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C_R_R_Crawford
Over 90 days ago
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Try taking an 8 week holiday from your writing and then coming back to it. You'll notice more errors / clumsy writing than when you're in it day to day.
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"Sins from my Stepmother" tells the story of the Carlson family. Father, David, a hedge fund man, Jennifer, his much younger and gorgeous wife, and, Teddy, David’s only son from his first marriage.
Truth be told, the story focuses a lot more on Teddy and his Mom.
From a young age, Teddy has been aware of his mother’s beauty - workmen cat call when they walk down the street, and all his girlfriends seethe with jealousy at her curves. Intent on playing center forward on the college water polo team, he begins a summer workout routine that turns his relatively fit body into six feet and 180 pounds of defined muscle.
One warm evening, with Bill on a work trip, the two end up locked in an Oedipal sexual encounter that will remain seared into your brain forever.
Check out my first chapter - set in the middle of the series - and let me know your feedback so I can tailor for your tastes!
https://www.lushstories.com/stories/incest/-sins-from-my-stepmother-.aspx
Truth be told, the story focuses a lot more on Teddy and his Mom.
From a young age, Teddy has been aware of his mother’s beauty - workmen cat call when they walk down the street, and all his girlfriends seethe with jealousy at her curves. Intent on playing center forward on the college water polo team, he begins a summer workout routine that turns his relatively fit body into six feet and 180 pounds of defined muscle.
One warm evening, with Bill on a work trip, the two end up locked in an Oedipal sexual encounter that will remain seared into your brain forever.
Check out my first chapter - set in the middle of the series - and let me know your feedback so I can tailor for your tastes!
https://www.lushstories.com/stories/incest/-sins-from-my-stepmother-.aspx
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Quote by Sal
He was first. In my ass.
~ Toni Bentley, The Surrender
Haha. Love it!
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Black Monday. The stock market flash crash of October 1987 in which eight markets around the world crashed by between 20-40% in a single day!
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Agree its best practice for the author to acknowledge the feedback. But if the reader has enjoyed the story, its also good manners for them to let the author know!
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Thanks for the helpful post MorganHawke. Is your list an example of the types of things to be thinking about in most popular stories? Or have you actually done this research and listed the most popular in each category by descending order?
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Has anyone given any thought to applying Joseph Cambell's 'hero' philosophy to erotic writing?
For those not familiar, Campbell was an American professor literature best known for his work, "The Hero with a Thousand Faces." In it, he shares his theory of the journey of the archetypal hero shared by world mythologies, termed the monomyth. George Lucas credited Campbell's work as influencing the original Star Wars saga.
Campbell summaries the monomyth:
"A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man."
In laying out the monomyth, Campbell describes a number of stages or steps along this journey. "The hero's adventure" begins in the ordinary world. He must depart from the ordinary world, when he receives a call to adventure. With the help of a mentor, the hero will cross a guarded threshold, leading him to a supernatural world, where familiar laws and order do not apply. There, the hero will embark on a road of trials, where he is tested along the way. The archetypal hero is sometimes assisted by allies. As the hero faces the ordeal, he encounters the greatest challenge of the journey. Upon rising to the challenge, the hero will receive a reward, or boon. Campbell's theory of the monomyth continues with the inclusion of a metaphorical death and resurrection. The hero must then decide to return with this boon to the ordinary world. The hero then faces more trials on the road back. Upon the hero's return, the boon or gift may be used to improve the hero's ordinary world, in what Campbell calls, the application of the boon.
In erotica, the hero is likely our protagonist / narrator. But who is the mentor? What is the challenge the hero faces? Getting caught? Doing the forbidden? How do they overcome it and what might be their metaphorical death and resurrection?
For those not familiar, Campbell was an American professor literature best known for his work, "The Hero with a Thousand Faces." In it, he shares his theory of the journey of the archetypal hero shared by world mythologies, termed the monomyth. George Lucas credited Campbell's work as influencing the original Star Wars saga.
Campbell summaries the monomyth:
"A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man."
