GENERAL THOUGHTS ON READER RECOMMENDED STORIES...

25 May 2016

I would not care if stories were unidentified in the que, although I'd sometimes know who wrote it just by the style. I'm not sure it would even be workable as we have to be able to contact writers regarding content, advice, and rejections. It's kind of difficult to address an anonymous letter trying to explain an issue or ask for clarification. Further, we see a surprising number of submissions that blatantly disregard our guidelines. I've seen grossly underage stories, extremely violent sexual assaults, scat and just about everything you can imagine. Some of these lead to publishing suspensions or in extreme cases, deletion. We need to be able to identify those who repeat these submissions and that would not be possible without being able to identify the offending writer.

I don't see much of a point though from this threads standpoint either. RR's are often added by a different mod sometimes long after the story was verified. Such a solution would do nothing as a balm to calm those who feel the moderators are being less than even handed.

I know I go out of my way to find and award writers who are not often recognized. I know what I do is observed by my fellow mods and by Nicola. If, after 4 years or so of being a moderator I'm still welcome to wear the badge, I can only assume my counterparts and Nicola feel I'm doing my job well.

The Wild Girl anthology need not be read in any order but does take place in the following timeframe

Wild at Heart- 1968. The story of Dani’s Great Aunt Evie.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/first-time/wild-at-heart

Wild Oats. Part 1&2. -2021. Dani is 16 and sets her sights on her stepfather.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-1

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-oats-part-2

Wild Child. 2025. Dani is now 20 years old.

https://www.lushstories.com/stories/taboo/wild-child

25 May 2016

Quote by Peri

Actually no.... those who are Wild At Heart aren't suppose to endorse their comments about mediocrity... they're far above that level :P

Actually... I don't even know what that means. Over my head I suppose.

What I do know is that you don't have any RRs either... The plot thickens.

...

On a side note, I wanted my rank to be "motherfucker" but I was denied because CENSORSHIP.

25 May 2016

Quote by Fugly

To the OP, the system will never change but thank you for the discussion. In my opinion, the only fair system would be that when someone submits their story, their name is not displayed to the mod.

There's one huge issue here that prevents it - that disallows us ANY communication with the writer via PM - as some will tell you, we'll often contact writers if we have questions about their story or suggestions or would like permission to do some edits. this would make any communication between my team and the writers impossible. what would happen is we'd simply have to reject a story without any explanation whatsoever.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

25 May 2016

Quote by Magical_felix

On a side note, I wanted my rank to be "motherfucker" but I was denied because CENSORSHIP.

too incesty. deal with it. geek

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

25 May 2016

Quote by sprite

too incesty. deal with it.

Rachel, please.

#supportsinglemoms

25 May 2016

It's really quite simple, if you work and improve your writing ability and put together high-quality stories, you will start getting RRs. Whining, crying, and complaining in The Forum is just wasting time you could spend working toward making yourself a better writer.

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

I've been on the other site for many years, and I've lost count of how many people I've spoken to who now refuse to post stories to this site anymore, simply due to the fact that they cannot get their stories accepted -- and these are fucking good writers with huge potential.

Gonna call bullshit on this one and a technical foul on grounds of failing to be a tricky schlong. I was a mod in the past. And I have to echo the inordinate amount of shit that gets submitted that wouldn't even get accepted by a middle school creative writing teacher huffing paint on lunch break. You detail out exactly what people need to do to get a story approved, and they ignore everything. Or, rather impossibly, make it even worse.

It's seriously NOT that hard to get stories approved here. Lush publishing standards are child's play. I'd shudder to see these people actually submit to a real publisher. Rejection notices galore. Maybe even derision for just how bad some of the stuff is that mod's have to read. And I have to tell you, I've read some fucked up shit on here I wish I hadn't.

So no. They're aren't "fucking good writers with huge potential" if they can't get by Lush standards which is pretty much coherent grammar that doesn't contain fetishes for , fecal matter, animals, or otherwise.

