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23 Feb 2011

If you claim to be a male, we already know ahead of time that you have a dick.

If you're going to lead with your dick first in your profile, then make sure it's because you feel compelled to show us in order to set yourself apart from the competition. If you have an interesting dick or one that can do cool tricks like make shadow puppets or if you are skilled with genital origami (ie. puppetry of the penis) then by all means show us why your dick is the coolest thing ever.

But if it's just like every other dick, then why not wait until you're talking to someone who is intrigued enough by you to tell you that she wants to see it.

22 Feb 2011

Quote by amber
I completely get what Lafayette and Fenton are talking about. I can see why it would piss them off when women have that attitude. I have watched women dressed as they describe getting angry when guys keep looking.

Even open leering and staring is no reason to be upset. It just means that the guy has not learned the subtle way to take in the view. When I am wearing a particularly revealing top, I am usually wearing either just as revealing of a skirt or tight pants, too. I also, would like the rest of the package appreciated, as well, but I could understand if the guy is paying more attention to say the chest if he is a boob man.

Either way, it is stupid to dress provocatively then be upset when it works. So, don't get pissed off, guys. I would say the vast majority are quite pleased to have what they are showing appreciated.

What about if you're on the way to the gym in the summer, wearing a tank top, yoga pants with your hair in a ponytail and you stop to grab a coffee or smoothie. Is it ok for guys to "openly leer" then?

Guys look and stare at hot girls all the time, which is totally fine, but if it's a hardcore boob fixation, it's just not as flattering to me.
It's not something I get upset about. I pretty much just see the guy as a little bit pathetic, try not to laugh out loud, and I'm on my way.

When you're dressed for attention in a bar/club, then I agree, you've got to expect people are going to look. Discretion at not focusing intensely on one body part is always preferable, in my opinion though.

But if it's hot outside and you're just going about your day in a non-slutty outfit that shows your curves or wearing a "loose summer top" as the OP suggests, I think leering is fairly tacky. An appreciative glance is fine but if the guy is trying to figure out "the best way to look at them" and wondering whether they should "wait for you to bend over first" or figure out a way to look down your top or check for 'side-boobage' is.... I dunno... kinda creepy.

22 Feb 2011

However you qualify intelligence, whether it's by IQ, social intelligence, writing/communication ability or book smarts, would a woman that is more intelligent than you be seen as intimidating or attractive.

Think of the popular female images of Jessica Simpson acting like the dumb blonde, or Marilyn Monroe's sexualized little girl act, or all the giggly, pillow-fighting, "omg, I'm just a girl" hair-twirling ideal of the Playboy empire and the porn industry (in general).

Does intelligence scare or intimidate men?

Try to answer this question honestly, because I think it's easy to say "I like a smart woman," but the reality is that society often shows that we are at our most attractive when we're being cute, giggly, helpless, and girly.

Is it just a part of the caveman ideal of being the "protector and provider" or is there a feeling that a very intelligent woman would be emasculating to a guy in some way?

Ladies, feel free to respond if you have any thoughts/opinions on this topic... icon_smile

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22 Feb 2011

Definitely the Swedish Helicopter position, preferably in reverse... thumbup

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22 Feb 2011

Quote by Dudealicious

Well I guess that's where some peoples experience changes things, I think it was Usher that said he wants a lady in the streets but a freak in the bed. I guess I have been rather lucky to have good girls in my life that were just that. They were beyond average sexual partners, they managed to do a few things to me that I had no idea it existed outside of a porn movie. While as the bad girls were a good fuck (don't get me wrong) but didn't do anything over the top to really impress me. You mentioned it in another thread that there are good people 'with edge' does that make them bad or are the lines starting to blur?

Yes I agree with you that the bad girl is always edgier and looking for attention, while the good girl may just fly under the radar. This to me is very attractive in a woman, I like the fact that a good girl can walk into a room and take people's breaths away and mingle easily and is ok with being left alone. Whereas the bad girl will draw comments like "slut" from the attendees and pound her first drink intimidated by the people in the room often clining to her man. I know many men would like that reaction of knowing everyone is looking at their woman, but I don't need that to know she is beautiful.

