I posted a guided masturbation writing with an author's note at the beginning of the story. I think it is vital that the writing has the note at the beginning. Someone moved it to the end of the story without consulting me. This fundamentally changes how people will read it. Had I known that this change would have been made I would have insisted that the story not be posted. How can anyone arbitrarily change someone's writing without consulting the author first. This is a huge violation of my intellectual property and completely unacceptable. What gives anyone the right to make changes to my writing? Who else have you done that to? Where does it say anywhere on this site that you reserve the right to make changes to people's writings? The author's note belongs at the beginning to help people understand what they are reading. Without it, all kinds of wrong assumptions can be made.
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Huge issue with mods making changes to my story
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Furthermore, I want to know which Mod or Mods made the decision to make changes without consulting me. I want to understand who told them they could do that as a mod. In the past when a mod had a change they needed made they came to me and talked to me about it first.
Note** Someone has just informed me that you have a rule that notes must go at the end. Why? Why is that the case? Why make a rule like that? Shouldn't it be up to the author when it is the right time to reveal information to the reader? Why do you get to do that? If you insist on taking my creative license away from me and forcing me to put vital information at the end of the story instead of the beginning (where it is needed) then I should at the very least have the right to decline posting it here. I never would have allowed that writing to be seen by anyone without the note at the beginning. Doing so would have been irresponsible.
What if I want to use trigger warnings? Do I need to put that at the end too? "Hey, here is your warning that if you don't like consensual non consent stories don't read this. Oh, by the way. I know it's at the end of the story. Ha... sorry for triggering you."
All sarcasm aside, I like writing about things that make people uncomfortable. I like writing things that push boundaries and limits. Ever since I have been writing erotica I have used author's notes and trigger warnings to help prepare the reader for what they are in for. I know I'm just some asshole on the internet to most of you. But I am a real person. I care about how I affect people. I think about how my writing might hurt someone, and I try to take every precaution to avoid that. I'm so furious. I probably shouldn't be sitting at my desk typing to everyone who doesn't give a fuck about me. I'm embarrassed. I feel wronged. I feel violated. I feel assaulted. Whoever made that change to my writing harmed me and everyone who read it. People may have all kinds of opinions as to how good of a writer I am. Fine, great, whatever. I'm shit. I suck. But one thing I can promise is no one on this site chooses their words more carefully than I do when it comes to writing. The person who changed my piece has no idea what they did. That decision totally transformed it. Not a little bit. Not 10% not 25 or 50%. Whoever did it changed it 100%. They might as well of deleted everything and rewrote it themselves. I wish I could understand how someone could do that to me. I can't. I won't. I probably never will.
Note** Someone has just informed me that you have a rule that notes must go at the end. Why? Why is that the case? Why make a rule like that? Shouldn't it be up to the author when it is the right time to reveal information to the reader? Why do you get to do that? If you insist on taking my creative license away from me and forcing me to put vital information at the end of the story instead of the beginning (where it is needed) then I should at the very least have the right to decline posting it here. I never would have allowed that writing to be seen by anyone without the note at the beginning. Doing so would have been irresponsible.
What if I want to use trigger warnings? Do I need to put that at the end too? "Hey, here is your warning that if you don't like consensual non consent stories don't read this. Oh, by the way. I know it's at the end of the story. Ha... sorry for triggering you."
All sarcasm aside, I like writing about things that make people uncomfortable. I like writing things that push boundaries and limits. Ever since I have been writing erotica I have used author's notes and trigger warnings to help prepare the reader for what they are in for. I know I'm just some asshole on the internet to most of you. But I am a real person. I care about how I affect people. I think about how my writing might hurt someone, and I try to take every precaution to avoid that. I'm so furious. I probably shouldn't be sitting at my desk typing to everyone who doesn't give a fuck about me. I'm embarrassed. I feel wronged. I feel violated. I feel assaulted. Whoever made that change to my writing harmed me and everyone who read it. People may have all kinds of opinions as to how good of a writer I am. Fine, great, whatever. I'm shit. I suck. But one thing I can promise is no one on this site chooses their words more carefully than I do when it comes to writing. The person who changed my piece has no idea what they did. That decision totally transformed it. Not a little bit. Not 10% not 25 or 50%. Whoever did it changed it 100%. They might as well of deleted everything and rewrote it themselves. I wish I could understand how someone could do that to me. I can't. I won't. I probably never will.