You could get a story passed if it was a clean and involved, "Jimmy stroking his big ole meat stick while eating a deep dish pizza and watching the Kardashians." No one would read the garbage, but it'd probably get accepted.

So many on here, too many, put too much emphasis on the sex. The sex is easy. Well, maybe not. No one wants to read Penny inserted Stevie-Joe's raging boner in her little oven and baked his ding-dong to a brisk 120 degrees before falling asleep and dreaming of electric sheep with raging boners.

Simple story art is beyond most. But the above is a lot of what gets sent back. Shit without any coherent story. Just a wham, wham, "GONNA CUM" close curtain. May as well watch a VHS porno from the 80s.

Suffice to say what I'm trying to say, is if EP and RR standards are lowered, I wouldn't take this site seriously at all, even as an amateur site. Hell, there are a few RRs I don't agree with, but when I was a mod I gave out maybe 5 total in a few months work. To make a metaphor, lowering the standards would be akin to letting Joe-Schmo from 5th street who swings a mean hammer while building decks, and bringing him into triple A baseball. Good fucking god it'd be a laugh, but then people would stop coming if more Joe's got picked up from off the street.

Want an EP/RR? Learn to write a story. Not even a fucking sex story. A GD story with a clear beginning, middle, and end. Then work on setting and dialogue dynamics. Then bring something new to the table, or something done in a weird, unique way.

That's what I did. Didn't start out with sex when I began writing. And hell, I didn't even have any mod friends when my first story popped out. And I'm not going to brag, it was damn near close to being EP elected right off the bat. And I don't think I'm close to being the best. I just write what I feel. And when I don't feel it, I trash it and move on.

Quote by Peri

lol... omg.... seems like you've taken it as a matter of life and death.... hey relax and enjoy your meal.... and yeah chew well, swallowing is not always good ;)

I like to laugh at drunken chat speak?

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

Yeah, whether it be intentional or not, bias will always come in to play; it's a subconscious reaction. People do it without even realising it more often than not. It's human nature. Mods have been guilty of it whether they realise it or not.

This will always cause conflict and divide loyalties, so why keep it? Why not remove it and place more emphasis on the writing-for-the-love-of-writing aspect of this site?

It'll solve a lot of speculation and make this a better site in my opinion.

You're right. I'm biased as fuck against horrible writing. I imagine most people are, the current mods included. Me? If you can't bring me in by at least paragraph two, you're dead to me. If that's some EVIL CORPORATE STYLE bias, well....

If *change, and *change, and *change is made.... and the same people are still getting awards while the plebs who still suck at writing and aren't improving, still have terrible story ideas, etc, aren't... they're gonna bitch and moan again and again.

Until we give them an RR for "Jimmy sucked Big Bertha's lactating sugar tits like Freddy Jr slurped that slurpie from 7/11 while fucked up on some stank ass Mary Jane."

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dickey

Yeah, whether it be intentional or not, bias will always come in to play; it's a subconscious reaction. People do it without even realising it more often than not. It's human nature. Mods have been guilty of it whether they realise it or not.

Um, REALIZE is spelled with a 'Z'.

Quote by Tricky_Dickey

I've been on the other site for many years, and I've lost count of how many people I've spoken to who now refuse to post stories to this site anymore, simply due to the fact that they cannot get their stories accepted -- and these are fucking good writers with huge potential.

Sorry, but by who's standards? Thats easy to say but the truth is, the Mods send stories back in order to keep the level of quality up. This is a writing site after all. My own nephew went on Storyspace and quit because his story was rejected and he didn't want to change it. It's really a shame, because he has the ability to be a great writer but he won't accept guidance, so he'll never improve. Maybe that is the case with all those people you spoke too...

Quote by Tricky_Dickey

It's not daft; he's spot on with that claim. I was accused of being insulting for merely implying that this site rejects stories for the silliest of reasons. Forget the rules; certain mods will reject a story on the grounds that it might cause offensive to someone, somewhere, at some point in the future. And this is a fact that has become common knowledge amongst amateur writers submitting stories on competing sites.