I am going out on a limb here and will classify you in my good girl 'with edge' category. You can carry on a very intelligent conversation, express your opinions (duh) but you are not conservative (I have read your writing thouroughly...NAUGHTY!) From your posts I don't see you as needing everyone's attention when you are in a room, I see you mingling with everyone and being able to converse about important worldly topics independantly.

Well that's my two cents this time, I look forward to your reply.

As with the guys, it's all a spectrum. I still think that it's more of an ingrained state of mind. Drunkenness or slutty behaviour isn't what being a bad girl is about. Let's take a Hollywood example of Angelina Jolie as the prototypical 'bad girl'... she is very intelligent, well spoken, worldly, not insecure/needy or pounding back the drinks and dancing on tables at award shows. Yet most people would call her a 'bad girl'. She has a sexual confidence, lack of the need to play by the rules and expectations of what a woman is 'supposed to be', she definitely has a dark/edgy side, and is provocative without being dumb/trashy about it. She can probably have sex with anyone she wants and whenever/wherever she wants, but she's very deliberate in her choices. If you remember her in that femme fatale black leather halter dress walking the red carpet looking strong, mischievous and unapologetic... You want to know what's going on in her mind. It's an uncontrived kind of sex appeal. That's what I see the 'bad girl' as.

It's just a far cry from the insecure, slutty, dumb girl that's 'hooting and hollering' in a bar and looking to get laid. If you're in a bar and assessing people as 'good girls' and 'bad girls' just based on how easy it is to fuck them, that's one thing. But take them outside that bar/drinking environment and the true meaning of those terms shifts quite dramatically, in my opinion. Bad girls are usually extremely intelligent... I think you have to be in order to have the confidence to define yourself outside of the typical female expectations.

21 Feb 2011

Quote by Dudealicious
Quote by Dancing_Doll
Are there any men that want to try defining "good girl" and "bad girl" and tell us the difference between the two?

Ash, your question is very important to this thread but also very difficult to answer. I will give you my personal definition of "good" and "bad" and how I feel about the two. Of course just like you women the definition will change from person to person.

A "bad" girl to me represents the following - you go into a bar and she is the one hooting and hollering with her friends going to different spots in the bar to receive free drinks. She is the girl who knows that she doesn't have to bring any cash because she can use her charm and looks to constantly receive them from wanting men. She is dressed rather seductively (showing a lot of cleavage) and in tight jeans. She has peircings and tatoo's to show her bad girl persona (some may not be visible)

This girl has no problems going from man to man and chatting with them while reaching down between men's legs to 'size them up' getting them all hot and horny, thinking she is the one they are going home with tonight. As you know men get crazy when it comes to a woman and a fight may ensue - she will then make her decision who she may sleep with that night (if anyone) based on how the men react. Generally this woman is a little crazy in bed (mostly dirty talk) but with this girl when you have slept with her a few times it starts to become routine. This is the type of girl I would never want my mother to meet, seeing as she may not be able to carry on a conversation.

A "good" girl usually is a friend of the "bad" girl - she is the one that is at the table watching over everyone and making sure they are ok. She is the girl who is very confident in herself and walks with a high level of self esteem. This girl is dressed very well but also leaving something to the imagination (having most guys just glance once) I find these girls to be a little shy when it comes to starting a conversation, but open up quickly when sex is not the only topic of discussion. This girl is not looking just for sex she is looking for an emotional connection of sorts. She knows while a one night stand could be a lot of fun there are repercussions to deal with afterwards (being called a slut etc)

This girl could be a 'target' of sorts for men, they will want to talk to her to get to her "bad" girlfriend. The "good" girl is the type of personality that while she doesn't mind being a liason of sorts to her friend, she also would like some attention herself. These are the girls I personally prefer, they can carry a conversation and are very intelligent. When it comes to her sexual appetite she is very hungry. This woman has taken the time to learn different techniques (from Cosmo, Porn, etc) to know how to please her man in many different ways. This girl will never have a set routine in bed and constantly surprise her man. A "good" girl is someone you can trust bringing her to meet your mom, knowing she can intelligently engage in conversations about many topics.