I've just had a quick look at this. You could have sent the moderator a quick pm and they would have explained why. I understand your frustration but mods do a great job and are here to help.
Your authors note is telling readers how your story should be read. You explain about the nature of the story. This is covered in the fact that you have put this in the category. Lastly, there is further information for the reader to state that should the note be removed to the bottom that isn't your intention. No need to state that.
I think there is usually only about 7 lines that shows on the front page until someone clicks to read your story. You could fully utilise this section to give your readers a juicy preview of your work rather than information that is already apparent.
Your authors note is telling readers how your story should be read. You explain about the nature of the story. This is covered in the fact that you have put this in the category. Lastly, there is further information for the reader to state that should the note be removed to the bottom that isn't your intention. No need to state that.
I think there is usually only about 7 lines that shows on the front page until someone clicks to read your story. You could fully utilise this section to give your readers a juicy preview of your work rather than information that is already apparent.
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I've just had a quick look at this. You could have sent the moderator a quick pm and they would have explained why. I understand your frustration but mods do a great job and are here to help.
Your authors note is telling readers how your story should be read. You explain about the nature of the story. This is covered in the fact that you have put this in the category. Lastly, there is further information for the reader to state that should the note be removed to the bottom that isn't your intention. No need to state that.
I think there is usually only about 7 lines that shows on the front page until someone clicks to read your story. You could fully utilise this section to give your readers a juicy preview of your work rather than information that is already apparent.
All due respect it isn't your place to tell me what I should be doing to help it be more "juicy in the preview." I think it is a little more important to protect the reader from misunderstanding the writing. You have your values. I have mine. Please don't try to get me to change them. I wont. Not for anyone.
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I've just had a quick look at this. You could have sent the moderator a quick pm and they would have explained why. I understand your frustration but mods do a great job and are here to help.
Your authors note is telling readers how your story should be read. You explain about the nature of the story. This is covered in the fact that you have put this in the category. Lastly, there is further information for the reader to state that should the note be removed to the bottom that isn't your intention. No need to state that.
I think there is usually only about 7 lines that shows on the front page until someone clicks to read your story. You could fully utilise this section to give your readers a juicy preview of your work rather than information that is already apparent.
Also, the note you are seeing is not the original note. It is the new and improved one to make it clear to anyone who would change my writing without consulting me first that it is unwelcomed. I didn't think this was something I had to do, but I was proven wrong.
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All due respect it isn't your place to tell me what I should be doing to help it be more "juicy in the preview." I think it is a little more important to protect the reader from misunderstanding the writing. You have your values. I have mine. Please don't try to get me to change them. I wont. Not for anyone.
It was a polite suggestion and I'm mostly certainly not trying to get you to change your values. I was merely just trying to give a possible explanation. Hopefully, it will be resolved soon for you.
Coco Pop
Lushstories.com has the right, but not the obligation, to monitor the content, and reserves the right to remove any portion of the content at any time.
The above is from the lush stories terms and conditions which EVERYONE should read, not just people who are (understandably) protective about their writing.
As it is, we have a rule that notes go at the end. Why? So they don't clutter up the start of the story and hence the homepage. Can you imagine scrolling through the front page to see all openings delayed by some boring note? We are considering adding a separate box for notes but nothing is certain yet.
Your story was in and I think the title of it was enough to warn people of the content they were reading. Furthermore, a moderator went through the effort of reading it free of charge so it could be posted. I think it's very ungrateful of anyone to post something like this in a public forum when all the moderator was doing was complying with site rules and actually trying to present your story in a way that would gain more interest.