I'd love some examples of the offensive content you are referring too. And please, don't say you are talking about the 'moth**fucker' thing. You must have more than just that to be so completely upset by the rules here. Frankly, Nicola owns LUSH, and she does not want , child porn, beastiality, or scat stories here. That's her right. Furthermore, I'd say most of the writers here are very happy about that. This site has higher standards than other websites and if that keeps scum away, then that is just fine. (Not calling you scum, for all I know you are very nice) I'm just saying if you don't like the guidelines here or the way things are done, then maybe you should go to one of those 'other sites' you keep bringing up. If someone were to, say keep submitting unacceptable content and get banned, they might create a new account. I can assure you IP's can be checked and LUSH would know if the IP address is the same. Maybe some of your friends have had stories rejected for that? Just my My 2 cents

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25 May 2016

Quote by sprite

in the last 3 weeks my best friend, a man i've known since i was 4, has passed away and i've had to take a trip to the ER and spent 4 days hospitalized with a tube down my throat. believe me, this thread is pretty far down on the list of things that stress me out. that said, i' doing my best to work through people's concerns in a civil manner, because, believe it or not, i do care about people's opinions. if you'd rather i just ignored the issue altogether, trust me, it would make my day one hell of a lot easier.

I'm really sorry for your loss. There is nothing worse than losing a loved one. It makes everything else so petty. I hope you're feeling better! Get some rest and lap up some warm milk~

I have three famous stories, 2 recommended reads and have come in the top ten in two competitions~ Come in and make yourself at home.

25 May 2016

Quote by Simmerdownchick

Um, REALIZE is spelled with a 'Z'.

Only in American English. In British English (which is, where the language originally comes from) it's realiSe, with an S. The same goes for authorise, penalise and most other verbs that end with ize in America.

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25 May 2016

Quote by sprite

in the last 3 weeks my best friend, a man i've known since i was 4, has passed away and i've had to take a trip to the ER and spent 4 days hospitalized with a tube down my throat. believe me, this thread is pretty far down on the list of things that stress me out. that said, i' doing my best to work through people's concerns in a civil manner, because, believe it or not, i do care about people's opinions. if you'd rather i just ignored the issue altogether, trust me, it would make my day one hell of a lot easier.

Oh my gosh, honey. I'm so sorry. Love you, sending good vibes your way. love9

25 May 2016

Quote by Simmerdownchick
Um, REALIZE is spelled with a 'Z'.

ah, you just gotta love the condescending tone of some Americans who believe that the English language started on their side of the "pond".

tolerance, hunnie .... this is an INTERNATIONAL GLOBAL website ... most of us show some grace with how others use and spell the "universal language" of English.

angry7

I would never call out the spelling of some words that are obvious the Americanisation (Americanization) of an English word .... have some humility and humour ... it will take you far, and you might make a new friend along the way .... or even better, learn something new!

Good luck as you realise this!

coffee

25 May 2016

Quote by Magical_felix
Rachel, please.

#supportsinglemoms

What about 'MILF Rider' instead?

@Lizerotica

25 May 2016

Quote by MadMartigan

It's seriously NOT that hard to get stories approved here. Lush publishing standards are child's play. I'd shudder to see these people actually submit to a real publisher. Rejection notices galore. Maybe even derision for just how bad some of the stuff is that mod's have to read. And I have to tell you, I've read some fucked up shit on here I wish I hadn't.

So no. They're aren't "fucking good writers with huge potential" if they can't get by Lush standards which is pretty much coherent grammar that doesn't contain fetishes for , fecal matter, animals, or otherwise.

Thanks for that. It was a good reply. It's good to know there are adults on this site. I was beginning to have my doubts.

The general consensus on the other site is that Lush mods are too fastidious when rejecting stories. It goes way beyond grammar and punctuation. An example another member pointed out was that he can't use the name "motherfucker" because somebody may misinterpret that as a reference to . This is a perfect example of what I'm getting at.

