Which improvements or features would you like to see added?

16 Jul 2014

Quote by Possibly
Wow, that's interesting, Liz. So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that this site awards stories for automated bot and crawling search engine activity?

It's not possible to filter out all bots/crawlers. Some well known ones may be easy to detect, but many aren't. It's just the reality of web visitor analytics.

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by Liz

I think you've missed my point somewhat regarding the stats.

If I've understood your original post correctly, you would like to work out what percentage of people reading your stories are actually commenting. You've also stated that you have your stories set to only allow comments from registered Lush members. In order for these stats to make any sense, you would need to disallow all 'views' on your stories where commenting was either not possible (non-registered members and mobile site viewers), or not applicable (automated hits from bots or search engine spiders). If you don't, you'll will have polluted your calculation and will never have any kind of representative sample.

As for the bots/spiders, I'm sure in the grand scheme of things that their impact on the figures is miniscule.

No, I understand your point quite well. Just to clarify, I turned on the setting 'only members can vote on my story'.

And no, I think there's a little confusion with my 'suggestion'. I'd like to see two percentages on the story:

1. Votes-to-views to show how many people are moved to vote.
2. Comments-to-views to show how many people are moved to comment.

I simply used two examples of 'votes-to-views' to show the percentage outcomes. I am not looking for a vote-to-comment percentage.

Question: What is the definition of a view? Is it how many times someone 'reads' the story? Or is it how many times the page's been hit?

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by BiMale73

That makes sense, but if I understand Plunger's post correctly, then the site says he's still in the chat room (I guess under the "Who's online?" link on the chat index page) when he's not and can't get in.
Perhaps it's a cache issue.

I tested this myself and it logged me out fine. Not sure why it would still show him in the room if he navigates out.

Possibly a cache issue.

Opening any other pages in a new tab solves his problem though smile

16 Jul 2014

Quote by BiMale73

It's not possible to filter out all bots/crawlers. Some well known ones may be easy to detect, but many aren't. It's just the reality of web visitor analytics.

Thanks for the information!

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by Possibly

No, I understand your point quite well. Just to clarify, I turned on the setting 'only members can vote on my story'.

And no, I think there's a little confusion with my 'suggestion'. I'd like to see two percentages on the story:

1. Votes-to-views to show how many people are moved to vote.
2. Comments-to-views to show how many people are moved to comment.

I simply used two examples of 'votes-to-views' to show the percentage outcomes. I am not looking for a vote-to-comment percentage.

Question: What is the definition of a view? Is it how many times someone 'reads' the story? Or is it how many times the page's been hit?

It doesn't matter, the same principal applies. You would still need to eliminate all 'views' that were unable to vote, in order for any stat to tell you anything.

Let's say you had 1,000 views on a story, but only 100 of those were from people actually capable of voting on it. Let's also say that all 100 people who clicked on it, read it and scored on it. Your 'votes-to-views' stat should be 100%, but in reality it would show only 10%. That's because it is still taking into account all the people that viewed the story from the mobile site, from the android app, etc...

In answer to your question, it would obviously be page hits (most likely unique) because a computer is never going to know if a story was actually read or not.

16 Jul 2014

Quote by Liz

It doesn't matter, the same principal applies. You would still need to eliminate all 'views' that were unable to vote in order for any stat to tell you anything.

Let's say you had 1,000 views on a story, but only 100 of those were from people actually capable of voting on it. Let's also say that all 100 people who clicked on it, read it and scored on it. Your 'votes-to-views' stat should be 100%, but in reality it would show only 10%. That's because it is still taking into account all the people that viewed the story from the mobile site, from the android app, etc...

In answer to your question, it would obviously be page hits (most likely unique) because a computer is never going to know if a story was actually read or not.

I understand. So, I ask again,

Quote by Possibly

So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that this site awards stories for automated bot and crawling search engine activity?

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by Possibly
I understand. So, I ask again,

I believe both myself and BiMale73 have covered this for you.

The impact of any automated hits is likely minuscule, and I'm sure impossible to filter out of the server stats.

16 Jul 2014

Quote by Liz

I believe both myself and BiMale73 have covered this for you.

The impact of any automated hits is likely minuscule, and I'm sure impossible to filter out of the server stats.

Lol. Okay, Liz. Thank you. He didn't say that the hits were minuscule, but I got my answer. Thanks again.

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by Possibly
Lol. Okay, Liz. Thank you. He didn't say that the hits were minuscule, but I got my answer. Thanks again.