Like I say that is just my own personal opinion, and I hope it sheds a little light on the topic (I know you and I are in for a little debate here - LOL)

Haha... loved your last line. OK, you know I can't resist a post like this.

So, looking at your definitions, it's obvious which girl you prefer.

But if I look at your definition of the 'bad girl', it's someone who is slutty, loud, rowdy, looking for free drinks, grabbing men's dicks in bars, possessing low intelligent, low self esteem, and unable to carry a conversation. I just see that more as your average drunk girl or girl on spring break. Maybe this is what guys think a 'bad girl' is. It's a fairly unattractive take on the term unless one is looking for a cheap and dirty one night stand. But of course the bad girl is supposed to be kinky in bed at first (consisting mainly of dirty talk) but that this will get boring fast, and the thrills in the bedroom will be far outdistanced by a girl that has been sexually educated by Cosmo. LOL That made me laugh a little.

I guess my main issue with the definition is that a girl that is outgoing, confident or sexually aggressive is seen as "dumb" and "conversationally-challenged". Can't smart girls be dirty girls too?

I think it's hard to really define these types based on behaviour in a bar. I've seen alcohol turn many a "good girl" into a raging slut. That doesn't make her a bad girl though. Once she sobers up, it's back to "omg, I swear I never have one night stands, this is the first time anything like this has happened", and then doing the quick walk of shame, scrubbing away the memories of the night, putting on her pink twin-set, rushing off to her job at the bank and reading Stephanie Meyer on her lunch hour.

I've always seen the 'bad girl' versus 'good girl' types as ones that carry through to everyday life. And I've always seen the bad girl as edgier, maybe not always 'nice' to everyone all the time, sexually confident, has a bit of a dark side, is assertive in relationships and maybe not as socially conventional. And I see the good girl as more traditional, conservative, looking to fulfill the typical female role, a nurturer, 'what you see is what you get' kind of Apple Pie 'gurly' girl.

So many guys say that they married "the good girl" and the sex is very mainstream and tends to get boring, but that she's a good person, reliable, trustworthy, and makes a good wife and mother, so that outweighs the sexually (and psychologically) conservative side. Besides, they have Lush, escorts or mistresses to distract them from their boring marriages anyway.

That's just my take on things... but I definitely don't equate a bad girl as just being a dumb slut. That's giving dumb sluts far too much credibility.

20 Feb 2011

Quote by sprite
Dear Doll - sorry about the bus comments - really, tho, i think it would have added a little needed drama to have one or two bus deaths in your stories. maybe some a zombie plague or two, as well!

"Attack of the Slut Zombies"... you know it's funny... I actually had a dream like this once. I was trying to escape an ensuing army of the living dead that were trying to fuck me to death. See, there's a new story idea around every corner... Regaeman Man

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20 Feb 2011

Quote by SensualSharon

Luckily they allow the authors this control at Literotica, as it should be. Authors SHOULD be able to delete the haters.

I also post on the site that you mentioned. The kind of comments I have gotten there have included desires for the characters in my stories to be murdered, hit by a bus or "hopefully sold into sexual slavery to get what they deserve"... I don't bother deleting the comments. All press is good press. I also don't take it that seriously, but rather find it entertaining that my writing has been provocative enough to elicit such strong opinions. My intelligent readers with half a brain will also find 'outrageous comments' amusing. Having said that, I very rarely see shocking comments here on Lush. In fact I rarely see any negative comments at all, even if the writing is atrocious. On rare occasion, I'll see some constructive criticism or opinion and take it for what it is; a reader who cared enough to give you feedback. If we allow every non-glowing comment to be scrubbed, then it really makes readers feel like there is no point other than loading on the praise every single time. This leaves no opportunity for growth in one's writing. I value the opinions and constructive criticism quite a lot, and always thank the people that go out of their way to give me this kind of feedback.