People have had their worked bounced for the same reasons. People have been, in the past, asked to omit certain words because they are banned from the site, or change a paragraph because someone may interpret it as relating to a banned subject. It is, for a better word, farcical, at times. And it has become a much talked about issue on the other site.

It's childish and irrational, and has chased away many a good author over the years. Good authors will NOT alter story content because Lush mods have rejected their story for inane reasons. Good authors will take their work and go elsewhere. The other site has members with stories to tell about story rejections for ridiculous reasons, and those people will not submit work to Lush anymore. People don't like having their time wasted.

So an unintended consequence of that is other sites get the vast majority of good authors, and Lush get's lumbered with the pap.

It's an issue worth addressing if this site is serious about winning back more good authors.

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky
People have had their worked bounced for the same reasons. People have been, in the past, asked to omit certain words because they are banned from the site, or change a paragraph because someone may interpret it as relating to a banned subject. It is, for a better word, farcical, at times. And it has become a much talked about issue on the other site.

You've been told before, we don't publish racist materials on Lush. You need to take that stuff somewhere else. We're not going to change our policy on it just to make you happy. Discrimination against other races and cultures is deplorable.

Seriously, publish it somewhere else (if you absolutely must).

@Lizerotica

25 May 2016

Quote by Liz

You've been told before, we don't publish racist materials on Lush. You need to take that stuff somewhere else. We're not going to change our policy on it just to make you happy. Discrimination against other races and cultures is deplorable.

Seriously, publish it somewhere else (if you absolutely must).

Sorry, I've not been told anything before. Show me where in my previous post that I mention racist material. If you think I'm asking the site to accept racist material then you're very much mistaken. I fail to see how you've come to that conclusion from my previous post.

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky
Sorry, I've not been told anything before. Show me where in my previous post that I mention racist material. If you think I'm asking the site to accept racist material then you're very much mistaken. I fail to see how you've come to that conclusion from my previous post.

You've been told before on your previous accounts as Desperate_Dan, Wayne_King, etc.

@Lizerotica

25 May 2016

Quote by Liz

You've been told before on your previous accounts as Desperate_Dan, Wayne_King, etc.

I don't know what you're talking about, but you've obviously got me confused with somebody else. Let's just stick to the subject and not derail this thread with your rantings over a personal dispute with someone called "Desperate_Dan, Wayne_King, etc."

Next time you'll be issued with a warning.

Thank you.

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

I don't know what you're talking about, but you've obviously got me confused with somebody else. Let's just stick to the subject and not derail this thread with your rantings over a personal dispute with someone called "Desperate_Dan, Wayne_King, etc."

Next time you'll be issued with a warning.

Thank you.

Do you seriously think, anyone believes, that someone entirely new here, without any publications on his/her name, would become a lush member, only to repeat the things lusty_linda aka Wayne wrote in the recent past? I don't have the resources Liz has, but I came to the same conclusion as she did: I believe you're the same person that was here before as Lusty_linda. Your slightly more polite approach fails to conceal that. Even when I don't always agree with the mods, I do agree with the rules of this site. You obviously don't. There's a simple solution for that problem: leave.

25 May 2016

Quote by patokl
Do you seriously think, anyone believes, that someone entirely new here, without any publications on his/her name, would become a lush member, only to repeat the things lusty_linda aka Wayne wrote in the recent past? I don't have the resources Liz has, but I came to the same conclusion as she did: I believe you're the same person that was here before as Lusty_linda. Your slightly more polite approach fails to conceal that. Even when I don't always agree with the mods, I do agree with the rules of this site. You obviously don't. There's a simple solution for that problem: leave.

Oh grow up and don't be so bloody childish. You're just spreading false rumors in a blatant attempt to push my thought-provoking post further up the page so nobody reads it. This is a good thread, and I'm disgusted that people are trying to derail it with infantile behavior. I'll post my thought-provoking message again. Please start your own thread if you want to act the clown.

The general consensus on the other site is that Lush mods are too fastidious when rejecting stories. It goes way beyond grammar and punctuation. An example another member pointed out was that he can't use the name "motherfucker" because somebody may misinterpret that as a reference to . This is a perfect example of what I'm getting at.