Even that can be hard to measure. But in case of Lush, with its many users, it's safe to say that it is indeed miniscule. For my own unmaintained website the majority of visits probably are bots and crawlers Embarassed

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by BiMale73

Even that can be hard to measure. But in case of Lush, with its many users, it's safe to say that it is indeed miniscule. For my own unmaintained website the majority of visits probably are bots and crawlers

Thanks for the clarification!

Liz, and BiMale73, thanks for the healthy discussion. I learned a lot!

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by Liz

I tested this myself and it logged me out fine. Not sure why it would still show him in the room if he navigates out.

Possibly a cache issue.

Opening any other pages in a new tab solves his problem though

This happens alot on mobile devises and in the instance that the room got full as you were entering.....for example if there is 24 member in there and 2 try at the same time, the count moves to 26 you are in there (well it says so) and you have a blue chat room that looks half loaded and you can do or see nothing. you have to refresh and basically wait till the people leave.

16 Jul 2014

Quote by TxPrincess
This happens alot on mobile devises and in the instance that the room got full as you were entering.....for example if there is 24 member in there and 2 try at the same time, the count moves to 26 you are in there (well it says so) and you have a blue chat room that looks half loaded and you can do or see nothing. you have to refresh and basically wait till the people leave.

Sounds like a race condition.

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16 Jul 2014

I had a quick scroll through the previous sixty nine pages and couldn't see this query.

Would it be possible to be able to open another tab (or window) from Lush, like the one that opens when you add to your reading queue?

This is really useful if you open a message from someone and want to see their profile at the same time without losing the mail.

Of course we can still open two tabs from our browsers, but it is time comsuming and I don't always remember.

Thanks

Abi

16 Jul 2014

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16 Jul 2014

Quote by Jayne33

I've just noticed it as well and really like the idea. It's a great way to be able to say thank you for commenting.

I have to respectfully disagree. I think it's a lazy way to say thank you for a comment. If someone takes the time to not only read a story but also leave a thoughtful comment, I think a little more effort than a mouse click is in order - a brief message, a profile page post, even a black box. I suppose we all have our own ideas about what constitutes good manners, and I realize that I'm probably in the minority on this one, but when I receive my own words back by way of thanks I can't help wondering why the sender even bothered. I don't always get around to it as quickly as I should, and I'm sure I've dropped the ball a few times, but I do feel it's important to let my readers know I appreciate them. I've met some interesting people in the process. By the way, the Timeline makes it really easy to keep track of those kinds of things when I do fall behind. Anyway, just my two cents.

17 Jul 2014

Quote by fantasylady
Would it be possible to be able to open another tab (or window) from Lush, like the one that opens when you add to your reading queue?

This is really useful if you open a message from someone and want to see their profile at the same time without losing the mail.

Of course we can still open two tabs from our browsers, but it is time comsuming and I don't always remember.

Open link in a new tab:
Windows: CTRL + click on link
OS X: CMD + click on link
Or you can use the option in the context menu (right click on link)

The thing is: sometimes you will want this, other times not, some users want this, others not. Given the options above, each user can open any link the way (s)he wants.

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17 Jul 2014

Quote by Tashtego

I have to respectfully disagree. I think it's a lazy way to say thank you for a comment. If someone takes the time to not only read a story but also leave a thoughtful comment, I think a little more effort than a mouse click is in order - a brief message, a profile page post, even a black box. I suppose we all have our own ideas about what constitutes good manners, and I realize that I'm probably in the minority on this one, but when I receive my own words back by way of thanks I can't help wondering why the sender even bothered. I don't always get around to it as quickly as I should, and I'm sure I've dropped the ball a few times, but I do feel it's important to let my readers know I appreciate them. I've met some interesting people in the process. By the way, the Timeline makes it really easy to keep track of those kinds of things when I do fall behind. Anyway, just my two cents.

I probably wasn't very clear with my last post, so I can understand you disagreeing with me. What I should have said is I think it's a great way for authors who didn't thank readers to start doing so and making it easier for them.

If you've ever scored, or commented on one of my stories you will know that I take a lot of time to search for a picture that captures the feel of my story and turn it into a thank you note. I also private message every reader that isn't on my friends list and take the time to thank them personally. I also do this for any new followers.

I understand that this isn't for everyone and most don't have the time to go to such lengths to show appreciation for their readers. That is why I think the new option is a great addition.

17 Jul 2014

Quote by BiMale73

Open link in a new tab:
Windows: CTRL + click on link
OS X: CMD + click on link
Or you can use the option in the context menu (right click on link)

The thing is: sometimes you will want this, other times not, some users want this, others not. Given the options above, each user can open any link the way (s)he wants.