Nicola and the moderators bend over backwards here to ensure that authors are treated fairly and to ensure that if they have an issue such as a legitimate unfair vote/comment, that it is dealt with in a very timely manner. The system is very well policed. That's something you won't get on any other site.

A writer that publishes anything is up for reviews and criticism. I can't see bonafide authors emailing Amazon.com to demand that a non-glowing review be deleted because it's their right to censor such things. Critics, publishers, editors, and readers all have a right to express their opinions, provided that they aren't 'flaming' or deliberately malicious and unfounded (in which case the site mods will scrub it asap on this site).

I consider it a privilege to have people read anything I write. Some will like the stories, some will not, but in the end if you stand by what you publish and take everything with a grain of salt, it should give you valuable feedback for when you write your next piece. And I think that's what we're all after here in the first place.

Just my My 2 cents

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20 Feb 2011

Quote by carmen_has36
waxing hurts like a bitch yes indeed.
has anyone gone thru electrolosis?
am considering it for that parts I want bare which isn't everything

I'm not even sure if they do electrolysis anymore? It's fairly outdated compared to the continuous advancements in laser hair removal. These days they will do a full brazilian (front and back) with laser hair removal in just a few treatments. A friend of mine just did this and loves the results. So far I've just stuck with brazilian waxing as I am fortunate to not be very hairy to start with, so it doesn't bother me as much to wax or sugar.

19 Feb 2011

I would enjoy hearing some definitions of bad girl and good girl (according to men).

In many other threads, the notion of preferring a 'bad boy' to a 'nice guy' is considered rather offensive to a lot of men. They take it to mean that 'nice guys finish last' and that women prefer 'jerks'.

I'm just surprised that the "good girls" aren't rushing to defend themselves. Or perhaps it's more that most women want to believe they are 'bad' because it sounds sexier.

Are there any men that want to try defining "good girl" and "bad girl" and tell us the difference between the two? icon_smile

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19 Feb 2011

Yay!

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Congratulations to you, Mrs Gav and little Avalon and Byron...

What beautiful names... angel7

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19 Feb 2011

Quote by DirtyMartini
Quote by Dancing_Doll

Unless the woman is in a porn film, a strip club, or a bikini contest, I'm pretty sure she's hoping you'll be noticing the entire package, rather than just her boobs...

Hey Doll...just looking at your new av picture...checking out the "entire package" of course...

I soooo knew you were going to say that DM... Feel free to leer at the boobs, they aren't mine... just a little bait. geek

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19 Feb 2011

Are there many office-workers wearing tube-tops while sitting at their desk these days?

Unless the woman is in a porn film, a strip club, or a bikini contest, I'm pretty sure she's hoping you'll be noticing the entire package, rather than just her boobs... so it doesn't really matter how you look at them, as long as you do it discreetly.

Sometimes we wear low-cut or provocative tops to go out but it's usually aimed at adding to one's overall sex appeal.

If a woman is flirting, she might want to entice you by leaning forward so that you can see her cleavage, but you'll know there is sexual interest there before she does it. A random woman picking up a dropped pen or leaning down to tie a shoelace does not fall into this category.

I like to look sexy when I go out, but a strange guy openly leering at my boobs is not a turn-on for me.

19 Feb 2011

It's not that mysterious. Everything you mentioned is just the desire to be dominated, which is a very common female fantasy.

I enjoy all of the things you mentioned, as well as a few other 'rough sex' practices that I'm not sure I'm allowed to mention in the forum. Nothing too extreme though, as I'm not into overt pain.