People have had their worked bounced for the same reasons. People have been, in the past, asked to omit certain words because they are banned from the site, or change a paragraph because someone may interpret it as relating to a banned subject. It is, for a better word, farcical, at times. And it has become a much talked about issue on the other site.

It's childish and irrational, and has chased away many a good author over the years. Good authors will NOT alter story content because Lush mods have rejected their story for inane reasons. Good authors will take their work and go elsewhere. The other site has members with stories to tell about story rejections for ridiculous reasons, and those people will not submit work to Lush anymore. People don't like having their time wasted.

So an unintended consequence of that is other sites get the vast majority of good authors, and Lush get's lumbered with the pap.

It's an issue worth addressing if this site is serious about winning back more good authors.

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

Please start your own thread if you want to act the clown.

Patoki has already done that...

25 May 2016

Quote by Liz

What about 'MILF Rider' instead?

MILF Rider lacks a certain je ne sais quoi... But Motherfucker grabs you by the hair, kicks your legs open and says "let's party".

25 May 2016

Quote by noll

May I ask where you got that number? I'm curious what the numbers are for the different sections of the site.

The figure is based on the information published on the site home page and on the forum homepage

Taking the figures right now from the forum it tells me that 3289 people are on the site, 149 of which are members, 3140 guests. That actually makes 95.5% non-interactive visitors.

The homepage tells me 51 people are in the chat room - so about a third of the members currently here. While totting up the number of people viewing forum posts adds up to 23 so about 1 in 6. Guests of course can view the forum so that number may include non-interactive users.

74 people in chat rooms and forums, 3215 doing something else.

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25 May 2016

Quote by overmykneenow

The figure is based on the information published on the site home page and on the forum homepage

Taking the figures right now from the forum it tells me that 3289 people are on the site, 149 of which are members, 3140 guests. That actually makes 95.5% non-interactive visitors.

The homepage tells me 51 people are in the chat room - so about a third of the members currently here. While totting up the number of people viewing forum posts adds up to 23 so about 1 in 6. Guests of course can view the forum so that number may include non-interactive users.

74 people in chat rooms and forums, 3215 doing something else.

Yeah, these are good and accurate figures. It shows that 149 people are logged in; that number rarely gets any higher. If it does it'll only reach 200-400. That's what I'm trying to explain to these people. If they waste people's time, the majority of good people will disappear and join other sites. It's already happened, and people need to take measures to prevent it from keep happening.

It doesn't help with the way they welcome new members either. It's absolutely disgusting the way I've been treated on here so far; it's not what you would call hospitable. It's no wonder traffic's so low. Certain people need to learn some manners and hospitality.

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

Oh grow up and don't be so bloody childish. You're just spreading false rumors in a blatant attempt to push my thought-provoking post further up the page so nobody reads it. This is a good thread, and I'm disgusted that people are trying to derail it with infantile behavior. I'll post my thought-provoking message again. Please start your own thread if you want to act the clown.

I'm not spreading any rumor. I'm simply telling you, what I believe to be true. And your reaction to that is so similar to what Lusty_linda posted, that you've only strengthened my believe. And like you, I have the right to express that.

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

The general consensus on the other site is that Lush mods are too fastidious when rejecting stories. It goes way beyond grammar and punctuation. An example another member pointed out was that he can't use the name "motherfucker" because somebody may misinterpret that as a reference to . This is a perfect example of what I'm getting at.

People have had their worked bounced for the same reasons. People have been, in the past, asked to omit certain words because they are banned from the site, or change a paragraph because someone may interpret it as relating to a banned subject. It is, for a better word, farcical, at times. And it has become a much talked about issue on the other site.

It's childish and irrational, and has chased away many a good author over the years. Good authors will NOT alter story content because Lush mods have rejected their story for inane reasons. Good authors will take their work and go elsewhere. The other site has members with stories to tell about story rejections for ridiculous reasons, and those people will not submit work to Lush anymore. People don't like having their time wasted.