You may have your values and that's fair enough, but to be rude to people who are helping you is unacceptable. This really isn't an issue that warrants your reaction. You could have messaged the moderator who verified the story in order to raise your concerns.
Nobody has personally attacked you. Moderators edit and fix stories all the time. The majority of authors are grateful for it.
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The above is from the lush stories terms and conditions which EVERYONE should read, not just people who are (understandably) protective about their writing.
As it is, we have a rule that notes go at the end. Why? So they don't clutter up the start of the story and hence the homepage. Can you imagine scrolling through the front page to see all openings delayed by some boring note? We are considering adding a separate box for notes but nothing is certain yet.
Your story was in and I think the title of it was enough to warn people of the content they were reading. Furthermore, a moderator went through the effort of reading it free of charge so it could be posted. I think it's very ungrateful of anyone to post something like this in a public forum when all the moderator was doing was complying with site rules and actually trying to present your story in a way that would gain more interest.
You may have your values and that's fair enough, but to be rude to people who are helping you is unacceptable. This really isn't an issue that warrants your reaction. You could have messaged the moderator who verified the story in order to raise your concerns.
Nobody has personally attacked you. Moderators edit and fix stories all the time. The majority of authors are grateful for it.
What the mod did was change the story. Not edit it. Without the note in the begining and addressing the age of the characters involved the story is inappropriate to post anywhere.
According to the terms you reserve the right to remove any portion you want. It doesn’t say anything about changing people’s writings. The way the words read in the submission rules it leaves the impression that removing content is for the purposes of removing inappropriate content. It doesn’t say that you reserve the right to edit and change peopel’s works.
“Lushstories.com has the right, but not the obligation, to monitor the content, and reserves the right to remove any portion of the content at any time.” If it said after that, “we also reserve the right to change your work without asking you.” You might have a point. This isn’t a case of the mod fixing a “your” or a “there” this is the case of a mod changing the nature of what I wrote, the intent that I had.
“Lushstories.com has the right, but not the obligation, to monitor the content, and reserves the right to remove any portion of the content at any time.” If it said after that, “we also reserve the right to change your work without asking you.” You might have a point. This isn’t a case of the mod fixing a “your” or a “there” this is the case of a mod changing the nature of what I wrote, the intent that I had.
Convict
When I read the story, my immediate thought was that the “disclaimer” should’ve been at the top. Without reading that first, i believe it completely changed the context of the writing. After talking with a couple of people about it, I found out I wasn’t the only one who thought this.
Whenever a mod has made a big change in a story of mine they’ve told me or asked me before it goes up. How can you say those sorts of warnings belong at the bottom of a story every time? Every story is different.
I don’t think he was mod bashing or rude at all, I think he’s got a valid point. It was a warning that it could be a trigger, he put it there to protect those it might upset. It’s no good at the bottom of a story.
Instead of getting all defensive, maybe try to see how important it was that the para stayed where it was? I don’t think it’s very difficult to see that.
Whenever a mod has made a big change in a story of mine they’ve told me or asked me before it goes up. How can you say those sorts of warnings belong at the bottom of a story every time? Every story is different.
I don’t think he was mod bashing or rude at all, I think he’s got a valid point. It was a warning that it could be a trigger, he put it there to protect those it might upset. It’s no good at the bottom of a story.
Instead of getting all defensive, maybe try to see how important it was that the para stayed where it was? I don’t think it’s very difficult to see that.
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When I read the story, my immediate thought was that the “disclaimer” should’ve been at the top. Without reading that first, i believe it completely changed the context of the writing. After talking with a couple of people about it, I found out I wasn’t the only one who thought this.
Whenever a mod has made a big change in a story of mine they’ve told me or asked me before it goes up. How can you say those sorts of warnings belong at the bottom of a story every time? Every story is different.
I don’t think he was mod bashing or rude at all, I think he’s got a valid point. It was a warning that it could be a trigger, he put it there to protect those it might upset. It’s no good at the bottom of a story.
