But interesting.
Quote by BethanyFrasier
Sometimes it bothers me, when they get creepy (like the guy who shadowed her for 5 minutes!) Most guys just want a friendly acknowledgement from a pretty girl, and I usually smile and say 'hi', but some guys take that as an invitation to be pests, so you never know what to do. Being stone-cold silent like the actress in the video just seems to attract more derisive attention than if she'd just been a little friendly. I live in a small college town and pretty girls are everywhere, and they usually don't get bothered, but when I go to big cities, I have to get used to running the gauntlet.
if someone was walking beside me like that I would slow down to see if he did.. and if he did I would stop to see if he did.. and if he also stopped I would ask him if he was stalking me.. jokingly..
then, depending on the reply... a "please don't scare the hell out of me
" conversation .. with giggles of course .. or alarm ... or pepper spray.. or shoot him I suppose...I live in NY but have never walked alone there ... obviously .... so this reduces the pavement body count I suppose .. but even accompanied I still find people talk to me... and I to them .. :D
I have yet to feel unsafe there..
Active Ink Slinger
I've seen this on a few sites and the comments left with some people saying, "she should be thankful for the attention, she won't get any when she's older" or "she's wearing a tight top, she deserves what she gets" is beyond appalling and downright disgusting. I feel so ashamed for them because they obviously don't get it.
It's sickening to see this going on and people STILL condoning it.
This happens in small towns all the time, too. It's not just a big city problem. Except in small towns they know where you live and they'll invite themselves in, so you don't even have to walk down the street.
How's that for feeling safe?
** One more thing. What if the woman didn't speak or understand english? Would that still give her the "right" to not answer these assholes? Even if they were being nice and telling her to have a nice day, or that she's beautiful?
It's sickening to see this going on and people STILL condoning it.
This happens in small towns all the time, too. It's not just a big city problem. Except in small towns they know where you live and they'll invite themselves in, so you don't even have to walk down the street.
How's that for feeling safe?
** One more thing. What if the woman didn't speak or understand english? Would that still give her the "right" to not answer these assholes? Even if they were being nice and telling her to have a nice day, or that she's beautiful?
Raised on Blackroot
Know what? I didn't notice it the first time while watching this, but this video is a crock of shit and not for the reason you may be thinking. Then again, journalism/marketing in this day and age is seeped in rotten shit. Worse still is hackery like this. Or case-study. Or whatever the fuck they want to call this.
The message is fine, necessary even, but did anyone notice that the most egregious offenders in this failed attempt are black or latino? Or that, fuck, most if not all of the perpetrators of the foul BS directed toward the white woman fall under those two groups of people? Coincidence? I think not.
It took a quality thing people probably don't realize (an attractive woman walking through a crowded metropolitan area and can't do so freely without catcalls and creepy guys following her) and drowned it in fucked up racial politics.
They say it was unintended, but apparently this isn't the first time this marketing agency has done this.
I'm all for advocacy of the real world but... the lack of reality is so horribly misconstrued that it becomes hilarious.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/29/catcalling_video_hollaback_s_look_at_street_harassment_in_nyc_edited_out.html
The message is fine, necessary even, but did anyone notice that the most egregious offenders in this failed attempt are black or latino? Or that, fuck, most if not all of the perpetrators of the foul BS directed toward the white woman fall under those two groups of people? Coincidence? I think not.
It took a quality thing people probably don't realize (an attractive woman walking through a crowded metropolitan area and can't do so freely without catcalls and creepy guys following her) and drowned it in fucked up racial politics.
They say it was unintended, but apparently this isn't the first time this marketing agency has done this.
I'm all for advocacy of the real world but... the lack of reality is so horribly misconstrued that it becomes hilarious.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/29/catcalling_video_hollaback_s_look_at_street_harassment_in_nyc_edited_out.html
Gravelly-Voiced Fucker
Quote by MadMartigan
Know what? I didn't notice it the first time while watching this, but this video is a crock of shit and not for the reason you may be thinking. Then again, journalism/marketing in this day and age is seeped in rotten shit. Worse still is hackery like this. Or case-study. Or whatever the fuck they want to call this.
The message is fine, necessary even, but did anyone notice that the most egregious offenders in this failed attempt are black or latino? Or that, fuck, most if not all of the perpetrators of the foul BS directed toward the white woman fall under those two groups of people? Coincidence? I think not.
It took a quality thing people probably don't realize (an attractive woman walking through a crowded metropolitan area and can't do so freely without catcalls and creepy guys following her) and drowned it in fucked up racial politics.
They say it was unintended, but apparently this isn't the first time this marketing agency has done this.
I'm all for advocacy of the real world but... the lack of reality is so horribly misconstrued that it becomes hilarious.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/29/catcalling_video_hollaback_s_look_at_street_harassment_in_nyc_edited_out.html
Word.
Active Ink Slinger
I don't live too far from NYC and have spent a lot of time there over the years and I have received my share of catcalls and a few crude comments. But I have never felt threatened by any of them. Most were just whistles or more complimentary comments. But I have never had anyone follow me like the woman in the video. That would freak me out and make me glad I took all those kickboxing lessons.
As long as they keep their distance and the remarks are not really derogatory, then so be it. Right or wrong, I deal with it. Maybe I am more thick skinned than many women but it really doesn't bother me. I have more important things to worry about then some guy commenting on something he probably wouldn't know what to do with if he got his hands on it, LOL!!
BTW, this type of behavior is not limited to NYC. It happens in all cities, big and small.
As long as they keep their distance and the remarks are not really derogatory, then so be it. Right or wrong, I deal with it. Maybe I am more thick skinned than many women but it really doesn't bother me. I have more important things to worry about then some guy commenting on something he probably wouldn't know what to do with if he got his hands on it, LOL!!
BTW, this type of behavior is not limited to NYC. It happens in all cities, big and small.
Active Ink Slinger
I have not spent a lot of time in NYC so I do not know of what you speak.
But other large cities have a similar problems. If it was just staring or remarks, I would not be bothered. However, if he were to follow me that would be very different.
I was trained by a former Navy Seal and it the guy continued to follow me he would be in great danger of getting his ass kicked. Pain will almost always dissuade a stalker.
But other large cities have a similar problems. If it was just staring or remarks, I would not be bothered. However, if he were to follow me that would be very different.
I was trained by a former Navy Seal and it the guy continued to follow me he would be in great danger of getting his ass kicked. Pain will almost always dissuade a stalker.