In laying out the monomyth, Campbell describes a number of stages or steps along this journey. "The hero's adventure" begins in the ordinary world. He must depart from the ordinary world, when he receives a call to adventure. With the help of a mentor, the hero will cross a guarded threshold, leading him to a supernatural world, where familiar laws and order do not apply. There, the hero will embark on a road of trials, where he is tested along the way. The archetypal hero is sometimes assisted by allies. As the hero faces the ordeal, he encounters the greatest challenge of the journey. Upon rising to the challenge, the hero will receive a reward, or boon. Campbell's theory of the monomyth continues with the inclusion of a metaphorical death and resurrection. The hero must then decide to return with this boon to the ordinary world. The hero then faces more trials on the road back. Upon the hero's return, the boon or gift may be used to improve the hero's ordinary world, in what Campbell calls, the application of the boon.
In erotica, the hero is likely our protagonist / narrator. But who is the mentor? What is the challenge the hero faces? Getting caught? Doing the forbidden? How do they overcome it and what might be their metaphorical death and resurrection?
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I like your thoughtful post Lurker. And a lot of your points are called out by Stephen King in his bio 'On Writing'. I think 80% of what you describe is what makes 'good writing' as opposed to what makes a 'good story'. The elements of a good story were actually studied and summarised by Joseph Campbell in his seminal book, "The Hero with a Thousand Faces." George Lucas actually credited his work as influencing the Star Wars saga. I have no idea how to apply Campbell's philosophy to erotica though. Ideas anyone?
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Some good advice in this thread for new writers. I think as soon as the purpose of your writing becomes 'making money', the quality of your writing and the fun you get from it will deteriorate. Write because you enjoy it and then maybe who knows, but don't quit your day job...
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A friendly tip. Maybe try calling them "women" or "girls" instead of females and you might get some more interest ;)
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I got a notice/warning saying my work was found elsewhere on the web for free, but all I had to do was declare the content was written by me. Way less complicated than I figured. I still have stories on sites I never submiitted to, but I am not gonna go to the bother of trying to take it down.
As to whether there is money to be had, I am guessing it's pretty slim pickings, but I will find out in about 3 months.
How did you end up going Verbal? Do alright?
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I feel like Lush is potentially a little classier and has more female members than other sites? xHamster's stories section has some aggressive member feedback and lots of ppl sending dick pics...
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Does Lush ever get involved and clamp down on the plagiarisers on behalf of its authors?
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I recently went through the book cover art journey. Started by searching for websites that make covers, but found them to be largely uninspiring and expensive for what they do. Those that offer to make custom covers such as 'Go On Write', request you submit the images fro ShutterStock and then they do the rest (which is not much) so not a good deal. I think best solution is per Nicola's suggestion above. Buy 5 images on Shutterstock for $49 and then design the cover yourself on Canva for free.
I haven't had to run the Amazon censorship gauntlet yet, but not looking forward to it. Suspect its even tighter now in 2020 as looks like the original post is already a few years old.
I haven't had to run the Amazon censorship gauntlet yet, but not looking forward to it. Suspect its even tighter now in 2020 as looks like the original post is already a few years old.
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Interesting. I'll have to check out The Plot Whisperer, Bird by Bird and Story. King also talks a bit about 'The Elements of Style' by William Strunk which is apparently a classic.
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I like the pitch, especially the part about the minxy Mom. Did you write it?
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Nice to know I'm not the only one to have worried about my Google search history raising some eyebrows based on story research! I actually enjoy the research side of it a lot. I've learnt about native fauna in Greenwich, a bit about water polo and the hedge fund industry on the East coast.
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I recently finished Stephen King's 'On Writing' and was surprised to find it so helpful. I'm not a fan of his books, but was put onto this part bio / part collection of tips by a friend. Some useful tips in there that I found easy to immediately incorporate into my writing (avoid the past tense, omit needless words, avoid toxic adverbs, don't over describe a character etc).
Anyone else read it? Other books people would recommend for the aspiring writer?
Anyone else read it? Other books people would recommend for the aspiring writer?
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Starting a thread for those into / step fantasy. Anyone able to point me in the direction of some quality / step fantasy stories?
I've recently tried my own hand with "Sins from my Stepmother."
I've recently tried my own hand with "Sins from my Stepmother."