The one technique you mention with pinning the wrists at the small of her back while the man is behind her has been written into a couple of my stories actually. I enjoy it and find that kind of restraint very erotic.

Combining verbally dominant dirty talk with the physical is also a huge turn-on and adds to the experience.

19 Feb 2011

There are several differentiations, but these are the two that my gay friends often use to describe guys.

"Twink" is the name/slang for a young looking, slender, femme gay man.

"Bear" is the name/slang for a more hypermasculine, heavier set or muscular gay man with body/facial hair.

18 Feb 2011

Alarm Clock

18 Feb 2011

18 Feb 2011

The curve of my neck and collar bone...

18 Feb 2011

I enjoy using words like 'slut' and 'whore' during sexual role play. It's part of the dirty dialogue vocabulary. I do not take the literal translation to these words or find them offensive when used between two adults in the moments of raw passion. It can be a huge turn-on. It's just part of dirty talk. Keep in mind that these are just words... we are the ones that attach the meaning to them, whether it be positive or negative. Some people don't like dirty talk, but prefer more 'sensual talk' or just silence in general.

If I was walking down the street, and some stranger called me these names it would piss me off. It's all about the person and the situation.

17 Feb 2011

Double Post.

17 Feb 2011

I often wonder if people prefer reading stories about unrealistic-sized people. Like the tight-bodied girl with the enormous natural breasts, or men with giant cocks.

I tend to make my characters good looking, but keep the sizes (if they are mentioned at all) somewhat within the norm. I also tend to prefer reading stories that aren't hung up on describing unrealistic bodily perfection and breast/penis size.

Hearing things like "My teacher, Miss Winters, walked up to the chalkboard as I eyed her 36DD-22-36 figure," kind of kills it for me.

17 Feb 2011

Quote by Jaymal
Peddling stories (well, giving them away), trying to build up a readership.

Interacting with other writers and readers with an opinion. All the damn fun that's available.

But you told me that you're here for all those slutty cyberbabes, Jake!

Hehe... kidding. L16

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17 Feb 2011

Quote by lafayettemister
How about a listing of which members have been interviewed by lush?

I 'second' this motion... although this could easily just be a 'sticky' in the forum that allows a moderator to updates it as people submit their interviews. icon_smile

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17 Feb 2011

It's really not my thing...

17 Feb 2011

Quote by lafayettemister

I mostly agree with yoru point that opposites attract but then usually fall apart. And there are plenty stories we all know of someone trying to tame the wild child and that has ended horribly. Usually it is a woman that tries to tame a badboy more often than the other way around. Usually ends in heartbreak.

My biggest disagreement is that nice guys are conservative. And bad boys are liberal. Somehow somewhere along the line, the nice guy guy has become mistaken for inept boring guy. We all know or know about beer swilling, wife beating, asshole husbands out there that control their wives every thought and action. Expects her to be like Carol Brady, but beats the shit out of her. These guys are certainly NOT good guys. And I can guarantee the are conservative... no Obama votes in that category. My point is... there are many BadBoys that are conservative.

I guess my point is that I don't think that all or even most conservative guys are good guys and that all or most liberal guys are bad guys. Or maybe I mean good guys aren't always conservative and badboys aren't always liberal. I would think that it's equally proportionate.

No, people don't change. Maybe they should make a little more effort if the changing is worthwhile?

When I say 'conservative' I'm not talking politics. I'm talking about a guy that IS conservative himself in the way he acts/thinks in life. You know the golf shirt and khakis kind of guy that likes blockbuster movies/popcorn, drives the reliable car, isn't too flashy, and is basically sexually traditional.

And again... the social term nice-guy has come to mean inept boring guy in the same way that bad-boy has come to mean cheating/abusive asshole. They are both extreme interpretations.