So an unintended consequence of that is other sites get the vast majority of good authors, and Lush get's lumbered with the pap.

It's an issue worth addressing if this site is serious about winning back more good authors.

I don't think anyone here is bothered by the "general consensus" as you perceive it, nor with the fact that some people clearly have issues with the standards, upheld here. The general consensus among the lush members is, that they are happy with how the site and its moderating team function. Maybe you should accept what several mods have already told you. As good as those writers may be, I cannot judge that, it is abundantly clear, that neither the owner nor the moderators of lushstories.com are willing to lower the standards of the site, in order to win them back. You can assume a hundred new identities and bring it up as often as you want, or you can accept the truth as it is and take your stories to where those other good writers you mention publish them. I wise person would save his energy and do the latter.

25 May 2016

Quote by Buz
It's really quite simple, if you work and improve your writing ability and put together high-quality stories, you will start getting RRs. Whining, crying, and complaining in The Forum is just wasting time you could spend working toward making yourself a better writer.

All good advice but along with your previous post on this thread you've happily ignored the fact that people who are more socially active on this site get more views. Nothing you've said changes my opinion that the more moderators you can get to look at your stuff, the more likely you are to receive an RR.

You said yourself - the verifiers are pushed hard, so if they're reading something on Lush it's either something in the queue or something they already have an interest in reading. If they're reading something randomly on the home page they may as well be reading something in the queue. For the majority of quality authors, whose material will be passed without much problem, the only mod that will ever see a piece of work is the mod who verified it. Unless you can get the interest of other mods, your story will soon be lost amongst all the others.

I've not written in two years for this site, my last story got an RR months after it was published. If you're relying on the approving mod to recommend it, you're relying on the luck of the draw. The verifier for that last story actually scored it a 4 (which she was, of course, perfectly entitled to do).

25 May 2016

Quote by Tricky_Dicky

Oh grow up and don't be so bloody childish. You're just spreading false rumors in a blatant attempt to push my thought-provoking post further up the page so nobody reads it. This is a good thread, and I'm disgusted that people are trying to derail it with infantile behavior. I'll post my thought-provoking message again. Please start your own thread if you want to act the clown.

The general consensus on the other site is that Lush mods are too fastidious when rejecting stories. It goes way beyond grammar and punctuation. An example another member pointed out was that he can't use the name "motherfucker" because somebody may misinterpret that as a reference to . This is a perfect example of what I'm getting at.

People have had their worked bounced for the same reasons. People have been, in the past, asked to omit certain words because they are banned from the site, or change a paragraph because someone may interpret it as relating to a banned subject. It is, for a better word, farcical, at times. And it has become a much talked about issue on the other site.

It's childish and irrational, and has chased away many a good author over the years. Good authors will NOT alter story content because Lush mods have rejected their story for inane reasons. Good authors will take their work and go elsewhere. The other site has members with stories to tell about story rejections for ridiculous reasons, and those people will not submit work to Lush anymore. People don't like having their time wasted.

So an unintended consequence of that is other sites get the vast majority of good authors, and Lush get's lumbered with the pap.

It's an issue worth addressing if this site is serious about winning back more good authors.

Now that the thread has derailed into something way beyond discussing the original post as it stands...

So Lush is lumbered with the pap, is it? GOOD. At least less up-their-own-bum writers have a chance here to explore and develop their own writing without these literary giants who can't (sorry, won't) tweak their story to meet a publishing house's standard. Pick a house because you want them to publish your work. Don't pick it because they OUGHT to publish your work.

If certain writers have to sod off elsewhere because there are too many farcical shenanigans here, GOOD. Let them. You clearly know the status quo here. They're not the only ones who have considered leaving for various reasons. But leave because you don't want to meet the guidelines/set-up, or even (shock horror), some people who mean your time cannot be enjoyed here. Don't leave because they won't bend to your commands. A serious writer is able to adapt. If it's too much of a strain to compromise a paragraph's undertow, then just walk away. No need to keep coming back saying the same thing in a way that puts backs up and brings out the butthurt bludgeons. You know how that particular storybook goes.