Instead of getting all defensive, maybe try to see how important it was that the para stayed where it was? I don’t think it’s very difficult to see that.
You are not the only person who told me that. I’ve had at least one other person who said they were uncomfortable and would have felt better if the note had been at the beginning. And I beleive a third person told you the same thing.
It’s not a normal story. There isn't a narrative. There is no way to addrsss the age of the character in the writing because the age changes with the age of the reader. The only way to appropriately do it is at the beginning of the wiritng with a note. I’m with you, browncoffee. I’m against notes for stories. If you need a note it should probably be in the story. But because this is different, that wasn’t possible. That’s why I start the writing (after the note) by saying “this is not a story.”
Matriarch
Although we have a set of "Style" rules concerning authors' notes (preferred at the end, for the reasons states above), of course there should be some degree of flexibility.
We are in the process of working out the best way to move forward, with this in mind. Ongoing discussions have been underway for a few weeks now.
The most likely option will be that an author may place their notes at either the beginning or end of a story, but those notes will not be visible in the excerpts shown on the front page.
I think that's the best option going forward.
I'll take a look at your particular story tomorrow and be in touch.
We are in the process of working out the best way to move forward, with this in mind. Ongoing discussions have been underway for a few weeks now.
The most likely option will be that an author may place their notes at either the beginning or end of a story, but those notes will not be visible in the excerpts shown on the front page.
I think that's the best option going forward.
I'll take a look at your particular story tomorrow and be in touch.
If you can’t understand why I am upset after people came to me and said they were made uncomfortale by something I wrote, why it made me furious that I anticipated this and took measures to correct it, only to have someone arbitrarily ruin it without asking me about, I am probably wasting my time. I guess I was hoping for empathy, and understanding that it hurts me to wonder how many other people were negatively effected by what i wrote. It hurts me to know I was the cause of someone’s discomfort. I didn’t know mods changed stories whenever they wanted. I don’t see anything that would indicate that in the submission guidelines. Previously, I’ve had a mod reject a story because a quotation mark was out of place. She asked ME to change it and then she posted it. I don’t think I’m insane for something as serious as moving parts of a writing around would be run by the author. I don’t think it’s unreasonable. I don’t think me having strong feelings about this is unwarranted. Reject my writings all day long. Don’t make changes to it. In my life I’ve been rejected by more woman and more literary journals than days I've been alive. You might say I am the Tom Brady of taking rejection. If you’re not into American Football that is like being the Cristiano Ronaldo of taking rejection. I am probably the Donald Trump of having my writing changed without my permission.
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Although we have a set of "Style" rules concerning authors' notes (preferred at the end, for the reasons states above), of course there should be some degree of flexibility.
We are in the process of working out the best way to move forward, with this in mind. Ongoing discussions have been underway for a few weeks now.
The most likely option will be that an author may place their notes at either the beginning or end of a story, but those notes will not be visible in the excerpts shown on the front page.
I think that's the best option going forward.
I'll take a look at your particular story tomorrow and be in touch.
Thank you, my previous comment was made before I saw your post.
Coco Pop
I have no issues with your strong feelings. But if I were you, I would have simply messaged the verifying moderator with your concerns.
I hope the story is up soon.
I hope the story is up soon.
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I have no issues with your strong feelings. But if I were you, I would have simply messaged the verifying moderator with your concerns.
I hope the story is up soon.
I can understand why you as a mod feels that way, and what your saying isn’t lost on me. But making the point that I didn’t go about addressing my grievance in the best way possible is really just a way to completely ignore my grievance.
Scarlet Seductress
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I can understand why you as a mod feels that way, and what your saying isn’t lost on me. But making the point that I didn’t go about addressing my grievance in the best way possible is really just a way to completely ignore my grievance.
Your grievance has already been acknowledge and is being addressed, therefore it isn’t being completely ignored. Her point is valid. Messaging the moderator who processed your story submission would have been a better way to handle this. It’s what most people do as a first course of action.