Here's how I see the continuum:

1. Stalkers - misguided versions of "Nice Guy" that have been taken to an unhealthy extreme.
2. Nice Guy - conservative/traditional guy, somewhat introverted, predictable, with nice disposition (ie. beta-male)
3. Nice Guy with Edge - a good guy with charisma, confidence, outgoing, maybe a little mischievous, and a leader (ie. alpha-male)
4. Bad Boy - player type, thinks of himself first, unreliable, narcissistic, doesn't play by the rules (ie social rebel)
5. Asshole - chronic cheaters, abusers, and criminals (ie. uhmm... asshole!)

Now they all come with varying political persuasions and attractiveness-levels... (obviously). And it can also be flipped to represent the continuum when it comes to women as well.

17 Feb 2011

Quote by lafayettemister
Quote by Dancing_Doll
Quote by chavil
It seems like most women want a nice guy when their done having their fun with the bad boys. When their ready to settle down. Which is sad for everyone involved really. When the nice guys are nice 19-20 they ignore them. Late twenties is when they give them a shot.

It goes two ways though...

Quite often the "basic nice guys" are ignoring the "basic nice girls" and trying to bag those hottie bad girls that rock their fantasies but that their personalities are just not suited to. They need to give up this dream and look for the sweet girl next door that is looking to bake apple pie and own a labrador with a minivan.

So you're saying that people, men and women, should date and fuck only "in their league"? If a girl, or guy is super hot and/or bad/naughty... the good girl/guy should not even try? Love the dialogue, always a pleasure DD.

Hmm... I'd say they can fuck outside of their league but to truly be compatible and happy when talking about long term commitments and relationships, people will be happier with someone that shares their general brand of 'zest for life'. I think that a more conservative person will have a better chance for bliss with a like-minded person.

I've seen couples that are skewed in this regard... like the cheating/player/bad-boy that marries the sweet innocent girl and it tends to end disastrously (unless she is extremely naive and willing to look the other way). And then you have the quiet, low-key, basic guy that chases after the wild party girls and can't sustain a long term relationship because he wants to "tame her" and she starts to feel resentful about it. The point is that people don't really change. The desire for the conservative person (male or female) to get the badboy/badgirl and somehow tame their spirit or turn them into their conservative-ideal is a ridiculous strategy and yet many people still harbour this misguided fantasy. Everyone likes a challenge, but when it comes down to it, people should seek partners that share their similar ideals/values and life outlook.... and usually that works best when nice guys date nice girls, bad boys date bad girls, and nice-guy-with-edge gets the nice-girl-with-edge.

Of course there can be some variations that work but I just think people need to be realistic about what they are best suited to.

I think in some cases that opposites attract (which is fine for the short term), but when you're going for long-term happiness it's more complicated. Otherwise boredom will typically set in for one person and frustration/insecurity will set in for the other person.

Oh, and I should point out, there are some very good looking 'nice girls' and 'nice guys' out there. It's definitely not about looks... it's very much about a person's psychology/personality/mind-set.

PS. Thanks Lafayette, you know I love this kind of dialogue too. icon_biggrin

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17 Feb 2011

Quote by chavil
It seems like most women want a nice guy when their done having their fun with the bad boys. When their ready to settle down. Which is sad for everyone involved really. When the nice guys are nice 19-20 they ignore them. Late twenties is when they give them a shot.

It goes two ways though...

Quite often the "basic nice guys" are ignoring the "basic nice girls" and trying to bag those hottie bad girls that rock their fantasies but that their personalities are just not suited to. They need to give up this dream and look for the sweet girl next door that is looking to bake apple pie and own a labrador with a minivan.

16 Feb 2011

Quote by lafayettemister
Quote by Dancing_Doll
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My question now would be, would the nice guy ever make it to the bedroom to show his freaky side? And DD, I know what you mean. I agree that "nice guy" is often confused with "boring, insecure, unambitious" guy. I'm just trying to come up with some new topics to discuss. Seems this one has gotten some interest. I'm enjoying the debate.

Yeah, there have been some rather volatile "Nice Guy" threads in the past...