Lush doesn't need to win back "good authors". If an author left, they will either do better elsewhere, or come back and try to fit in as far as their ego will let them. Don't like what's allowed? Go somewhere else.

I believe in speaking up if something is wrong. And then I have to get on with it, or remove myself. I have my own reasons for responding to this thread, and as one who has/is considering leaving Lush myself (for reasons different than what is being addressed here), it's my responsibility to deal with it. I like to think I wouldn't keep popping back on bemoaning the fact that all the good people have left. I'd rather bring them back with me and show how brilliant a writer I was by not only grafting my work into Lush-acceptable writing, but I'd use my literary Skillz to melt the knickers off the people reading it. And then I'd leave after my point was proven to see if they change to fit what those "good writers" wanted, because obviously, Lush would be so enamoured by their spunk and pussy juice-inducing abilities that they'd HAVE to accept whatever was demanded just so they feel cossetted into making a huge Good Writers' Return.

Currently, those writers who are learning to hone and explore their more mediocre or, in some cases, terrible, talents, have room and freedom to learn how to meet certain boundaries whilst pushing the edges of both their writing's acceptibility and their own limits. There are moderators here who can help beyond the simple message box on the rejection email, as well as fixed site resources, and, should somebody desperately want to find some more individual help, there are ways to go about getting that help through the forums and private messaging.

And I say, why should Lush want to get these so-called Good Writers back, when it already has some that far surpass what they have formerly offered, and is still growing the next lot? Seasons come and go, and maybe their time is done. If it is stated that something won't change, have a go at a final word, yes, but then don't be scared or upset when you make no headway. Decide what you will do after that instead.

I'm happier being pap here where I know certain things will not be published, than bollocks with so-called "good writers" who cannot hone their story to meet a publishing house's guidelines. The beauty of this house is that if the writer really cares and works hard, they can be published too. If you don't like the guidelines, then go. Be happy. Love your work. Stick it where somebody else likes it. But accept that constant calls in obnoxious ways to allow through guideline-breaking writing, good or otherwise, is not going to happen, and all the other pap like me are glad about it.

Lush has its issues (wherever there are people, there are issues), but worrying about the Good Writers not liking the guidelines and refusing to submit their work here, is not one of them. In my humble opinion, of course. If you wish to take this particular topic further (again), start a different thread.

I feel the original post was good to talk about, and since I already stated my opinion on it, I don't need to do so again.

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25 May 2016

Quote by overmykneenow
The figure is based on the information published on the site home page and on the forum homepage

Taking the figures right now from the forum it tells me that 3289 people are on the site, 149 of which are members, 3140 guests. That actually makes 95.5% non-interactive visitors.

The homepage tells me 51 people are in the chat room - so about a third of the members currently here. While totting up the number of people viewing forum posts adds up to 23 so about 1 in 6. Guests of course can view the forum so that number may include non-interactive users.

74 people in chat rooms and forums, 3215 doing something else.

Ah, I see, I hoped you had a source with more hard numbers. While I appreciate your effort it's still rather speculative (well, web stats are always speculative of course) to suggest that "doing something else" equals reading stories. There's also Groups and member profiles for instance. And basing a conclusion on one or two points in time may skew the results a lot as well. But it seems safe to say that most visitors are indeed here for the stories.

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25 May 2016

Quote by noll

But it seems safe to say that most visitors are indeed here for the stories.

My guess is that most visitors are here to read your forum posts. They are quite entertaining.

25 May 2016

Quote by noll

Ah, I see, I hoped you had a source with more hard numbers. While I appreciate your effort it's still rather speculative (well, web stats are always speculative of course) to suggest that "doing something else" equals reading stories. There's also Groups and member profiles for instance. And basing a conclusion on one or two points in time may skew the results a lot as well. But it seems safe to say that most visitors are indeed here for the stories.

What remains unclear to me, is how members, who choose to be invisible when online, are counted in those statistics. If they're not, actual numbers could be a lot higher.