Hi BiMale73,

Please excuse my ignorance, but what link should I click on and where is it?

Thanks

Abi

17 Jul 2014

Quote by fantasylady

Hi BiMale73,

Please excuse my ignorance, but what link should I click on and where is it?

Thanks

Abi

You can use those keyboard shortcuts on any link that you would like to open in a new tab.

For instance, if you are looking at this page and wished to check your messages without closing this page down, you can hold down on your keyboard either CTRL or CMD (depending on your operating system) and then click the message icon on the top bar.

This will work with any link.

17 Jul 2014

Quote by Liz

You can use those keyboard shortcuts on any link that you would like to open in a new tab.

For instance, if you are looking at this page and wished to check your messages without closing this page down, you can hold down on your keyboard either CTRL or CMD (depending on your operating system) and then click the message icon on the top bar.

This will work with any link.

Wow! Thank you

17 Jul 2014

Quote by fantasylady
Wow! Thank you

Now you're in CTRL f-hihi

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20 Jul 2014

Is it possible to have an option to reply to our black boxes in the online message folder?
I don't always reply right away and I sometimes don't have the patience to load up their page or my friends list while I'm using my tablet so I can reply. (It's super slow)
Thanks!

23 Jul 2014

Not sure if this has been asked before, but here goes:

Is there a way to add or include the red menu bar at the bottom of the page?
Or possibly a Top link that can return the reader to the top of the page?

Typically, when I finish reading a story, scoring it and leaving a comment, I'm left with scrolling back to the top of the page to get back to the Home page or where ever I want to go. Using my computer (laptop or desktop), it is easy. Just hit CTRL-HOME and poof - I'm there. But, when using my iPad or iPhone, i have to scroll back up. If I use the back arrows, as many of you probably know, it takes you through numerous pages to get back.

Just a suggestion. Nothing in the grand scheme of things. Thanks for consideration.

WSCLG

"I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free." Nikos Kazantzakis

23 Jul 2014

Quote by WSCLG
Not sure if this has been asked before, but here goes:

Is there a way to add or include the red menu bar at the bottom of the page?
Or possibly a Top link that can return the reader to the top of the page?

Typically, when I finish reading a story, scoring it and leaving a comment, I'm left with scrolling back to the top of the page to get back to the Home page or where ever I want to go. Using my computer (laptop or desktop), it is easy. Just hit CTRL-HOME and poof - I'm there. But, when using my iPad or iPhone, i have to scroll back up. If I use the back arrows, as many of you probably know, it takes you through numerous pages to get back.

Just a suggestion. Nothing in the grand scheme of things. Thanks for consideration.

WSCLG

To instantly scroll to the top of a page in Safari on an iPad or iPhone, just tap the status bar at the top. smile

23 Jul 2014

I have two suggestions:
1) Update the graphics. I personally find the graphics a little too...2006. I'm not suggesting the interface should be changed, just the appearance. The red on white theme works well, however looks a bit dated.

2) Instead of a timeline review, I think a notifications tab on the top bar would be more convenient. I'm pinching the idea from Facebook simply because it's functional and works well.

23 Jul 2014

Quote by Arcane
I have two suggestions:
1) Update the graphics. I personally find the graphics a little too...2006. I'm not suggesting the interface should be changed, just the appearance. The red on white theme works well, however looks a bit dated.

2) Instead of a timeline review, I think a notifications tab on the top bar would be more convenient. I'm pinching the idea from Facebook simply because it's functional and works well.

I agree with number one.

Black and white or black and silver would be interesting.

I also vote updated avatars. I know there's a lot but some are a bit dated..

For men and women...

I quite like your avatar, Arcane.

23 Jul 2014

Quote by Liz

To instantly scroll to the top of a page in Safari on an iPad or iPhone, just tap the status bar at the top.

You see, that's why I love this site. Even when the most obvious eludes me (us), someone is there to remind us. Thanks for the DiNozzo smack, Liz. I truly needed and deserved it.

"I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free." Nikos Kazantzakis

23 Jul 2014

how about a character count when you are sending online messages?

thanks,
g

28 Jul 2014

I agree with this. There's nothing more frustrating than typing along only to look up and see that you've run out of characters. For the truly long-winded, like me, this would be great.

28 Jul 2014

I know this is going to draw some scrutiny, but would it be possible for scores to be shown along with comments. This might discourage those who have nothing better to do than to low-ball you with a 1 vote if they knew that everyone could see who did it. It's easy enough to find out by looking at your timeline and doing the math, but if they were out there for everyone to see it might make some of them think twice.