I always enjoy them, of course...

As for the new question, I'd say (in all honesty) that I have rarely ever seen/heard of the "Basic Nice Guy" revealing some hidden crazy moves when it comes to the bedroom. A more adventurous dirty girl would get bored fast. I have dated a couple of these types in the past, and my friends have dated many and complained about the same thing.

I've always preferred the "Nice Guy with Edge".... I just find that it's more compatible with my style.

I have dated a couple of bonafide bad boys/assholes and they're not usually that great in bed either. Too much narcissism, selfishness and ego.

Soo you're saying Nice Guy and Bad Boy... neither guarantees he's good in bed? Is it possible for either to be confident and able in the bedroom... and it have nothing to do with his outward appearance and/or attitude? Having said that, I'd been with some some women who were great in bed and some who were not so great in bed. One of the sassyest and wittiest and naughty talking girls I ever knew was a like a wooden plank in bed. The church going prim and proper girl gave INCREDIBLE head. Who knows.. now I'm confusing myself.

Sure, anything is possible... I'm just talking more about general trends I've seen or heard about through female friends that have dated various types of guys.

Again, there's nothing wrong with the "Basic Nice Guy"... there are lots of "Basic Nice Girls" that end up being perfectly suited to them.

I think the volatile relationships are when people start trying to hook up with people that are outside their own 'type'. A Basic Nice Girl is always going to feel insecure and crazy if she tries to get the "Bad Boy" to commit to her. Similarly, I'd consider myself a "Nice Girl with Edge"... I would be bored and dissatisfied if I tried to make it work with a "Basic Nice Guy"... I actually tried this once many years ago, and that was the end outcome for me. Total boredom.

People have different expectations of what their perfect partner is. And rightfully so, since we are all very different creatures.

16 Feb 2011

Quote by lafayettemister
My question now would be, would the nice guy ever make it to the bedroom to show his freaky side? And DD, I know what you mean. I agree that "nice guy" is often confused with "boring, insecure, unambitious" guy. I'm just trying to come up with some new topics to discuss. Seems this one has gotten some interest. I'm enjoying the debate.

Yeah, there have been some rather volatile "Nice Guy" threads in the past... evil4

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I always enjoy them, of course... glasses8

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As for the new question, I'd say (in all honesty) that I have rarely ever seen/heard of the "Basic Nice Guy" revealing some hidden crazy moves when it comes to the bedroom. A more adventurous dirty girl would get bored fast. I have dated a couple of these types in the past, and my friends have dated many and complained about the same thing.

I've always preferred the "Nice Guy with Edge".... I just find that it's more compatible with my style.

I have dated a couple of bonafide bad boys/assholes and they're not usually that great in bed either. Too much narcissism, selfishness and ego.

16 Feb 2011

I think the confusion here is this...

The social term 'nice guy' has often been interpreted as a guy that is comfortable with the status quo, treats his woman nicely, happily runs in the middle of the pack, isn't that adventurous but content with a pleasant but predictable sex life, and has a safe plodding and conservative outlook on life, family, sex, and fun.

Now many women want a sharp mind, a playful wit, an ambitious and adventurous spirit, and a wicked sense of humour. Maybe a guy that likes to push the envelope sometimes (in a positive way), and has a mischievous nature and is sexually confident. Combined with this we want him to be a "nice" human being that has a sense of integrity and honour, is reliable and appreciates us.

Now, is the latter definition a bad boy? Or just a confident, outgoing more unconventional version of the "nice guy"....

Personally, I see them as two version of the Nice Guy. You have the "Basic Nice Guy" and then you have the "Nice Guy with Edge". Every woman will be different in terms of which version she is better suited to.

I don't think any woman would say that she wants the doormat, insecure, boring guy... Nor does she want the unpredictable, disrespectful asshole that the term 'bad boy' is often interpreted as.

When most women talk about a guy that gets us excited, it is usually the "Nice Guy with Edge"...